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8:00 AM
Is there a way to click the "retry" link when I post too soon, using keyboard?
ie. Ctrl+R or up+enter or whatnot
Or perhaps it is intentional that I can't?
 
that's a good feature request post it in the chat feedback room @LasseVKarlsen

Chat feedback

Problems with chat? Let us know...
 
@codinghorror Which site do you mean? Are you saying people find #stackoverflow addictive? Good grief - get some perspective, people.
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HE WATCHES
 
I must favorite that
 
Haha
 
Tim
@LasseVKarlsen rchern has a userscript somewhere, but I'd have to tab over to the MSO's Tavern to find the link
 
8:01 AM
@JarrodDixon I need to brush up that movie poster now that I have access to Photoshop
 
another cool thing about chat -- if the input area does not have focus, just "type anywhere" to give it focus. And of course up arrow to edit, but that's in the chat.stackoverflow.com/faq which you've ALREADY READ, RIGHT? RIGHT?
 
Starting to fill up with rooms as well, nice :)
 
@JeffAtwood Of course ;)
 
@JeffAtwood Did you guys have dedicated people to QA the chat before releasing it as public beta?
 
Just after successfully overcoming my addiction to Stack Overflow, chat launches... :(
 
8:05 AM
@YiJiang I loved that thread, especially your answer
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A: Are rumors of a film true? I hope so by golly!

Yi JiangThey've already opted for a sequel I heard Excuse the poor quality. I'm on Ubuntu right now and GIMP hates me. Or is it the other way round?

 
@DmitryOrnatsky Yup, everyone at meta
@JarrodDixon Agreed, lots of fun
@MehrdadAfshari Welcome back!
 
@jjnguy I thought meta was the public beta version
 
@DmitryOrnatsky We're all here, watching and making sure you use it right :)
 
I bet Jon is sitting at his keyboard right now, not daring to enter, lest his last hours of his day that he actually gets his job done dwindles away into the dark void that is realtime chat
 
@DmitryOrnatsky It was, but chat went through lots of changes from then until now
@DmitryOrnatsky I can't speak to whether or not they did much testing before meta
 
8:08 AM
@jjnguy Thanks! Wow! The notification is nice :)
 
@DmitryOrnatsky we had a 1-day beta and 3-day beta that were low key, but not restricted to users. Then meta. Then a few others. Finally SO.
 
@JeffAtwood What did you think about being played by Kevin Smith?
 
and we had been using the chat internally for a while
 
I think I need to lose some weight
 
@JeffAtwood You are thinner than he is in those pictures, don't worry.
 
@MarcGravell Oh yeah, i remember that quick teaser beta
 
Hi Folks,I wann information about scala and lift framework is anyone know about it.?
 
@JeffAtwood Ha, oh yeah. I remember that fiasco
 
@Rupeshit check for a scala room; if there isn't one, click "create new room" on the chat homepage
(we do have search-as-you-type for rooms on the chat home page)
 
thnks
 
8:11 AM
@JeffAtwood For what it's worth, I picked him for his beard and glasses. His face resembles yours. (from what I can tell in those pictures...)
 
also, another gentle reminder: you can hook ANY stack overflow RSS feed into a room (if you are the room owner)
so for example in a scala room you might configure it to insert all new scala questions from the /questions/tagged/scala feed as messages in the room
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I guess you next step should be designing some SO hardware
maybe a shower cabin with integrated SO client terminal
something that FINALLY helps people to keep in touch you know :)
 
sunglasses with unicornify built in, for unicornifying the so-called "real" world
 
Has everybody read this? stackoverflow.com/questions/3905734/… It is genius
 
@CasperT Awww... please, don't
 
8:15 AM
@casper paste that link on a line by itself
 
@CasperT Someone tweeted about that recently
 
I'm sorry
 
(That's why we have a reversal badge)
 
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Q: How to send 100.000 emails weekly ??

xRobotOn my blog, I have 100.000 subscribers and I want to send them an update email weekly. How can I do that with PHP ?

 
I had to lock that because 5 geniuses decided to flag it as spam and it got auto-deleted
I now hold a grudge against those 5 users
 
8:17 AM
that is like deleting the html regex question
 
very uncool
 
the question is a good, valid question that simply has the answer "don't"
 
How do you get a link to a tweet in #newtwitter?
 
the time is linked, same way we do it on SO (well except time links to revisions for us..)
 
this is why we have the Reversal aka "converted lead to gold" badge (see first answer) http://goo.gl/83OW
Found it
thanks
 
8:18 AM
no THANK YOU
 
This is shaping up to be a fine launch party
For it being the middle of the night
(here)
 
another "my default gravatar looks like a swastika" email. Haven't gotten one of those in a while.
 
Hello folks , Any one knows about MailChimp ?
 
Haha
 
@JeffAtwood Hee... how does that happen anyway?
 
8:21 AM
@YiJiang Random algorithms don't know what a swastika looks like, so they can't avoid it
 
An Identicon is a visual representation of a hash value, usually of the IP address, serving to identify a user of a computer system; compare avatars. The original Identicon is a 9-block graphic, which has been extended to other graphic forms by third parties some of whom have used MD5 instead of the IP address as the identifier. In summary, an Identicon is a privacy protecting derivative of each user's IP address built into a 9-block image and displayed next the user's name. A visual representation is thought to be easier to compare than one which uses only numbers and more importantly,...
 
@YiJiang In other words, it's better than no avatar (usually)
 
@jjnguy Yeah, but I don't think... hmmm... it might just be possible I suppose
 
@YiJiang I assume it's so infrequent that it's not worth their time to fix it
 
8:24 AM
How to send dynamic data like usernmame, UserImage etc. in Email tempate using MailChimp ?
 
@VaibhavBhalke probably ask on Stack Overflow if you have specifics and code .. or check mailchimp forums if they have them
 
hi
i need some help
anybody der?
 
@Robin: what's up?
 
hi Robin, this video is for you
 
@RobinAgrahari Lotsa people here, but you're gonna be a bit more specific than that to get help
 
8:26 AM
ummm
 
Ok Jefff
 
i just came here to get a fast reply
can u help me with j2ee matters?
 
@robin check for a java room, this is a general discussion room
 
heh
 
hmm nobody is der
in java room
 
8:27 AM
speaking of Lionel Richie's "Hello", there is a state school for the blind nearby.. often see blind people walking around the neighborhood
 
@RobinAgrahari I'm in the java room
 
Maybe ask a question on some programming q&a site, @robin?
 
@RobinAgrahari Shouldn't you go in and at least try before saying that?
 
It would be better to ask a question on Stack overflow instead. Then other people with the same question would be able to find answers
 
@RobinAgrahari, Easiest way to get an answer is to actually ask the question :)
 
8:29 AM
chat is not really for Q&A. If you don't know enough to even ask, and need to do some back-and-forth to figure out what to ask then maybe
 
OK guys I need to go to work. Have fun :)
 
@Tomalak Have fun! I mean work. Yes work. Sort of forgot what that was
 
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Q: How to ask a smart question?

Filip EkbergLooking at this example in its oldest revision, the topic is "Is it posible?" This doesn't give any information at all. It should be mandatory for everyone asking questions on internet to read How To Ask Questions The Smart Way, which says: Help your community learn from the question. When...

 
well the canonical is now stackoverflow.com/questions/how-to-ask http://stackoverflow.com/questions/how-to-ask
 
@JeffAtwood Jon Skeet's how to ask is a bit more comprehensive
 
8:31 AM
it's linked from that, see the sidebar
there is a balancing act between "how much will users actually read" and OMGWTFBBQ WALL OF TEXT
 
Knu
Hi id like to know concerning the tenacious badge "20% of total" means 20% or less? OR 20% or more?
 
@JeffAtwood Well yeah. I said comprehensive, not better...
> When posting questions to a professional forum or newsgroup it is vital to format the question and it's content in a proper way in order to greatly increase the possibility for quickly receiving a good answer, and thus saving you time and frustration.
Pretty good advice, strangely from a Microsoft support article
 
@JeffAtwood How are you going to prevent people from going to these chat-rooms and asking "quick" questions? I think a lot of people find it a lot of work to make a proper question on stackoverflow. With lazyness in mind, chat will seem quite tempting
 
hey i just solved a user's query in Android room.. shouldn't i be credited with 15 repo points..? :P
 
8:33 AM
tenacious is "Zero score accepted answers: more than 5 and 20% of total" .. I believe that is 20% or MORE, nothing else makes sense
 
@JeffAtwood it amazes me how people still manage to ask very poor questions even with that intermediary page.
 
@CasperT, by telling them to post a question instead or visit the proper room.
 
@CasperT see @vaibhav response .. no rep
 
Knu
jeff then badge are not awarded when you reach it i supose
 
@AndyE Not everyone gets shown that page, and it's still easy to click through
 
Knu
8:34 AM
but at a certain time of the day?
 
@JeffAtwood :'( my bad..!
 
@knu badges are awarded daily, but rare badges are awarded less often. Just wait at least a day or two
 
Just seems like a lot of work to remind every new user to the chat, who were planning on asking a question. There will always be new visitors
 
Knu
oh ok thx ^^ hope ur right
 
Neverending job
 
8:35 AM
@YiJiang: yeah, I should have said "new users". It is easy to click through, but I think doing so is very ignorant.
 
@CasperT there is no incentive to do so.. and it requires 20 rep to talk here at all
 
@CasperT It's the same with new users asking questions, and no different with any other site on the Internet
 
Knu
man they did a good job on the chat
 
The amount questions on SO starting with hi, hello, etc and ending with thanks, etc is really starting to bug me. Should I just get over it or start adding comments to the question?
 
@tim -- the policy is to edit out meaningless salutations and thanks, if there is other stuff in it that needs editing, otherwise, meh
 
8:36 AM
@Knu yaah..!! i agree.. :)
 
still to get enough points to edit :(
 
@Jeff I thought there is a rep. limit to posting CW answers? Or was it just for questions?
 
Jeffwood!
 
probably the 10 rep requirement is still in effect for posting CW answers
 
Knu
they are probably recruiting the best UI devs
 
8:37 AM
Arent you in NY?
 
Is this the Tavern I have been hearing so much about ... people are saying it is great over there.
 
what time is it there?
 
@Knu Let's not kid ourselves around here a little too much, alright?
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A: Is there a way to localize input type="date" in HTML5

Dieter RaberHi, I agree with lambacck. Currently I am writing Javascript code to make the new form features available cross browser, using jQuery UI for this. I work in Luxemburg which is a good place to illustrate the localization problem in more detail. Most websites we write are multilingual de|fr|en....

 
I tend to remove His and Hellos from the beginning of a post even if there's nothing else to edit, because those are shown in the question summary on the /questions page
 
@ÓlafurWaage is from Iceland! This is what icelandic developers are like..
 
8:38 AM
Here, 1 rep user posting CW answer
 
(above video is from the EVE Online software development team)
 
yes, we all are like that
 
that 99 daihatsu charade is FLIPPIN SWEET.
 
we had one of the project leads here for a lecture, smart smart people there
 
I have watched that video like 50 times, it's so good
 
8:40 AM
why does the acute in my name disappear and reappear when people post
 
@YiJiang I'll let Sam know to fix that
I don't even know anyone that plays EVE Online, but it's not exactly my thing
 
I played for a year
 
You really need to commit to get to the fun parts
 
Jeff, you don't know anyone who plays EVE because those guys don't have time for anything else. Commit is the right word, as in marriage.
 
Knu
8:44 AM
is there already a failing area51 beta website?
 
gadgets was killed.
Posted by Joel Spolsky on September 14th, 2010

Soon, we’re going to close down one of the 24 Stack Exchange sites that were created over the last two months. Sadly, the Gadgets Stack Exchange will go dark soon. A lot of the questions on that site were about Apple gear and Android gear; those questions can be migrated to the (beta) Apple site, or the (private beta) Android site, as appropriate. Gadgets will be closed and will no longer be accessible, except for our usual creative commons data dumps where an archive will be made available. …

 
Knu
eh thx for the link ill check it out.
 
<-- Now the acute is on my name
now it's gone
 
if you are using Opera I swear I will punch you through the Internet
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@JeffAtwood Immediately switches to Opera
Or even better, the new IE9 beta
 
Knu
8:49 AM
no XP no IE9
 
Anonymous
I thought IE was at 10 already...
 
Firefox on Ubuntu 10.10
 
phew probably a font issue then. The size of the avatar scales to the chat bubble a bit (see my "gadgets was killed" entry above)
 
no punching required
roger
 
it would have been a tender, loving punch
I can't believe someone just mailed team@stackoverflow.com asking where they should email their programming question
that is a first
 
Knu
8:52 AM
probably a troll :)
 
@JeffAtwood Posterous, of course :)
 
oh wow, the avatar scaling to the size of the chat bubble is genius
 
a lot of this chat is pretty far ahead of anything else we've ever seen on the internet
 
@JeffAtwood Campfire? Never used it of course, but it's 37signals, so...
 
try it and see; we used that to start before we built our own
 
Anonymous
8:55 AM
Oh...
 
it is a child's toy compared to this; just try it (nothing against Campfire, it's competent, but our chat is.. way beyond)
 
@Jeff Atwood to make the web a better place you need to open source the chat system ;-)
 
there is talk of selling the chat to Fog Creek to package as a product. (We don't do any software sales and never will)
 
@JeffAtwood Well that is a pretty bold claim, seeing that their system is actually paid, and fairly established
 
Studying scrum right now. A Scrum setup is like the human face, everyone has similar features but everyones is different in some ways.
 
8:57 AM
@ÓlafurWaage those kinds of meaningless statements should be quarantined to programmers.stackexchange.com where they belong!
@YiJiang example the first. You cannot edit a message in campfire. PERIOD.
 
:D:D:D
 
need I continue? No, I need not. :)
 
@Jeff
hmm
@JeffAtwood it's not meaningless, just very very... very broad
 
Anonymous
I thought stack overflow was for programming stuff really. What happens when all the tags have their own site?
 

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