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7:00 PM
didn't know dat
!!urban brain fart
 
@AdamBarak Brain Fart When you are attempting to remember something very obvious, someting that you know you should know. This feeling often leads to head banging and hair pulling.
 
user1596138
Alright. Same chick is pissing me off but now it's just bullshit
 
user1596138
Our computers face opposite directions. So naturally I'm not going to turn around and talk because I need to get my work done.
 
She wants you to text her when the boss texts you to text her that she has a new email
 
user1596138
She is insisting she can't hear me when I'm facing the other way, in a pedantic bullshit way. She's just trying to force me to look at her while I talk to her which is not necessary and in fact counterproductive.
 
7:03 PM
@AbhishekHingnikar I don't get why it's funny.
 
@Jhawins MAN I LOVE YOU!!!!
 
user1596138
We're 5 feet away from each other. No matter how loud I am she'll just totally ignore what I say and go "I can't hear you facing the other way"
 
I have been trying to explain that to so many people lately!
 
Then say somethign offensive to catch her hearing you
 
@Jhawins yeah, that is just ignorant or she's trying to manipulate you, just send her an email next time
@Luggage that's just stupid
 
7:05 PM
Not like 'get fired' offensive..
 
user1596138
@luggage yup, that's what I did. She said I'll be alone tomorrow and I -quieter than usual- said "good" and she heard me.
 
@SecondRikudo codeschool?
 
@ziGi or 'get banned' offensive.
 
Or just don't wash yourself for 2 weeks and grow pimples
 
@Jhawins yes, because bitchy girls make you repeat stuff so you can change your mind, not because they didn't hear you or something, they want to be respected and agreed with what they said, otherwise they are unhappy
I have been in such a dramatic situation
 
user1596138
7:06 PM
If a problem arises I'm in the clear. The boss has specifically told her not to distract me. She loves small talk and I'm just not for it, especially when I'm working.
 
I hate drama
I just walk
I just don't interact with dramatic people
 
I just decided to ignore one bitchy girl and she told me to look her in the eyes while she's talking to me, cause I was like watching 9gag on my phone or something
 
If I really have to interact with dramatic people I usually troll them
 
user1596138
@zigi this is in no way similar to that lol.
 
and I didn't and she started crying
 
7:07 PM
Trolling dramatic people is fun, you go with their drama.
 
user1596138
Those people are crazy
 
I don't know the English term for it - but basically you agree with everything they say and encourage them and see how far they take it
 
user1596138
This girl is just entitled
 
real life trolls
 
and her boyfriend started consolidating her by saying she's the best, and then I just burst into mad laughter
 
7:07 PM
You apologize for not speaking to her face and act really nice to her
 
user1596138
You sound like a prick @zigi. That's not productive.
 
Tell her how smart she is and how amazing she is
 
Consolidating?
 
Apologize again
Tell her she deserves better than the job she got
She should ask for more stuff at work
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum haha yeah, why should I, she should learn that she's not the most important person in the room, Jesus is!
 
7:08 PM
@ziGi that's not funny
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum ahahaha that's just mean
 
user1596138
No matter what I'm not siding with you and you know that. No matter what.
 
@Jhawins ahaha :D
 
You have two choices, you either confront a dramatic person or you let someone else confront them
 
well she dominates her boyfriend to agree with her, how productive is that?
 
7:09 PM
If someone else confronts them - it better be funny
 
user1596138
:P
 
Is he her boyfriend?
 
yes
 
user1596138
Eh that could be offensive
 
exactly
 
user2620028
7:09 PM
What conversation did i just come back to :/
 
:D
 
@ziGi Why is he engaged to her in the first place?
I'd just tell her to fuck off
 
user1596138
And doesn't really make sense. I like girls.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum Is it free?
 
cause he likes drama apparently, I don't know
 
7:10 PM
@Jhawins It sure could be, but in that context it was clear that's not waht you meant.
 
It apparently seems so
 
He is a colleague of mine, the one that makes promises with 100ms setInterval
 
hahaha fuck that
 
and he gets really offended when I don't respect his ideas and the way he tells me to do stuff
 
@SecondRikudo I think so, there are too good python books but I think an interactive online tutorial is easier
 
7:10 PM
:D
 
100ms for setInterval is dumb
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum codeschool doesn't have python
 
he got offended that I used promises instead of using his 100ms method checking all ajax requests in the queue
 
humans are far less perceptive to higher times
 
well we use ZF1 so you can imagine that only the framework bootstrap time is ~200-300ms
 
7:11 PM
@SecondRikudo codeacademy then?
 
we have no request under 250ms
 
Not sure, Python is really easy to learn, the best way to learn coding is to actually code
 
for realz
 
Give them assignments
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum Benjamin, I totally agree with you man
 
7:12 PM
@SecondRikudo RocketU!
 
but... it is imperceptible man xD
 
same goes for human languages, you should first learn to speak and say stuff and then learn grammar, not the other way around
 
happy to work alone :D
one day I'll be a boss, never the one who works under a boss
I just wouldn't handle it
it's me
 
Man, I told my colleague he is a pussy once because he was talking under his nose 10 meters away from me, and he got really mad that I can't talk to him at my working place like this
at least I have heard it from a few
saying they won't work for the corporations but for themselves or with friends
 
@ziGi Turkish and Jewish people are alike in many regards
 
We also have families pushing for studies like Jewish parents do. And we should do the best
 
You mean like how they're people?! awww shiii
 
@SterlingArcher shit don't blow our cover
 
ahahaha
guys you are just amusing
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum shhhhh we're covering you!!
:D
 
7:16 PM
Racism sucks :D
 
Sucks major balls.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum it isn't racism if the person saying it doesn't think so. didn't you know?
 
@rlemon I hate two things - racists and the Dutch
 
well in this book I told you about "THE JEWS, THE WORLD AND MONEY" BY JACQUES ATTALI (who is french from jewish descent) tells that jewish people are only happy if all the rest around them are happy which I think is a good quality
@BenjaminGruenbaum haha why do you hate the Dutch :D
 
It's a movie quote
 
7:17 PM
Many Turks have Jewish heritage and viceversa
 
@Shmiddty Groovy baby
very shagadelic baby, yeah!
 
@AdamBarak Everyone has a boss. Even if it's a 'client' there is some jerk that you have to listen to and not piss off.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum ahahaha oh ma belly
 
user1596138
Shagadelica killed a girl at burning man :(
 
7:19 PM
@Luggage Well, that client will be outsourced to someone, I won't do the work for him
 
@Zirak in his defense..
> That was a great stake.
lol
 
I noticed that. And it annoyed SomeGuy. So I refused to change it.
 
haha the steak was great!
 
great stake
 
7:21 PM
yeah, great one.
 
Do you want to meat
 
 
2.9
 
user1596138
I can't use this room because so many stupid pictures are oneboxed and I use chat at work. Thanks @Zigi
 
7:24 PM
just a heads-up based on the discussions I was having here earlier; it turns out that balpha's changes to the security model specifically target the "we can't kick trouble-makers so we'll to terrible things with auto-grant" scenario
8
 
user1596138
(yes, it's only your fault even if others did it)
 
I move like water, I go with the flow, I go back to old school, I go back to Rome.
 
so: nothing for me to do there; balpha has it in hand
 
@MarcGravell thanks - that's awesome to hear.
We really hate the terrible mute stuff.
 
I did nothing ;p
 
7:25 PM
@MarcGravell nice
 
user1596138
@MarcGravell Great news! You get credit as the messenger ;)
 
Why did you reset my account Marc why? :(
 
@MarcGravell I mean, check out the last 50 messages or so - there's racism, dumb unrelated stuff and so on - we pretty much moved the more intelligent discussion to the EcmaScript room that's more strict in users.
 
uhm, link to relevant stuff?
 
I have no reputation left :(
help plizzzzz
 
7:26 PM
12 mins ago, by ziGi
@AdamBarak you sound like a jewish person
 
Well, I think the problem is that people are being "censured" by mute instead of ignored by other, it's not like there isn't a button for that, but the owners prefer to piss off people by muting them. If there is no one near a falling tree does it make a sound?
 
Yes.
 
quite funny that the only one saying that is the guy being muted half the time
 
@Retsam Thank you for the compliment
no no no no no noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooope
 
@ziGi "People" is plural
 
7:27 PM
@BenjaminGruenbaum oh yes, regarding that topic, how can I gain access there?
 
this site doesn't exist anymore osiris-sps.org
:(
well it does but gives 502
 
@ziGi you realize the room was made specifically because you annoyed the regulars in this room right?
 
@Zirak where didn't I use plural
 
there was something interseting to learn for SE developers
 
@MarcGravell So, when can we expect this changes? 6-8 weeks?
 
7:28 PM
"Hey, I didn't follow the rules, so I'll insult those who enforce them"
 
user1596138
@ziGi Normally the tree only gets to fall once. Instead we set you back up like 6 times or something lol
 
user1596138
Eh, torture right? Bet you wish you knew what I said Zigi...
 
user1596138
!!afk done today
 
leave zigi, you guys
 
@AdamBarak are you his alt account?
 
7:31 PM
he is being great
 
@AdamBarak Sorry, but we disagree.
 
@FlorianMargaine wanna check my IP?
 
LEAVE ZIGI ALONE! (S)HE'S GOING THROUGH A HARD TIME!!
 
no I'm not
 
@MarcGravell serious question if you have some time to look into it -- I've asked in Tavern on the Meta a few times and no one has given me a straight answer.
 
7:31 PM
@AdamBarak I know about proxies too...
 
@AdamBarak You were awfully quick with that defense.
 
proxies can be trasversed
 
nom. hai and bai. food is ready.. pizzaaa!
 
Almost as if you had it prepared
 
no it's just that you're not fair. he's stopped ok? don't treat him like shit
prepared...
 
7:32 PM
@AdamBarak oh? how? honest, I don't know how to do that
 
@FlorianMargaine Take a lesson from the NSA, they also trasverse Tor nodes :-)
 
I've always seen it in movies but ditched it as movie stuff (i.e. the land where IPs are 843.2345.32.456)
 
@AdamBarak But he hasn't stopped
 
There's plenty of articles if you can search for that
 
@AdamBarak I think this room has been more than fair.
 
7:33 PM
> the owners prefer to piss off people by muting them.
 
@AdamBarak so you can't explain it in simple terms? :(
 
this is awesome
 
sounds like you know it's possible but don't know how it actually works
 
@FlorianMargaine I once hacked into 127.0.0.1
So much porn
 
@FlorianMargaine Yes that, I've never chimed in
 
7:34 PM
@Zirak bet you ran format c: on that machine
 
let me find that article..
 
@AdamBarak fair enough
@Zirak horse porn?
 
@FlorianMargaine Even some foal porn
 
@Zirak oooh dirty. That gets you on NSA lists though, be careful.
 
I nominate Zirak to speak on behalf of JavaScript. — Sterling Archer 6 secs ago
:3
Only because "motherfucking" would be every other word of your TV special. XD
 
7:35 PM
hackertarget.com/tor-exit-node-visualization/
 
In before
 
I doubt ziGi and Adam are the same person; they have a private chatroom together: chat.stackoverflow.com/rooms/60567/room-for-zigi-and-adam-barak
 
@SterlingArcher Come at me biatch
 
that's never good
 
@FlorianMargaine If you have the time you can manually track the location of a Tor exit node based on map locations and handful of other info
 
7:37 PM
I remember some dudes conspiring against the C# room in a 'private' room once.
 
that wasn't the article though, I'm looking for the other one
 
'conspiring'?
Like, were they going to stage a coup?
 
@AdamBarak thanks
 
Ironically enough most Tor nodes are "Geolocated" near the French coast
 
i don't remember exactly, but they were going to spam a lot of stuff
 
7:39 PM
@FlorianMargaine You're welcome
 
@KendallFrey ?
 
@Zirak "first you declare those MOTHERFUCKING variables.." lol
 
star spam was the start of it all
 
I read through the "private" room; nothing interesting
 
star spam?
 
7:40 PM
@SterlingArcher Seriously though, I've got nothing interesting to show.
 
See what I just did?
That was star spam on that message
 
"Philosophy light"? wtf am I going to do?
 
@AdamBarak people starring/unstarring every message in the room
 
Now imagine that on 50 messages all the time
 
wtf
 
7:40 PM
@Zirak I find you interesting :(
 
and why? were they being epileptic?
 
Didn't I write a script to neutralise that?
 
that's sketchy as hell
 
@SterlingArcher Because of my code beefs or because I yell at you to do <code philosophy X Y Z>?
 
I wish I spelled things with an "s" instead of a "z". It looks so wrong, but it feels so right.
 
7:41 PM
p.s. Florian, look at the concentration of Tor nodes
 
The latter!
ladder?
 
You tell em :)
 
lmao
totally did that too
you were being a dick for a like a month
 
you are the Steve?
 
7:42 PM
Steve are you the one we all freaked out over for god knows what reason?
 
this one I mean
 
@Steve oh come on, it never really stopped
 
@SterlingArcher probably
 
@AdamBarak so, mostly paris/london
 
7:42 PM
Exactly.
 
kendall kept deleting peoples stars for no reason (okay, he MAY have had a valid reason some of the time), so me and this other dude kept harassing him with random stars
 
I did a test and in the CLI I can see that Tor nodes are indeed being exchanged with an higher frequency from Europe
 
i could have handled it better, but nevertheless it was fun
 
Steve kept starring peoples messages for no reason....
 
someones star bot was the reason I wrote my chat monitor
 
7:43 PM
lmao
because you kept deleting them!
you son of a bitch
 
now I can call people out for doing dumb shit
 
because you kept starring everything
 
recursion
 
At least you're a decent guy now
 
@rlemon what was the question?
 
7:44 PM
Never heard back from Nadal/Raynos/hamburger
 
In related news:
 
@MarcGravell do you remember a little bit back when there was the user creating many accounts, setting the display pic to a swastika and joining popular rooms?
 
When I have free time I'm going to build a script that (at least approximately) "geolocates" a Tor node. I need it for my site too
 
lmao
@Zirak hilarious.
 
@rlemon I am aware of it, yes
 
7:45 PM
@Steve You should date Zirak. You'd make a perfectly matching couple.
 
@AdamBarak cool stuff :)
 
Yeah :-)
 
@Steve Hi Steve, I'm Zirak, 94 year old from Antartica. a/s/l?
 
@MarcGravell well balpha changed the gravatars to a rainbow flag. was that set up as a flag in the system ?? because I've noticed users joining the chat (new users) with that gravatar assigned automatically
 
we should totally date, will you e-date me, because thats not pathetic
 
7:46 PM
facebook is down
 
@rlemon I'm not going to answer that
5
 
@AbhishekHingnikar I think this statement is backwards: "Photo Sharing in built !"
 
@MarcGravell haha awesome
 
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Q: 1 week+ since joining and I still have the default LGBT flag as chat avatar

Adam BarakI joined 1 week+ ago and come regularly to chat room. The problem is that my avatar in chat has never been changed from a LGBT flag despite having had a different avatar since joining, and the LGBT flag can be seen as offensive or rude to many people who have nothing to do with it. Nonetheles...

 
however, balpha's current changes will include new ways of preventing problematic users
 
7:46 PM
so potentially problematic users are joining, and no one will give me a straight answer ??
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum productivity level in the world suddenly rises
 
Now I understand what's the reason...
 
@rlemon i see what you did there
 
it happened in the Javascript chat room only?
 
@rlemon You know the answer.
 
7:48 PM
@MarcGravell well can you at least answer: should anyone be made aware of said users when they join? because historically the ones I've looked at later in time have been suspended or deleted
or have continued to be bothersome in the chat system
 
it is entirely possible that some are false positives
 
img.ifcdn.com/images/… wow that got annoying quick
 
it is also entirely possible that they continue to be the same problematic user
 
No big deal, just a dog riding a dolphin.
 
it would be nice to have gotten some feedback from mods in the Tavern. you are the first one to even respond to me (for this question)
 
7:49 PM
well... if you phrase a question like "what are you using for that signal?" I can fully respect people being a little cagey on answer that...
 
well I explained why I was asking, and worded it in the way I am now
"should people be made aware? is this a red flag for mods? can I be helpful removing the problems from the chat rooms I'm frequently in?"
 
cagey as in... nick.. cagey?
 
it was also implemented as a dev thing; it is entirely possible that the mods simply don't know the answer
 
Don't be silly. Blue names know everything.
 
@MarcGravell Devs tend to not last here for very long. You'd be surprised but they're usually bombarded with questions about the chat itself and rarely get to talk about programming or JS... So.. nothing like what you're experiencing :D
 
7:51 PM
@MarcGravell if you are curious, I'm personally invested in this because one or more of said users has taken this off site and stalked me on social media (it has since stopped, but still.. wtf)
 
^ it was hours and hours if not days of stalking
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum in fairness, after a day or so said bombardment would die down
we're just banking questions for them :P
@SterlingArcher try over a period of like 2 months
 
It went on that long?
Send a bull after him
 
stopped for a few weeks than started up again
 
FlorianMargaine Seems like the NSA used a man-in-the-middle attack, monitored every Tor exit node, waited that they browsed a page and then redirected them to a page where they set up a tracking trap where they could leak info about the user such as the IP (I think). It's a joke to track them when they got their IP
 
7:54 PM
@rlemon that sucks; I don't have an easy answer to that, but some people are simply anti-social and will look for any excuse for a fight
if we've done anything that contributed to that, then: sorry
but: I think they were probably "out" for an arbitrary fight anyway, and any excuse is incidental
 
@AdamBarak yeah... so tor nodes are not really "hard" to set up, i.e. if you got the timing right, a MITM attack is conceptually simple
what about proxy traversing?
 
@MarcGravell I got racist hate mail at my company's feedback form. We all had a beer and laughed at it. The user threatened to DDOS us.
We found the notion of someone DDOS'ing azure quite hilarious, but sadly they didn't follow through.
 
@MarcGravell just a heads up: I read that SE only has 25 servers. That's a pretty amazing engineering feature considering the millions of views you guys get.
 
what was their gripe? also: note that again - any excuse they are claiming here is probably entirely incidental; I strongly suspect that they simply wanted to make a noise, and you happened to exist
@FlorianMargaine define "servers"; the main web-site runs on 9 servers; another 2 run "meta", which exist for staging / validation
 

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