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12:10 AM
 
@pinepain oh dear. so the nan check is failing. have you reported a bug?
 
Connection to tcp://86.159.30.13:80 failed: timeout exceeded (30000 ms)
 
Connection to tcp://nevis.krakjoe.ninja:80 failed: timeout exceeded (30000 ms)
 
12:19 AM
/me is trying to get pthreads with php-src:master working
 
probably broken
 
y working on it
but tests still fail
Tests failed : 18 ( 19.6%) ( 19.6%)
Expected fail : 0 ( 0.0%) ( 0.0%)
Tests passed : 74 ( 80.4%) ( 80.4%)
 
@pinepain wiki.php.net/rfc/integer_semantics defines (int)NAN to be 0. That much is correct. However, wiki.php.net/rfc/zpp_fail_on_overflow ensures you can't pass a NAN to an int parameter. So, this would be a bug and should be reported on php.net, I thinkā€¦
@pinepain the issue may actually not be in PHP itself but rather musl or whatever, but if it's reported on bugs.php.net we can at least start trying to triage it. and of course, maybe it is a PHP issue and PHP does something non-portable.
 
I've had problems with musl before (not with PHP)
From memory it was with qt
 
Fatal error: Uncaught TypeError: Argument 1 passed to Test::method() must be an instance of Custom, instance of Custom given, called in /home/travis/build/Stricted/pthreads/tests/recv-overload.php on line 10 and defined in
yay
love php <
 
12:31 AM
@pinepain there really should be a specific test in php-src for this behaviour, but I don't think I ever added one. I think some other tests do catch it though
 
12:45 AM
o/
 
HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Server: nginx/1.10.0 (Ubuntu)
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2017 00:51:55 GMT
Content-Type: text/html
Last-Modified: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 14:14:53 GMT
Transfer-Encoding: chunked
Connection: keep-alive
ETag: W/"5863c8dd-264"
Content-Encoding: gzip
 
Connection to tcp://86.155.123.3:80 failed: timeout exceeded (30000 ms)
 
 
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user6061856
1:54 AM
IDK why, but people with so called 15 years of PHP knowledge can't setup a framework and I can do it just fine.
 
user6061856
Some people*
 
2:22 AM
mo mo mo
rning
@Jeeves Almost friday ?
 
@Valentincognito Is not.
 
@Jeeves How long do I have to wait to be on weeekend ?
 
@Valentincognito As long as you love me.
 
Wes
2:41 AM
mornin
 
 
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4:11 AM
morning 0/
 
morning @Akshay
 
once again oop guide?
i lost the link
 
o/
@SalOrozco looking for this?
 
moenin
 
good resources @askshay ty.
 
4:18 AM
morning @brzuchal
 
there is also a guy here that has a tutorial
i forgot his name.
 
Ahh may be! But mostly I refer to this document. @SalOrozco
 
Wes
mornin
 
morning
anyone mess around with angular or node.js
 
4:37 AM
@bwoebi Please review: Arrow Functions draft.
 
@Sean It's not closing the connection if the server closes the connection?
 
@LeviMorrison This explicit character counting in the intro bugs me a bit, but don't know how to word it though
@LeviMorrison can we please write it as fn() without extra whitespace after the keyword?
 
No.
It looks too much like a function call.
We generally put whitespace after keywords that aren't values anyway.
 
Wes
 
@LeviMorrison I call the function fn which will return a Closure with the given body? :-)
 
4:48 AM
:-)
 
Wes
@LeviMorrison can you add an example of short closures returning other short closures?
 
fn ($x) => fn ($y) => $x + $y?
Why? Do you really think that will help people like this RFC? :D
 
Wes
lol, so you didn't add it on purpose :D
i think omitting it is more worrying, but how you prefer :P
 
@LeviMorrison you may be right
being concise is nice too
 
I still prefer Rust/Ruby syntax but I just want any reasonable short syntax.
 
Wes
4:52 AM
have you guys considered other syntaxes, that are completely different from what others do... ?
 
No.
I mean yes but we don't have many symbols left.
Have to do radical stuff. Radical stuff doesn't usually pass.
 
Wes
$x {= $y {= $x + $y
$x {> $y {> $x + $y
 
I am pretty confident those wouldn't pass.
 
Wes
ok but. fn() will make function fn(){} illegal, right
 
4:57 AM
yes
 
Wes
so that is enough to identify the short closure, am i right? so why also add => ?
 
It has to in order to break [fn($x) => $y]
 
Wes
correct
but why then it isn't just fn($x) fn($y) $x + $y
 
@Wes I get what you meanā€¦ butā€¦ ā€¦ā€¦ā€¦ā€¦ā€¦ā€¦
 
fn ($x): array [$x]
How's that look to you, bub?
 
Wes
4:59 AM
nvm
it will be also typed then. hm
 
I mean I'm not a fan of it but I do like that it is possible; picking a syntax that makes it impossible will make certain people uncomfortable.
It's just not a generally good idea to intentionally break compatibility with existing features.
 
Wes
personally i would use it to avoid use() on many occasions. can i go multiline? how hard it is? can i add brackets?
fn(float $x): array{
      return [
          $x,
          $x * 2.,
          $x * 4.
      ];
}
 
I'd prefer to leave that to future RFCs.
 
Wes
are you sure? because use() is pretty annoying, people could be in favor just because of that
 
People are also in favor of use ()
 
Wes
5:09 AM
they are?
 
The explicitness in blocks is handy and eliminates magic.
 
yep.
 
Guys, when should I use rebase in git ?
 
It's hard to argue that it is helpful for single-expression closures though.
@Shafizadeh When you are working on a branch and the master target gets new commits; rebase your branch on top of master.
 
@LeviMorrison So rebase is the same as merge and the difference is rebase will be used when the master gets new commit(s) ?
 
5:13 AM
They are similar but not the same
 
Wes
what magic :B
 
Auto import of variables into a closure is magic!
 
@LeviMorrison ok thx :-)
 
anybody encounters beanstalk always loading like its in infinite loop?
 
@Shafizadeh this might clear your doubt there... stackoverflow.com/questions/804115/…
 
5:14 AM
 
i already have produce 2 tubes simple array but it keeps loading on my worker
 
@arulpragash thx pal :-)
@LeviMorrison Image not found
 
any thoughts on these beanstalk issues guys? thank you
 
Wes
@LeviMorrison what's the disadvantage?
 
@LeviMorrison Ah I see. So doing rebase doesn't cause conflict, right?
 
5:18 AM
It may or may not, similar to merge.
 
it just move the repo
@LeviMorrison I hardly think so :-)
 
Wes
as long variables aren't passed to other files (require() returning a closure) or
$evilCode = "($f) => isset($youcantseeme); ";
$youcantseeme = 1;
eval($evilCode);
there's no problem with automatically importing vars into the closures @LeviMorrison imho
 
I'm not saying it's a legitimate argument but there seem to be people of that mindset.
 
Wes
i thought everybody hated use() :B
...just makes the code uber annoying to write and read :B
 
@LeviMorrison oh, I think you are right .. (based on some researches)
 
Wes
5:36 AM
you can trust levi even without research :B in fact you can trust most of people in here
not me, obviously :B
 
@MaryDaisySanchez Your companion is here
 
6:09 AM
oi
 
 
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7:15 AM
:-( ..! Using "he" for calling a woman is offensive?! I did it by mistake and they kicked me out of the group :-(
 
posted on January 17, 2017

New Cyanide and Happiness Comic

 
hello every one
 
Wes
@Shafizadeh ahah, welcome to 21st century :B this is how it works now
 
:-(
 
I am looking for some kind of online internship or job for persons with less experience but I can't find anything like this in stock job. can you help me to find somewhere that accept persons in programming field and help them to learn new things and get experience, so they can apply for jobs in future.
 
7:27 AM
@Wes "ahah" either means "ah I see" (understanding) or "haha" (laughing) ?
 
Wes
laughing. english and other people write "haha", we italians usually start with "a"
 
Ah :-)
:D ...! In the which world laughing sounds "JA" :P
 
Wes
in spain :B and a lot of south america :B
 
1 message moved to bin
nsfw :P
 
Wes
lol
 
7:36 AM
moin
 
What's the meaning of "nsfw" ?
 
@JoeWatkins YO!
 
Wes
japanese laugh writing wwwwwww :B i don't remember why @Shafizadeh
 
@Wes :-))))
 
7:36 AM
@Shafizadeh not safe for work
 
Connection to tcp://nevis.krakjoe.ninja:80 failed: timeout exceeded (30000 ms)
 
@JoeWatkins Ah :-)
 
</noise>
 
Wes
morning folks
 
If I call a PHP script from JS with a post method, users can view the PHP source correct?
 
7:37 AM
@Shafizadeh not safe for work
 
Mornin' Wes
 
@Gordon yeah .. @JoeWatkins mentioned it ;-)
 
@DaveRandom :(
 
moin
 
@Trucy Is that german?
 
7:44 AM
@Pigman168 nope, half-assed english
German would be gutten Tag (iirc)
And french would be bonjour
Spanish buenos dias
 
"Moin" is an extremely common abbreviaton of "Guten Morgen" which is german :p
 
:o OK
I just picked it up from here, where nearly everybody says "moin"
 
Oh ok, didn't know it was used in english as well
@Trucy you don't happen to know the answer to my question 10 minutes ago?
 
The answer is: it depends. Assuming your server is correctly configured, your users won't see the code, because it would have been processed by the server before sending the result to the user
 
7:49 AM
Oh ok, thanks :)
 
A post call is just like going on the URL with a browser (kind of)
o/ @JoeWatkins
 
I see, but with the URL they could open it no?
 
Yup
 
traceroutes please 86.178.10.129 86.171.255.0
(dump in gist, not in here)
 
You mean I can't noise the channel?
 
7:52 AM
haha, nah it's just that they will disappear in a few minutes, and I may need to reference them for a while
 
Tracing
 
You need it twice or nah?
Mine would be en anglais :p
 
are "what the fuck" and "what the heck" the same?
 
The latter tries to be polite
 
7:57 AM
@Pigman168 well I'm french so it's my DUTY not to speak any other language than french
 
@Trucy I fully understand that hehe
http://pastebin.com/bJKZuaHC
http://pastebin.com/KbGWG2rz
@JoeWatkins
 
8:20 AM
@Shafizadeh One's a swear word
One's a slang word
 
allahu akbar
 
Hi guys
 
@Andrea I haven't submitted any bugs, especially to PHP as I'm not sure it's a PHP bug or PHP have to support this sort of corner cases, imo, that's what libc for.
 
morngingins all
 
8:23 AM
morning @Jimbo@PeeHaa
 
At this time I have a report from user which faces not only this NAN problem, but also changing timezone at the runtime from v8, which is highly likely a musl problem too, so I start to be a bit skeptical about musl real-world usage and I'd really appreciate if someone point me if I wrong
 
What muppet flagged that
Waste of time
 
moin
 
moin @PeeHaa
 
@JoeWatkins ?
 
8:25 AM
do you still interested in v8 in php?
 
@JoeWatkins 86.178.10.129 not loading for me, the other one is
 
@Jimbo which one is the slang?
 
you sure that IP is actually correct?
 
@Shafizadeh The non-swear-word one
 
oh it must just the port forwards
@JoeWatkins if you enable remote admin on the asus temporarily I'll have a bugger about with it
@Danack the link for that auryn build is pointed at localhost?
 
Wes
8:33 AM
mornings
 
@Wes are you a good morning bot?
 
@Jimbo what do you mean "swear"? is "fuck" a swear ?
 
Wes
not your business how many times i say hi @Pigman168
 
moin @Jeeves
 
@Trucy Yes?
 
8:36 AM
moin you elephpant
 
@Wes Is "not your business" the Italian version of "none of your business" ?
 
Wes
lol, no that's just possibly broken english
 
Ah :-)
 
is he really a bot?
 
@Wes I'm a swine. I make everything my business.
 
8:39 AM
hi @Wes
i like pandas
 
Hi panda
I like @Wes
 
Wes
pandas are very stupid but cute. just like me
 
Though often portrayed as wise in childrens movies. Sounds like someone controls the media.
 
@Wes Excuse you, pandas are not stupid because they don't code in PHP.
 
Wes
how many pandas did you ask? i bet some do
 
8:44 AM
@wes are you a bot? :p
 
i like 7 inch panda
 
Wes
sigh
 
@Jeeves Are you a bot?
 
@Akshay Step aside you filthy human.
 
@Wes yes, but it's SOME pandas.
@Wes Also are you a bot?
 
8:45 AM
Pandabot
 
Anonymous
mornin
 
i like @Wes that is hard
 
o/
 
We are literally asking a bot whether he/she/it is a bot... :P
 
Reverse psychology turing test
Or something like that
 
Wes
8:48 AM
i'm not a bot. but this is what a turing test passing bot would say
 
i see....
 
@Jeeves is Wes a bot?
 
@Trucy I don't know. Is he a bot?
 
Lets vote
 
F*** they're cooperating
 
Wes
8:49 AM
are you actually thinking i'm a bot or are you just trying to piss me off. it's not working, though :B
 
Neither
 
Is @Wes a bot? You decide! Star this message for yes, leave the room for no!
12
 
you want to see my boobs @wes
 
starred
 
woah...
 
8:51 AM
@JessicaThompson don't be an asshat. Next time it will be 5 minutes.
 
Starred
 
Wes
@JessicaThompson what's going on? disease spreading through tcp/ip?
 
@JessicaThompson lol...
 
Herpes over TCP/IP
 
morning
 
8:53 AM
They're working together... it's a network of good-morning pandas
 
Wes
assert($pigman === $jessica);
 
@Andrea filled a bug report - bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=73954
 
ugh I really wish you could edit tweets
 
there is a whole team of pandas behind this...
 
That erroneous possessive apostrophe is sitting there, laughing at me.
 
8:56 AM
zz
 

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