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user3010322
12:00 AM
Well, that's nice of them.
 
@ThePhD No.
@ThePhD Integers and strings.
 
user3010322
@Rapptz I think we can support it. :3
 
don't
 
user3010322
What's the worst that could happen?
 
you wasting time because I'm not gonna accept it
 
user3010322
12:05 AM
:(
 
user3010322
Well, what else is missing from sol after member variables?
 
nothing
I don't think so anyway
I felt complete 63 commits ago
so
yeah
 
user3010322
Oh.
 
Ell
Fork it, add your crazy and call it phsol
 
jesus my code is getting more and more complicated and it's just stupid versioning
 
12:08 AM
ITT Cat's finally losing it.
 
lol
 
user3010322
Well, I'm trying to think of legitimate features which'd be useful...
 
user3010322
I've been combing through other lua wrappers, seeing what services they provide.
 
pretty much impossible at this point
 
user3010322
I see this thing about "lua modules" on some, but
 
user3010322
12:10 AM
I can't find any good examples of what they are / what they're supposed to do.
 
user3010322
Is it like the os thing you made @Rapptz ?
 
Ell
I know what you desperately need
Which I would like to see
And would make it loads better
 
user3010322
Hookers?
 
Ell
Unless youve already done it and I'm out of date
 
12:11 AM
it's 2am
 
Ell
@thephd documentation :p
 
why do you talk about code
 
user3010322
@Ell There's plenty of documentation, and samples!
 
user3010322
Also I fuckin' hate writing documentation.
 
user3010322
12:12 AM
Fuck that shit.
 
Ell
Is there? I'm outdated then. Where are API docs?
Or samples
 
@Rapptz thank god
 
user3010322
@BartekBanachewicz :(((
 
user3010322
But doesn't it sound cool?!
 
user3010322
@Ell sol/examples
 
12:13 AM
I've told you countless times what I do think about your concept of cool
 
user3010322
:c
 
user3010322
Well, hey.
 
user3010322
Does having member variables in lua sound pretty nice?
 
Ell
I'm thinking about futures atm
Cooperatively multitasking futures
 
using sad faces just makes me want plonk you again
 
user3010322
12:14 AM
Nooo don't plonk.
 
Ell
Lua is terrible anyway imho :P it's the type thing that bugs me so much
 
Maybe I should give up and just make another set of models for revisions
 
Ell
Everything is a primitive or a table
 
you have a capacity for a reasonable talk of a 6yearold
 
Ell
It sucks to debug something you don't know the codebase of because you can't look up what variables are
 
12:15 AM
Er what
Oh okay
Nvm
 
Cat we should learn F#, it looks absolutely awesome.
 
it really isn't
 
It's not Haskell, therefore sucks.
 
too bad it's such a disappointment
 
Ell
12:17 AM
@bartek what is the +1 for?
 
maybe the expectations were too high
 
The only downside I have seen thus far is that editing it in VS is not as nice as writing C#
 
But more models is even more complicated restore
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes do you write it?
 
And relations
Fucking hell
 
12:18 AM
@Ell not arguing with people not knowing what they are talking about
@R.MartinhoFernandes seriously
 
No, I just got the issue with delay
 
@JohanLarsson Used it for a while some years ago. It's nice.
 
@JohanLarsson the language has a few dings that annoy me
 
F# doesn't look bad
 
yes it doesn't look bad that's the point
 
12:20 AM
lol
 
@JohanLarsson this applies to pretty much everything
 
I'm going all-in on this solution gods have mercy on whoever is going to maintain this
 
F# is basically a descendant of ML. Haskell is basically a descendant of the lazy variant of ML. IOW, F# is a whole lot like Haskell without lazy evaluation.
 
11 mins ago, by R. Martinho Fernandes
ITT Cat's finally losing it.
 
and without immutability
 
12:20 AM
Called it.
 
which makes it really weird to write in for me
 
Irish I were drunk
 
Haskell is pretty clear in that regard: everything is immutable
 
But that'd be third day in a row so
 
@BartekBanachewicz I know very little, guess I'll find out about them in a couple of years
 
12:21 AM
@BartekBanachewicz Nonsense
 
@JerryCoffin It seems like F# does have lazy evaluation. Just not by default.
 
in F# I am not sure and having to constantly wonder about that is not helping me solve problems
 
@Rapptz what do you mean?
 
I don't see anything immediately wrong with that
 
@CatPlusPlus we're talking non-monadic lenses at most here
 
Ell
12:21 AM
What are you writing cat? Automatic versioning for vcs or something?
 
@Rapptz That wouldn't surprise me.
 
ST, IO
 
yeah that's really a different thing
 
Not really
 
In F# the code is in implicit StateT IO a
 
12:22 AM
@JohanLarsson Comparing VS's C# support to everything else will just lead to disappointment.
 
Immutable by default, mutable by default, w/e
 
or rather RWST IO a
implicit RWST IO everywhere is meh.
 
@Rapptz yeah
 
I didn't feel comfortable.
 
All that is moot because I'm not writing anything in F# or Haskell so what do I care
 
12:23 AM
@BartekBanachewicz So, basically, it's not Haskell.
 
I mean that's just my impression after short period of coding
 
@Rapptz Not if you compare it to R#.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes No, I just didn't like it. What the fuck is so hard to get here.
 
Well yeah.
 
I PERSONALLY didn't like the language.
 
12:24 AM
Okay I need a break
 
after a SHORT coding session
 
Because it's not Haskell, right?
 
fuck you
 
I did almost 10hrs for Monday
 
lol
 
12:24 AM
That's like 10 Mondays usually
 
Ell
Why is everyone so angry on the internet? :P
 
because robot is mocking me
 
Maybe I'll finally bounce off from that stupid June
Who needs sanity when you have money
 
People that want to keep those money.
 
I like that mic mute and speaker mute keys have leds on my laptop
I also love my laptop
DESPITE THE FACT MY LAPTOP IS NOT HASKELL YOU SEE
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Ell
12:26 AM
I love mt new mattress
 
well some 'insane' people keep their money, it's the stupid people who lose it
 
@BartekBanachewicz Things you can say about your laptop but not your girlfriend
 
Ouch.
 
Ell
Hehe
 
12:27 AM
@CatPlusPlus :D
 
Oh come on nobody gets the reference you all suck
 
I did.
That's why I laughed.
 
Good :v
 
Ell
I don't have a girlfriend
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"you can fit four in here" still wins the internet.
 
12:28 AM
genius are all 'insane', because dumb people are trained to think the same way
 
@chmod711telkitty you're not a genius HTH
 
didn't say I am, don't stress out about it
 
treat that as an inb4
 
@CatPlusPlus What's that?
 
12:30 AM
Whose Line is it Anyway
 
you know
this metro/desktop thing is pretty nice
 
The show where points are like rep on SO
 
I forgot the line :|
 
Ell
12:31 AM
@rapptz I like the "you just brought me to tears" on the pizza offer
 
> where everything's made up and the points don't matter!
 
That looks like a horrible waste of screen space.
That means something, coming from me.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes you mean the weather app? it scrolls right and gives way more info
 
@Rapptz perfectly readable to me
 
what you see is kinda title screen
 
12:33 AM
Oh god, I'm becoming a bartek
 
@Jefffrey Nah.
 
@BartekBanachewicz That's not a very big screen.
 
I just found it funny coming from someone who uses Scheme of all things.
 
@BartekBanachewicz It could just use all that empty space to give it right away.
 
@Rapptz if you can't read it then you really suck
@Mysticial 12.5"
 
@BartekBanachewicz :)
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes it's really one flick of a finger
 
It's also a browser window that could use the extra space.
 
uh the point of that is to quickly get some info from metro apps
 
Ell
12:36 AM
I just got my ex girlfriend to give me a free drink
 
way to go
 
@Ell You're doing it wrong
 
and yes the map changes its size to fit the window size
 
Good night everybody.
 
12:37 AM
@BartekBanachewicz Your battery is low
 
so you can dynamically move the black bar and the metro content will respond
 
Ell
Night jefffers
 
@Mysticial I'm charging it
@Jefffrey night
 
Ell
It's not like barteks browser needs to he bigger anyway
 
:)
 
Ell
12:38 AM
Chat doesnt need much space
 
it gets really nice when you click on said map
 
@Ell Yes it does - if you wanna see the starboard.
 
you can zoom and move it around without messing up the browser
@Mysticial :P
 
I have trouble seeing the entire starboard on my 17 in. laptop.
 
@Bartek what computer did you get?
 
12:39 AM
@JohanLarsson Thinkpad Yoga
 
Ell
Starboard is fair point
I'm on mobile, I don't get to see it at all :'(
 
you can get to starred posts somehow I think
there should be a button for that
btw I have to admit that having a physical keyboard is really nice
I've kept it bent a way, but typing vertically is more tedious even when lying flat
 
Ell
I'm gonna sleep
I have hours of painting walls to do tomorrow
At just above minimum wage
 
wait
@Ell so you didn't get that job?
 
Ell
Pretty good pay for what I'm doing :P
@bartek unfortunately not. But I'm pleased I even go to that stage anyway
But it was a scholarship for uni anyway :)
 
12:44 AM
@Ell i see
 
Ell
Also it's only my parents paying me to paint :L
I've never had a real job
But I'm looking into transcribing
I'm learning to format properly
Anyway sleepy time. Night!
 
1:05 AM
@Mysticial Obviously you need to quit using laptops.
 
user3010322
1:26 AM
@Mysticial Even on my slightly larger, same. I need to get a bigger one that's 1920 x 1080.
 
I never found that to be a problem
 
@JerryCoffin I don't use laptops except when I'm traveling. :)
Laptops suck.
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staryes
 
@ThePhD My current laptop is 1920x1080, and IMO, the vertical resolution of 1080 is the bare minimum to qualify as even marginally usable (but it is still only marginally usable -- 1200 vertical is substantially better, even at the expense of lower horizontal resolution (e.g., 1600x1200 is clearly superior to 1920x1080).
@Mysticial Cute, but would there really be any question other than: "how can I disqualify myself from this site?"
 
I think my productivity when using laptop is ~30% of what it is when using stationary
 
user3010322
1:37 AM
@JerryCoffin Yeah, the lack of vertical resolution is what's driving me nuts. :( I want 1920 x 1200 on a laptop. I was so used yo my last laptop's 1920 x 1080 that this 1600 x 900 bullshit is making me vomit.
 
@ThePhD IMO, 1600x900 is usable only as an auxiliary monitor (e.g., using Photoshop, put all the menus and crap on it, with the picture being edited on the real monitor).
 
user3010322
@JerryCoffin I have a TV as a second monitor, but it's so big the 1920 x 1080 looks kinda weird on it.
 
If you're not doing things that can be split that way, the only good use of a 1600x900 monitor seems to be as a paperweight.
@ThePhD For the distance at which a computer monitor is normally used, a dot pitch larger than around .25mm starts to become seriously problematic.
 
@JerryCoffin get laid
now gimme all the upboats
and on that boring note, goodnight!
 
@Borgleader That's merely a shorter way of saying "disqualify myself from this site".
Good night.
 
2:11 AM
cool
still not sure what's wrong with the github issue tracker
well. I guess lack of priority is a big one and inability to close bugs as dupes..
 
Last time I checked couldn't assign issues to people unless they had write access
It's just really primitive
Also no custom fields, just labels
 
2:33 AM
I'm okay w/ labels.
not really a problem tbh
the two things above are the only things I dislike
 
3:08 AM
forever alone
 
me abseiling last weekend
 
me sitting on a chair yesterday
I'm retarded. I know.
I wonder if I got flagged for lame wannabe trolling.
 
3:24 AM
Is Python a language worth learning in terms of popularity and potential opportunities for jobs?
 
Yeah, at least for jobs. Loads of jobs in South Asia. Don't know about other places.
 
That's nice. I am mainly looking in the U.S. though.
 
I don't know. Depends on how much off-shoring the U.S has done. Most of the jobs in South Asia are because of US companies.
 
As for popularity. Currently, Python seems to be the sixth most popular language according to this
right after C++
Why is the room so inactive, I wonder.
 
3:42 AM
Any idea how to solve my problem?
 
Sorry, buddy. I'm just a clueless n00b so no idea.
Also, isn't that Java?
 
Yes, but I'm looking for the solution in any language
the sample code is in Java, yes
 
Don't worry, someone will probably answer it in a few hours.
 
3:56 AM
By the way, the room description isn't funny at all. What happened to the awesome ones from the good old days?
@Mysticial lol. Finally a Q&A for losers like me.
 
@ApprenticeHacker that site's pretty terrible
cause it uses searches to check popularity
and using C programmer ends up with C++, C, C#, etc
 
I see. I apologize for posting it then.
 
don't be
it also lists it in the bottom lol
> "C" named languages are something of a problem. Queries for "C" tend to return results for C# and C++ as well. One way of dealing with this would be to run queries like this: C -C# -C++, however, that unfairly penalizes pages that contain discussions of both C and C++. The D programming language suffers from a similar problem (it tends to be confused with "3-d programming", so we tweaked some of the searches to account for this, and use "D programming language" where appropriate.
 
I see. C is still on top, though. Whether due to this issue or otherwise, I don't know.
 
eh doubt it's on top
I'd wager JavaScript is
 
4:04 AM
Yeah. I know it's used a lot for embedded systems etc. I looked up the course outlines for my electrical engineering program and a lot of the courses use C. But that's pretty much it nowadays.
 
setting their bogus results to 0 in the normalised category
 
You're right. It's either Javascript or the Python, Ruby clan.
 
you end up with JavaScript on top
it looks more realistic
 
sorta anyway
 
4:06 AM
Why does objective-C dominate on Github, I wonder
iOS development, perhaps?
 
more than likely
Objective-C is really only used for Apple related stuff
 
yeah. Not really popular for other stuff.
Does Shell even count as a programming language?
I like how there's an SE site for Electrical Engineering but not one for Mechanical Engineering. lol.
 
4:47 AM
I want a SE site for architecture.
 
user1804599
5:21 AM
@pilkch Area 51
 
user3010322
6:03 AM
WPF. ;~;
 
6:52 AM
spilled coffee on my shirt
really good way to start the day
 
@gor grody!
 
user1804599
7:09 AM
@AlexM. have my shirt.
 
why, thank you
 
user1804599
why not? no thanks
 
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Q: What is the purpose of using the word "why" in "why, thank you"?

kiamlalunoI sometimes have heard somebody replying with Why, thank you. instead of Thank you. What is the meaning of the first phrase? What is the difference between the two phrases?

 
flatout UC has probably the best rock soundtrack I've heard in a game
 
@AlexM. If you like that maybe you also like some old Swedish punk
 
7:20 AM
enqueued
 
@TonyTheLion That could be summarized as s/why/well/ for this usage
 
user1804599
Tests y u so slow.
 
user1804599
Fuck cloning the test database before every goddamn test.
 
user1804599
And fuck old code.
 
@JohanLarsson that sounds really good :O
 
7:25 AM
guise
 
Sounds fake to me. I told my father, "Happy Birthday". He answered, "Why, thank you, Scott." It felt condescending. — user55782 Nov 6 '13 at 13:51
the fuck
 
he probably had something like "why, you little piece of shit" in mind :A
 
he's probably a moron
 
oh, it's ok people panic over. I was fearing that last straw had been rammed into my eye. Got wiff of a (luckily wrong) rumour that despite now using Java 7 vms, we had to keep to Java 6 code
 
Java introduced new features between Java 6 and Java 7?
 
7:34 AM
> PHP Percent not work. Please
 
Why do we have and ?
 
presumably because someone created them
 
lol
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Q: std::array vs classic array[].. Hell! How does that work?

Iago-litoI keep reading on this amazing new std::array feature that came with C++11. And I.. keep having a hard time believing it. So it appears that std::array<int, 4> a; is.. as light as int a[4]; in terms of memory, and that it is.. as fast in terms of reading and writing, more safe as far as memory m...

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How'd I miss this one
 
@Puppy Yes, it did.
 
Java has features?
 
7:47 AM
@TonyTheLion Yes, it does.
Seriously, though, C++ ecosystem should be envious about the amount of useful libraries there are for Java.
 
Ode to c++ from a C programmer. Ah. The feels.
Wait until he gets a week or so underway :|
 
Xeo
@Rapptz Ohey, a reasonable guy coming to C++ from C. Rare species.
 
he said in the comments he came from Python et al
 
Xeo
We should capture and breed them, before they die out.
 
TIL the word "lachrymose".
 
7:59 AM
is the R9 290 the only 512 bit card in its price range? O_o
all nVidias there are 256 bit
the first 512 bit nvidia with 4G VRAM I found is twice the price of a R9 290
 
the bitness is probably not so important.
 
was just making the remark, I felt kinda surprised
 
seems like nVidia put it on cards that need it and ATi tries to use it as a marketing gimmick
 
does it not provide a performance boost regardless?
 
hah
almost certainly not.
 
8:18 AM
o/
 
Win 8 always delivers the happiest news
also missed the chance to make an oDesk joke :(
 
@AlexM. 512 bit ?
 
the BUS thingy or whatever it is
 
user1804599
7 secs ago, by rightfold
I wonder what would happen if …
 
user1804599
hihi
 
8:29 AM
are you trying to hack SO?
 
@AlexM. oh that. I thought you were speaking about wavefront size
 
well in theory 512 bit cards can move (not sure if the term is appropriate) twice as much data in a timeframe than 256 bit cards
so that's why I thought for 4GB cards 256 might be bottleneck-y?
 
@Xeo I doubt that getting this lyrical about std::array bodes for a reasonable C guy...
 
I don't know hardware :(
 
@AlexM. and then the obvious question to ask is "how much data does the card need to move in order to keep the rest of the gpu busy" :)
 
8:33 AM
I don't think transfer speeds are a problem
It's already fairly difficult to reach peak bandwidth
ICBWT
 
8:44 AM
48 secs ago, by sehe
8 secs ago, by sehe
Nice work, yo. Scala too boring?
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Now, that's clearly a rendering bug
 
Xeo
@jalf That being the important question. If the card can shuffle around 1Gbps, but the GPU can only handle 256bps, well...
 
@Xeo ... then you need a faster GPU ;)
 
user1804599
@sehe Scala is nice.
 

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