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3:00 PM
> You'd be above the average water mark of people who are actually wasting their time.
 
@Zirak i can center a div but its different to vertically center a div inside a div
 
I think of it differently
 
and i tried google some threads i read said its impossible
right now i have that question asked on SO but the posted solution hasn't worked so i asked here
 
@Neal, I have a quick question. Does the amount of content reflect on jQuerys performance?
 
OMG raynos is no longer anime :P
 
3:01 PM
@KalleHVäravas yes...
 
@JeffHodge Is the span still display: inline?
 
it affects javascript performance
 
Also, if I have some code that I'm pretty sure is a terrible idea, but I want to know why it's a terrible idea, that should go on Code Review, right?
 
@RyanKinal nop here is the code stackoverflow.com/questions/7258547/…
 
@Neal: So when some slideDown() effect is a bit laggy or buggy. I have ruled out other plugins and scripts, also css.. Leaves only the content. However, what is the cure/fix?
 
3:02 PM
Gotta get back to work, I'll be back later.
 
@KalleHVäravas ask an SO question ^_^
 
suggest improvements
Please ^^
 
@Neal: Thats the problem. I cant publish my local problem, as the project must stay secure.. However, I personally I cant think of a fix for contents amount. Though, I wouldn't say that there is alot of content.. Just that this seems to be the trigger for the slidedown lag.
 
@KalleHVäravas well then i cant help u.... use some lipsum.
 
@Neal: Problem is in the contents structure amount not text. But thanks anyways :)
 
3:06 PM
@KalleHVäravas so post the struct with lipsum. i dont see the issue..
 
@JeffHodge Dude, learn to format code. Cleanliness counts.
 
somebody please explain this to me:
FF6 memory managment (about:memory).. I don't understand it :p
 
@RyanKinal do you know of a good code indenter or such?
 
@JeffHodge The tab key
 
"resident memory" is about 1gig, but all the memory users above just add up to around 240mb
 
3:09 PM
@RyanKinal no I mean once I am done writing all my code if there is a proper script outthere to format the code. Generally for Java I would f5 in ready to program or eclipse for formatting
 
@Neal Then I still have to post the exact structure + css and maybe even more. Because, otherwise all factors aren't there = I'm publishing the hole thing. So basically, that's where everything gets stuck. I guess I will put a theoretical question up on Programmers.
 
@jAndy its open source ,read the firefox source :P
 
cries
 
my fingers would hurt from all the tabbing id have to do....
 
,.·´¯\_(ツ)_/¯`·.,
 
3:17 PM
hi all, not sure what the etiquette is on asking a question here, so I'll just dive in
Can anyone recommend a good library that will do input sanitizing?
 
user1385191
...in js?
 
yup
 
user1385191
that's the server's job
 
@MattMcDonald agreed
 
I'll be handling text input from a user, and I basically want the JS equivalent of htmlspecialchars in PHP
oh most definitely
I'll be doing it server side as well
basically in node and PHP
 
3:19 PM
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A: how can I vertically center a span in a div?

Ryan KinalFirst, I would recommend removing the padding, height and line-height declarations from .title. Then, I would specify vertical-align: middle on .titl. vertical-align is meant for inline elements, and spans are inline elements. Thus, you can use vertical-align. That said, I was unable to duplicat...

 
but when a user types in a message, I don't want the roundtrip time. it's only a convenience thing so it doesn't have to be super good
it's just to make sure stuff isn't mangled when a user pastes HTML and stuff in a chat box.
escape() seems to do what I need, I was wondering whether there was anything else
 
I prefer the line-height method of vertically aligning elements.
 
user1385191
you can write some of it by hand
 
Ah just read your answer, I guess if vertical-align works they should probably do that then :P.
 
user1385191
 
3:24 PM
@MattMcDonald oooh nice! that'll do nicely
thanks a lot!
 
3:38 PM
Happy 3rd Birthday to Google Chrome http://t.co/yoMV4CF
 
@JohnP node-validator
@JohnP dont use escape its broken
 
3:52 PM
Bwahaha! There isn't a VB tag on Code Review.
Oh, there's vb.net, though
 
why does mozilla insist on creating their own dev tools for firefox
 
they should just take firebug to the core
 
4:11 PM
@jAndy yeah whats up with that :\
 
user1385191
might have to do with the fact that they don't develop it
 
user1385191
or they don't have the manpower to maintain it
 
@RyanKinal your solution didnt work either but luckily i added <br /> twice and that centered it perfectly, not the proper way of fixing it but for now it works fine
 
What are hash links called?
 
@Raynos What are hash links?
 
4:24 PM
Well I mean url#idToElement
used to highlight a certain part of the page
 
4:39 PM
isn't that an anchor? like <a name="top"></a> then to get there you use <a href="#top">top</a>
 
yes
 
have a look here > w3schools.com/tags/tag_a.asp
isn't really javascript tho
 
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFfff
He links me to w3schools. What a troll
 
I thought you asked what they were?
 
I knew what it was
I was looking for the name
Also w3fools
 
4:46 PM
nice.
I had noidea..
 
5:05 PM
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Q: Detect new users to chat, display helpful info

IncognitoMesages such as this are very common in all rooms: http://chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/1362574#1362574 We have the data available to determine if a user is new, so what if we had the option to set up room guidelines and so forth when they enter to be predominately shown? I know some...

 
5:16 PM
Sounds good to mee!.. I'm new and would deffo appreciate some guidance.
 
user1385191
why can't we just have a FAQ on the right side for everyone?
 
user1385191
I suppose it could be edited into the topic if need be
 
hahahahah EWWWW table that i used to make a verticle menu shows its bullets :P
usually if its aligned with the wall of the webpage you wouldn't see it but since i have the menu indented a bit you can see the bullets, another reason tables are terrible for menus....
 
@JeffHodge Table... bullets... wtf?
 
friggin ugly :P
 
5:26 PM
@JeffHodge ... tables don't normally have bullets.
 
everything with me isnt normal :P
 
Right. Indeed.
 
any idea why my table has these ugly bullets?
or how to remove them
 
yay
we removed the image preloading crap
 
@JeffHodge Code?
 
5:30 PM
load time improved by a couple of thousand percent
 
@IvoWetzel Nice!
@JeffHodge Right now, I don't know why your table has bullets
 
LOL
     <ul>

         <li class="top_border"></li>



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			<li><a href="#">Downloads</a></li>
			<li><a href="#">Service Desk Plus</a></li>
			<li><a href="#">On-Call Script Setup</a></li>
			<li><a href="#">Contact</a></li>




         <li class="bottom_border"></li>

     </ul>
 
user1385191
(because it's a ul)
 
user1385191
(right on cue)
 
yeah :P
 
user1385191
5:32 PM
:dunce:
 
what else am i suppose to use if not ul
 
@JeffHodge That's exactly what you're supposed to use.
@JeffHodge But it's NOT a table
ul { list-style-type: none; }
 
@RyanKinal ur my hero :P
 
user1385191
[bigboldfont]...[/bigboldfont]
 
L2HTML/CSS
 
5:35 PM
i read the one at html.net it didnt talk about the list style type
 
Hello all
 
@whobutsb Hi
 
Has anyone ever seen a status code of -1005?
 
@whobutsb An HTTP status code?
 
yeah
 
5:37 PM
Are there places where people review each others' jQuery code?
 
Nope. Can't say I have.
 
@whobutsb Must be an error
 
I'm trying to do a jQuery AJAX Post
 
in the network inspector in chrome the status code si -1005
weird stuff
 
5:39 PM
Definitely
 
if i put some print_r's in my code it seems to be going through
looks like it's dying when it needs to insert the data in to MongoDB
 
Wait what?!
Silverlight doesn't support wsHttpBinding Why would anyone want to build a silverlight RIA if you cant websocket :\
 
> The new feature is the introduction of type inference to Firefox’s JaegerMonkey JIT compiler, and it will debut with Firefox 9. It was originally meant to land a few months ago, in time for Firefox 5...
 
@IvoWetzel o/
We are also getting sourcemap in FF9
 
user1385191
 
user1385191
zzzzzzzzz
 
"someone released a stable version without running tests on newly added code, or, more likely, someone didn't notice that there was a really important test failing because PHP 5.3 has 192 failing unit tests! "
 
user1385191
spotted on the CSS of a client we're working with:
 
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#textarea1 table tr td table tr td table tr td table tr td table tr td table tr td h1 {
	color: #666;
}
#textarea1 table tr td table tr td table tr td table tr td table tr td h1 {
	color: #666;
}
#textarea1 table tr td table tr td table tr td table tr td table tr td table tr td .style67 strong {
	font-size: 12px;
}
#textarea1 table tr td table tr td table tr td table tr td table tr td table tr td .style67 strong {
	font-size: 12px;
}
#textarea1 table tr td table tr td table tr td table tr td table tr td table tr td .style67 .style52 {
 
user1385191
get your specificity calculators out!
 
6:08 PM
Is that a table within a table within a table within a table within a table within a table?
 
@MattMcDonald wtf....
 
user1385191
the site is nested tables
 
user1385191
which is at least forgivable compared to the CSS
 
6:26 PM
LOL oh poor @MattMcDonald
those are some insane styles wow
 
user1385191
we wanted to rebuild the whole site
 
user1385191
they only let us do the homepage
 
heh recently Ive seen jquery selectors that look like that
 
user1385191
now it's looking like we may get to
 
nice
 
user1385191
6:27 PM
but no server-side code :(
 
does the server side gen crazy markup
 
user1385191
it's all hard-coded
 
...
@MattMcDonald ...
Y U ACCEPT BAD JOB
 
@Raynos people need eat
 
@Zirak Y U SELL SOUL FOR FOOD
 
6:31 PM
Delicious pizza ;_;
I can live with no soul, can't live with no food
 
Why can't you get a better job :\
Seriously. Skilled developers can get good jobs
 
user1385191
my job is fine
 
user1385191
it's just one bad client
 
I got bored of making crappy websites. Startups aren't my thing (me iz lazy), so I'm left with refactoring crappy code and writing Java for mediocre companies.
Also, I have no college/uni education, mediocre- grades, the big boys fart in my general direction :P
 
6:50 PM
But thanks for your concern, @Raynos. People have crappy jobs. I've had good ones before, will probably have some in the future, too.
 
@Zirak i have an uncle whom is a mechanical engineer and one day he got bored of his job so he did an online java degree and from there he started as a java developer and now works for the TD bank of canada, makes about 90k a year
 
@JeffHodge you could do the same o/
 
user1385191
he needs to learn how to code first
 
didnt take long between the time he got his degree and got a job there
 
@Zirak sorry I have zero tolerance for shit in the work environment
 
6:52 PM
@zirak uni/college education IS important but I find half you guys in here way pass what we are learning in uni
 
@Raynos It's ok, I understand you. I'm still angry at my father for sticking with his lame jobs when he could easily do better.
 
user1385191
there's a reason I don't work for a web studio
 
@JeffHodge Problem is, most companies use my CV as toilet paper because I don't have a degree at anything.
 
user1385191
because the studios mostly suck and so do the clients
 
@MattMcDonald be a great freelancer
@JeffHodge meh uni is ok
its overrated tbh
 
user1385191
6:54 PM
that's 100^100x worse
 
user1385191
freelancing sucks
 
I find it too eas mode
@MattMcDonald really? You cant get great clients?
 
actually, the program im in is engingeering so we learn about circuits and crap in addition to programming. We dont do much web developement there but I would say I am impressed by a lot of people in here as well as the php room and you guys definately deserve better pay
 
@JeffHodge meh, dont be.
be upset with how mediocre and shit everyone else is
I should be slightly below average
 
LOL takes me a shit load of time to make something, n takes u like 10 mins or less to make the same thing, i wouldnt say ur below average. I am pretty bad but not that terrible for someone not as experienced in web dev
i think thomas shields is about 14 or 15 years old and hes hella good :P
 
6:57 PM
has anyone made a chrome extension to allow google voice to be used in any form?
 
@ThomasShield hey I heard you were 14 :D
again your opinion is skewed
Its not us that is good
Its just you are very bad
<no offence />
 
@Raynos "They're all the crazy ones." ;)
 

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