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12:50 PM
My project's compilation speed hit an all-time low ever since I added a generated piece of code containing a large array.
Incremental compilation would do me some real good here.
 
Yeah, once that is usable it will be awesome!
 
1:01 PM
@E_net4 in the Here And Now, you can artificially split your code up into sub crates
which are compiled separately
also, you say generated piece of code? Via build.rs?
> Normally build scripts are re-run if any file inside the crate root changes, but this can be used to scope changes to just a small set of files.
> rerun-if-changed is a path to a file or directory which indicates that the build script should be re-run if it changes
 
@Shepmaster Nope. It's too expensive to be run at build.rs
 
@E_net4 ok doke
 
That could change in the future, sure. But right now I'm still thinking about APIs 'n' stuff.
 
 
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3:22 PM
Yay, I'm a helpful-aggressive person. :>
 
It did read a bit harsh :P
 
I couldn't think of a better way to phrase it. :|
 
"Which part seems to confuse you?" Might have been one way to put it :? But yours was fine haha, made me chuckle
 
@Neikos That would be a nice tip for my next helpful-aggressive comments. :D
Nevertheless, don't we have an SO question about generic type parameter determination? It's not a trivial resource to look for in the book.
 
3:42 PM
@E_net4 it's easy for us to do (and I indeed do the same)
 
@Shepmaster Come again?
 
If you feel something might be aggressive, you can always ask for wording help in here
@E_net4 To be overly harsh
 
Oh. For a moment I thought you were talking about my other chat line.
You fixed it now. :P
 
yeah, i didn't link at all ^_^
 
x)
 
3:44 PM
@E_net4 There's a bunch of questions with "unable to infer enough type information"...
One thing that can help but may be difficult is to apologize.
> Look that I didn't mean to be aggressive, but I was indeed expecting your own interpretation of the error message in your question.
For example, starting a sentence with "Look" seems to indicate a defensive posture
> Sorry, I didn't mean to be aggressive! I was trying to encourage you to add your own interpretation of the error message to your question.
> why you didn't understand it.
That can also be interpreted as more attacking than intended.
Sometimes the passive voice can help here
> I was legitimately curious which part of the error message was unclear.
Note that the emphasis is placed on the error message being bad, not the human being unable to understand.
 
Dayum. I'm a horrible person. :s
 
@E_net4 Haha, not yet! I think I have 4 or 5 people who have directly and explicitly told me that they are leaving Stack Overflow because of me.
Anyway, having the self-awareness to even worry about it is a great skill.
 
The amusing part of it all is that a down-vote or a close-vote would probably "hurt" less, isn't it?
At least there's no way to be targeted this way.
Heh, I've once been accused of being condescending from trying to explain the OP that the question had clear issues. Later on the question was just closed by other people. The way of caring is a tricky and spiky one, I guess.
 
@E_net4 Yes, that's a rough aspect of SO. Have you received retaliatory downvotes from this?
 
@Shepmaster Now that you mention, I had one other case of that. But my conscience is clean on that one.
 
3:56 PM
Many times, people either downvote or comment. Downvoting and commenting often leads misguided users to retaliate.
and commenting on a question other people downvoted on can make people think it was you that downvoted
 
Yep, that indeed happens.
I even got myself a copy-pasta.
 
5:02 PM
@E_net4 heh, same
I will curse you and your entire family up and down four generations while helping you :P
 
Rust VS Red ... The Fight of the Century
 
@набиячлэвэли "This is a comment to the question, not an answer."
But that one's impressive.
 
5:21 PM
@Dsafds You mean this one? I had never heard of it.
Also, it doesn't seem like a fair match.
Does that language look like VBScript trying to be a Lisp-y D on drugs, or it's just me?
 
> Both statically and JIT-compiled to native code
> Bridging to the JVM
huh
 
A nice catch, eh?
 
> Mac OS X red-061 0 MB
heh
that's not how math works
 
It's the best of both worlds! "Sure, you can compile it to the native target machine. But we also let you put your program on top of an unnecessary and burdening virtual machine."
> (*) For Linux 64-bit distros, you need to install 32-bit supporting libraries.
Well, F that. :D
 
5:38 PM
@E_net4 Reeks of fucking Java to me
 
@набиячлэвэли Why is that?
 
"Java is not installed"
Clearly is, although the (correct) 64-bit version
"You will need a 32-bit edition of Java to run this program"
Fuck you, too, Oracle
I bet Sun wouldn't do this kind of shit
 
Ain't that an overreaction? It seems to be a limitation of the current Red toolset.
 
Next thing you'll tell me is people are gonna bundle ~200MB VM distros with 2MB programs
 
People are gonna bund- nope.
 
5:42 PM
Thing is, that's the go-to in Javaworld
 
@набиячлэвэли The JRE is an "install once" software. You wouldn't bundle it.
 
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
Yeah no
Well, I wouldn't
 
If your profile picture is meant to be ironic, maybe you should make that clearer. :P
 
xcus me strimmer it's JetBeans
I made it meself
 
Is that a spinach?
 
6:30 PM
@E_net4 Are you?
 
6:53 PM
@набиячлэвэли I ain't.
 
A place I used to work did indeed bundle the JRE with our software
Was too risky to assume that the end computer had the correct version and bitness
 
@Shepmaster Everyone does that :v
@Shepmaster SEE, @E_net4?
 
7:27 PM
Meh. :P
 
7:57 PM
@E_net4 Yep!
@набиячлэвэли I hate Java. But Red is preety good
I Hate java.. but java is really popular these days
 
"these days"
 
8:18 PM
@Shepmaster Anyone know makefile?
Cause i got trouble :-(
 
If only there were a website dedicated to asking questions and getting answers...
 
@Shepmaster their answer dont work.
 
8:37 PM
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Q: Assignments under label

amanuel2I'm trying to assign a variable inside a label , by adding to the variable like so: all: i686-elf-gcc $(GCCPARAMS) -o itoa.o -c itoa.c -I ../../../ -ffreestanding $(eval LIBC_OBJECTS += stdio/itoa/itoa.o) This doesn't seem to work as it adds nothing to the variable what so ever when i...

 
9:22 PM
Honestly surprised unique() is not in libstd
array_tool to the rescue
 
 
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11:42 PM
I just posted an answer to the aggressively helped chap. That should hopefully give it a greater reason to exist without it being a duplicate.
The question, I mean, not the chap.
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