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3:00 PM
First web browser opened-source
FIREFOX Y U LIE?
 
Chrome is open source
via Chromium
 
maybe this way?
I don't know what is the past. opened-source or open-sourced
I would vote for the second
The first one is clearly awkward, not as much as Zirak, but it is
 
> Arena implemented many elements of the HTML3 and HTML3.2 specification including math elements[5] that were deprecated in HTML4
:(
@dievardump first open sourced web browser :p
 
It's an adjective, not a verb. There is no "past adjective".
 
@Zirak it's in the verb way there though
 
3:03 PM
So without the "-" ? This would make it "verb way"?
 
every adjective can be turned in a verb in english, right?
 
You can use verbs to imply time ("I used to be yellow" past, "I am yellow" present.)
 
@dievardump don't care, but before "web browser"
 
@FlorianMargaine I'm asking about the verb, not the syntax
(naziiiiiiii) tsssss
 
Not every verb. I don't know the title of these constructs, but "open-source" is a single thing, whether the dash is there or not
 
3:04 PM
@dievardump look at the pinned message
 
So "it used to be open-source" and "it's open source" and "it will be open source"
 
You guys, OPRAH is LOVING the Microsoft SURFACE! Wowsers! http://gizmo.do/GQJcbE
> YOU GUYS OPRAH HAD A LOT OF MONEY TO SAY SHE LOVES THE SURFACE
 
who is oprah? :)
<--- Doesn't live in US
 
Unless "source" is some kind of treasure chest, in which case "he opened the source", "the source was opened", "he is opening the source", etc.
 
Come on.
 
3:05 PM
@dievardump Oprah is like... the one everybody listens to
 
@dievardump lol yeah I just saw that as well
 
@nirth Oprah is black she-god
 
^
 
@FlorianMargaine That's why I can say that she received a lot of money to say something like that.
 
kk
 
3:06 PM
Oprah is worst than sponsorised bloggers
Why do I have Teresko in my "Follow suggestion" list?
 
@dievardump Probably because people you follow follow him
That is, people from this room
 
open-source is an adjective, not a verb, never conjugate it.
 
Why are you going off the room for a month?
 
@FlorianMargaine John Resig still hasn't responded. He's definitely dead.
 
3:09 PM
Oprah made Billions by making people cry.
she made an industry on our tears.
 
@AmaanCheval travelling. (I saw you also follow CouchSurfing)
 
Ah, New York, right?
I followed them after you told me about it
 
Web developers: the only people who use incognito mode for something other than porn.
Mouhahahaha so true.
 
Holy fuck, you can use incognito mode for porn!
 
@AmaanCheval NYC, Philadelphia, Pittsburg, [some cities], Chicago, San Francisco, Seattle, Vancouver
 
3:11 PM
That's GENIUS
afk
 
LMAO
 
Nice
have fun!
 
@AmaanCheval is that to @Zirak or @dievardump ;)
 
Both, I think
 
To dievardump
 
And I just saw Zirak's message XD
 
naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah don't make joke like that!
 
Hahahahhahaha
 
@SomeKittens I dunno where you got that, but another article - with the same name - already exists.
 
@dievardump I just finished writing it.
Recoding's my personal blog
 
3:16 PM
@SomeKittens I just tell them I am happy reinventing a wheel so long as I don't have to drive the Transport Truck into my mobile.
 
Oh, ok.
 
@SomeKittens Summed in one sentence: If people didn't reinvent the wheel, we'd be stuck with a bulgy stone circle-like thing
 
that or I just ignore the stupid SOBs and move on with my day
 
@FlorianMargaine i am serious mate
you got 3
 
3:17 PM
Besides, if your wheel's on fire, something might be wrong
 
This one is really good too
I really should sort my drafts
I have 286 drafts email
containing images, video and articles links
For my defense, I already sorted them 7 months ago
 
@dievardump hmm
 
@SomeKittens Make this recursive
 
@Zirak Why?
 
Because recursion
 
3:22 PM
Just for a challenge or is there an actual speed benefit or something?
Ah, gotcha
afk
 
crashie.com (crashes IE)
 
firefox logo is broken
 
> <script>for(x in document.write){document.write(x);}</script>
^ crashes most versions of IE9 and below
 
hm
chrome has native code in document.write
 
3:26 PM
@rlemon How?
 
@Abhishek cool :p
 
\o
well lets go back to work <>_
 
sorry I see the full code they use is
> <script>for(x in document.write){document.write(x);}</script><input type crash>
crashed my IE
 
@rlemon BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO‌​OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO‌​OOOOOOOOOOOO
i dont even have ie 8-)
 
3:31 PM
I'm so in love with that "$(this) is Javascript" - Leonidas Meme!! should be channel logo
 
dafuq, why do people star my message? ~_~
3 messages moved to recycle bin
 
guys
this uses regex to filter html
any malformed html that could bypass this?
 
<<--!<>/><>>[]</]>!<-->
 
allowing to use <script> in it
 
ohh
 
3:36 PM
Hahahaha
 
what does the +0800 at the end of a 2822 date represent?
 
I think timezone
 
ok thanks
 
gmt+8 I think yes
 
@Vivix UTC + 8
 
3:39 PM
 The form "+0000" SHOULD be used to indicate a time zone at
   Universal Time.  Though "-0000" also indicates Universal Time, it is
   used to indicate that the time was generated on a system that may be
   in a local time zone other than Universal Time and therefore
   indicates that the date-time contains no information about the local
   time zone.
 
I don't use UTC when I can use GMT, especially since their definitions are so similar
 
GMT makes me feel we are still under british rule :$ for some crazy reason though GMT was invented by brits for that purpose only
 
not to get iformat to output that. but ill keep reading hopefully i can figure that out
 
What's the difference between UTC and GMT?
 
Difference to Greenwich time (GMT) in hours
 
3:42 PM
0
 
or UTC in hours
appearently
 
@owengerig Yeah, but what's the difference between the two?
 
UTC is coordinated though, so there is some difference in some form, but I don't know it properly
 
@AmaanCheval UTC == GMT // true , UTC === GMT // False
thats it ;-)
 
yes
 
3:42 PM
UTC is Zulu time isn' it
 
Universal time coordinated
Nothing I own of clocks or computers use it, so I always say GMT
 
The UTC standard was officially standardised in 1961 by the International Radio Consultative Committee, having been initiated by several national time laboratories.
The system was adjusted several times until leap seconds were adopted in 1972 to simplify future adjustments. A number of proposals have been made to replace UTC with a new system which would eliminate leap seconds but no consensus has yet been reached.
Today, time zones around the world are expressed as positive or negative offsets from UTC, as in the list of time zones by UTC offset.
 
> UTC, while based on zero degrees longitude, which passes through the Greenwich Observatory, is based on atomic time and includes leap seconds as they are added to our clock every so often.
That's pretty much the only difference I found
 
The fuck
the fuck
i found something intresting
 
3:44 PM
yeah leap seconds
 
NO WAY!
 
I'm still wondering why time is declared in such weird timezones like "CET" or "PST" crap.. there should only be UTC or GMT
 
What is it boy!?
 
UTC is based on International Atomic Time (TAI) with leap seconds added at irregular intervals to compensate for the Earth's slowing rotation.
 
one world - one timezone !!
(me for president)
 
3:44 PM
There's been 34 leap-seconds so far
 
UTC incorporates earth's slowing rotation , i doubt GMT does that
 
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Florian MargaineDrupal filters HTML strings against XSS attacks using regexes: http://api.drupal.org/api/drupal/includes%21common.inc/function/filter_xss/7 However, as a lot of people know, HTML can't be parsed with regex. Which makes me think that the filter_xss function could let some invalid HTML pass a scr...

 
Yeah, that's what Amaan's link says
 
GMT is kinda forced to, since it relates to our current time
it's not an absolute measurement of time, it's just a clock
Actually, it's not even a clock, but a definition of timezones
 
If you wanna have a mind-wrestle, try defining "second" (the time unit).
 
3:46 PM
a certain length, in a certain substance, by a certain particle
 
@Zirak the unit change in 4th dimension
 
@Zirak 1000 milliseconds
 
@Vivix chair: a certain furniture, made by a certain substance. Not very nicely defined
 
@FlorianMargaine define a millisecond
 
No, I forgot the exact particle and legnth
 
3:46 PM
@Abhishek Delta t is not the same as a second
 
but it is definable
 
and dont say 1/1000 second
 
@Zirak err i texted wrong :-/
 
SLI defined it
 
3:47 PM
1000 microseconds then :D
 
@FlorianMargaine That's a circular definition, since milliseconds are defined by seconds, and microseconds are defined by milliseconds, and so on.
 
A unit for measuring change in 4th dimension
 
the duration of 9,192,631,770 periods of the radiation corresponding to the transition between the two hyperfine levels of the ground state of the caesium 133 atom
that is one second, according to definition
 
@Vivix Cheater.
 
after all, a time interval is measurable delta between two states, pretty straighforward unless we'er talking about quantum times
 
3:48 PM
O wikipedia
 
in C#, 37 secs ago, by rlemon
MY APPLICATION WORKS IN WINDOWS 7 AND WINDOWS XP!!!
o what a glorious feeling
now, time for lunch
 
defining any unit is impossible btw
 
:D!!!
 
@Abhishek That's the usage, that doesn't define what that is.
 
define what a meter is
define what a liter is
 
3:48 PM
Defining any unit is impossible
 
@rlemon my app runs on all os's that support webkit ;D
 
@Abhishek A chair is an furniture you sit on, that does not define a chair
 
MacWinLin
 
Define it by practice is possible, and that's as far as definition goes
 
A unit is just something we made up that is commonly available and easy to reproduce
 
3:49 PM
a chair is not a unit.
 
And the way we reproduce the unit is its definition, in a way
it's not--very interesting or mind-boggling
 
@Zirak okay you define :-)
 
CAN'T DEFINE IT
 
There is a definition for meter; IIRC, it's a certain ratio between two geographical lengths
 
and there's a gold-standard, or what they call it
 
3:50 PM
It's like how we define a year: One Earth rotation around the sun
 
@Zirak so a unit is defined by another unit? :)
 
"time is that property of the Universe which prevents everything from happening all at once"
 
that'
s not how it works florian
 
@FlorianMargaine: I guess I can't without using "other" "defined" units
 
the lack of a unit describes the unit
 
3:51 PM
Time is one of the most arbitrary things
 
@jAndy define "meter" then
 
Two words: Planck units.
 
because certain ratio between 2 geographical lengths means FUD to me
 
really?
 
@FlorianMargaine No, I'm mistaken; it's a ration of n / lengthToSomeplace
 
3:52 PM
fqxi.org/data/essay-contest-files/Nikolic_FQXi_time.pdf <- a definition of time and hence seconds , ms
, ns , bs , cs , ds whateverS
 
all units are defined, we can't define them more than they already have been
 
ups :p
@FlorianMargaine: I guess I can't without using "other" "defined" units
 
if they weren't defined, by the description of that word, they would not be usable
You can
 
anyway, a distance is more physical measurable, than actual time
 
But yeah, I can't define a second. I can make up stuff (like the distance between two clock hands, the rate at which this sand-clock empties), but that won't capture the essence of a second.
 
3:53 PM
the lack of a unit to describe a distance, can be defined as a distance
 
@KendallFrey: plack length is not even proven
 
The measurements of space are very well defined, though. You can look them up if you want
 
What do you mean 'proven'?
 
anyone know of a good date time picker? The one im using doesnt seem to have an option to display that +0800 stuff and I need that for 2822 date
 
I can't get measured, ever
I sill believe in planck, but its no definition for anything
since we never ever can prove it
 
3:53 PM
@FlorianMargaine hy buddy
 
@Zirak Reminds me of Zeno's paradoxes
They're the best
Zeno's paradoxes are a set of philosophical problems generally thought to have been devised by Greek philosopher Zeno of Elea (ca. 490–430 BC) to support Parmenides's doctrine that "all is one" and that, contrary to the evidence of our senses, the belief in plurality and change is mistaken, and in particular that motion is nothing but an illusion. It is usually assumed, based on Plato's Parmenides 128c-d, that Zeno took on the project of creating these paradoxes because other philosophers had created paradoxes against Parmenides's view. Thus Zeno can be interpreted as saying that to a...
 
som1 just asked me to add file sharing in tapeer
 
You can probably define a meter using c
 
um whats the best way for that ?
 
I don't understand how a unit can be proven.
 
3:54 PM
@AmaanCheval Those are awesome
 
@Abhishek dropbox?
 
@FlorianMargaine no they want like facebook
like u can just add a file and send
 
We know exactly how long a Planck length is, but not how many are in a meter.
 
private?
 
(nod) - private / targetted
 
3:55 PM
@Zirak A meter is defined by using the units c and second.
 
> If everything when it occupies an equal space is at rest, and if that which is in locomotion is always occupying such a space at any moment, the flying arrow is therefore motionless.
 
@KendallFrey: any length below a certain level (not sure what it was right now, 10x-44?) is not measureable, hence planck length and times are actually more a concept which you might believe in or not
 
@Abhishek dunno then
 
kinda reminds me on religion
 
well am making one in node.js
 
3:56 PM
maybe stuff like megaupload
 
using filewriter and reader with websockets & p2p api
 
Hey guys, need some advice here, i need to align a div containing 3 <p>'s on the middle-bottom section. I have accomplished to align them on the middle with auto margins, and aligning them bottom with absolute positioning, is there a way to do both in CSS? I have a kludgy solution working with JS, but i really want to know if there is an apporach i havent tried
 
@Abhishek lol cool
@Abhishek I can host it if you want
 
@Zirak Why recursion? A while loop works fine.
 
@jAndy No, they are mathematically defined units.
Much like e and pi.
 
3:57 PM
@FlorianMargaine that'd be great !
lets make it modular then ;D
 
    c = 300,000 km/s
    c = 300,000 * 1000 m/s
    c * s / 3*10e7 = m

    assume s = 1
    m = c  / 3 * 10e7
    Definition: A meter is the distance light goes by in 1 second, divided by 3 * 10e7
 
O_o
 
Wrong. The number is 299,792,458 exactly.
 
@FlorianMargaine Tada!
@SomeKittens Because recursion
 
3:58 PM
@KendallFrey blah blah
 
1 min ago, by SomeKittens
@Zirak Why recursion? A while loop works fine.
 
Same answer: Because recursion
 
18 secs ago, by SomeKittens
1 min ago, by SomeKittens
@Zirak Why recursion? A while loop works fine.
 
You just don't get it. Recursion > all.
 
17 secs ago, by SomeKittens
18 secs ago, by SomeKittens
1 min ago, by SomeKittens
@Zirak Why recursion? A while loop works fine.
 

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