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9:00 PM
@Collin "The earth is 6k years old!"
 
Hmmm. Last time I checked .NET's JIT compiler wasn't capable of utilizing SSE.
 
Is there something disputed about maps?
@IAmBatman That's Geology
 
@thecoshman y u never talk.
 
@Collin Yes
 
@cHao Include me in the scum bunch, while you're at it.
 
9:00 PM
Room policy proposal: no religion talk.
 
That's probably a good general rule
 
Not even wicca? :(
 
Because gods it's boring like shit and never gets anywhere.
 
@CatPlusPlus Considered.
 
especially not wicca.
wishy washy pansies.
 
9:01 PM
@cHao athiest
 
This room should have RFCs.
 
@CatPlusPlus I'm up for it, if it includes no atheism talk too.
 
I've heard about a wicca follower who won 42 million USD in a lottery and then went to create a Kickstarter for his perfect MMO game for 1 million.
 
How about ateapotism
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yes.
 
user1182183
9:01 PM
@RadekSlupik what's RFC? ;x
 
or atoothfairyism
 
@Cicada lysdexic?
 
@GamErix It’s Google.
 
@cHao slydexic
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes You could argue atheism is a religion in itself.
 
9:01 PM
@IDWMaster Wrong
 
I know Wiccan people. They are awesome.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Religion typically is ignorance. It's hard to believe in anything even vaguely similar to what the Bible describes, if you're reasonably well educated in anything relating to life the Earth or the Universe.
 
Correct
Ding ding ding
 
@IDWMaster I don't want to argue that, and that's why I tried to make it explicit.
 
@IAmBatman Well played.
 
9:02 PM
I think that's very different from saying "ok, so we're pretty sure of the Big Bang, we know how life evolved, and we've got got at least a general idea of the history of our planet. But is there, perhaps, some kind of God sitting behind it all, not directly interacting with the universe? We don't know"
@IDWMaster Only if you don't know what atheism (or religion) is.
 
user1182183
RFC-documenten – voluit Request for Comments – zijn documenten die de protocollen en andere aspecten van het internet beschrijven. De RFC-documenten komen tot stand door een discussie- en publicatieproces dat wordt georganiseerd door de RFC Editor. Ze worden uiteindelijk als standaard bekrachtigd door de Internet Engineering Task Force. De RFC-documenten zijn doorzoekbaar op de website van de RFC Editor. Op deze site is ook allerlei informatie te vinden over de totstandkoming van RFC's en Internet-standaarden. Geschiedenis De eerste RFC's werden uitgegeven in 1969 in verband met het ARP...
 
user1182183
still don't get it
 
creation.com/atheism-a-religion --- "“Atheism is the position that affirms the non-existence of God. It proposes positive disbelief rather than mere suspension of belief."
 
@GamErix Me either. It looks dutch, but that's about all I can tell
 
9:02 PM
@GamErix Maybe because you're reading a weird language version of that document.
 
@IDWMaster Atheism is the lack of belief in a God. Hence, a + theism.
 
user1182183
O goh, I live in Netherlands
 
i won't argue that i'm going on faith. i just have faith in stuff that doesn't require sky fairies and miracles to explain :)
 
user1182183
12 years,
 
9:03 PM
Fact: non-English wikipedias suck. Evidence: Portuguese Brazilian wikipedia.
 
@IAmBatman No; you're thinking of agnostic
 
user1182183
1 year in germany
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Fact: you suck.
 
Fact: non-English websites suck.
 
Atheism is annoying and religion is annoying and both sides should shut the fuck up.
 
user1182183
9:03 PM
and all the rest in Poland
 
@GamErix Join mumble. All the Dutch speakers are on :) (except je4d, rubenvb and likely some others)
 
@Cicada Only some kinds of food.
 
@IDWMaster Most atheists do not claim they know for a fact there is no God just like they do not know for a fact there's no tooth fairy. They just don't believe in something until there's evidence for it. Gnosticism is a claim about knowledge, btw, not belief.
 
Most of us are atheists about most gods of the past (i.e. Roman gods, Greek gods). Some of us go one god further.
 
ALL RELIGION TALK BEYOND THIS POINT WILL BE BINNED.
 
9:03 PM
JESUS WILL YOU MARRY ME
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@CatPlusPlus shush, you
 
@sehe And on Mumble!
 
@Cicada Yes
 
user1182183
@sehe never heard of mumbleeee heh ; p something like teamspeak?
 
@GamErix Yes.
 
9:04 PM
@Cicada YES!
 
@GamErix Yup
 
@sehe Dammit! You beat me to it.
 
@GamErix Yeah, only everyone only grunts into their microphones
 
@IAmBatman sorry, no. a + the + ism. as in, belief that there are no gods.
 
user1182183
@Collin mumbalabumbimbam xd
 
9:04 PM
i'm tired of you agnostic pansies trying to steal our word. :)
 
@cHao a = not. atheist = not a theist.
 
a + the is bad grammar.
Atheism = belief in bad grammar.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Asexual?
 
@IAmBatman you don't get to selectively break it up. break it all the way up or not at all.
 
I consider myself a deist.
 
9:05 PM
@Drise Wut.
 
user1182183
and I consider myself Fuck Everything.
 
Anyways I think it's funny when people claim that somehow you must believe in something different than you mean because they interpret your "ism" differently :P
 
@jalf Sorry, that's not what I meant. I need to think it up a bit deeper to elaborate. Probably won't happen any time soon.
 
That might be the cause of , you know.
 
I simply see no reason to believe in the existence of a God. That's about as atheistic as it gets, and absolutely no belief or faith is involved. I don't see how anyone can reasonably call this position a "religion"
 
user1182183
9:06 PM
Hmh, i got over girls, well still, in the future i want to have a kiddo, but for now I want to live without females.
 
@IAmBatman well, you are using the wrong word, so it's totally understandable :P
 
@cHao Break it up all the way, it's the same thing. a = not. That's all that matters, here.
 
@jalf kopimism is a religion too…
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Idk, just another a.* word.
 
9:07 PM
Are you religious for not believing in the flying spaghetti monster?
 
keming
 
@TonyTheLion That's a really crappy joke: shit must be real to start with.
 
Are you not an aFSMist?
 
9:07 PM
@IAmBatman Most of us are atheists about most gods (i.e. Roman gods, Greek gods). Some of us go one god further.
 
If you're going to make math jokes, at least get the math right.
 
@IAmBatman nope. cause there are other parts you still haven't broken up yet.
 
I want to get ordained by the church of FSM
 
@Drise Quite right, Mr. dawkins
 
9:08 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes I already deconstructed that part on mumble :)
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I copy & pasted it, give me a break
 
@IAmBatman I thought that was likely to be the best damn quote of that entire thing.
 
doesn't fsm say if you want to be a deacon, you'e a deacon? or is that discordian?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Shit just got complex?
 
@TonyTheLion twitch
 
9:08 PM
@TonyTheLion you fail at spelling.
 
A dios!
 
@IDWMaster Adios* one word only
 
@StackedCrooked I just got a shitty complexion
 
sbi
9:10 PM
@CatPlusPlus Let's adhere to that religiously!
 
lame pun
 
pame lun
 
@sbi You suck.
 
@CatPlusPlus nice one :)
 
sbi
@CatPlusPlus What?
 
9:10 PM
@IAmBatman I've got the Gospel of the FSM on a shelf somewhere. :)
 
@CatPlusPlus WIN
 
lol
 
btw... :)
Origin:
1580–90; < Greek áthe ( os ) godless + -ism
 
@CatPlusPlus My uncle sucks.
 
@RadekSlupik That's tragic.
 
9:11 PM
@cHao orly? don't tell me you didn't know that? ._.
 
@GamErix I lost.
 
orally
 
@GamErix Please stop talking about that leaked source, thanks.
 
@RadekSlupik You like to take it?
 
@Cicada i knew...just went and officially looked it up
 
9:11 PM
@cHao Dude, it doesn't matter, lol. Most atheists agree on how they interpret their own stance, here, regardless of how you want to interpret it. It's a lack of belief.
 
@Drise not from you.
 
@cHao right right
Silly merkin
 
And for crying out loud don't put it on Wikipedia.
 
user1182183
Tell it to the editors
 
1 message moved to bin
 
user1182183
9:12 PM
I never edited any wiki article in my life
 
@IAmBatman it's not how i want to interpret it...it's how it is. you agnostic pansies are all using the wrong word, and i demand you change it now.
 
user1182183
I don't even know how it works XD
 
:)
 
@GamErix you click “edit”, make changes and hit save.
 
Right.
 
9:13 PM
It ain’t rocket science.
 
user1182183
just some google code wiki
 
@cHao Agnosticism is a different realm entirely. That is about knowledge, not belief. Different thing.
 
user1182183
oh not even a account required?
 
user1182183
Lol.
 
@cHao I honestly can't understand how anyone can draw a line between agnosticism and atheism
 
9:13 PM
@GamErix I once edited an article to remove some vandalism, and a bot undid my edit on the grounds of vandalism.
 
user1182183
xD
 
It would make sense to draw a line between "those who do not know if a God exists", and "those who know that no God exists". But that would put a whopping zero people in the latter group
 
Agnosticism is atheism without the part where you annoy other people with it.
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@jalf the line is, if you believe there's no god, you're atheist. if you don't want to go that far, you're an agnostic pansy. :)
 
And honestly I don't see why it matters if god exists or not.
 
9:14 PM
So really, the difference between atheism and agnosticism is simply that an atheist says "I don't think any God exists", and an agnostic says "I don't think any God exists... But I don't have the balls to admit it because it might piss off the Christians"
 
@CatPlusPlus Because afterlife and other goodies.
 
pretty much, yeah.
 
user1182183
@jalf Why draw lines? Put circles around them, mix them and you get a nuclear reaction :)
 
@jalf the theists*
 
I say "I don't give a fuck if god exists or not", and I'm so glad I don't fall in any of those camps.
 
9:15 PM
@GamErix We'll I'm fine with not drawing any lines. It just puzzles me whenever I meet a self-proclaimed agnostic, who believes the exact same thing as me, and yet claims that he and I fall into different camps
 
@jalf and that's why i resent agnostics stealing the word. :)
 
15 mins ago, by Cat Plus Plus
Room policy proposal: no religion talk.
 
But seriously let's talk about something better.
 
@Cicada no, I meant agnostics and atheists. Nothing about theists :)
 
@jalf piss off theists*
 
user1182183
9:16 PM
@CatPlusPlus teem drama is not the topic anymore ;x But I think this is better than teen drama
 
My hobby is pissing people off.
 
@cHao Agnostic atheist = doesn't believe God exists but doesn't claim to know this is true. Gnostic atheist = doesn't believe in a God and claims to know that this belief is true.
 
@CatPlusPlus C++?
:P
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes You're evil.
 
@Cicada oh, that part. Technically true, but no, with the ones I've met, it's been predominantly Christians, not theists in general
 
9:16 PM
@CatPlusPlus Hey, I'm a robot. What did you expect?
 
"agnostic atheist"? quit backpedaling. either you're atheist or you aren't. :)
 
@CatPlusPlus You're in the agnostic camp. Sorry.
 
Schweppes.
 
Amnesia: The Dark Descent is really good. I feel like I should have paid more for it.
 
9:17 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Rejoyce! You can. Just click on the purchase link and you can add more monee.
 
I have that on a shirt. ^
 
:The division makes no sense. No sane atheist will claim to know that his belief is true
 
@Drise I very much don't care about that fact.
 
@cHao You can be a gnostic or agnostic atheist. It's not backpedaling. A lot of people try to bin atheists as gnostic atheists when in fact most are actually agnostic atheists, and most people think "agnostic" just means "I don't know" when in fact they too are agnostic atheists
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes You really are a robot.
 
9:18 PM
Just say it: you don't believe in the existence of a god. End of discussion. No need to graduate invent imaginary degrees and factions
 
@CatPlusPlus What? Why?
 
@jalf correct
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes THIS GAME IS SCARY
 
@jalf Thank you. +1
 
@CatPlusPlus That's why it's cool!
 
9:18 PM
You can't be a "gnostic atheist" unless you're also insane and schizophrenic
 
@jalf the distinction largely exists because you'll get a bunch of theists who do claim to know their belief is true, unlike the atheists
 
an atheist knows perfectly well that we have no way of being sure
 
That sounds like a disease.
 
God exists and there was no man on the moon nor robot on mars. End of storee.
 
Also, if it makes you feel any better, I can't make long sessions of playing it.
 
9:19 PM
@IAmBatman it's your damn fault for using the word that freaking *means" "believing in no gods"
 
also, sleepytime
 
speechless...
 
nice boobs
 
Look at that microphone.
 
@CatPlusPlus That I like the adrenalin of feeling afraid?
 
9:19 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes No, "gnostic atheist".
 
if you're not willing to be so "binned", quit using the wrong damn word! :)
 
Stop being pedantic in not-funny ways.
 
@Cicada Someone needs to get their head out of the fish bowl.
 
@Drise If my fish does that, he dies, duh.
 
9:20 PM
@cHao The right word is being used; it's just an unfortunate fact that many people misinterpret
 
So, in other news, turns out Mars is rocky.
 
Amazing.
 
anyways, done debating
 
Is it red?
 
thanks for the article jalf
 
9:21 PM
They're still investigating the colour.
 
Mars is brown.
Also there is water on Mars.
 
Poo is brown.
Mars is brown.
Therefore Mars is poo.
 
incoming meme picture
i knew it
so predictable
 
@IAmBatman sorry, no. it's not the right word. if it were the right word, you wouldn't be having such a problem with being "misrepresented".
 
@RadekSlupik This picture is older than Internet.
 
9:22 PM
The picture is older than Mars.
 
you just wanna be "atheist" cause it sounds cool and pisses off the bible thumpers. :)
 
I was an atheist, before it was cool.
 
Atheist penises are bigger.
 
People are born atheist.
 
9:23 PM
Why is that mars labeled in french
 
Oh for fuck's sake really, just get over it. You're arguing something that is so irrelevant I don't even know how to express how irrelevant it is.
._.
 
._.
 
.—.
 
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|
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Let's not do this again.
 
9:23 PM
Meh, combos.
 
Aaand too late.
 
@Cicada Maybe it's from Canada?
 
Maybe martians speak french
 
Maybe it's from France.
 
@CatPlusPlus so why don't you just leave it alone? This entire room is based on arguing irrelevant things
Let's ban all irrelevant talk!
 
9:25 PM
I have to be angry about something in religion debates.
 
And the room fell silent for the next 21 days
 
this place'll get mighty damn quiet, i think.
 
@CatPlusPlus can't you just, you know, not get involved? :p
 
What. That's crazy.
 
9:25 PM
lol
 
anyway, 'nite
 
@jalf He'd die. Show some compassion.
 
it's religion! every's gotta have a side!
even the ones that don't
 
Crazy. I was crazy once. They locked me in a room. A rubber room. With rubber mice. I hate rubber mice. The cheese. The cheese makes me crazy. Crazy. I was crazy once. They locked me in a room. I loved that room. I died in that room. They buried me where the flowers grew. The flowers grew up and the roots grew down. A worm tickled my nose. That drove me crazy. Crazy. I was crazy once...
 
9:26 PM
> We're sending you this email because we love you.
 
That wraps it up nicely.
 
@Chimera Sounds like a schizo
 
:-)
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes They've sent mine to wrong email. :<
 
@RadekSlupik Ever get an email back from my professor?
 
9:27 PM
If they cared they wouldn't have done that.
I'm sad.
 
@Drise NEIN.
 
@CatPlusPlus lol, they don't love you.
@jalf Have fun.
 
Nobody does. ;_;
 
stroke stroke
 
Oh yes, perfect. I just modeled a butt.
 
9:27 PM
blank stare
 
nigga stare
 
I think it's spelled nigga.
 
I have an image coming, one sec.
 
Second's gone.
You're a liar.
I need to friend zone GitHub.
 
@Drise I was crazy once.. :-)
 
9:29 PM
I'm still baffled by the amount of stupidity in the YouTube Music Top 15
 
"I'm still baffled by the amount of stupidity in the YouTube" FTFY
 
That too
 
 
@Drise What a useless graph, you asshole.
 
It's YouTube.
 
9:30 PM
@RadekSlupik It's actually quite useful.
 
Why are you baffled by anything.
 
Wait, what.
 
It's just a stylistic figure. I don't actually care.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Rocky Horror Planet
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I guess I really am more cynical than most -- I'm generally amazed when something on YouTube isn't stupid.
 
9:31 PM
@Drise Is that the tip of a dick?
 
Wait, what.
 
What.
 
@EtiennedeMartel No.
 
What.
 
What.
 
9:32 PM
It sure looks like one.
 
> Hey, I just met you, and this is crazy. But here's my number, so call me maybe
SLUT
 
It's some electromagnetic something or other that I have no idea about.
 
@Cicada What?
 
Some stupid song that currently is YT Top 1
 
@Drise So that's what kids call it these days, huh?
@Cicada Where do you find that?
Forget I asked. I really don't want to know.
 
9:33 PM
What? You guys don't know about Call Me Maybe?
What a bunch of slowpokes.
 
Seriously?
 
Y u guys not on Mumble?
 
Don't actually click
 
@EtiennedeMartel soundcloud.com/nickraymondg/call-me-greyhound-kap-slap About the only good use of Call Me Maybe.
 
9:34 PM
@Cicada Too late. You used caps, could not resist.
 
@Cicada I accidentally the link. Is this bad?
 
What a stupid song.
 
Ell
@StackedCrooked would be if i was in blighty!
 
There were memes all over 9gag about that song.
 
9fag
 
9:36 PM
So, I'd assume Reddit is infected as well.
 
Ell
@Cicada I agree with the slut thing.
sluts make me sad.
 
Sluts are slutty.
 
Metaslut.
 
Then call her maybe.
 
Using word "slut" makes you automatically backward-minded bigot.
 
9:38 PM
Hi "Maybe", how are you?
 
I don't even know her number.
 
Middle ages called, they want you back.
 
Middle ages called, they don't want you back.
 
hahah
 
@CatPlusPlus :<<<<<
 
9:39 PM
@EtiennedeMartel 514-761-6131
 
Ell
@CatPlusPlus why?
 
Oh I just watched the whole clip for the first time
 
Also double standards.
 
Spoiler: the cute guy ends up being gay XD hilarious oh wow.
 
And you're terrible person.
 
9:40 PM
@MooingDuck Why did you send me a number to the Douglas Institute?
 
@CatPlusPlus Go back to testing.
 
@EtiennedeMartel impressive, most people ignore the numbers I give them
 
@CatPlusPlus We already established that.
 
@EtiennedeMartel You recognized it didn't you?
 
who's causing a stir here?
 
9:41 PM
@Ell Because it's always used in a double standard context.
And it's nothing wrong, so there you go.
 
Ell
@CatPlusPlus there's something wrong when you hurt people/mislead people
 
What.
 
@MooingDuck I googled it. Then realized it actually pointed to McGill's mental research institute.
 
What does this have to do with anything.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Home?
 
9:42 PM
@EtiennedeMartel You ran out of sanity points. :(
I'm gonna go shoot some zombies.
 
Ell
@CatPlusPlus because sluts mislead people :L
 
> Microsoft wants you to use their shady wizards and complicated 20-clicks-per-action dialogs, so you (a) think Windows is awesome because 'it can do so much'. (b) think you're getting a lot of work done (since you're clicking sooooo many buttons, Woot!)
 
Hurting and misleading people is a great way to show off how awesome you are.
 
@Ell What.
 
@RadekSlupik Shooting them is the best way.
 
9:43 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes 30-40 years in jail sucks though.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes That’s less fun. Or well, the fun is of a shorter duration.
 
@StackedCrooked Shoot the jailers!
 
@StackedCrooked Go live in the Netherlands. Three years max.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes It's not even my neighborhood.
 
Oh boy, you're worse than I expected.
 
Ell
9:44 PM
@RadekSlupik for shooting people?
 
Yeah, right.
 
@Ell something like that.
You actually get a year or ten but most people get free after three~five years.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes That might work.
 
@StackedCrooked Here the maximum sentence for any crime is twenty-five years. The minimum for murder is five years.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes so what do you get 25 for?
Using goto?
 
9:46 PM
Here the maximum is a life sentence, with no possibility of conditional release before 25 years.
 
Here it's random and generally ridiculous but not as bad as Sweden.
 
In Belgium life sentence is 30 years of which you have to do at least 10 years
 
> life sentence is 30 years
._.
 
@LuchianGrigore Stuff? Average for murder is ten years. It depends on things and shit.
 
yea weird, I know
 
9:47 PM
You can get an aggravated sentence and go up to twenty five.
 
Back home, it's very random. For example, if you steal a loaf of bread, you get somewhere between 10-15 year. If you steal millions from the state, you get 2-3 years w/ probation.
 
i love how "life sentence" means "some number of years that's less than people actually live, so you'll still almost certainly be alive when it's up"
 
@TonyTheLion So, they shoot you after 30 years of incarceration?
 
The character '\0' is pronounced NUL, not null. NUL is a char, null is a pointer. — FredOverflow 1 min ago
 
@cHao Unless you shoot them in the end.
 
9:48 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes no, they release you back in socieity
 
@FredOverflow You're wrong!
I hate this!
 
@FredOverflow Phonetic writing please
 
NUL is an abbreviation.
The character is named "null".
 
Only the worst of the worst doesn't ever go free again
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes but then you get your own "life sentence", and it just keeps on giving :)
 
9:49 PM
Stop miscorrecting people!
I hate that.
 
@FredOverflow We had this argument earlier. I still agree with you though.
 
I'm all worked up now!
 
Still, according to most studies, social reinsertion is better than incarceration.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Get on mumble. Learn Dutch
 
Wait a minute, how can a char and a pointer both have the same name?
 
9:49 PM
Jul 30 at 22:25, by R. Martinho Fernandes
Using NUL makes you look like a fool because you're abbreviating an L.
 
@FredOverflow ?! Isn't that because Char is a medium?
 
@EtiennedeMartel except for that whole part about how you've kept them out of society so long that all they know anymore is a criminal's mindset
 
@FredOverflow Because things having the same name was never an issue for programmers :S
 
@FredOverflow arrays decay to pointers?
 
@Drise So? Chars are not arrays.
 
9:50 PM
The null character (also null terminator), abbreviated NUL, is a control character with the value zero. It is present in many character sets, including ISO/IEC 646 (or ASCII), the C0 control code, the Universal Character Set (or Unicode), and EBCDIC. It is available in nearly all mainstream programming languages. The original meaning of this character was like NOP—when sent to a printer or a terminal, it does nothing (some terminals, however, incorrectly display it as space). When electromechanical teleprinters were used as computer output devices, one or more null characters were...
 
@FredOverflow char s[20] is
 
@cHao Hence the whole "reinsertion" part: don't put them in prison to begin with.
 
@cHao I've heard of people in the US having 300+ years of incareration.
 
@Drise char[20] is not a char.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Stop misunderestimating me!
And Bush!
 
9:51 PM
@FredOverflow I'm confused.
 
@Drise So it seems.
 
Texas has implemented more progressive policies in regard to law enforcement. Turns out it saves money, and it reduces crime rates.
 
I should have gone to bed a while ago. What's wrong with me?
 
@MooingDuck haha, and to think their country is nearly that young
 
@Drise I don't understand why you brought array-to-pointer decay into the discussion when it was about chars and pointers.
 
9:52 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes "For having brutally killed his wife, Dudley Wayne Kyzer was sentenced to imprisonment for 10,000 years in 1981. This remains the longest sentence given in the US till date. For having killed his mother in law and a college student, he was also given life sentences for each of the crimes in addition to the 10,000 years. The judge justified his verdict in the name of the brutality of the murders." topcultured.com/longest-prison-sentences
 
@StackedCrooked :) Is there an established word for "'correcting' people that are correct into being wrong"?
Other than "lying".
 
@FredOverflow I thought we were talking about.... oh... I see now.
 
Confusing, trolling?
 
@MooingDuck jeez
that's a long time
 
@sehe Not quite as exact as "miscorrecting", though.
 
9:53 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes I know
 
@FredOverflow Why can we name a heap a heap (dynamic storage) and a heap a heap (binary tree)?
 
@TonyTheLion "In 1972, twenty year old Palma de Mallorca was demanded to three hundred eighty four thousand nine hundred and twelve years of sentence for having failed to deliver letters. His crime of not delivering over four thousand letters resulted in such a huge punishment by the Spanish judiciary. This remains the longest sentence demanded so far in history."
 
lol
 
@Drise context
 
@Drise Are you trying to break our parser circuits?
 
9:53 PM
@FredOverflow What about heaps stored on the heap?
@sehe Yes
 
@MooingDuck damn
 
@Drise what about them?
 
@Drise I rarely use the heap in C++, I mostly use the free store.
 
Jul 30 at 22:24, by R. Martinho Fernandes
@Drise You can check all of the C, C++, ASCII, and Unicode standards: it's called the null character.
 
9:54 PM
384 thousand years for being a shitty mailman?? that's just a tad out of whack...
 
I prefer to lie and call it the NUL character if it helps distinguishing between chars and pointers. Which it does for me.
Alternatively, we could call the null pointer the NIL pointer.
 
._.
 
> Wait a minute, how can a char and a pointer both have the same name?
> Because things having the same name was never an issue for programmers :S
 
Null means zero, you know.
 
@sehe I don't see the problem here.
 
9:56 PM
Fuck terminology.
 
nil is the same concept as null (or very close)
 
@Drise edits
 
Or we could just get rid of C strings and nullable references. No more nulls, no more problems!
 
they don't. NUL != NULL. well, technically, they have the same value in c++, but...eh.
 
nil means “no object”.
 
9:56 PM
@FredOverflow That's fine, but "correcting" people about it is wrong.
 
Ell
NULL means...?
 
@cHao implementation defined.
 
@Ell 0. nullptr is now used to refer to a pointer exclusively.
 
nullptr doesn’t have to be stored as 0000….
 
9:57 PM
NULL means a null pointer constant.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes fair enough, comment deleted
 
#define NULL (1-1) // perfectly fine
 
@RadekSlupik except for that part where assigning 0 to a pointer by definition makes it null...and nearly every computer on earth uses some superset of ascii :P
 
@RadekSlupik as far as the code is concerned, null is zero, and zero is null. What the code stores internally is IB.
 
@cHao ASCII has nothing to do with pointers.
 
9:58 PM
in ascii, NUL == 0
 
@cHao 0 must be a constexpr otherwise it won’t work. The implementation is still not required to store it as 000000000000000000.
 
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@MooingDuck "...and when you die, we'll resuscitate you so you can die again...and again...and..."
 
@cHao And chars are not pointers, end of story.
 
I asked like 4 hours ago...
 
9:59 PM
@FredOverflow doesn't matter. the code sees 0 in both cases.
 
char c = 0;
int * p = c;   // type error
 

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