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3:00 PM
Yea Try
you can get a job and they'll help
 
I don't have money, that's why USA, because you can make money. I ve heared that getting a B1 is a tough way
 
probably your 'easiest' bet
mostly because they do a lot of the work
but you have to get hired and be worth the hassle
 
someone wanna play Heroes of the Storm? I just got 4 beta keys which I will not use
 
yeah I think I am going to give it a serious try ~ meanwhile searching for other ways to migrate - it is super hard to migrate in USA
 
I'd check it out warren
My buddy and I do a gaming podcast =)
always looking for new games to try
 
3:04 PM
Try_me go to Mexico then find a tunnel, go through said tunnel and you're in.
 
Truth Try, i've been on the border
 
Ask @Emmanuel for more info
 
it is porous
 
Do I have you on G+, Nathaniel?
 
Well there is no other option I might do what you proposed to
Hopefully my homie @Emmanuel will help me out
 
3:05 PM
do you know how to swim?
 
LOL I actually do, I used to go swimming when I was younger
 
How old are you Try_me?
 
Or you could just watch this movie. It pretty much gives you all the info you need youtube.com/watch?v=JCwrdqGrxBU
 
Yea Warren
 
haha, if goverment catches some1 who arrived illegaly then he's screwd for his entire life man ;p
 
3:09 PM
the email on my SO profile will work
@WarrenFaith
 
ok, do you need 2 keys?
 
if you don't mind, that would be sweet.
but one is fine
 
@Try_me34 No you're not, max 10 years. Plus, you're not screwed you're just where you were ;)
 
two it is,but I don't see an email on your profile
 
3:10 PM
I think you are given a Red Card means that ur passports get flag forever
 
there is something like black list shared among countries
 
its vidible on mine
 
I can't give you advice on how to get here sorry, but t's not a rocket science.
Just read and read some more.
 
Trying man, Trying
 
@Tushar Welcome. Please read the room rules room-15.github.io
 
3:14 PM
I do not know if I am sold with Dagger 2
 
You should apply in the Green Card lottery every year, that's a aslim chance but still a chance.
 
@codeMagic Already did that part. :)
 
Why not Emm?
 
Em, are there any disadvantages in comaprison to D1?
Coma prison :D I am leaving it
 
@nana I do actually, 3 years now but still haven't won
 
3:15 PM
Well I do not know if there are any benefits for mobile development
 
i need the #RNGeesus with me
 
How old are you?
 
23
 
Dagger 1 tries to avoid reflection as much as possible
 
AFAIK it's faster, and generates nice code. Dagger2 has no reflection at all.
 
3:16 PM
with Dagger 1 it is easy to set up dependency scopes
 
@NathanielD.Waggoner it's not on mine either. I think the "email" field is always private. You need to add it somewhere else to be visible
 
I know Dagger 2 has no reflection, but how much faster is it really in comparison?
 
Try_me, why not apply to some colleges in Us? It's much easier to stay afterwards because you will get job offers.
 
Thats a good point, but they are all like so much expensive for non-US citizens
 
@Tushar Thank you, kind sir
 
3:17 PM
What I am saying is,, why not? What are the disadvantages. I mean if you use D1, I am not saying you have to upgrade. But if I am to start using D at all I will use D2.
You can work while you study.
 
I think for me it will be getting used to the new @Component
also figuring out how to create scopes
 
Is that possible? Like a part time master program?
 
But, you could start with some EU countries. Go to Ireland or England if you can only speak English
 
I agree with that Emm, and I'm going to miss how easy overrides = true was
 
@codeMagic ahh thanks
 
3:20 PM
I wonder if they'll update u2020 to use Dagger 2
 
yeah I totally agree, maybe I will just do a MS just for being able to migrate.. There are some chances of doing a average MS with logical cost
 
@codeMagic x)
 
is this the way to create scopes now?
2
Q: What determines the lifecycle of a component (object graph) in Dagger 2?

EnricoI'm trying to wrap my head around scopes in Dagger 2, specifically the lifecycle of scoped graphs. How do you create a component that will be cleaned up when you leave the scope. In the case of an Android application, using Dagger 1.x you generally have a root scope at the application level whic...

WTF?!
I guess that is not what I am looking for...
 
tl;dr; :/
 
Hey Tushar, welcome.
 
3:23 PM
This is what I am saying...
is it really worth moving to Dagger 2?
 
@nana Thank you.
 
welcome Tush
 
^^^ I can't answer that question, I will only just start using it now. I was waiting for this release because it looks very useful.
 
this might be a question for @AdamS or @trevor-e
 
@NathanielD.Waggoner Thanks. :) Nice picture. It's from Cyanide & Happiness, right?
 
3:28 PM
This might be a nice article to read
 
Apparently
i just banked it from Ahmad during april fools
ganked
 
damn
I don't get this dagger
no D nor D2
there are already forks for u2020 with D2
 
Dagger has a bit of a learning curve
 
I wanted to do a simple thing to start:
to be able to get app context from there is no context at all
and to be able to get my singleton Engine.class object
bu so far no luck
 
3:33 PM
the get the Application Context you need an "AppModule" that gets passed this into its constructor
then in "AppModule" you define a @Provides @Singleton method that returns the Application Context
 
done that
 
@joaquin Welcome. Please read the room rules room-15.github.io
 
now in AppModule you need to tell dagger what class it will be @Injecting
in this case it would be your Application class probably
so you would do @Module(injects = MyApp.class)
 
That's D1 you talking about
 
correct
 
3:37 PM
maybe I should go with it first, because with Components like in D2 - interfaces I can't get it at all
 
I am trying to getting my head around Components as we speak
 
@codeMagic Thanks, I already did. I've joined this channel just because. No doubts about Android right now. It's a pleasure to belong here. I'll keep programming at my work right now. Cheers
 
@joaquin You don't need doubts to talk in here. You can help others or join in on a discussion about cats, unicorns, C&H, or ass bourbon
 
you know what - I'll go back to D1. A thought that if I learn Dagger let it be D2 already, since it emerged just fine at the day I started trying it
 
Also know that we remove access for people who don't use it. If that happens you can request again when you want to join a conversation
 
3:41 PM
Dagger 2 builds on top Dagger 1
 
@codeMagic Nice to know. Thank you, magic
 
he's cM
ok, so I've copied basic setup with AppModule
now I don't get how to use `@Provides `-annotated methods in objects that were injected (e.g. fragments and activities) if I don't want to store injected instance as a class field
 
orb, orb, orb
a capital I ?
 
See my edit. Lol!
 
I saw it
 
3:53 PM
I was doing stuff in JS and CF happened to take a break and saw that and seemed right in my head at the time. excuses excuses
 
lol
 
At least no one else will ever know what I did ;)
 
:)
 
@DenRimus I do not get what you mean
@nana, one good thing about Dagger 2, it supports method injection
 
how do I get something that is provided by @Provides-annotated method
 
3:57 PM
When is that useful?
 
it is useful if you need to register to some class
the class you a registering to is passed as a parameter to the method via Dagger, and then you pass this to some register()
@DenRimus you use @Inject
on the class that needs that dependency
 
o/ carl
 
o/
 
4:13 PM
hm. If My AppModule injects BaseFragment.class
And HomeFragment extends BaseFragment
do I still need to specify injects = { ... , HomeFragment.class } in module?
because if so - that's a pure shit. I have 100 fragments (e.g.) - lol, go list'em all
 
I need to study D2 > I need time > I need to finish this.
 
I created a library for that
basically you need to tell Dagger what you are injecting
when I was looking into it
it seemed that you needed to tell Dagger about all children
so what I do is, I create a Module per injectable thing (even if the module is empty)
then I tell its parent to inject the child by providing an instance of the module
it is hard to explain
you can look at the README of this repo
@DenRimus does it make sense?
 
Yay! Our internet is back!
Our power went out and we have backups for our computers but the internet was out
 
neighbor, you could have come over and used mine
 
What's the point of power with no internet?
 
4:25 PM
Well, it makes it easier to see the shot glass
 
Ah, should have thought about that neighbor.
 
no, but thanks for your help

half of day spent, so far I got that Dagger brings several new classes, tons of boilerplate (lol, that's an approach that supposed to remove this one) and the benefits are still not so clear

thanks but no thanks. Maybe we'll try again when there will be time particularly for this
DI stuff, because today I meant to be doing job for customer, and I did dagger-stuff
 
Chat was down though so I was just reading Feedly on my phone
 
Like I said, there is a learning curve with Dagger
but it provides a ton of good things
specially when it comes to testing
 
I just can't believe that 3000k+ start fir a lib that expects me to write
 
4:28 PM
The Android docs about memory management recommend against DI frameworks
I think I'm going to remind you of that the next time you complain about splashscreens Emm ;-)
 
It complains about DI frameworks that use extensive reflection
that is why it mentions Guice
 
@codeMagic are you going to give it a try as a moderator? PogChamp
 
injects = { ClassA.class, ClassB.class, ClassC.class, ... <100 hundred classes later> ClassWTF.class }
while all of them extend some BaseAlphabetClass that can be the one and only added to injects operation
Of cource if we talking scope-based Modules it's fine - several classes, no hard
but the app-scoped class, wtf, no really??
 
What are you talking about, Try me?
 
> However, these frameworks tend to perform a lot of process initialization by scanning your code for annotations, which can require significant amounts of your code to be mapped into RAM even though you don't need it.
 
4:31 PM
that's about runtime annotations Carl
 
right, it is mainly geared towards frameworks that do not generate code at compile time
 
Dagger does all job at compile
 
ah ok
 
that's why you need dagger-compiler dependency provided
 
4:32 PM
Yeah but what am I going to try?
 
really, a big disappointment today in dagger
later, people
 
See ya, Den
 
Being a moderator I quess, or you have been already?
 
You linked to my nomination so I have already begun to try :P
I'm not very confident about this year with some of the competition and only 3 spots this year.
 
oh lol! nice one dude congrats. I did think that this was actually a position and that the community would vote
 
4:35 PM
That's exactly how it works
 
Got confused since it says that elections begin in 5 days
 
Right now is the nomination phase. So whoever wants, nominates themselves and people can comment with questions, showing support, or showing lack of support. Voting will come soon
OH, gotchya.
 
Oh ok, so you are not yet officially moderator right?
 
Nope. I just nominated myself. Then people (like you) can vote for me next round (in 5 days)
Of this room but not of the site
 
Oh kk cool :p
 
4:39 PM
@MrEngineer13 do you know if they are going to support module overrides any time soon?
how would you test without overrides?
 
That's what I was wondering. The docs don't show anything about if they'll add it but I think you can achieve the same thing with components...maybe?
 
@Jace you don't meet the requirements for access, see the room rules
 
I guess so, I just finished watching the video
 
@Jase ^^
ftfy
"But more then anything, this is beyond frustrating! " but what's possibly more frustrating is seeing a bunch of duplicate answers because you didn't get the CV through in time. I feel your pain. — codeMagic 2 mins ago
Who wouldn't want that guy for moderator? Right?
 
I just realized that I have not thought about Jake Wharton for a month, until now that I watched his video
@Ahmad I challenge you!
 
4:57 PM
@Emmanuel who's he?
 
:/
 
No?
 
@codeMagic @CarlAnderson we need to update the rules
 
I'm still a mere mortal
 
it is imperative that all people requesting access know who JW is...
 
4:59 PM
what do we need to update?
lol
gingerbread (and thus ABS) is dead
what has Jake done for us lately?
 
how to use strikethrough here?
 
I still run Gingerbread :')
#ThugLife
 
ohhh please...., Carl
 
I can't afford a better phone
 
@cygery but like this
 
5:00 PM
I actually had to go back to my older one because the smartphone is so crappy :P
 
found it, thanks!
 
I saw that but I already went through the trouble helping you so your punishment was an unnecessary ping :P
 
I am disgusted by your lack of appreciation towards JW, Carl...
 
I accept this as a fair punishment ;)
 
it also tells me that you do not use any of his libs...
we cannot longer be friends
 
5:02 PM
So he's making android Libs..?
 
lol
I actually don't use any of his libs right now.
 
Now you tell me! I will have to change out the lib of his I'm using with something else
I didn't know it was that simple
 
@codeMagic I'm afraid he's willing to forgo his standards only for you. ;P
 
damn!
 
we were never friends cM
 
5:04 PM
OH, whew!
 
It ain't easy being the popular guy
 
I expect EVERYONE to use ButterKnife
 
@Emmanuel You were lovers?
 
what if I want to use OliveOilKnife instead?
 
"We weren't friends, I just stalked you for 4 years"
 
5:05 PM
well then you are limiting yourself Carl
 
@Emmanuel I haven't even looked at Dagger 2 yet sorry :( Might be a while before I do. Although, I'm about to head to Droidcon MTL so there might be a talk there? I'll try to attend if so :)
 
I am sure there has to be a talk there
 
I'm afraid I've never used a single lib :/ n00b life
 
are you bringing a gift for Jake, Adam?
he deserves no less...
 
"It hurts, but I'll do it for shrek JW"
 
5:13 PM
I will thank him for all of us at IO lol
 
Ha, no, I'm not :P
I'm not evne sure if I'm gonna attend his talk...
 
guys does any idea about this issue
Haven't got any response from them.
 
What the fuck is mipmap?
 
the new resource type used for launcher icons
 
new way to manage app icons
 
5:25 PM
wat
When did that happen?
 
I haven't the slightest
 
I'm so out of the loop. :(
 
I just created a new project and it showed up
 
And you want to moderate the Android tag... pshhht
3
 
5:26 PM
Who even thought of the name mipmap? It sounds like something a Pokemon would say
 
In 3D computer graphics, mipmaps (also MIP maps) are pre-calculated, optimized sequence of textures that accompany a main texture, each of which is a progressively lower resolution representation of the same image. The height and width of each image, or level, in the mipmap is a power of two smaller than the previous level. Mipmaps do not have to be square. They are intended to increase rendering speed and reduce aliasing artifacts. A high-resolution mipmap image is used for objects that are close to the user. Lower-resolution images are used as the object appears farther away. This is a mo...
They've been around a long time ;)
 
Learn something everyday, huh?
 
forget two things every day though
 
Yep!
That's unmaintainable!
 
whats up
 
5:38 PM
mipmaps are awesome
 
6:06 PM
1998 was 17 years ago. Live with that.
 
That fact...
I feel so old
 
grrrrrrrr
 
And one for Carl: 70 years has passed since the end of the great war!
 
I didn't even have a normal computer in these days…
 
Nice game with cool background music:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mediocre.smashhit
 
6:18 PM
1998, when I didn't know what "wannabe" was about about, "2 become 1" was a cute song and I mimicked the Dr. Jones MV in the ficus. Aahh.. to be retarded again...
 
Why have you awaken,oh ancient and wise one?
 
I'm looking for my walker, has anyone seen it?
 
6:34 PM
I was more of a win 95 gal
 
Well me too, in 1995. But W98 was pretty fucking sweet.
 
Internet Connection Sharing was the bomb
 
wasn't it win 98 who had that login bugg?
Paintshop pro bro!
 
Bug? Windows never had any bugs.
 
lol
 
6:37 PM
I was having a nostalgia trip about paintshop pro earlier today
 
C'mon android knowledge, get in mah bellay! I mean head.
 
TIL Greeks actually still use Greek alphabet. Bizzare.
 
Greaks speak greak? Say whaaat---
 
6:46 PM
Hey y'all :)
@nana do I get a circle yet?
 
Nope.
And hello :)
I can't just be giving out circles like it's nothing.
 
Awww, @nana we're bros :P
 
You have to prove yourself first man...
 
Fine storms off :P
 
Here, take this shank and get rid of Dave. Then we talk circles.
 
6:49 PM
@nana Internet Exploda!
 
takes shank and twirls it Gladly
 
> Internet Explorer, the best browser for downloading another browser since 1998.
 
@DaveS by the power vested in me from the Magic Realms of Lora Destsum, I summon the lord Dorbriatic into this knife. I CAST YOU TO HELL

*stabs @DaveS*
 
Dave isn't even here.
 
6:53 PM
raises hand I has a qwestion
Not anymore Carl
 
if it was that easy to get rid of Dave, we'd have done it a while ago, trust me ;-)
 
Damn
Can I ask for some help? :)
 
you can. You might not receive it.
 
Asking to ask if you can ask for help is counterproductive
Just ask the damn question!
 
6:57 PM
hope the question is not "how to get rid of Dave"
 
@codeMagic spoken like a true moderator of the people
 
I certainly do have the people's feelings in mind
 
can we make minimum API 17 yet?
 
I do min API 22, cuts on bug reports, crashes and all that shit.
 
So I separated my layout into two RelativeLayouts inside a main RelativeLayout. I converted one of the RelativeLayouts into an image and saved it. Basically before I did this it was all one layout inside one RelativeLayout and it looked fine. Now the top relativelayout goes into the lower one (like image number 1). Image number 2 shows the two separate layouts (the buttons down is seperate from the comic imageview up.

Image 1.) http://imgur.com/sFj9axq
Image 2.) http://imgur.com/JOgYvpQ

If you don't understand tell me and I can try to explain later. My BitBucket is https://bitbucket.or
Wait, that bitbucket didn't update
Hang on
That's latest ^
 
7:07 PM
Why can't you explain now if we don't understand?
 
Also what is the question?
 
Basically I don't know how to make the ImageView not bleed over the buttons and ad.
 
Wrap all three in a parent LL with vertical orientation then give each a weight and set height to "0dp"
 
cant get that "Search for more places" text style right
 
@TristanWiley On your first RL just have it align it's bottom to the top of your second layout
 
7:12 PM
@TristanWiley What do you want it to do if it doesn't fit on the screen? (in the provided space)
 
Scale so it fits... I believe
@MrEngineer13 trying that now
 
I'd jsut use LinearLayouts if I were you
 
@nana I will if this doesn't work :)
 
Meh across the board
 
 
7:18 PM
The comic was higher when I was using my previous code. :)
 
o/
 
Mornings
 
o/
 
Morning o/
 
anyone noticed that the Android docs' website design is a mess?
the downward arrow is out of place and it looks really annoying
 
7:21 PM
o/ PeeHaa, jyoon
 
Try tapping on it twice and spin around in your chair clockwise 48 degrees then see if you get a ticket to I/O
I can't find a down arrow anywhere on there site...link?
 
@NoobDoob denied for not meeting room criteria room-15.github.io
 
I lolled @ ass bourbon :)
 
7:36 PM
Oh, ass bourbon is no laughing matter. Trust me!
 
7:52 PM
cM, have you ever been in Russia? ;D
I think here are a lot of different kinds of ass bourbon
and not only ass
 
I have not but sounds like I should plan a trip :D
 
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Go tuck yourselves
 
Shaq is tucked as well
 
8:09 PM
@MrEngineer13 Shut the tuck up!
 
Who the fuck cares?
I'd rather have million bucks than look like millions bucks, ducks or fucks. Even tucks, fur fucks...take
 
it is also possible that someone tuck you into bed
 
uhul!
my dev tablet has finally been updated to Lollipop
 
8:27 PM
how do I root it now?
 
8:47 PM
I think I have a better understanding of Dagger 2 now
 
haven't checked it out much
 
scoping is a bit more complex than before
but it is better
 

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