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7:00 PM
Its like sorting single grains of sand into a beautiful sandcastle
 
It takes so long to write code in assembly
 
user1228
Here's a lovely "what's the name of this thing" question with a dollop of product recommendation thrown in. stackoverflow.com/questions/37616869/…
 
user1228
Answered by a 24k user who thinks that this doesn't apply anymore blog.stackoverflow.com/2012/02/lets-play-the-guessing-game because it's old
 
The avatar of that user looks so confused and sad
I want to hug him :(
 
user1228
Hug him with close votes, pls. If you agree, I mean.
 
user1228
7:03 PM
Ciao!
 
JAL
hey will!
 
@Will hey, look! another staircase!
 
no idea @Yam
 
@Yam no idea what that is or does
@Yam die
 
Yam
@Magisch You need to be a room owner, moderator, or Sam to kill me.
 
7:07 PM
:(
 
@JAL Oh, that would be 'Ruby'
 
@MartinJames Nice adaptation
 
JAL
hahahaha
 
@Tunaki ^ I made a thing to make it harder for me to do that
 
@TylerH Dev tools OP
 
@JAL I call my car 'Ruby'. It's a 1.4L diesel Fiesta.
 
@Undo Nice!
Is this a user-script that all mods use?
 
@MartinJames Looks cool but doesn't scale well?
 
7:30 PM
@TylerH Economical but slower than an arthritic sloth hauling a baggage trolley.
 
@Tunaki Yeah, posted in the appropriate venues.
 
@TylerH I wonder if there are sites that really try this
 
@Magisch There are
I have encountered many
 
but why
It never works
 
7:32 PM
to protect their content
it works against non-devs
 
I have ran across them
 
if they can't right click or can't save the image normally then that's like 80-90% of traffic easily
 
Someone will just get pissed off at it and rehost it somewhere else
 
@TylerH Agree
 
The toughest thing for me is when they use those other strings
 
7:33 PM
The way you say that
 
like XML or something
 
sounds like devs have some kind of super power
 
I forget what it's called
@Magisch Well they do, really
 
"I am dev man! I have the super power of slightly higher common sense!"
 
you ever seen the look on someone's face when you go fix their computer?
 
7:34 PM
:)
 
They think you're a genius
 
"How did you to that?" "Dude, the GUI option is labeled and right there!" "Yeah but how did you do that?"
 
all you did was give them local admin rights or install adblock or something simple
bonus points if you did it via CLI
 
I was actually filling in for our sysadmin the other day
And a guy was having real problems getting his pc to work properly
And when I entered his office and was like "Yeah I'm from IT, im here for your PC..." his eyes lit up like a child
 
lol
seriously, these folks are so dependent upon their computers these days but totally unable to fix simple things
it's a huge stressor
 
7:37 PM
When the magic box that enables everything you get paid for suddenly ceases that can cause some stress, eh
 
yeap
 
the guy's network card was defect btw
So I had to pack his PC and bring it into the IT office
 
I got called into an office yesterday because a person could not access a system. I told them it used there X credentials. They go I have tried that doesn't work. I have them do it while I'm there and it works. You would think they would make sure they typed the password right.
 
Speaking of fixing computers, one of ours spontaneously updated to Windows 10, so now I have to figure out how to undo that...
 
So this guy comes with me
Apparently he's been working there for a year but never seen IT from the inside
 
7:39 PM
@NobodyNada it's not spontaneous, it's a relabeled Windows update marked as critical
 
@NathanOliver lol, yeah happened to me couple of times also :)
 
you thought you were safe blacklisting the 303##### ones
 
We have a big office with a door shield labeled "EDV - Anklopfen vor dem Eintritt"
 
they relabeled one as 282 or 292 or something older and pushed it out as critical
And it is even worse; instead of just "prepping" your computer for W10, it will download the whole damn thing and install it after like three weeks
 
Good afternoon, folks
 
7:40 PM
Hiya o/
 
And the guy was like "Can I go in there?"
 
@TylerH Just don't use Windows - problem avoided :) (or just VM it if you have no other choice)
 
Like IT is some kind of magical kingdom where only devs can dwell
 
I don't use windows; my mom does
 
7:41 PM
@Magisch I would say the same thing since I don't speak German
 
Its a carefully fostered culture
 
I ran across a couple of near duplicates from the suggested edits...stackoverflow.com/questions/3871025/… and stackoverflow.com/questions/14930261/…
 
well what does "EDV - Anklopfen vor dem Eintritt" mean?
 
Nobody messes with IT at my workplace
 
@Magisch They just don't want to catch a virus ;)
 
7:41 PM
@tuna "IT - Knock before entering"
In practice it means IT is off limits for anyone
 
A couple of comments though: the earlier question is much worse than the newer version, and both had answers with the same broken link (which has now been edited away)
 
Bah I'd just burst in there and scream at everyone "it doesn't work!!!"
 
Requests are sent via email
 
@gariepy what is near duplicates in there?
 
@Tunaki I'd burst in and say "the network is down! The system has a virus!"
EL ES MUERTO
 
7:42 PM
lol
 
wait, except I'd say it in German
 
@Tunaki Meh - wave a six-pack and pizza coupon at them and you get priority.
 
The first time I've witnessed someone actually knock was on our full network outage
 
It would sound much more serious in German.
 
@Tunaki: They both are asking about getting LBA for a file
 
7:43 PM
@Tunaki by simple virtue of being in German, of course
 
Someone was timidly knocking at the door "I ... im sorry to knock but our network doesn't work anymore"
 
@gariepy No idea. Any C peeps here?
 
but marking the new one as a duplicate of the old seems wrong because the new one is better written (still not great), and has better answers.
 
And the IT Head guy just hollers "Hey <myname>, get your **** **** *** and move"
 
@gariepy well if you think they're dupes, the date doesn't matter: the target should be the one with the best answers
 
Hey o/
 
@Tunaki: ok, that's helpful, because I wasn't sure if that was common practice
 
@gariepy Yeah, let me find you the Meta post... searching....
 
@Tunaki Hey
 
@Magisch I'm imaging a very wizard-of-oz vibe
 
Its amazing at work
 
@hubot why are you posting this here
 
I command great respect from every other person there despite being a first year apprentice
 
What are you think about post linked above?
 
@Tunaki: oh, so the other problem is the newer (better) question has no upvoted or accepted answers, and the older one does. However, the "accepted" answer on the old question is garbage, because it was based on a link that is now broken.
 
7:47 PM
@hubot This is not the place to discuss Physics.SE questions, please stop spamming them here.
 
It's not my post
 
Like the head of the lab going to one of his supervisers "You can't order him to do that, he is IT."
 
This is a chatroom for Stack Overflow site/community moderation efforts
 
@gariepy Erf =/. Well, still, best to close as duplicate of the one having the best answers.
It redirects the traffic to the "right" answer
 
What's room is for Physics SE moderations?
 
7:48 PM
@Tunaki: right, but it won't let me flag for a duplicate of a question with no upvoted or accepted answers
 
Its like when you're in IT you suddenly get an untouchable aura
 
@hubot try one on the physics.stackexchange.com site
 
@gariepy Oh crud. That is a weird situation =/ I guess you can leave a comment. Not much else you can do.
 
@Tunaki: so it seems we are at an impasse
 
What do you think @Nathan about this ---------------------------------------^ (chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/30952911#30952911)
 
@hubot Note though - that one any site - users can't close questions that don't have at least one upvoted/accepted answer anyway. You'd have to really convince a p.se mod it was justified (in short - just best leave a comment with the dupe you think it is, and other users/the OP will notice and things go from there...)
 
Jon o/
 
@Tunaki cc @gariepy The obvious solution is to give one of the answers an up vote, close it and then you can either retract it or leave it.
 
@JonClements wait, what? Users can't close questions that don't have at least one upvoted/accepted answer?
I'm confused because IIRC I've closed many questions on SO that had answers, some of them accepted
 
7:55 PM
the target has to have... (unless it's by the same poster)
 
ah you mean close as a dupe
 
@TylerH I think he replied to the wrong person. He is talking about the dupe me thinks
 
@NathanOliver: not sure I understand...the question that should be closed is the one with the accepted answer...but I cannot point to another question without upvoted/accepted answers as the duplicate target
 
oops yeah... sorry... I did miss out "dupe" from my message... I could go back and edit it, but it'd seem a bit unfair now :)
 
@gariepy Well you can if you upvote one of the answer on the question you want to use as the dupe target.
 
7:57 PM
@gariepy in this case you have no choice, unless you want to flag for a moderator to consider merging, but that's a very rare occasion
 
@NathanOliver: ok, yes, that makes sense.
@TylerH: so I just finished doing that when @NathanOliver made his comment...should I change the flag, or just add a duplicate flag?
 
Its a hack but, hey, were devs, hacking is part of the job.
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@gariepy well once a flag is cast it can't be changed or reneged
just flag as a duplicate once you've done that, if you can't yet cast a vote to close as dupe
@NathanOliver I'm not starring that; I refuse!
 
:)
Its okay I have a hack where I can star it myself
 
grumble grumble
 
7:59 PM
I did not star that.
 
that was not me
 
No no.
 
ok, stackoverflow.com/questions/3871025/… flagged as duplicate of stackoverflow.com/questions/14930261/… (after upvoting an answer)
 
Alright.
 
Thanks for the suggestion, @NathanOliver!
 
8:01 PM
np
 
I wish every problem had such a simple solution...
 
If there is no solution then there is no problem!
 
@TylerH Yet. :)
 
that would be truly awesome
 
8:23 PM
Laterz
 
Two days ago I flagged this answer as VLQ: stackoverflow.com/questions/909078/matlab-vs-visual-c/…, and it got disputed, which seems, well, odd. And yesterday the question was put on hold. Are those two things related?
 
@gariepy It was disputed because of a review task: stackoverflow.com/review/low-quality-posts/12546738. For posts like those, the main problem is the question, so flagging to close the question is a better option.
 
wow...4 out of 6 said that was ok.
but yeah, you're right. The question is bad, so I guess it doesn't matter.
 
Yeah wiht those kind of question, prefer to close it, all the answers are bad anyway
 
8:47 PM
All out - might be back after "midnight". Or might sit by the pool with a Margarita.
 
I have to go
 
Does any RO have a few minutes please for a chat?
 
9:02 PM
I'm here Jon
 
Room owners having a problem, this will be fun
 
grabs popcorn
 
@Closey help
 
I have Kia-Ora
 
@gariepy Closey's not running because it's having some problems; I think they lost the database and are trying to get it back.
 
9:14 PM
how do you lose a database
 
I don't remember exactly what happened, but they updated something and something broke or something
 
The database ran away, since we tried to store all those links to those crap posts :P
 
@ArtOfCode It was tired and just left.
 
maybe it went to 'bot happy hour
 
We ran after it but it hides now.
 
9:19 PM
@NobodyNada something something something backups something
 
It looks like they accidentally deleted the database, and they're having a hard time getting it back
what? he posted an answer saying "delete my answer?"
 
he is just angry with some ninja puppies
 
so someone deleted his answer or something and he got upset and said "here's another one for you to delete?"
 
who knows.... and even more important who cares..
 
@ArtOfCode chat.stackoverflow.com/rooms/41570/conversation/closey-problems a bookmarked conversation about why Closey is not working.
 
9:34 PM
@ryanyuyu I get an error trying to view that: i.stack.imgur.com/HB8ht.png
 
all bookmarked conversations error out
 
should we ping someone?
 
They're working on your problems...
 
obviously not hard enough!
 
haha that's funny
 
9:55 PM
What kind of laptop is that?
 
So it looks like the problem happens only on chat.stackoverflow.com, not on any of the other two chat domains (chat.SE and chat.mSE).
I'll post a meta about it
 
@ryanyuyu: nice. Also awesome that there is an MSE post on that. :)
 
Lol you linked to a message of mine. Woot?
:)
 
10:09 PM
where?
the first link, to the time Shog edited your message?
 
shog-edits-tunas-message
 
Have a good weekend, chaps! Or week beginning, if you're unlucky enough to be 64 timezones ahead of me.
 
@Tunaki Yeah. I linked that one because it was the only thing I've ever bookmarked.
 
bye @gariepy
 
cya @gariepy
BTW, I'm going to go in a few hours, and after that I probably won't be back until a week from tomorrow.
@AshishAhujaツ ^^^^^
 
10:15 PM
bed time for me cya chaps..
 
night @Petter
 
@NobodyNada ok have fun being away
 
Hey, we hit 30k posts caught with Smokey. Thanks for your work with Smokey, all :)
 
Nice!
 
10:33 PM
I'm out of votes wooooo
 
@SotiriosDelimanolis do you have del votes left?
 
@Tunaki It's not drama until Godwin's Law is proven. :)
 
@SotiriosDelimanolis tuna could use some del vote review over in Campaigns then
 
10:42 PM
@SotiriosDelimanolis Meh, 1 vote, dupe of canonical ;)
 
10:53 PM
@AlexanderO'Mara Man, how do you get good quality CV-PLS? :D
 
That's not an answer. :D
 
@cricket_007 @JarrodRoberson there is a Java Del Hunt in the beehive if you are interested
 
Gosh... PH?
Wow...
 
wingding?
 
11:03 PM
@Tunaki You just marked that as naa?
 
I didn't see the link... I was fooled.
 
@AlexanderO'Mara Nopes... Another guy.
@Tunaki LoHL... What happened? Fired from office?
 
@PraveenKumar I've seen wingding use at least one other name. It looks like their work.
 
@AlexanderO'Mara Ha ha ha...
 
@AlexanderO'Mara Not really Wingding's style, and he's never linked to that site before.
@AlexanderO'Mara What other name?
 
11:04 PM
@Ferrybig That feedback will need to be cleared.
don't vote to delete guys, just spam nuke the hell out of it
 
@NobodyNada I don't remember, and I think it was nuked. There was one question yesterday with ~5 of their answers. One used a different name.
 
Sigh, it was edited.
 
They did another one here, but somebody edited: stackoverflow.com/a/37624578/3155639
 
@Tunaki It's nuked now...
Can someone kill Yam? :P
@Yam die
 
Yam
@PraveenKumar You need to be a room owner, moderator, or Sam to kill me.
 
11:07 PM
I know.. You die. :P
 
It's weird when we have conversations in posts that are about to get deleted...
Why "or Sam?" Sam's a RO, isn't he?
 
@NobodyNada 1. He wasn't RO when he wrote that code. 2. Whether he's an RO or not, he can kill her.
 
!!/location
 
@PraveenKumar Raspberry Pi
 
11:09 PM
Naish... :D
!!/help
 
@PraveenKumar I'm SmokeDetector, a bot that detects spam and offensive posts on the network and posts alerts to chat. A command list is available here.
 
I'm going to go now; see you guys probably in a week from tomorrow.
o/
 
11:32 PM
public class Popcorn
 
11:51 PM
@Tunaki I want it.
 
@Tunaki public function setAmount(amount = 10){this.amount = amount;}
 
night all o/
 

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