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12:00 PM
I keep telling him to stay away from frontend stuff and what does he do? He creates libui bindings...
!!wiki masochism
 
Masochism is the practice of seeking pain because it is pleasurable, named for Leopold von Sacher-Masoch. It may also refer to: == Psychology == Masochism, one component of sadomasochism, giving or receiving pleasure from the receipt or infliction of pain or humiliation Masochism, an aspect of BDSM, consensual adult sadomasochistic activity Sexual masochism disorder, a medical condition in which experiencing pain or humiliation is required for sexual arousal Masochistic personality disorder, another name for self-defeating personality disorder, proposed in 1987 but never accepted into the DSM ...
 
anyone tell how to get out of .sh telnet in php
 
ctrl+c / ctrl+x?
 
Wes
color harmonies are all bullshit @PeeHaa math can't cover taste
 
{
sleep 1
echo "helo aorank.com\r"
sleep 0.5
echo "mail from:me@aorank.com\r"
sleep 0.5
echo "rcpt to:abc@gmail.com\r"

} | telnet gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com 25
 
this is shell scrip
 
@Wes It's not entirely bullshit though. It mostly prevents clashing colors by automated means
 
i want to get output in php
 
Imo it's not so much about taste as it is about "fuck that's downright ugly"
@Gordon I have been smoking for years. Everything smells and tastes the same for me :P
 
@PeeHaa true then
 
12:12 PM
;-)
@Ekin does this make sense to you too?
 
actually it does, yeah, a lot, go for it :-)
 
Dude. It might as well be binary crap you just shared @bwoebi :P
@Ekin \o/
 
@PeeHaa I was confused for a moment, all fine :-P
 
Good because you are on your own with that stuff :P
 
evenin all
 
12:20 PM
yo linus
 
yo PeeHaa
 
Wes
i never believed in these things @PeeHaa firstly because i don't like the output... that is, if there is some math to calculate color taste, that is not it, it's either too simple or wrong. plus it's heartbreaking, because it moves to the background the instinct, the talent, the insightfulness, the passion, the joy that an artist is required to have when doing its magic
 
The thing you forget is that many people don't have the instinct, the talent, the insightfulness, the passion, the joy that an artist is required to have when doing its magic
I for one was really happy to find out something like kuler
I compare it a bit with bootstrap.
Yes people who know what they are doing think it is shit, but it enables people like me to make shiny turds instead of regular turds
 
any opencart developer is there??
 
Wes
it's bullshit, can you tell which existing stuff look bad and which look good? if yes, for sure you can do your own
 
12:26 PM
Oh sure I can tell you exactly what I like and not like. That I am good at
But sitting down and making something that looks good, not so much
 
Wes
so pick some colors and see if you like them :B if not, try again
 
I am fairly certain I am just not wired for that stuff
 
Wes
you are just lazy i think :D
 
I won't argue that :P
 
Wes
i mean, there's people that clearly look at things differently, but if your opinion is the same of the majority of people you for sure can reverse engineer your taste to produce likable stuff yourself
 
12:31 PM
Reverse engineer in this case is copy/paste as is. The moment I start "tweaking" it myself it will go bad fast
 
is there a nice contributing.md template anyone knows that I can use?
I've never prepared such a thing
 
Wes
1- add code
2- test code
3- ???
4- profit
 
Didn't really look at it, but this has some examples github.com/blog/1184-contributing-guidelines
 
Wes
using js makes me feel i'm in the stone age
 
I mostly just write some stuff about the code style used in the project, how to PR, how to report issues, depending on whether you want to make it test for PRs mandatory
 
Wes
12:35 PM
like i'm writing a .BAT file or something
can't get used to it
 
You are writing backwardsjs what do you expect? :P
 
yeah specially for the coding style it'd be nice
alright thanks
 
Wes
@PeeHaa you mean, i'm not using babel?
 
I mean you are writing in js ;-)
 
Wes
:P
because, it's not that es6 is much better
 
12:37 PM
Something something turd something polish something
:D
 
lol
 
user6752695
How to add submenu for brandmenu in opencart? I added brand in main menu in my opencart store but i need to add submenu while hover on brand menu...i want to add it just like category menu ..
 
Wes
i.imgur.com/zsfp84y.jpg totally not an automated message lol
"week not qeek"
 
12:53 PM
lol nice one
At least they put some thought in it
 
lol I remember that
 
Wes
@Ekin i see you follow the guy too, did you get that message?
 
yes the same :D
 
@Wes that's not how a teenager writes
 
Wes
i've unfollowed it because of the pathetic attempt
 
12:54 PM
not in this century
 
Wes
twitter is just bots
 
I am literally avoiding diving into following tab
just to not waste time
 
@Wes Hi James I would love to make use of your lovely service and I thiknk you are cool!
hate* not love
fucking spammy* and not lovely
 
Wes
:B
 
a cunt* and not cool
 
12:55 PM
lol
 
OOPS!
:P
 
autocorrect ?
 
nah that's how the guy ends the last sentence
 
I was referring to @PeeHaa's texts
 
Wes
 
1:00 PM
ugh it's still early for a beer but I'm out of coffee and all
 
Wes
best <option selected> ever
 
@tereško err yeah realized that right after I said it
 
@Wes the 20 residents agree with you
 
Wes
btw, do you know that you get paid to live in alaska? basically you go there and they pay you to stay, something like 1500$ each month
i know what i'll do when i will finish failing at everything
 
Do you always get that even when you have other sources of income?
 
Wes
1:09 PM
yes
 
brb buying a coat
 
huh if that's true I might keep this in mind :P
seriously
 
Wes
i'm serious too. alaska is beautiful
 
ace would be even happier than me
oh lol, I could literally turn into a husky/wolf version of cat-loving-woman stereotype
 
hehehe
That would be pretty fucking badass
 
Get one of these bad boys
 
Wes
it's about 1000$/year :( not what i read before
 
@Wes ...
 
damn that's a beautiful one
 
Wes
what wolves are left in got?
 
1:15 PM
@Wes afaik most of them are gone
Don't wanna do spoilers, but I'm pretty sure the last one died in the last episode or the one before that
The one with hodor
 
Wes
only 2 left, arya's and jon's
 
Wolves dying in GoT? - Luckily I didnt watch it :(
 
Yeah I hate it too when dogs die
Cats I don't care about :P
 
+1
 
ghost is such an astonishing wolf
 
1:18 PM
Unless it's a proper cat like a panther or something nice like that
 
Dogs are just... looking so friendly and cool :|
 
@Ekin It really is
 
@PeeHaa this
 
Ekin hahaha
 
hahahah that's so awesome
 
1:20 PM
all it needs is love ♫ ♬ ♪ ♫ ♬ ♪ :D
 
I really need a dog again!
Or some other cool animal like a penguin
 
ahaha lol
 
Wes
going to watch some tv and hopefully have some hours sleep
lata
 
see ya Wes
 
user1804599
1:28 PM
hola
 
yo
 
user1804599
Writing a PHP code generator again. :D
 
:P
 
user1804599
I'm quite dissatisfied with Hack.
 
Why?
 
1:32 PM
why would you need to generate php code?
 
user1804599
@PeeHaa When you make a syntax error you get a horrendous list of type errors; the Hack-to-PHP conversion tool can't cope well with lambdas (it crashes), and translates "$x" to $x instead of to "$x" (so it doesn't convert to string), among other bugs; it opens so many files to watch that it hits ulimit; and it doesn't support higher-kinded types.
 
So it's more the conversion you dislike?
 
user1804599
So now I'm writing a tool that generates PHP from the dependently typed lambda calculus, solving all these problems :P. And introducing many new ones :D.
 
hehe
 
1:50 PM
@rightfold Have you considered a lispy language?
They're quite good at making you write a language to solve the problem
 
2:01 PM
huh there's even another PR from someone else @PeeHaa
 
@DaveRandom And you are sure that there was no previous exception thrown into loop?
 
Anonymous
@PeeHaa mornin, seems to be working fine. Good for PR?
 
I'm not sure having a phpunit.phar in repo is good
why exactly would one need that?
 
Caturday!
@Ekin the phpunit.phar shouldnt be there
 
yeah it seems like a very unnecessary 3MB in
 
2:14 PM
it is, its a dev dependency probably
 
yeah it's already in require-dev
I mean phpunit
 
yea
away with it
 
so this is the very first PR I need to reject :P
 
@PeeHaa I bravely gave up
 
@Ekin It's up to you in the end =) but yea
 
2:18 PM
@Ekin hmmm yeah and an odd one
 
yeah indeed
 
@JayIsTooCommon Nice! PR if you are happy with it. Going to get food 'n beer now so will check later
@JoeWatkins Do you still want it?
brb foodnbeer
 
I do, and will use it if it's not a million lines of code ... if it is a million lines of code, then it will just be interesting to see how it's done, even if I can't use it where I wanted too
 
I will see how bored I am tomorrow. Will let you know
 
cool, ta
 
2:23 PM
in JavaScript - Stop asking if websites are down., 29 mins ago, by Learn How To Be Transparent
@tereško how can you farm rep like that? is there any resources on farming SO rep?
 
Anonymous
@PeeHaa okie doke :) enjoy
 
@Levi do you know the command for generating a docbook skeleton from a php extension ?
the php manual is the worst place to try to get stuff done ...
 
@bwoebi how do you mean?
 
@DaveRandom well, I see your onError() just logs, but doesn't stop the loop
 
2:39 PM
moment, I will find the log
 
If there was an exception during Artax processing which wasn't caught, the promise might also be unresolved because of that
And somewhat /srv/www/Jeeves/data/log.txt does not exist?
 
@bwoebi no it uses the stdout logger
 
oh…what?
 
I'm just finding the right journalctl command, hang on
 
jeeves 8544 0.0 1.6 533644 129676 ? tNsl Oct20 2:01 /usr/bin/php -d error_reporting=0 -d display_errors=1 /srv/www/Jeeves/cli/run.php >> /srv/www/Jeeves/data/log.txt 2>&1
 
2:40 PM
Yeh I don't get that either
 
^ it's piping stdout to there (E_CONFUSED)
 
/cc @PeeHaa
but regardless, output does end up in the syslogs
 
ok
 
Oh my gawd! Damn you wordpress!
"Installation failed: Could not create directory."
It just does not go away.. chown, chmod, edited wp-config, installed vsftpd.conf...
I am gonna go bald by the end of the week from tearing my hair out..
 
@DaveRandom Where exactly? /var/log/syslog?
 
2:42 PM
journalctl -u jeeves -b --since "2016-10-21 03:11:45" --utc
run that
that gives you the event that caused the blockage
 
@Schoening even as I sometimes hate wordpress, what you mentioned does not sound like wp issue
 
Note that you get "Post attempt 1" and then nothing
 
@DaveRandom github.com/Room-11/Jeeves/blob/… << fwrite(STDERR)
 
@bwoebi it should never go to onError() because it's wrapped in a catch (\Throwable) (right?)
 
It's probably my local vagrantbox that is badly configured yeah.. I did manage to get rid of the ftp request when installing a theme.. Hopefully I can find some way to solve this
 
2:44 PM
@DaveRandom yeah… but only when you're inside some coroutine
but if there's something directly stemming from onReadable() or such, no
 
oh right OK
So it could just be that STDERR output has been trashed?
 
I'm asking you that?
 
:-P
Well I got no idea how the output is working in the first place
/me blames @PeeHaa
@PeeHaa
@PeeHaa @PeeHaa @PeeHaa @PeeHaa @PeeHaa
@PeeHaa
 
@DaveRandom At least I figured that everything is normal except that there is one unresolved Deferred with refcount=1 which is being yielded (i.e. there is nothing else referencing it anymore)
 
@PeeHaa @PeeHaa @PeeHaa
@bwoebi presumably this one from the action that's blocking it?
Is there any way to figure that out? Where it originated?
Also @bwoebi, let's say that something did filter down to onError(), what would be the appropriate way to handle that?
i.e. should we treat it as a fatal error and exit() or... what?
 
2:52 PM
@DaveRandom you do not need to exit, you could just re-initialize Jeeves there
 
@bwoebi Right, but it was non-fatal anyway - as evidenced by the fact that it continued to work in every other room, the websocket continued to work (you can see this in the logs) etc etc, seems like there should be some way to feed that error back up the chain?
 
@DaveRandom yeah, that's a shortcoming in amp v1
 
what sort of thing might happen that would cause this? Because presumably if the artax promise had failed then the catch(\Throwable) would get it?
Also that suggest that v2 would not have this issue (?)
 
@DaveRandom I honestly don't know what should have caused it here
 
@Jimbo yeah, lol :D It was on a middleware question
 
2:57 PM
@DaveRandom at least not if it comes due to an exception from within when() or watch()
 
@Gordon sorry, too late for that now :( Please do DM/twitter next time - I rarely ever load chat.stackoverflow.net when not at home
 
@bwoebi let me see if I can figure out whether stderr output makes it into the logs
If it does then that's not what happened anyway
 
Anonymous
yo Chris
 
temporary @15 it is
 
Hii.. Urgent help needed
my code is not working
I've to submit assignemt next hour
here is link to my question:
help will highly be appreciated
1
Q: Converting log file to CSV

Ahsan AliiI have to convert a (Squid Web Proxy Server) log file to CSV file, so that it can be loaded into powerpivot for analysis of queries. So how should I start, any help would strongly be appreciated. I've to use C# language for this task, log looks like the following: Format: Timestamp Elapsed Clien...

 
3:02 PM
@bwoebi journalctl -u jeeves -b --since "2016-10-19 20:59:59" --utc
The onError() output would be in the log
 
Anonymous
@AhsanAlii You said 'my code is not working' I don't see any code?
 
@JayIsTooCommon what up
 
Anonymous
Got a weird exception in Jives
 
@DaveRandom seems unrelated
 
Anonymous
well not weird, I just have no idea how I managed it :D
 
Anonymous
3:03 PM
Room11\Jeeves\Chat\Client\MessagePostFailureException: Action no longer valid at point of execution in /var/www/html/Jeeves/src/Chat/Client/ActionExecutor.php:42
 
@bwoebi it is, but the point is that onError() output does end up in the log, and we didn't get any in this case
@JayIsTooCommon You are trying to post a duplicate message, probably
 
Anonymous
ah, that would make sense
 
There's a guard against it because SE wouldn't accept it anyway
Actually we should probably put a time limit on that
 
Help plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
 
Anonymous
ok cool, i was posting messages in a loop so sounds about right - related github.com/Room-11/Jeeves/pull/106/files
 
3:07 PM
@AhsanAlii You already have a proper answer to your question
 
@AhsanAlii completely unrelated to PHP, so, please, fuck off to c# room
 
there is no in c#
so that's why posted here
 
@DaveRandom then wtf. I just cannot find an execution path in artax where no exception is thrown and $cycle gets lost without the deferred being resolved first
 
user1804599
in Lounge<C++>, Jan 30 '15 at 2:30, by Borgleader
"Hi I have a question about my retirement fund"
"Sir this is a convenience store..."
"I know but it's the only thing open at this hour"
 
is it ok to send multiple data into one cell
like i have a multiselection input
in a form
 
3:12 PM
no
 
and i send all the selected options into one cell
 
user1804599
What is a cell?
 
mysql table cell
@littlepootis then any idea
like i have a mailing system and i select 5 users to send message to
so how to manage it
 
use a table
 
@bwoebi Whatever it is, it has to be something that is very rarely hit. Like something with a one in a million chance. Jeeves was running for 11 days recently without seeing this issue crop up, and when we used to run into this problem with the old mutex thing (which seems like it may be the same issue?) at one point it was running for 3 weeks before we hit it.
 
3:14 PM
@DaveRandom My issue is that all information which would have been relevant has vanished due to there not even being a RequestCycle anymore
 
@littlepootis how
 
@DaveRandom If you want to debug that, add a destructor to request cycle which dumps the backtrace
 
@bwoebi just a var_dump(debug_backtrace()) would do?
 
@DaveRandom dumps far too much. use debug_print_backtrace(DEBUG_BACKTRACE_IGNORE_ARGS);
 
k, will fork and point jeeves at the fork
 
3:18 PM
@DaveRandom or maybe just print (string) new Exception; … that's the best backtrace I know :-P
 
@bwoebi Don't you want the values of the properties?
 
@DaveRandom I very most likely can backtrack how this happens when I know where this happens
 
Zend VM be like: "The type of op1 is IS_UNUSED." Really? So any value will do since it's unused.. "Naaahhhhhh.. Actually it's the opline you want to jump to!" o.O
 
@bwoebi OK cool, but since the dtor is called by the engine will that actually tell you that?
 
@DaveRandom it tells me the location where refcount drops to 0
 
3:29 PM
OK cool
 
and it isn't a part of a cycle (or at least shouldn't) … thus that'll be quite precise.
 
hmmmm 7 pings. That usually means I screwed something up
 
@PeeHaa No you didn't.
 
oh
:)
 
@DaveRandom just thought you screwed up :-P @PeeHaa
 
3:32 PM
Same thing :P
Any luck and a TLDR for the jeeves issue @bwoebi?
 
/usr/bin/php -d error_reporting=0 -d display_errors=1 /srv/www/Jeeves/cli/run.php >> /srv/www/Jeeves/data/log.txt 2>&1
 
@PeeHaa TL;DR: insufficient information
 
mind explaining the rationale behind that command?
 
It does nothing afaik
 
@PeeHaa err, how does this look?
 
3:34 PM
@DaveRandom It used to log, but you killed that in one of the refactorings. It's a leftover right now
 
Well yeh but >> /srv/www/Jeeves/data/log.txt 2>&1 suggests the output should be going to that file and it isn't
also error_reporting=0??
 
That's entirely my fault and I cannot blame you for that sadly
 
@DaveRandom error messages just clutter the logs
 
@bwoebi Although true it would be nice to have them at least somewhere :)
 
hehe
 
3:38 PM
@Ekin Looks good
 
@bwoebi yeh because Jeeves is totally production-ready :-P
 
with this editorconfig I think
 
@DaveRandom right!!!!
 
god damn it does anyone understand composer at all?
 
@DaveRandom :P
@DaveRandom it does anyone?
;-)
@Ekin yes that looks sane
BTW @DaveRandom @bwoebi can we restart yet?
 
3:41 PM
not yet but I'm arguing with composer to try and let that happen
 
hehe k
Drop some british insults
That always helps
 
@PeeHaa yes, ditch that instance, it won't give anything useful anymore
 
Once you are done arguing can you also pull @JayIsTooCommon githbu change please? @Danack
 
OK @bwoebi github.com/Room-11/artax/commit/… works for you?
 
3:51 PM
yeh
 
k cool
 
Do exceptions have a tostring by default?
TIL
 
@PeeHaa yes :-(
 
codinininings
 

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