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9:33 AM
@Gavin, you thought you could hide it from us, ey? You would have gotten away with it if it weren't for us meddling kids. ucfagls.wordpress.com/2012/04/23/…
 
@RomanLuštrik Not trying to hide, well not too hard anyway ;-)
I'm a very busy bee at the moment... though just enough time to fend off @DWin from taking my second place in the all time top R Answers league :-)
 
Ah, Clash of the Titans.
What kind of a bee? Apis mellifera carnica? :)
Beeologists claim that's one hell of a group of bees, very hard working.
 
 
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BDM
12:37 PM
@GavinSimpson thank you, any ideas on how that might be fixed that is not reducing the model?
 
@BDM you could try increasing/decreasing the tolerances on the fitting routine etc. Depends what function you are using to do the fits?
 
 
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3:24 PM
Could someone running 2.15.0 confirm what the output is for sprintf('%05s',as.character(1:5)) ?
In 2.14.2 I get [1] "00001" "00002" "00003" "00004" "00005"
 
@joran R> sprintf('%05s',as.character(1:5))
[1] " 1" " 2" " 3" " 4" " 5"
 
Huh.
The only vaguely relevant note in the changes for 2.15.0 I can find is this: "sprintf() was not re-entrant, which potentially caused problems if an as.character() method called it."
 
Well that seems clear ;)
 
No kidding!
 
@joran that happened in 2.10.1 patched, not 2.15.0.
 
3:35 PM
Uh oh.
 
@csgillespie I also get this in 2.15.0 and 2.14.1 on 32-bit WinXP.
 
So am I doing something wrong, or was there a temporary bug in 2.14.2 OS X?
 
@joran <shrugs> maybe ask on R-SIG-Mac?
 
It's not critical, just came in a question just now. But now it's going to bother me until I know what's going on...
 
3:48 PM
> sprintf('%05s',as.character(1:5))
[1] "    1" "    2" "    3" "    4" "    5"
 
Wait, am I to believe that we have 3 different behaviors now? Pad with one space, pad with 4 spaces and pad with 4 0's?
 
@joran my two were "pad with 4 spaces"
 
Phew. That's a relief.
 
@joran Hold on, I just ran it again and got something different...
Now it's padded with kittens.
2
 
So ... isn't it supposed to be padded with "0"'s???? That's the way I read the help page.
So I'm thinking this should go to r-devel as an infelicity report.
Well. That was from memory, and now I see that it is for "numbers" (an ambiguous construction in R) and not necessarily 'factors' or 'character' vectors.
 
4:07 PM
@DWin I'm not sure. "Conversion by as.character is used for non-character arguments with s..." and ... what you just said.
 
@DWin Exactly, the 'For numbers' bit was what was confusing me as well.
 
So factor and numeric classes should first get run through as.character. That does not seem to happen if you use fmt="%013i" with a factor. You get padding alright, but the result is the numeric version of the factor.
 
4:22 PM
@joran I get " 1" " 2" " 3" " 4" " 5".
That's 2.15.0 on W7 (64 bit).
 
Hello @DWin - it's nice to see you here.
i'm turning into a computer geek. In one week I replaced a hard disk on my laptop, as well as upgraded the RAM chips on a second. Not good.
 
@Andrie Not sure you're a "computer geek" if your computer geekery is involuntary. :)
 
Clearly I need to spend more time planting potatoes on my allotment vegetable garden.
 
I already planted my tatoes, beans, peas and an assortment of spices.
 
@JoshuaUlrich Thank you. That's a relief!
 
4:36 PM
@joran [1] " 1" " 2" " 3" " 4" " 5" (2.15.0 on Windows 7, 64-bit) (same as Roman)
 
5:17 PM
yay upgrade's working
first new personal computer in 7 years
things have gotten a bit faster in the interim
 
:) What did you buy?
 
i7 920 with 12GB DDR3
modest by today's standards
but benchmarks something like 10x faster than my old chip (one of the first Athlon X2's)
 
A laptop?
I have i7 720 I think.
 
desktop
just plunked in a new motherboard
most painless upgrade I've ever done
oh gosh
can't believe I just said that
I'm in trouble now...tempted the gremlins
 
I used to be very skimpy when it came to a mobo, which turned out to be not such a good idea. I have a prepacked laptop now so I'm limited in that regard.
 
6:12 PM
I always splurge on the mobo
good mobo = stability
 
That's the second word I had to google today. Splurge and plunked. :)
 
ha
good slang all
 
I have yet to pick up computer assembly lingo. :)
 
they're more generic jargon
wouldn't say they're specific to computer putting-togethering
 
I read that plunking is when you hit a string on a guitar. I'm familiar with "picking", although that has a submeaning, e.g. not strumming.
 
6:30 PM
@RomanLuštrik I'd consider that a secondary meaning for "plunk"; "To throw or place heavily or abruptly" is probably more common.
 
Alright, noted. When you think you have the hang of things... :)
 
@joran agreed
 
 
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8:15 PM
Quick follow-up, just checked on my home mac running 2.15.0 and I still get [1] "00001" "00002" "00003" "00004" "00005" from sprintf.
Looks like a platform dependent issue; I guess I'll follow @JoshuaUlrich's advice and post something to r-sig-mac
 
8:56 PM
Anyone in here running 32-bit R in something other than Windows?
 
@JoshuaUlrich This morning I was
but post-upgrade it's 64-bit all the way
 
Thanks, but I need to test something on 32-bit systems.
 
 
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11:08 PM
@JoshuaUlrich I figured as much. Thus my (likely under-communicated) woe and sense of irony.
 

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