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Ven
5:02 PM
@wilx he's quoting stuff
 
@Ven Who?
 
Ven
@wilx the link
 
I found coke vanilla & cherry
much better than the regular you get when ordering
 
user1804599
Links don't quote.
 
if you wanna know what happiness sounds like, it's like this
banana & caramel crumble
with coke vanilla
 
5:08 PM
vanilla coke is OP
 
user1804599
vanilla coke is a faggot
 
Lol.
 
lol obamacode
 
user1804599
> stabbing and lightly wounding an IDF soldier
 
user1804599
why are people so stupid
 
user1804599
5:12 PM
Protip: if you attack an IDF soldier you'll die
 
user1804599
@fredoverflow Thanks Obama for teaching the kid how to program.
 
user1804599
nice shellcheck.net @sehe
 
user406009
Those "Teach Children How To Code" movements sort of scare me. It wouldn't take too many more people in CS for the field to get over-saturated.
 
user1804599
It's politically correct so shut up.
 
@HubertApplebaum trying to get food at 1:30 am Chinese new year: impossible
 
user406009
5:22 PM
@MadameElyse You might find this interesting: businessinsider.com/…
 
@Lalaland I wouldn't worry. They teach 'em code, but not data, so they're all useless.
 
user406009
Specifically the "Ruffled feathers over diversity" section.
 
@MadameElyse now we can do /*thanks, obama*/ :D
 
user1804599
@Lalaland lol
 
@fredoverflow Eww! I've been hacked:(
 
user406009
5:25 PM
@MadameElyse Corresponding HN discussion: news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11049067
 
user1804599
The office alone is enough reason for me not to work there, but I'm not surprised by that article either:
 
user1804599
 
user1804599
Imagine all the fucking noise if everyone is working.
 
many imacs there
 
@MadameElyse Headphones.
 
user406009
5:26 PM
@MadameElyse Looks pretty similar to Facebook when I did an internship there.
 
user1804599
@Lalaland lol HN
 
user406009
It actually wasn't as noisy as you would expect.
 
but yeah, seems like a hard place to concentrate on programming
 
user1804599
@MartinJames I can't concentrate with headphones on unless there's a wall directly behind me.
 
user406009
The trick is to have sound proofed meeting rooms everywhere.
 
user406009
5:26 PM
And then people go there to talk.
 
@StackedCrooked OK, that is an excellent reason for me not to work there.
 
user1804599
Spolsky's office seems very nice:
 
user1804599
 
user1804599
Everyone's got their own quiet room.
 
user406009
5:27 PM
@AlexM. More evidence of the point about programming contests: youtube.com/watch?v=DdmyUZCl75s
 
I kinda dropped the topic a while ago :P
 
user406009
Yeah, but it's always nice to find evidence of my dumb opinions.
 
user406009
Let's me know I am a little less dumb than I thought.
 
well I agree with your opinion
 
@Lalaland confirmation bias? :p
 
5:30 PM
fwiw there are jobs for people like that, otherwise google wouldn't hire them like crazy
 
@Lalaland 'int i,j,k,a,b,c,x,y,z,a1,a2,a3;'
 
I doubt it's for user-facing app dev
 
user406009
@StackedCrooked Probably because they rely on a lot of Unixy tools.
 
user406009
Which work better on the command line.
 
user1804599
No, because they're hipsters.
 
user1804599
5:30 PM
Gentoo is much more Unix-like than OS X.
 
user406009
Yeah, but managing a fleet of Gentoo machines would be a pain.
 
user1804599
That said, they're all SJWs as we've seen before, so just tell them about Foxconn and they'll instantly switch away from Apple.
 
in practice you can ameliorate the effects of people doing too clever things and make them stop doing it through reviews and things so w/e
the contests or no contests thing is a non-problem
 
when I write code it's not a contest it's a contract
 
user406009
At least in JavaScript land, things tend to be much harder when you don't have a decent terminal.
 
user1804599
5:34 PM
It is everywhere except in .NET and Java land, and .NET and Java suck, so it is everywhere.
 
user1804599
I use terminals all the time.
 
user1804599
I don't even have a GUI file manager.
 
user1804599
Z shell with coreutils is the best file manager.
 
You sound like a raging heterosexual
 
I spent like an hour trying to trace down a bug
it turned out I didn't realize Word8 was unsigned and I was checking if < 0
so lame
 
5:37 PM
lol
 
can't we have like static checks for these
it should be compile time noticeable
or maybe it is but I'm using the wrong haskell plugins
 
user406009
I think gcc can catch that nowadays.
 
user1804599
GCC can't catch bugs in Haskell code.
 
@nick how are you still awake at this hour?
 
5:41 PM
because I told myself I wouldn't get food till I finished something
 
user1804599
Improving good code is fun.
 
@StackedCrooked those shoes O.o
 
at least I learned that you can check if a number is negative or not by checking the high bit
 
did you know jQuery sucks ass
 
user1804599
Yes. It's terrible.
 
user1804599
5:42 PM
Use Cycle or React.
 
did you know food is impossible to get after a certain hour
 
@nick wow, that dedication :)
 
@nick /cc @jaggedSpire
 
no its self degradation
 
5:44 PM
lol
 
@nick @ElimGarak get your ass in here discord.gg/0oF7WvtiGIDwnVMu
 
user1804599
I'm going to write a library that generates SVG patterns from hashes.
 
@nick not my ass
 
what made you guys use discord btw
I mean this room
discord, mumble, irc
so manee
 
well discord could replace mumble & irc
 
Ven
5:56 PM
heh, new github "crisis"
 
Ell
hi
I have eye infection probably
 
@Ell Come on discord and complain about it.
@набиячлэвэлиь Come on discord and voice chat please. Or else we'll kill you.
 
@StackedCrooked Still looks nice :p
 
Sure :p
 
> Why I want Concepts, and why I want them sooner rather than later
Nice title.
 
Ven
6:14 PM
hi @Morwenn <3
 
@Ven Hey :)
 
dat waggle
like a goose
 
one piece was delayed to next week .. oh well
 
6:37 PM
atom remembers your current selection when you restart the editor
selection = piece of text that is highlighted
via drag
 
All good editors do
 
this is the first I see doing it
can you give me another example?
 
your face
 
@AlexM. NPP as well
 
6:51 PM
@Morwenn hey
 
Anything new and/or exciting?
 
sleepy floof /cc @Ell @ElimGarak @набиячлэвэлиь
@Morwenn discord!
there's a floof channel
 
Discord?
 
you should joooiin
@nick 24-hour grocery stores, bby
 
6:57 PM
Soory, I don't discord.
 
@Morwenn why nottt
 
@Nooble Why would I?
 
@Morwenn Because... uhh...
 
Discord is gr8
 
7:03 PM
Yeah!
 
Does what both Mumble and Snackchat/IRC do better
 
Good, I don't need 36 of those.
 
Ven
^
 
Should at least give it a try.
 
No thanks.
 
7:05 PM
awh
 
Hey, first time I get to use std::unique_ptr::reset.
 
Ven
..yay?
 
@Rapptz Very nice video, Danny. We're proud of you
 
@Morwenn thank god for intellisense/autocompletion :D
 
7:07 PM
:p
 
@набиячлэвэлиь ye
 
lol runescape quests
 
Haha, fuck, I'm amazing :D
 
@Morwenn Don't confuse it with .release() :)
 
@StackedCrooked I don't :p
 
7:12 PM
Like my colleague did.
 
@StackedCrooked I'm... sorry for you :(
 
> Jumping to different parts of code was the only way to loop code back before the idea of object oriented programming came along.
TIL
 
But I call it with a parameter so there is no chance to get it wrong.
 
Ah. You're clever :D
@AlexM. lol
 
> Jack, please never do programming. No computer in the world has enough RAM to handle the simplest of programs you'll create.
lol
 
Ven
7:15 PM
@AlexM. dank runescape memes
 
He used lots of copy/paste.
 
@fredoverflow who is jack?
 
you don't know jack?
 
Seán William McLoughlin, best known on YouTube under his pseudonym Jacksepticeye, is an Irish YouTube game commentator, known primarily for his comedic Let's Play series on video games and occasional vlogs. As of January 2016, his channel has over 8 million subscribers, over 3 billion total video views, and is currently the 76th most subscribed channel on YouTube. == Internet video career == McLoughlin first joined YouTube on 24 February 2007, under the username "Jacksepticeye". He started his YouTube career with a Solid Snake impression uploaded on 12 November 2012, and began producing let's play...
 
user1804599
7:17 PM
What is a good verb that means "to make more transparent"?
 
@fredoverflow Oh, I've seen that guy on YT.
 
@MadameElyse Clear
 
@StackedCrooked I love him, but he's really terrible at programming.
 
user1804599
"transparentize"
 
Ven
@StackedCrooked why's it that bad?
ah, got it, it leaks
 
7:19 PM
Right.
It's bad naming really.
 
Ven
should've literally called it "leak" :P
 
They could have just named it "detach" for example.
I'm really angry at the standard library for that.
 
nah
shoulda done like what React did and named it something like dangerously_fuck_shit_up
 
what did he think release did?
 
wish I could write haskell at work
so exciting
 
7:23 PM
@jaggedSpire He probably thought that it freed the memory.
 
I can see that happening
 
It releases the unique_ptr's grip on the memory
 
user1804599
 
7:31 PM
@StackedCrooked I concur with them
 
@StackedCrooked I wanna go there and have them make me eat stuff
like pizza
and steak
 
my reaction is "noope"
 
Vomit.
 
@ThePhD Why? D:
 
BECAUSE YOUR FA- nah I don't know why.
 
wot
 
@jaggedSpire also notice the number of dislikes on that video
Fine Bros really messed up.
 
Ven
why do so many people disliked this video? lol
 
@StackedCrooked well I should have anticipated that
 
@MadameElyse why me :)
Nice indeed
 
7:37 PM
but I didn't. oh, internet vigilantism
 
I wonder how disastrous cheaper monitors are
cheaper == half the price of my current monitor or less amazon.com/BenQ-XL2411Z-Monitor-Supported-seamless/dp/…
I want it just to have more space when working but if it looks like crap then ugh not sure I can take it
 
@Morwenn @coincoin c'est pour vous!
 
@AlexM. It also means you could have ripped yourself off like a dolt.
 
Good old MSN Messenger.
 
gah but if I do 2 monitors I'll end up in the pit of incompatibilities with old games and crap
why can't computers just be easy
 
7:43 PM
Incompatabilities from 2 monitors...?
 
yes
I wanted to play battle realms during the winter holiday
 
IME games in windowed mode are friendlier to multimonitor setups
 
I was doing 2 monitors via laptop + secondary monitor (which was set as primary)
 
@StackedCrooked I was unable to understand the stl containers for memory mapped allocations/saw it was too expensive to resize-copy/too lazy for writing the entire thing. So, the solution is pretty simple when iterating the data, just an std::pair with a pointer and a counter big enough, unsinged long long or so.
 
the game wouldn't want to start (cannot create D3D device error crap) without completely disabling the monitor
 
7:44 PM
also oh god fucking gzdoom setting gamma setting globally, FOR EVERY MONITOR
 
problem is, that meant "disabling" my laptop's screen or playing on the laptop
and I so don't want to play games on the laptop screen
 
@TonyTheLion :3
 
another pain was when I tried to play one of the old Annos
it did run with 2 monitors
but it didn't know about locking the cursor
so it was unplayable unless keyboard scrolling :<
underrail doesn't lock the cursor properly either
it's jittery towards the edges so I ended up scrolling with right click
 
argh cursor locking
future game developers, please make it opt-out
 
7:48 PM
@TonyTheLion Glad I'm not in there rn.
I think I'd have a heart attack.
 
@ThePhD :3
 
@ThePhD We were just discussing that on Facebook
> Phantom derpstorm would be rolling in his grave... If he were, you know, dead. Which he might be when he sees all those catfaces. colonthree emoticon
 
on discord you can actually subscribe to different channels on different settings, so you can be notified whenever anyone posts a new floof, while receiving no notifications for updates in another channel, even then you're mentioned
 
user1804599
 
user1804599
7:54 PM
:D :D :D
 
nice!
 
user1804599
squares = do
  let unit = (w + h) / 2.0 / 80.0
  let points = [(x, y, n) | x <- [0..7], y <- [0..7], n <- [0.0..3.0]]
  (mconcat <$>) $ flip mapM points $ \(x, y, n) -> do
    c <- (\f -> darken (round f) color) <$> getRandomR (0.5 :: Double, 15.0)
    return $ svgRect (fromIntegral x * w / 8.0 + unit * n)
                     (fromIntegral y * h / 8.0 + unit * n)
                     (w / 8.0 - unit * n * 2)
                     (h / 8.0 - unit * n * 2)
                     c
 
I like to be returned $s
 
3 monitors would probably be better so I can have one straight in my face
not sure I'd like to sit diagonally
 
8:33 PM
@TonyTheLion what is it even (discord?)
 
@sehe ye
 
no, what is it?
 
a chat thingy
 
sure. why are you guys all in it? Didn't we have slacker, irc, whatnot?
 
this one seems to be better
 
8:34 PM
Lounge<diaspora>
 
you can ping people and set up channels and stuff
 
also voice chat
 
it oneboxes pics and freezes the gifs until you mouse over them
 
it also has inline highlighted code formatting
 
it doesn't have markdown links though :(
 
8:36 PM
that would be nice to have
 
or quotes, replies, transcript, pinned/starred messages
 
we have an entire floof channel though, so that's nice
 
but otherwise it's great :D
 
concentrated floof
 
Rapptz said they're looking at transcript support
 
8:37 PM
cool, I guess that would also include search and permalinks
and with that, oneboxing for permalinks -> quotes can't be too hard
 
@TonyTheLion linkage?
 
> This is how it happens: we construct, and then when we reach a plateau, the wolves come along, destroy what we make, and liberate us to go forth and do better. Psychopaths are the garbage collectors of human society.
whoa. There's some observations there: Requiem For Github
 
@sehe I have only skimmed through. Well, we will see. If they fuck up for OSS, I will have to move elsewhere. sigh
 
It's not about github, for me. I like the article for the general observations
 
8:47 PM
dayum Daisy's a stupid dog
 
Commit dogicide
 
no, Daisy is precius
 
Good morning
 
morning Mr Sexy voice :)
 
:)
 
9:00 PM
@jaggedSpire So throw it into a volcano? :)
 
How did you guys managed to keep me in the voice chat for 5 hours
 
@Shoe we're just that interesting
@wilx noooo
 
@Shoe because it was nice to talk
 
And of course death and depressing topics had to be brought up
 
it is the internet
it wasn't too bad though
 
9:01 PM
Rule #1: if Jefffrey sounds drunk, don't engage
 
@TonyTheLion What is this UI?
 
@wilx discooooorrrrd
 
@jaggedSpire What is that?
 
user1804599
@wilx A shitty chat app in which you can't plonk puppy.
 
9:03 PM
@MadameElyse Heh. OK.
 
Sep 26 '15 at 11:15, by ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ
Is it possible to be boring while drunk? I find that I always follow the same patterns now: talk about politics while knowing nothing about it, talk about death, trying to stir some drama up, try to dance to something, trying to be social with people I don't know.
Part of the usual pattern alright
 
awwww <3
 
Holy mother, how many channels are there now on discord
 
not enough
 
loads to satisfy all our topical needs
 
9:04 PM
I love to talk about whatever in general not-dedicated channels.
 
Why do bootanimations make sound now. This is tupid
 
what even is cooking-without-dog
 
its the best channel so far
 
9:20 PM
roof floof /cc @Ell @набиячлэвэлиь
 
user1804599
@sehe I'm having fun now:
 
user1804599
for repo in $repos; do
    (
        git clone "git@github.com:rightfold/$repo.git"
        cd "$repo"
        git remote remove origin
        git remote add origin "git@bitbucket.org:rightfold/$repo.git"
        git push -u origin master
    )
done
 
@MadameElyse Someone doesn't know about git remote set-url :)
 
user1804599
@sehe I thought that may say "already up to date"
 
Why
 
9:23 PM
@sehe You are missing a
 
FWIW I don't know what git push -u does (other than git push)
 
user1804599
@sehe set upstream
 
ah makes sense (but unrequired with set-url)
 
user1804599
Ok. :)
 
hi all
 
9:49 PM
hey
get in discord
 
Monday: get in mumble
Tuesday: get in IRC
Thursday: get in slacker
Friday: rebecca
Saturday: get in discord
Sunday: get rekt
13
 
kek
 
I'll be selling category theory to functional programmers in Warsaw in two weeks. http://www.meetup.com/Monadic-Warsaw/events/228675674/
@BartekBanachewicz, there's an event with your name written on it!
 
10:06 PM
@TonyTheLion Um. Invite please.
 
user1804599
@sehe gitgud.io claims to be "100% politically neutral"
 
user1804599
> You can create up to 1000 projects.
 
It was designed with you in mind @MadameElyse
 
user1804599
:)
 
user1804599
10:13 PM
Dance of Fate is such a beautiful song.
 
user1804599
It's an absolute masterpiece.
 
ohhh I like it :)
 
user1804599
 
user1804599
lol
 
When is the superbowl kickoff in CET?
 
user1804599
10:27 PM
Why would you kick superb owls?
 
Nice
 
Its in an hour I think
 
@MadameElyse It has become sort of a tradition. This is the 50'th attempt. Very few owls are harmed.
@Prismatic thanks
 
@MadameElyse Superbowel makes you immune to Crohn's Disease.
 
does that include IBS?
 
10:35 PM
Yes, but if you want it, you have to sit through days of watching intermittent sporting activity between teams of Michelin Men.

IBS is more fun.
 
no, I don't want IBS ;p
 
@Puppy Stick to the drugs:)
 
YAY DRUGS
in fact I just took some
 
Hello, everyone!
 
user1804599
Hi ThePhD.
 
10:43 PM
@sehe aha where have you found that
 
10:59 PM
float content_parent_height =
    list_view->GetContentParent()->height.Get();
my code has reached maximum ugly levels
 

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