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12:52 AM
Undefined behavior, with a new and "improved" algorithm
 
That doesn't look like undefined behaviour to me
That just looks like an ordinary access violation
 
Yep
The memory violation is a thing that can happen
It changes random bits :P
 
what's the number that's displayed?
 
Just a binary OR operation of 2 of the bits changed
*After incrementing them
I did have a single try block for the return function, so if something happens on 1 specific line of code, it returns -1
Because I need it to return something no matter what
 
not if it throws
 
12:58 AM
Hmmm
In any case, it's got its own library for one singular function, if anyone actually cared
 
 
1 hour later…
2:03 AM
In messing around with Undefined.Undefined.run() that I made, I managed to cause a fatal error in the runtime.
gg no re function
 
Morning
 
Morning
 
Why you always here?
 
Because I have nothing better to do
 
It's good or bad?
 
2:04 AM
Made an entire library dedicated to an undefined behavior function :D
And it's probably good
 
I don't know what you want to made
explain for me?
 
It's a function that randomly changes bits
Whether they be in the program, or the runtime itself
 
Seems neat
 
why change bit?
 
2:09 AM
Because I wanted a function that could do whatever it wanted to
 
Not really understand haha..
a sample?
 
Sample?
 
yes
 
Do you see the gif thing I posted little bit before you got on?
Well, that example lasted longer than I'd usually have to in order to make it crash
I once got a fatal error AND an exception at the same time because the runtime got corrupted
 
I know what you are doing now :D
 
2:20 AM
Exactly
Intentional runtime corruption
The thing has its own library and everything lol
 
Because you change the memory?
 
No, because some other insane person could want it :P
 
ok I mean the reason for crash
 
Oh lol
Yes
It crashes because I try to, because c# is too smart for the function usually :P
 
something like hack?
 
2:24 AM
Nope, just does anything it feels like
 
I think I need to start a side project after work
 
What? You want a number? Flips table CRASH
 
work is too boring
 
lol
Should include a Undefined.Undefined.run() in it :P
 
haha
 
2:26 AM
For one of the possible returned values, I made a if check in the program that implements the function
Opens all of the windows you can in the app :P
 
I write web so...
 
Like a 1/30mil chane though
Idk anything about C# web development, but I think you can still include libraries
 
I don't know where to use yet
So could I find it on Nuget?
 
Nah
I'm still kinda working on it
Trying to make it as chaotic as possible :D
@MichaelMao What is Nuget anyway?
 
MS library manager
you can download library via nuget
 
2:31 AM
I should put it on there
I'll look into it
 
30mins...vs update not complete
 
rip
 
2:56 AM
I think that I might have made it into a NuGet package now
 
good job
 
Can't say I really know what I'm doing with NuGet :P
 
And you puti t on you github?
I didn't library on Nuget I only download
 
I'm working on uploading it to NuGet atm
 
what is atm
 
3:03 AM
At The Moment
 
Aaaaand....it's uploaded
It's not gonna show up in search results for now though
"This package has not been indexed yet. It will appear in search results and will be available for install/restore after indexing is completed."
 
cooool
 
When it's available in search results, it's called "Undefined behavior dll" and has the same icon as me here :P
Basically static
 
3:14 AM
yey
Top search result lol
My icon is the one I use for everything, as it's as impulsive as I am :D
 
I love butters
 
I don't really know anything about South Park, other than this guy is from it :P
 
I don't know this guy
 
Neither do I, but I know it's from South Park or something
 
yes it is
Anyway
butters is a cute and stupid boy
 
3:20 AM
Inb4 @MichaelMao kills Kenny
 
haha
no. Butters will not do that
 
Welp, that's the extent of my South Park knowledge just about
 
The Undefined.Undefined.run() usually invokes a System.AccessViolationException pretty quickly
 
I didn't yet
try
 
3:33 AM
I made an example video of using the function :P
 
Do you have github?
 
I think I do
I'll look
@MichaelMao Yep
 
You can put your project on that and write read me
But it's opensource if you don't mind
 
I haven't used Github much
The way the Undefined.Undefined.run() function is used there is it saves it to a long variable and writes it to the screen, unless it crashes of course
Well, if you do use the Undefined function @MichaelMao, a simple try isn't going to stop it from crashing :P
 
Come in here, oh hey look a problem! Let's see what's going on... reads through YOU MONSTER
 
3:39 AM
What?
The Undefined.Undefined.run() thing?
 
'Intentional runtime corruption'
 
*Internal
:P
 
Well that changes everything
 
lol
 
Carry on then.
 
3:41 AM
Messes up everything in C#, so yes, it does change everything :P
You have to run it intentionally, so it is intentional and internal :D
 
Technically right, my favorite kind
 
:P
I think I did say 'Intentional' up there too
 
You did haha, I copy pasted
 
Well, it's released as a public c# library now :P
I have absolutely no idea as to why anyone would use the function from the library though
 
lunch time!
 
3:56 AM
I need to join a random chatroom and rickroll them
 
4:09 AM
Fun fact: Undefined.Undefined.run() has a 1/30,000,000 chance that it returns -272457 specifically, without nearly as much bit changing
 
 
2 hours later…
5:54 AM
Morning.
 
Morning
 
morning
 
Morning
 
Howdy fellow geekorinos!
 
6:09 AM
Hai
Released a public library that causes intentional runtime corruption, but only when "it feels like it"
 
Sounds useful
 
Only if u wanna crash :D
Was 1 version of Undefined.dll ago
 
Wait.. I've been here before..
This happened yesterday
Deja Vu
 
morning @JakobMillah, what's up?
 
@scheien Morning! Dunno.. I've just been here before and seen these gifs of this application.. Weird stuff ;)
I did jack shit at work yesterday
I finished an offer and then... Studied .net Core
 
6:18 AM
oh? they still don't have any work for you?
 
How're you doing?
Nope
And the people the offer's been sent to are on vacation
 
Well, in any case, the function is a public NuGet package
 
God damn!
Today it's time to get a new passport...and I look like Allahu Akbar himself
 
Getting passports is "fun"
 
Definitely
 
6:23 AM
meh
 
Travel is moar fun though
 
Any suggestions on other languages I should write an Undefined.Undefined.run() style function for?
 
Hello @all
 
I probably won't do c++, as you can do things like that in ~2 lines :P
Hi
 
I've been studying the nginx source for a while and I'm looking at the logging facilities, does anyone know why they make a separate function to log different numbers of arguments, as opposed to using a variadic function?
 
6:27 AM
Idk, what is nginx anway? a C# library?
 
@Darkrifts Java or Python
GO
 
for example, log1(), log2(), log3(), where the number represents the numbers of arguments the function accepts for the format string
 
I know nothing of Python, so I'll work on a java package undefined with a Undefined.run() method :D
 
lol nginx is the most effcient server written in C
 
idk
OOOOooooh
 
6:29 AM
I'm a purist so I don't take interpreted languages seriously
 
If it was c#, it would be easy to go with a params parameter, but idk the C equivalent
 
Okay no prob, I guess the gurus aren't online atm
 
Time to look for fun ways to use Java things to corrupt memory in the JVM
 
Wait... this is a C# room? Google took me here :/
 
Idk, Isn't there a room dedicated to pure C?
ohlol
Google masterrace
 
6:30 AM
Sorry about that, there's a /c at the end of the URL in my browser bar though
well, adieu m8
 
@MacSual C#, Babies and interior design room
 
Rip
Any suggestions on how I should start my UB endeavors for Java @JakobMillah?
 
@Darkrifts No idea boro! Do something useful
 
hmm
 
I can't find the C room....
 
6:34 AM
GoEntrepreneur
 
It wont be useful, unless you like errors
:P
 
I don't like errors
I like new ideas, so do new shit! :P
 
Oh, well, the C++ room might could help
 
@Darkrifts do you mean monads/
 
Idk what monads are, so idk
 
6:35 AM
when you said undefined.undefined.run
thats exactly monads design pattern
 
Nah
That was just the namespace and classname I used in my dll :P
 
oh...
 
anyone here worked with react native on windows and android?
 
lol
Nope
 
Nope, I do Native for mobile
 
6:40 AM
so did i (android)
 
did ?
 
but i'm learning javascript/react so why not get with nativ
yeah i got tired of android development
but now i can't set up this thing
i need to recompile every time i make a change
 
Hey, what would be the point of making a class final in Java? Is it like sealed?
 
and it takes around 15 minutes each time
ffs
 
Yeah.. Something I don't really like with this node, react shizzle.. If this go wrong during the setup, I personally get screwed.
 
6:45 AM
i hate setuping stuff like this
lose 3 days on the setup only
maybe i'm just retarded
"maybe"
 
@Darkrifts It's often just used as the end point in a "tree". It can't extend other classes
 
@JakobMillah I'm doing fine. Had vacation last week, and spent that on Crete. Was pretty nice. Though it always seems to be a heat wave whenever I go to Greece. 41 degrees is way to hot.
 
Was gonna make undefined.Undefined final
 
@Proxy I feel you. But it's about getting used to it. I liked doing Native Android though. So easy to get started and I love Android Studio
 
6:47 AM
morning guys
 
@scheien Ohh really? I am going to Crete too in 3 weeks!
 
@JakobMillah Did they give you any heads up for when you could receive a response?
@JakobMillah Cool. Where to?
 
41 degrees though.. I hope I don't get to witness that
@scheien Rethimno "according to the english word for it" Where were you?

No heads up.
I brought my mac to work today, so I'll just work on my app
Fock it
The olympics will be interesting....
 
Making chaos on Java is actually really hard
Java is very explicitly defined in almost all cases
 
Java is Chaos
 
6:51 AM
@JakobMillah We were in Gerani (two places that has the same name apparently). goo.gl/maps/sTcGKnqQLsj
 
@scheien Oh the direction where we are going! So what do you recommend? What should be visited/done and where is the place to go for youngsters?
 
I don't think I'll be able to make a function that makes all hell break loose in Java lol
 
@Darkrifts Hmm, maybe not :P But it's hard to make something stable and well in performance compared to C++. Due to the garbage collector
 
@JakobMillah We didn't do much actually. Spent most of the time in the pool. Travelling with kids does that to you ;)
 
Hmm
 
6:55 AM
@scheien That's true! :) I hope it won't be 40 degrees... That would be harsch
 
@JakobMillah It totally is. You should rent a car, and just take a drive around the island.
:)
 
Hmmm....Think I can flood the stack and pull a random execution from it?
or something to that effect?
 
@scheien Yeah, we probably will :)
@Darkrifts No idea. I'm a Java pleb
 
Same here :P
 
I had imported a project as a dll, I then intende to change it such that instead of importing the dll, i'd import the csproj file. Now when I click play it says "you are debugging a release build of blahproj.dll" ... i.imgur.com/vYIMIzy.png it's not clear to me what to do with that message. It makes me wonder if i've still got the dll imported when I shouldn't.
 
7:12 AM
I dont think a undefined.Undefined.run() is gonna happen in Java lol
 
@ntohl I hope it works out. There are good substitutes these days so I guess that works ok from time to time? I know my little cousin didn't get any breast milk at all
 
i give up
 
@barlop Check the properties for that specific reference. Check the Path property. It should tell you the location for that particular reference. If you have referenced a project, it will use the output path it has.
 
Never give up
 
Never gonna give you up
 
7:27 AM
Need an assist on mvvm binding again :P
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@JakobMillah Java is incredibly explicitly defined, and Python was designed in a way that stops said UUr function from being a reality
"A bug in the user’s Python code should not be allowed to lead to undefined behavior of the Python interpreter; a core dump is never the user’s fault"
Also, for future reference, a UUr Funtion is what I call a function that can do whatever it feels like, be it crashing or printing 1.
 
Morning.
 
Morning
 
@Proxy You shouldn't have to build Cordova builds for every little change. It's a web browser bruh. Make use of yours to develop your app. Then when you're done, build an app to verify everything is working / fix iOS issues.
 
Making a UUr function for Java
@RoelvanUden Remember that undefined behavior thing I made? Yeah, I made a public NuGet library for it
 
7:36 AM
@RoelvanUden i know (i'm using react native btw) but it won't reload and i have to build the app again and it tekes like 15 minutes on my pc
 
@Proxy Oh. React native. May have god have mercy on your soul.
 
well he won't judging how i am starting.
 
rip
Idk anything about React (or React Native)
 
have you looked into native react / your thoughts on it?
 
Never even heard of it :P
 
7:38 AM
i meant roli :)
 
idk
 
I don't believe in any kind of native binding.
The web is the future. Not proprietary OS-specific elements.
 
Fun fact roel, Java and Python are actually very stable
 
So whenever anyone goes "Oh I'll use Xamarin!" or "Oh I'll use React Native" or "Oh I'll use Android" I just pity the fool.
 
Makes UUr functions hard
 
7:48 AM
@Darkrifts What the fuck does Java/Python even have to do with this?
 
Nothing
 
@RoelvanUden but :'(
 
:D
 
@Darkrifts UUr?
 
Undefined.Undefined.run()
 
7:52 AM
Wat.
 
A family of functions I'm making for a bunch of languages
Does whatever it wants, be it crash or print 1
 
But why
 
O_o
 
But why not?
The C# one is a public NuGet package and everything
 
What does it even do
 
7:54 AM
Whatever it feels like
"This is a dll containing only 1 function, Undefined.Undefined.run(), which causes (mostly) undefined behavior. In a 1 in 30 million chance, it returns Undefined.Undefined.UUr_Num and causes less chaos, otherwise it does whatever it wants and returns a mostly random long value."
 
Knowing about this BS wastes space in my brain that I'll never get back, so thanks for that
Butthead
 
:D
ur welcome
 
That is the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
No wait, not the dumbest, but close.
 
not that bad
 
I like it because it does whatever the **** it wants and doesn't care
Once corrupted the runtime of an app
 
7:57 AM
hahaha
I said "Do something useful" and Roel straight up goes "that's the dumbest shit" xD
 
:D
Making one for Java atm
Planning one for f# later
 

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