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Rob
4:00 AM
It is a solution, but it's not front end
 
It's usually a server-side language for outputting HTML, which is considered server-side.
 
PHP is a server-side script, it requires an Apache server to compile and execute it, it's not a front-end solution. your browser cannot compile and execute the PHP scripts.
 
Rob
And since you have a C# interface already it wouldn't be that efficient to then duplicate it in PHP
 
ok so we are splitting hairs. I am begin told with a near bronze in PHP that it is server side
thanks for the update
 
Also, in reference to last nights conversation on WordPress, the latest survey ranks WordPress as the #2 most-dreaded. stackoverflow.com/research/…
 
Rob
4:01 AM
"near bronze" because I despise PHP and don't answer those questions in my free time. SO tags isn't an indication of someone's ability and/or what they do professionally
 
Is PHP in first place? ;)
 
I don't want to do it in PHP. i want some buy-in from other people for a browser solution
 
@Quill Visual Basic
 
I am happy with what I have
 
jQuery
 
4:02 AM
@AndrewT. nonono. it's 2016, you don't need jquery
 
Rob
@Drew And I've said maybe 10-15 times over the last few months I'd be happy to help if you release the code so we can extend it
But each time it's met with silence.. which means I'm most likely going to have to duplicate your effort so that the data is free and queryable to anyone who wants it
 
@Quill It's also 2016, and we don't really have .closest yet.
 
@Rob We need a browser solution. what do you suggest
 
But then, it's also 2016, and we still can't style form input elements properly.
 
Rob
@Drew I already gave my suggestion.. we use your existing application and host it somewhere. Then simply add a new project within that solution that exposes a webpage and/or API
It should be extremely simple to modify
 
4:04 AM
who here is wlling to build something other than do some silly pedantic diatribe?
this anti-PHP thing is silly
we need a browser solution
 
Rob
I just said I was willing to help.. didn't mention PHP
sigh.. forget it.
 
we're willing to help, we just need to know how you've done your existing application
 
Rob
@Quill Exactly.. it's like pulling teeth
 
I need a simple browser solution in anything. Someone to own that. Hitting a db. And styling it
 
Rob
Yes, then give us the code for the existing application and I will do that
 
4:06 AM
Glassfish. I don't care.
 
Basically, we need to know "what we have now", and "what we want" (aka MCVE)
 
Rob
If you don't release the code and want it closed source, stop complaining if people don't help, because they can't
 
@rob take a breath
 
Glassfish.. okay, ASP.NET is fine too
 
I will give a screen shot. I will give a schema. We will see if someone can build it for a browser
 
Rob
4:08 AM
@Drew I'm a bit tired of asking so many times, because every few days you complain no one is helping. I offer to help and you refuse. So I'm tired of it
At this point I'd rather just re-write it so everyone can see/contribute to it rather than having it closed source on someones desktop
 
@Drew Which I guess you have discussed it before on Slack, I presume?
 
asp.net is fantastic. I need someone to do something. problem is right now it is Lamp stack
 
Go to cloud
 
@rob when have you and I ever had this discussion? I think never
what have I done to raise your ire?
 
Rob
@Drew We never had this discussion because for the first 10 times I figured the silence on your end was because you hadn't seen my messages and/or were busy. Though now it's clear since I've point blank asked to see the code and you refuse, that you'd rather keep it closed source. That's fine, I don't mind. But when you take that route you can't expect people to help out.
 
4:11 AM
we talked about bots a month ago
we talked about dupe bot dev with MsYv a month ago. That is not my thing.
I really don't understand why you hold this position about close source on me when what I am trying to do is open up everything.
 
You need to stand down.
 
You both need to calm down
Neither of you can understand each other, so you talk louder hoping the other will understand
 
I don't manage the slack acct.
I can't just let someone in and see no one doing anything.
 
Rob
@Drew If it's not closed source, can you zip it and send it to me, or put it on github?
The code has nothing to do with slack
 
4:16 AM
@rob I said yes. Like 1 hour ago. I said something like of course
 
Rob
And...?
 
But I want a browser solution because that is more viable
So I went the that route and have for 10 days
So what is so crazy about that? Rob?
 
@Drew, Rob is saying a browser solution works to connect to what you've already wrote, not by itself
 
No
 
so he wants access to the code you've already wrote, so he can connect your application to the web
 
Rob
4:19 AM
Exactly
 
Rob is saying he doesn't want to be a part of building a browser solution. He wants what I wrote and could care less
 
Rob
And my point is you say 'of course', and then nothing
..Are you serious?
 
yes I am serious
 
Rob
I said that I would like the code you have right now, because we can build a web layer ontop of it with very little effort
which is a 'browser solution' as you were asking for
It's already in C# so it should only be a few hours to hook it up and then a few more to style it
 
we need browser css JS PHP (asp.net but wrong stack)
 
4:21 AM
Let's avoid getting into an argument here, okay? Friendly is the best way
 
Rob
@Drew I already gave my suggestion.. we use your existing application and host it somewhere. Then simply add a new project within that solution that exposes a webpage and/or API
It should be extremely simple to modify
 
one doesn't scrape c# output into that
 
Rob
from above
hah
alright, forget it lol
 
@rob you aren't part of the solution. No big deal.
I am not part of the solution
 
Rob
I just fail to see why you want to use PHP as the web layer when you have it in C# as an application
there's no reason to scrape C# output because it'd be part of the same project
 
4:23 AM
Because people don't want to download an exe
 
@Rob He said LAMP stack and GlassFish earlier
 
We can add web service to current C# source
 
Rob
@Drew They won't need to download an .exe
 
then any web stack can use the data
 
Rob
C# isn't just for desktop applications
 
4:24 AM
C# can run as an exe, or on a web server
then you can connect C# to an API, or to ASP.NET
 
Rob
We take the current application. Build a web layer. Push it to a server. Now the application is browser based as you wanted
 
rob i have the best app in the world. That is all I want to use.
 
Rob
I really don't see where the disconnect here is
 
That is sweet. That is not other peeps
 
lol
 
Rob
4:25 AM
Well, when I recieve the source code I will help out. Until then you're on your own.. And I'll probably end up just doing it again so everyone can have the code since I doubt you'll send it
 
@rob I have a mysql db. It gets fed updates of stuff to close. I need a browser interface to it
Can you help
Yes or no
 
Rob
I said yes, if you send me the current application I will update it to be browser based
 
so that is no
 
Rob
hahahah
righto
So you want me to build it again, from scratch, for no reason?
 
you are worthless for the record
 
4:27 AM
This is turning volatile, enough is enough
end the conversation, it's going nowhere
 
because rob doesnt want to help and can't
 
@Drew HTML and JS will be easy for you to learn if you can do PHP
 
Rob
I feel like I'm on a prank show here
You want me to extend an application but won't give me the current one to extend from
It's impossible.
Goodluck with it
 
me too rob. PHP server side. Did not know that
 
So, we have C#, MySQL, LAMP... and need to create a webpage.
 
4:35 AM
@AndrewT. do you want to talk about this screen i.imgur.com/tY5qijT.jpg
because that screen is what I want. That has nothing to do with C#. It is about a group of people, selecting a drop down (Java, whatever) and seeing the filth
And clicking. And voting
Now can someone build that for me or not?
 
Well, I'm not a web developer at all, but at least anyone can see and discuss it, given that there's a screenshot.
 
Forget everything on the top. Forget everything on the right.
Can anyone put a simple whatever lamp stack thing together to allow a selection of a tag (java whatever) and render a grid
Just the GUI of a grid. angular whatever. I do all the backend middle ware. Just someone that can do this fed to a browser
 
If it's only feeding the data to grid list, then even ASP.NET, JSP, or any server-side programming can (no need PHP)
 
right now I have mysql and php. Who can do it
I can. I just want some one with JS good grid skills to make it superb
 
I believe someone here can (again, not me, because I'm awful at web)
 
4:45 AM
Can do it and wants to do it are two different metrics
you're looking for the second
 
And then all I get is give me your c# code cuz that guy could care less
 
Rob
I'm not sure what planet you are on mate, I said repeatedly that I would help. I have no use for your application. I wanted to help to help out this room
 
well there is the spec above. Help.
 
Rob
No, because you've made it clear you're keeping it closed source, and I have no interest in having a gatekeeper holding all the data and only having a dashboard (which we have with 10k tools)
 
We probably don't need your C# code at the moment, but we need an agreeable format to communicate between your C# output and the one used on for web (e.g. JSON)
 
Rob
4:47 AM
Having free read-access to the DB and being able to modify how the data is polled is also useful
 
@AndrewT. it is a mysql db
c# is completely unrelated
 
Rob
As far as it goes now, though, I'll spend a few nights over the few weeks to make that available to all
 
@Rob it's probably pretty easy to setup a C# WebApi project
 
Rob
Yes, that was what I wanted to do
No reason to rewrite code, but now that's the only way I suppose
Drew apparantly wants to keep the app running on his desktop and have a webpage simply read from the database
 
a guy logs in. SSL.
 
Rob
4:49 AM
which severely cripples the usefulness of it
 
a guy selects a tag
a grid is dumped
what is the issue
 
@Rob, it's probably easier to rewrite the whole thing for a webstack than port it anyway
 
Rob
Yep
 
so you guys aren't the ticket. We have already established that
 
Rob
It doesn't look too complicated, there's this feed: stackoverflow.com/… and stackoverflow.com/…
Those two would pretty much crawl the majority
Then just need to check the question for tags
Should only take a few nights to get up to speed and put up a webapi
 
4:52 AM
@Rob need mod access, if you're okay using your account, then go ahead.
 
Rob
Sure
 
just make sure to secure your login info well
 
Rob
There isn't a way to do it without a user account, as far as I know
Yep
 
@Drew We're just not your ticket
 
How much time have you guys actually done this?
Because I am really happy to defer to you all
 
4:55 AM
defer?
 
"postpone"?
 
even still, what does that even mean?
 
@Quill what does that even mean
what have any of you done in this space but pontificate
You 3 have a go at it. Let's see where it is in a month.
 
Perhaps they won't work on your current data, Drew, but as long as the outcome is there (a webpage), then I guess everyone should be happy?
 
@Drew It's very easy to scrape a web page. and very easy to setup WebApi for C#
It would take a few days tops
Anyway, it's pointless to argue about this. We all just disagree.
 
4:59 AM
@Quill Then my family is glad. Let us know how it goes
 
@Magisch I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
Magisch passed a audit!
 
second question I get is an audit
uwot.m8
 
Magisch passed an audit!
 
Hey @Alex
 
5:11 AM
We got 60 cvs now
and 60 queue reviews
 
Yeah, which unfortunately means when you go through the queue, you can't add anything else to the queue until UTC time rolls around.
 
Which means the queue is not the approach
 
Thats assuming that you have no "leave open" in the queue
 
Oh yeah, those are pretty rare though I find.
 
I get about ~60% "I know I'll close this within 5s"
10% "Leave open upon closer examination"
20% "Close upon closer examination
and 10% where I skip
 
5:18 AM
@Magisch You've reviewed 60 posts today (of which 3 were audits), thanks! The time between your first and last review today was 16 minutes and 44 seconds, averaging to a review every 16 seconds.
 
o_O
@Closey help
 
This is a chat bot for the SO Close Vote Reviewers chat room, developed by the SOCVR developers. For more information see the github page. Reply with commands to see a list of commands.
 
> Mr. site manager Thanked for inviting me accept suspension
 
@Closey commands
 
@Magisch Here is a list of commands you have permission to run:
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commands - Shows this list.
current tag - Get the tag that has the most amount of manageable close queue items from the SEDE query.
help - Prints info about this software.
membership - Shows a list of all permission groups, and the members in those permission groups.
 
5:22 AM
@Closey stats
 
8188 need review
580 reviews today
3172822 reviews all-time
 
@Closey reviews today
 
@Magisch You've reviewed 59 posts today (of which 3 were audits). The time between your first and last review today was 16 minutes and 44 seconds, averaging to a review every 17 seconds.
 
@SmokeDetector Still there...
 
Rob
Was Mick MacCallum a Mod in the past?
 
Rob
Ah, thanks
duplicate of mod-deleted answer (I guess spam)
 
Ian
The spam-user has been joining for 2 years! O.o
 
user3956566
back
 
user3956566
5:47 AM
@Rob we could use a similar thing that we do with the bots that grabs posts that are closed.
 
user3956566
@Drew your attitude is not one of inducing a cohesiveness within the room. You are purporting to be the only one here with any attempt at a solution, you put down people as not being knowledgeable as you and I honestly think you need to adjust your communication skills here. You won't like me saying this, but as I have put in for RO nomination, I feel I should speak up, in some form of moderation. Perhaps have a read back of the transcript and put yourself in others shoes. @rene
 
user3956566
I won't say anymore on the topic.
 
user3956566
6:22 AM
@Closey commands
 
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW Here is a list of commands you have permission to run:
add [user id] to [group name] - Manually adds a user to the given permission group.
alive - A simple ping command to test if the bot is running.
approve request [#] - Approves a pending permission request.
audit stats - Shows stats about your recorded audits.
commands - Shows this list.
current tag - Get the tag that has the most amount of manageable close queue items from the SEDE query.
help - Prints info about this software.
membership - Shows a list of all permission groups, and the members in those permission groups.
 
user3956566
@Closey next 10 tags
 
Refreshing the tag listing. Please wait...
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW The next 10 tags are: 1337, 1336, 37, 32, 29, 27, 25, 25, 24, 24
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
user3956566
 
user3956566
@Closey stats
 
6:37 AM
8186 need review
822 reviews today
3173064 reviews all-time
 
user3956566
7:13 AM
hi @KevinGuan
 
o/
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW So today is Friday, are you also waiting that who could be the new RO? :)
 
user3956566
@KevinGuan it's Friday for us
 
user3956566
yeh I'd like to know :D
 
user3956566
good luck :D
 
Hmm...yeah. Blame the timezone. Anyway, we shall see the result this evening. And good luck :D
 
user3956566
7:16 AM
it's always quiet at this time
 
user3956566
I don't think it will be me :D
 
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW Yeah, only us and bots :(
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW Hmm...not NAA?
 
user3956566
@KevinGuan there's been a few spam accounts using similar names and it's first post, user for one day. Link to paid products on website
 
goes to check the link and the user
 
user3956566
 
7:22 AM
Okay got it. That's even an unregistered user.
 
user3956566
@KevinGuan I am not understanding why people don't believe me when I say these things. If it was another user, people are more likely to believe. Me no.
 
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW Huh, for example?
 
user3956566
@KevinGuan doesn't matter, too off topic
 
Ah, I think it's still little important since you're going to be a RO...but anyway, try to not think about it. That's all.
 
user3956566
@KevinGuan You're lovely K :D
 
7:29 AM
:D
 
Hi all o/
 
Hello
 
User-script spam recommendation: SmokePreview - Auto one-box a report (Not a real one-box so just ignore rene) of Smokey; Add a "Flag as spam" button (below that one-box); Remove the one-box and change the color of the report to gray when it got deleted.
And remember add // @include http://chat.stackoverflow.com/rooms/41570/so-close-vote-reviewers after the other @include if you want use it here.
And hiya Tushar, Bhargav.
 
Hey Tushar o/
@KevinGuan Plop
 
Polp
 
7:39 AM
@SmokeDetector Still there, needs one more
 
user3956566
hi all
 
Hey @MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW o/
 
@BhargavRao How do you know that it only needs one more?
 
Damn, I flagged that spam earlier as Link Only
 
user3956566
@BhargavRao no harm, no foul
 
7:40 AM
and gone
 
@SmokeDetector gone now
2 days ago, by Bhargav Rao
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW Yep, I am using a proxy through a mod's system :P
 
Really?
 
Yeah
 
Wow...then why your flag didn't delete it?
 
Guess why? :P
(Pro tip, click that transcript and read the next line)
 
7:44 AM
stackoverflow.com/questions/36078388/… Is this a typo? Normally passing parameter in button's command is a common problem but looking at other two buttons in same code, seems like asker know how to deal with it and just forgets to put lambda there.
 
@BhargavRao Okay okay
So it was a lie, -1.
 
And I am sure there are TONS of duplicates out there about that. Like this one. stackoverflow.com/questions/6920302/…
 
@Lafexlos It looks No MCVE to me...but I think you better post an answer instead. Since forgot 6 letters seems isn't a typo.
 
Bye all, Class started o/
(Hi @JNat o/, saw you drop in :P)
 
7:47 AM
Bye Bye o/
 
It's a reaally common problem(as you might know). Then closing as dupe should be better.
And Bhargav to the rescue. Thanks.
 
@BhargavRao \o
 
@Lafexlos Ah that's fine.
@BhargavRao Why you're still here?
 
@KevinGuan No one can see me using SO :P
 
7:51 AM
lol
 
Morning all
 
user3956566
\o
 
8:12 AM
@KevinGuan There's a suggested edit on that question, but it desperately needs formatting. Any takers? I'm running out of time.
 
user3956566
@NisseEngström out of edits, out of everything sorry
 
@NisseEngström Voted to approve - it's from OP's comment.
 
@NisseEngström taken
 
@NisseEngström Oh, and formatted.
Huh? Smokey can auto deletes a report when it's gone now?
 
8:28 AM
@KevinGuan Oh, I thought the suggested edit was the reformat :/ Should take more than 5 seconds to look
 
@Gimby Yeah, I also misunderstood what Nisse means before take more than 5 seconds to look :P
 
Morning Gentleman!
And GentleWoman \o
 
user3956566
\o
 
\o/
 
8:35 AM
Oh great, another one.
 
Plop!
 
@Drew Can you try to control yourself a bit more in how you express your self? I don't know yet if I agree or disagree with your point of view but your choice of language makes me want to dismiss all your input which might not be beneficial to our effort. You're heard, your concern is clear, your take on to the solution has value as well. Please turn the volume knob a notch down, keep it constructive. Please.
 
Plop @Kyll
 
magic
 
I was about to type sd gone ='(
 
user3956566
8:38 AM
hi!
 
Two reports above still alive!
 
user3956566
@rene @KevinGuan and I are curious. What universal time will you release the RO noms results?
 
user3956566
sorry to jump on you, have you had coffee?
 
@Kyll I wonder when did Smokey learn that feature...magically!
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW Ah yeah.
 
@KevinGuan Yesterday
 
8:39 AM
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW No, I have not and I'm bound to leave for work meetings.
 
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW 18 UTC IIRC
 
@Kyll Okay, and I like your CAPS comment.
 
user3956566
@rene have a good one
 
user3956566
@Kyll ah k.. goes to clocks
 
user3956566
8:41 AM
@JohannesJander yes
 
> Fri Mar 18 08:37:25 UTC 2016
 
(if anyone fancies)
 
user3956566
@KevinGuan where did you find that?
 
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW we have planned an internal meeting between the RO's to discuss the nominations after 18:00 UTC. When that is finished and we reached agreement without any major casualties expect announcements during the UTC evening.
3
 
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW The date -u command :P
 
user3956566
8:43 AM
@rene oh, you mean could involve sword fighting?
 
Still alive after FIFTEEN minutes. I am disappoint. Flag as spam!
 
So 10 hours late right? Fine, I can only check the result tomorrow.
afk
 
user3956566
@Kyll I think some people mistake these for NAAs
 
user3956566
@Ferrybig yeh I'm upgrading IDE, so am playing chess and answering SD :D
 
user3956566
8:46 AM
it's so true
 
user3956566
I love those cartoons
 
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW ... Comics. Those are web comics. =p
 
user3956566
@Kyll rolls eyes :D
 
@Kyll Potato potaato. They're silent single frame cartoons.
 
8:50 AM
is anyone else having issues with this snippet in my edit? Forgot to include the HTML so I included it, but OP claims that it's not working.
 
user3956566
@Ferrybig yes I like that
 
user3956566
@cybermonkey it's showing a blue square
 
@cybermonkey A big blue square appears
 
@cybermonkey look at the markdown, the old version had the html outside the code snippet
 
yeah, that's what the OP's code does. not sure what the OP's having a problem with
@Ferrybig yeah, the new edit fixes that
 
8:52 AM
@cybermonkey I think JQuery is missingandalso other external resources
 
@cybermonkey Its not working on my side... Getting "js:18 Uncaught ReferenceError: $ is not defined"
 
Oh, now I try again nothing happens
 
then it works.. that's the OP's problem to fix
could always remove the bugged code and delete the answer as being link-only..
 
@cybermonkey Which it is not
 
The only problem with the code is that it doesnt state it uses JQuery
 
8:56 AM
@Kyll the original answer before the bugged code was added was link-only. it was a JSFiddle link with no explanation.
 
(and uses http resources on a https website)
 
@Ferrybig I added JQuery via Stacksnippets' editor, blame the SE engine devs for that.
 
isn't there any mod around to blame?
 
@Kyll doesn't this class as link-only? I'll eat my hat if it doesn't..
 
user3956566
@cybermonkey yes
 
8:58 AM
if someone wants to fix the OP's code, that's fine by me. I simply copied and pasted code from the JSFiddle link to Stack Snippets, to prevent it being a link-only answer.
 
user3956566
ok gotta go bbl
 
user3956566
@cybermonkey you did fine. It's ok to copy the code from a fiddle
 
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW bye
 
user3956566
I think people are misunderstanding what you've done, they need to look at the fiddle
 
user3956566
\o
 

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