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Sam
4:02 PM
Oh man... no activity for 2 days...
 
 
1 hour later…
5:24 PM
Oh man, I feel alone.
 
Sam
6:19 PM
Oh man, it's gonna hit 32 degrees Friday.
 
you need to classify that for all the 'Mericans
 
6:55 PM
Ít did hit 30 degrees here (40 in my car)
 
Sam
7:06 PM
@Kylar Forgot you guys still use Fahrenheit, so that's 89.6 to be precise.
 
Didn't we agree that all countries/people would use the normal/sensible metric system and drive on the rigth-hand side of the road?
 
Sam
@rene Wow, how hot?! I hear having a car with a lighter colour paint helps...
 
@Sam the airco gets fixed on monday
 
Sam
Don't forget Russia; IIRC they use inches to measure the height of mountains. lol
@rene You don't work for home I guess?
 
@Sam I'm canadian, so I'm with you, but I live in the US, so ...
 
7:12 PM
@Sam Today I didn't... :(
 
Sam
@Kylar So you're used to a balmy -25 then? lol
@rene Let me guess, Java or ASP dev?
 
@Sam Neither...
 
Sam
7:32 PM
Hmm, ok. Second guess: C/C++, C#, PHP, or SQL'ing of some sort?
 
@Sam I've done some C/C++, never touched and never will touch php but yeah c# is more my cup-of-tea...
But I don't claim to be a hard-core dev...
 
Sam
Same here; dabbled a bit in C++ (hoping to learn some more in the near future), but C#'s my "native" language, albeit, I've only got a couple of years xp.
 
7:49 PM
I also have a couple of years xp ;-)
 
Sam
Nice. Do you do any "low level" stuff? Like using unsafe code at all?
 
@Sam Only in experiments...I've not been in a real situation yet that I can't scale in or out anymore...
In the early days (.net 1.0/1.1 era) I p/invoked more often...
 
Sam
@rene So you haven't explored the world of unsafe for a performance boost?
 
8:06 PM
No, in the architectures I've worked on we had enough headroom to work without stepping outside the managed world. If I ever need that in production I would switch to a C/C++ stack though and not try to mimick stuff in c# that is better suited for C/C++ anyway.
 
Sam
I see, unfortunately I can't even do that, I can just about translate C++ to C# :/
 
That is closer than trying to translate php to c# :)
 
Sam
Lol, true, true.
 
@Sam Remember that when performance problems occur something else is borked. Don't assume anything, just start meassuring and comparing results. 9 out of 10 your code is somewhere new-ing an extra array or doing a deep-clone or creating a million strings for nothing...thinks like that...
You get a glimpse of such approach on this answer of mine
 
Sam
8:22 PM
Yeah, I do normally refactor along the lines of that, thanks for the reminder ;)
 
You're welcome :)
 
Sam
So, what sort of code do you usually write? Like desktop apps, site backend, etc...
 
carrier grade servers.
:)
 
I'm a back-end/integration minded person with the need/urge to coach our front-end team..
 
Sam
"carrier grade"? Never heard of that before, what is it?
 
8:29 PM
like... servers with 100M+ daily users
 
Sam
@rene So the GUIs are less than amazing atm? ;)
 
Uh, yes :)
 
Sam
@Kylar Oh, kk.
@rene Things must be pretty desperate if a backend dev has to tech the frontend'ers how to design lol ;)
I have to admit, I do find it easier to do backend work than frontend; generally speaking I enjoy it more too.
 
@Sam Back-end stuff doesn't have to look nice, use the right font or have matching colors. The bytes either go over the wire in the correct order or they don't. There is no It should feel good in backend programming....
 
8:44 PM
I think of backend vs frontend like "Math" vs "Art". One works or doesn't. One is entirely subjective
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I couldn't have said it better
and with that I say goodbye...
 
I bid you Adieu.
 
Sam
Sorry, was afk..
@Kylar Great analogy.
I've gtg as well, see you tomorrow...
 

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