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7:00 PM
Is it wrong that I'm checking SO in my vacation? :|
 
Yes
 
@LuchianGrigore Speak of the devil!
 
I saw... and wth...
 
@LuchianGrigore Is it wrong that you're often checking it not on vacation?
:)
 
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Q: Pointers to Pointers (C++)

user1583115Ok I understand the concept of pointers to pointers. But I don't know why this doesn't work. void function(int **x) { *x = 10; } I keep getting the error: a value of type "int" cannot be assigned to an entity of type "int*" What am I doing wrong or what am I not understanding about poi...

That first sentence makes all the funny.
 
7:03 PM
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A: Pointers to Pointers (C++)

Mark Ransomx is pointing to a type of int *, not int. You either want to do *x = &10 or **x = 10.

*x = &10;
 
> I understand how this works, but I don't understand how this incorrect code doesn't.
 
@Prætorian waiiit..
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes ofc not... I learn something new every day (or on most days). Plus, there's that all too sweet rep muhahahha
 
@MooingDuck UNDERSTAND ALL THE THINGS
@LuchianGrigore Do you have a waiting line for temporary account takeovers?
 
Oooh, Coq thread.
 
7:06 PM
I hate that anytime we sell a copy of our software that marketing sends out a congratulatory email to the entire company. I'm a coder, I don't care that you guys are doing your job. Leave me to my job.
 
@Drise I don't think I do, considering I don't know what that means.
Do I have one by default? :)
 
You must sell a hell lot of copies if that is feasible.
 
@MooingDuck You should send them an email every time you have a successful build
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@Prætorian Dammit, I was about to say that.
 
@LuchianGrigore If you don't, mind "hacking" my account for a few hours? :P
 
7:07 PM
@Prætorian heh, serve em right
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Did you use Coq for anything yet?
 
Nah, ring a bell and send them an e-mail every time you close a bug.
 
@LuchianGrigore huh, your messages aren't "replies". You on a phone?
 
@Prætorian this :))
 
@mootinator we actually have a bell, but I can't hear it from my desk. They have a recording of the bell attached to the emails though.
 
7:08 PM
@CatPlusPlus I helped a couple of friends of mine that had to use it for some project for their master's course. That was the first and only time I ever laid eyes on it :S
 
It's so magical and scary.
 
@MooingDuck I'm using my phone as a hotspot, yes.
 
sbi
> From 4pm to 8pm this afternoon, I alone had 9 kids (5-8yo) to care for at a birthday party. They are gone now, and I am soo exhausted. — sbi
 
Which reminds me... I should probably stop. I only have 500MB included in my plan.
 
I made a note to try it sometime, but haven't got to it yet.
 
7:09 PM
@MooingDuck Being software people, you should be able to figure out a way to get it to automatically play on all the marketing computers.
 
There was also some Alloy but it didn't look as interesting.
Oh god, you guys are soooo redundant.
 
^ poor guy/on the count of three...
 
It's still on the screen, man.
 
@sbi soo isn't a word. It's so :-)
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I was counting backwards :)
 
sbi
7:11 PM
@sehe Ah, you have done that yourself. You seem to know what I'm talking about.
 
@Chimera Wrong ping?
 
@Drise Yeah apparently...
 
@sbi I don't know about nine kids, but I usually have a good time if I am with two or three of my little cousins. I suspect it's totally not the same thing.
 
@sbi Well, my kids are wee. Our parties are pretty 'British': basically a tea party :)
 
sbi
@Chimera It is, when you speak it the way I said it in that sentence. I am soooo exhausted.
 
7:11 PM
MSVC is crazy slow when attached to large projects :/
 
@Chimera Still wrong ping?
 
@Drise nope
 
@Chimera Oh, I thought you were making fun of @R.MartinhoFernandes's soooo
 
@sbi woah. Sounds exhausting
 
@MooingDuck especially the VS2010 .NET-based IDE... :(
 
7:12 PM
@Drise nope
 
@user1629821 Woah.... Who are you?
 
have added simplest timings on my system. Hope that helps — sehe 8 mins ago
^ completely rep-whored that :) Surprising to see just how non-conforming MSVC still is. Anyways, I think his timings are a bit odd.
@Drise Calm down. It is not a prime number: 757 ⨉ 2153
 
sbi
@R.MartinhoFernandes It all depends on the setting. Two or three (additional) kids in the garden are easy. Two or three of my teenage daughter's friends are bearable. Nine 5-8 year olds, all exited about a birthday party, pushing each other up by the minute, are really hard to handle.
 
@user1629821 Hi.
 
@sehe Are prime number users special?
 
7:16 PM
@Drise They are:
This all started about here:
Feb 16 at 23:00, by sehe
@user1131997 Did you know (trivia), that 1131997 is a prime number?
 
@sehe wtf
 
868546
Damn.
 
@Drise trolls
 
I'm even. :(
 
sbi
7:17 PM
> In my desperation, I invented a game that requires being silent and listen. Worked like a charm. The other parents were very interested. — sbi
 
sbi
No need to quote that, @sehe. I already did.
 
@sbi There were other parents there?
 
I'm out, gn
 
@LuchianGrigore peace
@MooingDuck Radek?
 
7:18 PM
@sbi Huh? Did what?
 
sbi
@sehe No, but when they came to pick up their kids, they were told by the kids that I had played a new game with them, and that they loved it.
 
@NikiC It's a conspiracy. Prime number users are evil.
 
@Drise You are doing well on your rep.
 
sbi
@sehe Quoted my tweet.
 
@chris I moused over, saw the link, and recalled the article :(
 
7:18 PM
@sbi Making us curious
 
@sbi Oh bit late. I had only deleted that 5 minutes ago, as in... <5s after posting :)
 
Didn't know Xaade was on the assholes list
 
@LuchianGrigore Have fun (that's what vacation is for, right?)
 
thinking about it, haven't seen him here for ages.
 
7:19 PM
@Chimera Have you already exhausted all my answers, and now are resorting to my questions? :p
 
Is this a bad idea? #define STATIC_ASSERT(EXP) static_assert(EXP, #EXP)
 
@Drise Not quite.
 
sbi
@sehe I pointed out that I had quoted the new tweet, too, so that you wouldn't have to do the same thing again.
 
@Drise That first prime user, which I acknowledged pretty quickly, turned out to be ... a huge 'friend' to the room over the coarse of months. That is, until he finally went full out with sockpuppets and all and got banned for >1 year, IIRC (/cc @NikiC)
@sbi Oh sure. Helpful, that.
 
@StackedCrooked itns't that exactly how assert works?
 
7:20 PM
You must think I'm constantly monitoring Twitter. Which, I'm not :)
 
@StackedCrooked Make it variadic.
I do that sometimes on ideone samples.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I can confirm that.
 
@sehe Kev? and course*
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes You mean a macro with variable #args?
 
sbi
@sehe Well, you quoted me about 20secs after I had tweeted it. I was about to ask what Twitter client you are using, that you are so fast.
 
7:21 PM
@sehe Who's that?
 
@Drise ? What about the three letters you wrote? Doesn't ring a bell
 
> That first prime user: Kev ♦?
 
sbi
@sehe Actually it was three words.
 
@Drise Guys, please don't upvote each other massively just out of gratitude. The last thing we want is to be accused of fostering voting rings or something (not that I'm accusing you of that, just that I can imagine someone thinking that). Please disregard if I got the wrong idea.
 
@sbi I just happened to see it coming in when I flipped across the tab. I got 'lucky'. Which is why I thought I'd countdown for your appearance in chat :)
I was too late, obviously
 
7:22 PM
@NikiC user1131997
 
@Drise I made a thorough analysis of all active chat users, and it turned out a number of moderator accounts are actually 'prime-numbered' users.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Did and didn't. I typically have a few people I routinly read their profile and read their Q&A's, and I typically upvote them.
 
@StackedCrooked #define STATIC_ASSERT(...) static_assert(__VA_ARGS__, #__VA_ARGS__)
 
Ah, in order to support comma's.
 
7:23 PM
@sehe I'm asking if he was a friend of chat. How so?
 
Nice.
 
Jul 20 at 0:36, by sehe
@keith.layne You can have the full list - so the prime factors aren't so redundant: Primality of SO chat users - first 100 pages of 'Most Active' users (2000 users)
@Drise Not very.
 
@Drise He was an annoyance, and a troll, and probably other bad things.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Oh, didn't pick up on the sarcasm.
 
@sehe are you really that bored or you just have a lot of spare time?
 
7:25 PM
@TonyTheLion Probably neither. (I mean, he probably did it out of curiosity, not boredom; and he probably didn't do it in his spare time :P)
 
@TonyTheLion As I recall, it didn't seem to take him very long. It went from wild idea to posted list in (going from memory) about 10 minutes.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes oh yea, this room is filled during working hours too :)
@JerryCoffin oh, wow. I missed that conversation completely
 
@sbi What game was that?
 
@TonyTheLion What time do you think it is right now?
 
7:29 PM
@TonyTheLion I am sometimes bored. It's the lounge, after all :) I'm just quoting from old chat logs now, in case you missed it
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes infact, only 14:30..
 
@Drise 13:30, AAMOF.
 
19:30 PM according to SO
 
I'm pretty sure that was in my spare time :)
21:30 :)
 
14:31
 
7:31 PM
Let's all mention weird deviant timezones
 
@MooingDuck Imagine that: SO getting yet something else wrong!
 
@Mysticial Keep us posted
 
@Drise 8:31pm
 
@MooingDuck Oh dammit, I forgot it's still Summer Time.
 
@sehe mine wasn't wierd, I went with server time!
@R.MartinhoFernandes I checked the chatlog :(
 
7:31 PM
@MooingDuck If it had been, I wouldn't have had to request weird ones, now would I?
 
mmmmm smoked salmon :)
 
@MooingDuck I think it's 11:30 by you, judging from the time's you say "im going to lunch". Am I remotely correct?
 
@sehe Indiana and Arizona. Oh, and western European time: a time zone full of weird deviants.
 
@Drise I eat late lunches :P But close. 11:30 would be Alaska time wouldn't it? (And good memory!)
 
I was going with PST
 
7:33 PM
@Drise it's 12:33 PST ATM
 
@MooingDuck Maybe I did my math wrong.
 
@Drise I just told you what my computer says. It could be lying to us.
 
man, timezones
 
@MooingDuck 12:33 PDT, isn't it?
 
MAYBE ITS NIGHTTIME AND NOBODY TOLD ME
 
7:34 PM
weirdest shit ever
 
sbi
@R.MartinhoFernandes One kid gets blinded by wrapping a towel around its head. The others silently arrange themselves in a circle around. Each one in the circle gets a small price. Then each one of them has to produce a peep sound. If the kid in the middle can tell one of the ones in the circle by the sound only, that one has lost and has to give up his price.
It's amazing how unable kids are to be silent, to not to chuckle, and not to say "I want the same price she has!", or "Now you said something and the kid in the middle knows who you are! Oops." I then made them switch places once again. We sometimes had to switch places half a dozen times, until they had it. Made the time fly by.
 
@MooingDuck Is blue really blue? It may be red, and no one told you.
 
@TonyTheLion especially with DST, and then the countries that have 30 minute offsets for DST instead of an hour....
 
I hate DST
 
@sbi Hehe, sounds fun to watch (and I suppose it was fun for the kids too).
 
7:36 PM
@MooingDuck that's weird and confusing
 
waitasecond, why do variables that I've deleted have values? STupid debugger...
 
@MooingDuck There are other offsets.
Also, we've had this conversation before.
 

Hammer time!
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OK, I understand X completely. But when I do X it fails. What is wrong? PS: My code is an industry secret. Besides, it's a gazillion lines.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I'm pretty sur ethere are, but I wasn't certain, and I knew if I was wrong, I'd be pounced on
 
7:37 PM
@sehe In Soviet Russia...
 
34 mins ago, by Mooing Duck
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Q: Pointers to Pointers (C++)

user1583115Ok I understand the concept of pointers to pointers. But I don't know why this doesn't work. void function(int **x) { *x = 10; } I keep getting the error: a value of type "int" cannot be assigned to an entity of type "int*" What am I doing wrong or what am I not understanding about poi...

 
Ah, yes, that's like
 
Apr 24 at 14:43, by R. Martinho Fernandes
@Collin There's UTC+12:45, UTC+13:45, UTC+05:45, and many others that are no longer in use. There was also once a UTC+04:51, and several other crazy ones.
 
@Cheersandhth.-Alf ...or, as my old boss was wont to say: "Sure, we're experts at that. How'd you spell that again?"
 
7:38 PM
@sehe probably for @CatPlusPlus it's that time
definitely yesterday it was
was quite hilarious
 
did I miss much?
He went on mumble?!
ah - keep forgetting that quoting deleted messages doesn't work anymore, even for owners
 
35 secs ago, by Mooing Duck
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@sehe It does.
You're doing it wrong.
 
I think oneday I'm going to randomly rename myself to mooningduck for a day, and see if anyone notices.
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Oh. Keep forgetting to do it right then. I think it is time to write my will, while I still have my wits about me some of the time
@MooingDuck You'll get a notice, even
 
@MooingDuck Don't do it on a weekend. I won't be here to notice
 
7:42 PM
@sehe a notice?
@Drise I'm not in chat on weekends
 
@MooningDuck You'll also need to find the appropriate avatar.
 
GAH!
========== Build: 0 succeeded, 0 failed, 1 up-to-date, 0 skipped ==========
NO! NO IT IS NOT! REBUILD IT!
 
Lol
 
sbi
@R.MartinhoFernandes They loved it. Although I do have to admit that it is quite hard to take the spirit out of kids at a birthday party. All you can do is try to stop them from working up each other until they explode. Doing this all alone is hard, though. Wile you blind one of the kids, three are playing a game grabbing its arms with increasing violence, two try to peek into the bag with the prizes, one fails at the toilet, and there's the pizza in the oven.
 
Sounds like a dependency problem
 
7:44 PM
@Drise You mean, a @MooingDuck problem?
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;)
 
@sbi Prices. Don't you mean prizes? Prices are usually how much something costs..
 
I mean, it seems like that's the only kind of problems he ever gets.
 
> Wile you blind one of the kids, three are playing a game grabbing its arms with increasing violence, two try to peek into the bag with the prices, one fails at the toilet, and there's the pizza in the oven.

> Sounds like a dependency problem
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes seriously. I would kill to just have a bug in my code sometime :/
 
is men in black III good
 
7:45 PM
@Drise
 
@Jacob .
 
@Cheersandhth.-Alf no
 
@Drise: Sorry new to chat
 
lol, that was fast.
 
sbi
7:45 PM
@Drise Yeah, I do. Thanks. (Both translate to the same word in German. Confusing, that.)
 
@Jacob Howdy, then.
 
sbi
@Mysticial Yeah, I had noticed that, too.
 
@Jacob Good day then!
 
@Drise
Later!
 
That is my name
I'm.... confused.
 
7:46 PM
@Jacob I think a communication mishap happened
 
Yes, and I've been using it too often. My apologies
 
@Drise you said good day, he thought you meant you were leaving
 
@MooingDuck: Exactly
 
@MooingDuck Good day whenever I've used it is the tips hat kind as in Good morning
 
7:47 PM
@Drise but everyone is not Drise. Some people say it when leaving as well.
 
@Drise: I said, Good Day sir!
 
@Jacob Indeed!
 
@MooingDuck: Did you ever find the elusive 10th address?
 
@Drise then people would notice
 
@MooingDuck It probably helps when you can hear the tonal inflections.
 
7:48 PM
@Jacob it's easy to find, the question is what is there?
@Drise yeah
 
@MooingDuck Probably a segfault for trying to access OS memory
 
sbi
@Cheersandhth.-Alf Depends on what you expect. If you go to the cinema to enjoy a Hollywood movie while eating popcorn, and if you had fun watching the first two, the third is fun to watch, too. If the last movies you liked where by Jim Jarmusch, Aki Kaurismäki, and Wim Wenders, you won't like MIIIB at all.
 
@MooingDuck: It's a pity the user has skedaddled ; I would have liked to see the response
 
@Drise I think technically it's not OS memory, it's nothing at all (virtual addresses and all)
 
@Jacob Of what's at &10?
 
@MooingDuck It's probably (not) mapped to the same page as the null pointer.
 
@Drise: check out the comments on that question
 
sbi
So which one of you is Nikita?
 
@Jacob I've been following that one; I'm aware.
 
sbi
7:51 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes I asked which of you guys is Nikita.
 
@sbi It's my other 'me'. I suffer from multiple personality disorder. She's... quite terrifying.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes On Windows the entire bottom page is disallowed IIRC
 
sbi
@Drise Your other you is living in Berlin?
 
On Windows first 4 or 64kB of address space are unusable.
 
@sbi She flies there on occasion. In fact, I was going to fly out to see her in December.
 
7:52 PM
@MooingDuck Yeah, that's why added the "(not)" in parentheses.
 
sbi
@Drise "living in Berlin"
 
@sbi Why would anyone be?
 
Or at least were some time ago. I don't really follow developments in "beginning of the address space" department.
 
@sbi She stays for a few weeks to months.
 
@CatPlusPlus I read about it in the docs of WINE at some point.
 
7:53 PM
I read about it on Old New Thing, I think.
 
@MooingDuck Oh yea, like that crap piece of shit is actually a useful reference.
 
@sbi well i liked the first two
 
@Drise I learned something about Windows
 
actually i like actors, like smill with, not particular movies
 
I'm getting good at cabal dance around reinstalls and broken dependencies.
 
7:54 PM
@Cheersandhth.-Alf will smith?
 
sbi
@Cheersandhth.-Alf Then I predict you will like the third one, too. Me and one of my sons had fun.
 
yes
kay, thx!
 
Stupid network requiring Cygwin.
WS didn't play Kay.
 
Will Smith is a badass, in fact. I love practically every movie he's done, especially I Am Legend and iRobot
 
@CatPlusPlus You mean, cabal is crap too?
 
7:55 PM
@CatPlusPlus I'm pretty sure it's 'K'
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes It has warts.
They mostly resolve around dependency handling, not building itself though.
 
sbi
@R.MartinhoFernandes He just started to follow me on Twitter. He knows @sehe, too. And a lot of what he tweets I have seen before. Some at SO.
Oh, @sehe seems to know him.
 
@sbi @NikiC is Nikita Popov, of course
 
They're also partially a fault of GHC and Hackage policies.
 
Some WTF is going on here. The performance of my code depends on whether the class name has 15 or 16 chars...
Wait, really?
 
7:57 PM
@Drise What the... I'd love to see the question behind that
@Drise RTTI can do that I suppose
 
@MooingDuck PHP
 
@sbi Ohhhh, he's following me too. He's a room owner from the PHP room that sometimes pops here.
 
@sehe oh right, people use lanugages besides C++
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He's a PHP core dev.
 
He's cool.
 
7:57 PM
Affirmative
 
I should infiltrate the PHP room, and start flagging random things, just so we can make fun of PHP
 
He's one of those smart PHP people you can actually talk with.
 
@MooingDuck I haven't used a lanugage in quite while now
 
Did I just see three of you speak positive about a PHP dev?
 
?! You have a perverted idea of fun. Please don't :)
Oh right, you can't see flags, is it
 
7:58 PM
@Drise no
 
I'm subtly trying to get him out of there. And possibly into Haskell.
 
@CatPlusPlus woah, "smart" and "PHP" in the same sentence :P
 
@sehe It sounds like a beautiful plan.
 
flags are not a toy
 
@MooingDuck Some use other languages. Others use PHP.
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7:59 PM
They're not even useful
 
@CatPlusPlus lol
 
Xeo
@MooingDuck He seems like an OK guy atleast
 
sbi
@R.MartinhoFernandes Mhmm. I don't remember him. Hides head in shame.
 

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