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8:07 PM
I see you all have had an...*interesting*...discussion. Anywho; anyone got any reasons I should stick with jQuery for Ajax vs. just doing it in vanilla JS?
 
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Flash Player 11 has built-in JSON :)
 
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@ThomasShields fortybelow.ca/criticalfusion/beaverplastics/assets/js/main.js (JSONLoaded) has working AJAX code in IE 5.5+
 
@MattMcDonald wow; cool! bookmarks
 
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nesting readyState over status is essential
 
@MattMcDonald right.
there can't be an HTTP status code if the request hasn't completed yet.
 
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8:11 PM
IE's the only browser I've seen that complains when it isn't nested
 
but it should complain, right?
 
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request.onreadystatechange = function() {}; IE 6 errs here if you use null instead of a function expression
 
oh okay
 
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IE's the type of browser that will slap developers in the head if they give it crappy code
 
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this isn't every case, but it's often
 
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8:13 PM
then it's "IE's fault" when a massive .innerHTML call fails
 
I hate IE :|
 
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it seems like iOS, blackberry, etc all have such a convoluted process for developers
 
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Q: Securing Contact Form 7

csm232sI have a client who's website I created with Wordpress. It has a contact form created with contact form 7. This client is a subsidiary of a larger organization who's IT department runs scans on their subdomains. The asked my client to protect Contact Form 7 from malicious scripts or take it down....

 
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good on SE for making a wordpress site
 
8:22 PM
ahaha saved another 6 bytes
 
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is JSLint seriously throwing an error because I'm using bracket syntax over dot syntax?
 
@MattMcDonald jshint.com instead.
 
that will throw at least a warning
in case of foo['test']
which could be written as foo.test
(that would also be faster)
@Incognito JSHint can be even worse than lint....
and yes, I've got pre-commit hooks to proof that :D
 
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dot is faster? I'd assume that since dot was written over top of brackets that it would be slower
 
you need to fetch and store (And on stupoid engines like Nitro even create) the string each time
 
8:29 PM
@IvoWetzel What can make hint worse than lint?
 
@Incognito Really, really, really strict settings
because other devs on the team don't care about whitespace or anything else...
 
@MattMcDonald Yeah, but before I programmed I sold cellphones, and I used roger's internal website, which crashed every day if I didn't sacrifice a virgin to it on an unholy alter.
 
and turn the codebase into a mess all the time
I had to fix 7000 errors(!) after the first run on the code base ;_;
 
@IvoWetzel I'm curious mostly because I'm forking the website for it to try and fix some UX issues.
 
but now it's all pretty and nobody will ever check horrible codes again ^_^"
@Incognito I made changes to the version we use, mainly get rid of some annoyances and added some little things
 
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8:39 PM
 
@Matt it isnt website issue its JS
trying to use a button n textbox to change a variable
 
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@IvoWetzel Wasn't the whole thing designed to be "A la carte" ?
 
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1 message moved to Website Help
 
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8:41 PM
@ErrorErrorError WHOA! did you downvote every one of my posts???
2
 
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1 message moved to Website Help
 
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much better
 
@ErrorErrorError thats what im asking. i just went on SO for the 1st time this hour and i see -58 wuith downvotes on everyone of my questions
 
did you downvote all my posts??
 
@Neal i'm pretty sure he did.
 
@Incognito u dont lose rep from downvoting questions.
 
no thomas holdon i think i got it...Im jus using php with the variable no more js
 
wtf
reporting to meta...
 
8:44 PM
@Neal just downvote him a few times and chop his downvote privleges. :)
 
@ThomasShields i have a couple of my fav people iggied lol
 
@ErrorErrorError "iggied"? what the heck, man.
 
@Neal Link me to that please?
 
short for ignored
 
@ThomasShields i dont revenge vote, but apparently he does
 
8:45 PM
@Neal yeah true. most of his questions deserve it though, sadly.
 
I recall a recent SO chat where Jeff was thinking about hellbanning abusers.
 
@Incognito All for it.
 
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Q: User revenge? All my questions were downvoted in the past hour.

NealI asked this question on meta about 2 hours ago: User keeps getting banned, yet keeps making new accounts to ask questions. Since then it seems every one of my questions was downvoted once after the @ErrorErrorError user complained about it on chat. Here is a link to my rep: http://stackoverflo...

 
lol
 
woah unignoring my comp lags lol
 
8:47 PM
@Neal there's actually supposed to be a script that detects spam downvotes and reverses them.
 
@Neal i didnt revenge vote your questinos I jus didnt find them detailed enough
 
@ThomasShields He has multiple accounts.
 
@Incognito they got merged.
 
its Error
:)
 
@ErrorErrorError How is it that the questions which you "didn't find detailed enough" were more than 300 words in length (almost all of them) yet you downvoted them all in the space of like, 5 minutes?
 
8:48 PM
@ErrorErrorError No, I wasn't mentioning you, your user name wasn't detailed enough.
Herp derp.
 
ive read them before :)
decided to vote today
 
@ErrorErrorError bs.
 
@ErrorErrorError You've read every single one of @Neal's questions before, just for fun? You're working yourself into a big ole hole, pal.
 
I think this room needs a timeout again :)
 
8:50 PM
stop crying already kids, its numerical values nothing more :)
 
@ErrorErrorError please. You stop. This is a Q/A site where downvotes and upvotes mean something. They mean that a question or answer is useful or not useful. To mass vote on things in the space of 5 minutes shows a lack of discernment between useful and unuseful things. It's more than numerical values, much more, and that's what we're worried about. We don't want some newbie coming in and thinking Neal's perfectly good question is bad because you downvoted it.
@0A0D yeah prolly.
 
the usefulness r based on opinions, i have my priveleges to give my opinions
 
PLEASE DO NOT UPVOTE MY QUESTIONS ALL AT ONCE that is just as bad.
 
so my vote represents my opinion thats all :) relax now get some icecream...
 
@Neal sorry! I was trying to undo some of the damage - want me to un-upvote them?
 
8:54 PM
@ThomasShields Are you and Neal the same person? I see you share the same blog site
 
@0A0D nope.
 
@ThomasShields please do
 
@Neal okay. sorry.
 
@0A0D that was a collaboration last week lol
i asked on chat if anyone wanted to help with the site
 
oh
 
8:55 PM
if u want to help id be glad to add u as well
we need more posts lol
 
@Neal I'd like to but I don't know how many we'll be able to find :)
 
why cant the delay for voting be less than 5 hours? i seriously have opinions to express
 
@ThomasShields please reverse those upvotes
 
@matt reading your questions as we speak
 
@Neal i'm trying most of them were more than 5 minutes ago; i'll have to edit the questions to get un-vote privleges.
 
8:57 PM
@0A0D u can try ^_^, havnt posted since last week
 
but u only have 1
so i shud read your comments :)
 
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boy, I'm lucky
 
@ThomasShields do not edit plz
just remove what u can plz
 
@Neal okidoki.
 
they all should be removed soon anyway
 
8:58 PM
@Neal got 'em all as much as I could. Sorry bout that; just trying to help. :)
 
@ThomasShields lol it does not help (sorry) it just makes me look silly
 
@Neal I gotcha. My bad.
 
@ThomasShields sok
 
lets read incognito's questions he has a lot :P
 
9:00 PM
@Neal :) @ErrorErrorError oh gosh.
 
@Neal can u do me a favour, i have 4 other accounts that i need merged all have 135+ rep
 
@ErrorErrorError i dont do merges u dumb@$$...
im rly getting pissed off
 
don't feed the trolls
 
(which is waaaay better then getting pissed on btw)
 
i was hoping u cud post my request in your post
 
9:02 PM
@0A0D sorry, true.
 
Just updated my meta question.
 
thanks buddy
 
is it possible to mute a user in chat?
 
@ThomasShields its cool im not voting on neal's questions anymore
 
user1385191
9:06 PM
you can ignore them
 
@neal go to ignore user by clicknig on name
 
ahhhh
so much better
 
wow that's nice
 
no more troll
yay
now back to work
 
will be troll when u get downvoted some more :P
 
9:07 PM
Hey, could you guys, please stop flagging like there's no tomorrow? If someone is being as annoying as to require so many spam/offensive flags, flag for moderator attention directly.
 
can we qualify "you guys"? No need to lump everyone into the same boat :)
 
Flags are anonymous. Cannot qualify :(
 
@MartinhoFernandes sorry all on the hook for this question:
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Q: User revenge? All my questions were downvoted in the past hour.

NealI asked this question on meta about 2 hours ago: User keeps getting banned, yet keeps making new accounts to ask questions. Since then it seems almost every one of my questions was downvoted once after the @ErrorErrorError user complained about it on chat. Here is a link to my rep: http://stack...

@MartinhoFernandes sorry
latr pplz
time for me to go home with my burn drugs. have a good night
 
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sigh
 
@MattMcDonald what? i had a major burn that got infected. and i used javascript to get a doctor to give me drugs
(jk, i was out in the sun for too long and got a rly rly bad burn, so a doc gave me a perscription)
latr ppl
 
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ooo
 
@MattMcDonald they're just copying jQuery :P
 
10:10 PM
I have spans that sometimes overlap like the picture and I need to treat them as one unit. However, I can't really do that for obvious reasons. Can anyone think of a better solution?
 
an html example would be better than a diagram.
 
So, overlapping is undesired? I'm a little confused by the picture.
 
html coming up
 
a screenshot might be helpful too
 
but I think you have to either do the same thing to both spans, or wrap them in a bigger container (which could be a span).
 
10:16 PM
contents are just text by the way
 
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are these spans inside of a p tag?
 
no
is this enough material to make an actual question?
 
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html is a must
 
i think so, if you post the html and a good description of what you want and how its not working for you.
 
alright, just working on commenting the html so that what I want is obvious
Here's a fiddle since they have wordwrap jsfiddle.net/radu/W6tv5
comments indicate which span the closing tag is associated with in terms of data
 
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10:24 PM
uh...
 
whats with all the uppercase gibberish?
thats so unreadable
 
that's why I went with pictures
DNA
 
ahh
could you change it to something more readable for the purposes of your question on SO?
 
sure
 
user1385191
10:26 PM
so you're overlapping spans for what purpose?
 
Hi, I'm new here
didn't know we have a chat feature here, nice
 
its pretty cool, eh?
and welcome to SO!
 
I'm annotating DNA, so say there's a section of DNA that is 12 bases long that is missing in individuals with a certain disease. It's possible that there is another section adjacent to that which overlaps and is important for another reason
 
@William Best chat room with the best features ever, hands down.
 
so the data itself overlaps, it's just a question of how I should format the output in a way that I keep the data together so that users can interact with it
 
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(a visual aid)
 
it's not often that I'll even need to do this but obviously it has to work
@MattMcDonald, thanks, I was just working on something similar
with indents:
<span id="five">five
    <span id="six">six
</span><!-- five -->
    </span><!-- six -->
 
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and you can't wrap these overlaps?
 
I could, do you think that would work better than my solution based on classes?
 
10:41 PM
→ 10 messages moved to Website Help ...jk, but shouldn't this be there?
 
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to be quite honest, I use that room as a spam collector
 
@MattMcDonald oh okay. So it's okay if I ask slightly off topic but good questions in here?
 
hmm, I don't think that solves the issue since the one span still gets closed by the two end tag.
 
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definitely
 
cool. thanks.
 
10:44 PM
anyway, I think I'll make a question of it later today, I need to explain what exactly I'm trying to do better
thanks for the help Matt and Kyle
 
Would a question about which of these two looks better be good for UX.SE or GraphicDesign.SE?
 
I like the first one better
reading left to right I can absorb all the information quicker
 
(updated link, had a goof)
 
on a big screen the two blocks of text are really far apart
well this changes everything
lol
 
:) lol
 
10:47 PM
on that size I like the right better
 
yeah. same.
 
I don't think it's mission critical though lol
 
But then, you're not a bored kid in the summertime with nothing else to do. :)
plus, i'm OCD. At least, i think i am.
 
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I've been working 9-5 since last august
 
@MattMcDonald lucky.
 
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10:50 PM
I wouldn't call working during two semesters of school with 2 hours of commuting every weekday lucky
 
@MattMcDonald okay true. But at least you have a job.
 
11:38 PM
greetings yall
anyone do much with touch events on mobile?
 
how to create a git repository on my domain?
 
@cyberrog with javascript?
 
@Rafe no. via terminal
 
you might want to ask in a different chat... maybe the git or the ruby chat
 
@Rafe where is the link?
do you have it?
i dont know where is this room
 
11:42 PM
use the search on the top right of the window
or otherwise just google your question. seems pretty simple
 
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