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12:00 AM
Ever watch the world poker tournament? Those guys fold a seriously large amount of their hands. That is why when you watch the condensed version on tv, you always see them getting these great hands all the time. It is because they are very risk averse.
 
I played a lot of poker a couple of years ago
Tourneys on tv generally sux, High stakes poker was a good show
 
As much as you might want to play your Q 4 off suit, it is probably best to just fold and play another hand.
Chances of someone else having Q >4 are pretty decent if you are playing at a full table (10 people).
 
true, but somewhat dependent on position opponents and your image at the time
but generally true
 
Yeah, limping in with some really bad hand like 2 7 because you are the big blind can lead to serious losses. Losing 2 pair to 3 of a kind comes to mind.
 
I think many poker player make poor investors, many are risk junkies
 
12:09 AM
Interesting article on risk
 
@TravisJ but attempting to steal the blinds might be a no-brainer depending on opponents
 
Yeah, but stealing the blinds can get you into trouble.
just caught a straight so you decide to raise big the next hand and get called in against KK.
the kowboy killers :P
 
@TravisJ risk neutral is a theoretical concept (continuing reading)
"suppose that while the party's utility increases with the level of his wealth, it does so at a decreasing rate"
[x] adressed it
 
lol i know it was that one time
when they came out of the woods
and scared the shit out of me
i never recurssed so much in my life
but eventually, the others came out too
so it worked out nicely
 
wait, what?
 
12:16 AM
????????????
lol no why
i didn't see her
did you?
oh...... okay then
 
epic
 
that doesn't matter, she was dirty anyway
haha yeah joe told me, he never mentioned it?
fine c ya then
lol i know, later
 
No, whos joe?
 
@johan times up
l8r
 
just a friend
 
12:20 AM
Wait, do @Travis and @Steve work together?
 
no, we're lovers
 
12:38 AM
lol
majoras mask?
 
@KyleTrauberman I'm not able to replicate the issue. Either you changed something or it was a caching issue.
 
nope, I didn't change anything
 
Then azure caching ftl
...xcom
 
 
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2:48 AM
@Kinected - I have no clue what steve was saying. It seemed like he was talking to himself so I commented "epic".
 
3:42 AM
@TravisJ sorry, had a few too many beers
 
4:20 AM
Anyone here?
 
san fransisco riots!
 
4:33 AM
Little do the Giants know that another Detroit Tigers team is under construction near the forest moon of Endor.
 
4:51 AM
anyone use a pluginmanager for their application before
 
 
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6:33 AM
Hi @RobAngelier
 
hello
 
 
1 hour later…
7:58 AM
Hi @GeorgeDuckett
 
20
Q: What version(s) of the .NET framework are included in windows 8?

George DuckettIf I install windows 8 what version(s) of the .NET framework will be installed before any auto-updating? What about after applying any automatic updates?

 
@GeorgeDuckett -> R U know about WinForms and Custom Controls?
Hi @O.V.
 
8:55 AM
Mornign all
 
9:13 AM
morning
 
Hi @Sisyphe and @Larry
 
@MRS1367 Hey mate !
 
@Sisyphe -> Hw r U?
 
rested :D
sometimes, not working the week end is great
 
;)
 
9:20 AM
and u ?
 
I'm sad and angry... :(
 
I'm sad as well
 
what's happening to u guys ?
 
for my problem..
No one can help me and I couldn't solve it yet... :((
2
Q: Clear InnerList elements of a custom control property after delete custom control from a form in Design Mode

MRS1367I add my created custom control to the new Windows Form and add some Tab to it by "Tabs" property. However, when I delete my custom control from Windows Form, elements of "Tabs" property are not removed. Please see below figures for more information: Figure 1 - My custom control "Tabs" propert...

 
awww I'm not into Winforms :(
I would have been able to help for WPF :/
 
9:25 AM
I had other problems and no one can help me to solve it
 
Good day
 
And Finally, I solved them byself.
 
How can I measure execution time of the code in assembly?
There is a function in TcpClient class: Connect(String, Int32):
public void Connect (string hostname, int port)
{
IPAddress[] hostAddresses = Dns.GetHostAddresses (hostname);
this.Connect (hostAddresses, port);
}
I want to know which line takes more time. Any options except write this code by myself and measure it?
 
I was forced to work on delphi and paradox which you probably dont know what they are.
I'm really upset.
 
9:53 AM
sorry for your pain
 
10:18 AM
49 days to go
 
11:07 AM
Mroning people
 
11:28 AM
hi
 
I am here.
 
AMH
hi I want to combine to Key in one new variable .
like Key.Ctrl + Key.e
but + not applicable
 
oh hey @Billdr.. I played XCom over the weekend - and man its awesome as ever
 
@Maverik yar
 
11:38 AM
except.. its the story is all same but with new graphics
its like playing classic xcom but in windows mode :D
i still loved it! (i'm on "Final Preprations")
 
I think that's what they were going for. A remake.
I just interrogated the shard. Two nations have dropped out. I'm not very good at strategy games.
 
i know this is the wrong room, but does anyone here know java? cus the other room is empty and i need some quick help
 
@Billdr So how did it go?
 
I've javaed. It was college, and I was curious.
@LewsTherin Better than expected
 
@Billdr I dropped 3 - two intentionally 1 just happened
 
11:40 AM
Metro sucks for old games :O
@Billdr Excellent! :P
 
The stripper was named "Fancy." My wife was content just saying, "This glass is fancy, but not as fancy as Fancy" over and over.
 
Lol
 
@Maverik Intentionally?
 
@Billdr yea, trying to keep them happy was impossible
i didn't have enough funds to handle all the continents
and i was playing on easy!
 
11:42 AM
@Maverik Ah. I went normal. That's probably my mistake.
 
yea its normal isn't as easy as most other strategy games
nations are hard to control even on easy (early on)
plus i was curious to see what they've changed
 
I figured, "Bah, I've played Firaxis games before. I can beat Civ5 on hard. Normal is a good place to start."
 
well i think the key is early satellite coverage
i'll try next on normal, now that i have an idea of researches involved and the items that become available
 
yea... I doubled up in North America. Asia got uppity right quick.
 
i started in south africa.. amazingly enough it doesn't get bad there for some reason
it was the last place i covered
 
11:44 AM
they haven't watched District 5.
Or was it 8?
 
asia seemed to be hardest to please
 
Is there a way to access a cd rom through the network
I want to use my laptop install a game to my desktop
 
@LewsTherin -> Share your CD-ROM
 
Thanks
 
11:50 AM
@Billdr not sure but i think it was District 9? O.o
 
Yea, that.
 
@CCInc Perfect
 
morning all
 
Hi @E.LDunn
 
@E.LDunn Hi
 
11:56 AM
hi guys hows you lot today
 
Hey, morning
 
@E.LDunn Windows 8 is fine.. been using it a while now. It does take longer to find some files though.
 
Morning @E.LDunn.
 
@LewsTherin dunno - didn't have that experience.. took some getting used to , flipping back and forth - but now its just alt-tab-like to me.
 
its evil and i dont like it.. it makes me cry
 
12:01 PM
Windows 8 leaves power users in the dark.
 
It is OK.
Not the worst thing in the world
 
I need an indepth tutorial on xml serialization/deserialization. Anyone know of one?
 
Yea. I was hoping for recommendations; but google ftw I guess.
 
Ha, well, I don't actually know answers to any questions, I just use google.
 
12:04 PM
@CCInc how so?
 
I just find it a tablet interface. If you have used Win 8, please share how it is!
 
Anyone else notice since Chrome 21+ popunder ads have been appearing at a greater rate?
 
@CCInc i've been on it for a few months now (been on it since first public beta)
 
@Maverik Do you game at all?
 
and I've yet to have any problem with it. i've run games on it that were designed for vista
yea.. i've run games that require stuff that i hate (like vshield and other "anti-hacker" software)
i've run ancient mmos even
the only exception was "Avalon Champions" - it just won't go past its hacker shield thing
 
12:07 PM
Course, nothing was better that XP.
 
XP was great for its time - but now i dread it
 
XP sucks lol
 
Can you still find the Developer Preview?
 
especially as a developer living on bleeding edge most of the time
I wouldn't think so.. not from microsoft anyway
 
I still need some help with JSON :(
0
Q: Issue serializing JSON Multidimensional List

CC IncI am serializing a Multidimensional list using JSON.Net, and I am having problems making it serialize correctly. Here is the result I expected from this: "children": [ { "children": [ { "children": [ { "date_added": "12995911618983970", "id": ...

 
12:17 PM
Hi, all can any one tell me why my code first context not changing when my database table has been updated?
The table is updating but the updated data not affecting to context.
i'm working with code first without existing database in mvc.
 
winforms guys: I am looking for a solution to replacing a "select all / select none" buttons on my form
I was thinking like a lot of tree check menus do I can offer a check box with three states? idk
 
12:34 PM
@rlemon you appear to have two states so why tri-state check box?
 
@CCInc I have a similar issue with xml!
0
Q: Deserialize xml node's attributes to class

BilldrI have two classes that look like this: [XmlRoot("Foo")] public class Foo { [XmlElement("BarResponse")] public List<Bar> bar {get; set;} //some other elements go here. } [XmlRoot("Bar")] public class Bar { [XmlAttribute("id")] public Int32 Id {get; set;} //some oth...

 
I thought your xml serialization was solved on friday?
 
The problems, they never end.
First comment is "Do something other than what I assume you're doing." Thanks buddy.
 
@Billdr lol
 
@Maverik well I can have two buttons, or one button with four possible states
well three
 
12:48 PM
@rlemon no check box thing does sound the right thing, just wondering about the third state
 
check all, uncheck all, and there should be a flag indicating there is or is not already some checked before the action
 
I mean we're sort of used to it by now i think considering its on every major webmail site
 
see how the tree menus work here
even gmail has [ ] [-] [✓]
 
yea exactly what i meant by "every major webmail site"
 
yea and i'm showing you the third state
 
12:50 PM
just that i didn't notice a third state in your description- but yea go for checkbox
public override object ProvideValue(IServiceProvider serviceProvider) { ...; return items.ToArray(); }
never realised you could return an array with an object return type function!
 
@JohanLarsson Thanks for the test code.
 
1:15 PM
I figured it out! iOS6 maps are really just playing out the best inception prank of all times
 
Fantastic.
 
lol wtf
 
The maps application is much worse than I even thought
this is vegas melting
what you get on 3d view for a lot of places is this "melted view"
wow, it can't even read its own map?
ok enough of this.
boss sent me a good link
boss is also an avid apple hater
 
I'd be ok with vegas melting.
 
My co-workers are in Vegas today.
 
1:22 PM
Kendall's actively trying to focus the sun on Vegas.
Also, happy Monday @KendallFrey, @DavidDV.
 
what no happy monday for me?
 
pft, no.
You can have an EXCEPTIONALLY GREAT Monday, @rlemon
Reverse trolling for smiles.
 
:)
!!/urban "reverse troll"
@rlemon "reverse troll": Bad Reverse-[Parody] [Troll]. One who, for the purpose of getting a reaction in a public web forum, pretends to be of the opinion that they argues against, but argues in a way so over the top or completely missing the point that they reveal their own stupidity or ignorance.
 
That's playing the strawman
I think POE's law applies, somehow.
!!/urban "Poe's Law"
 
@Billdr ["Poe's Law"](http://poes-law.urbanup.com/1842917): Similar to Murphy's Law, Poe's Law concerns internet debates, particularly regarding religion or politics.

"Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is impossible to create a parody of Fundamentalism that SOMEONE won't mistake for the real thing."

In other words, No matter how bizzare, outrageous, or just plain idiotic a parody of a Fundamentalist may seem, there will always be someone who cannot tell that it is a parody, having seen similar REAL ideas from real religious/political Fundamentalists.
 
1:30 PM
What about the Hitler/Nazi law?
 
It's on the tip of my tongue.
 
reverse troll?
 
That's an inverse troll.
 
ohh :(
 
I was just gonna say...
 
1:31 PM
!!/urban "inverse troll"
@rlemon "inverse troll": A corollary of Murphy's Law that suggests that terrible people cannot succeed in destroying themselves however hard they try. Evidenced by the inevitable survival of the drunk driver who wipes out an entire family on their way home from Sunday morning services. It is the inverse of nice people getting cancer.
wow
rule 34 has a counterpart.
 
!!/urban "rule 34"
FTR
 
@KendallFrey ["rule 34"](http://rule-34.urbanup.com/5505750): Anything and Everything on the internet has been made into a porn. You just have to look hard enough. Only exceptions are as follows:
>Chuck Norris (duh)
>Rule 34 (you can't rule 34 rule 34)
>Abstract objects (you can't rule 34 happiness)
 
The counter part is "If there's porn of it, it exists?"
 
yup
 
Whaddya mean, no happiness pron?
 
1:33 PM
I bet anything Rule 34 applies to chuck norris.
 
!!/urban "happiness porn"
 
rofl
 
@rlemon ["happiness porn"](http://happiness-in-a-box.urbanup.com/891577): Cats
Chocolate
Porn
cats with porn
porn with chocolate
cats with chocolate
 
(Rule 34 is a proper noun, chuck norris isn't. Haw!)
 
chocolate yummm
 
1:33 PM
!!/urban "chuck norris porn"
 
There are fun sized snickers entirely too close to me.
 
@rlemon ["chuck norris porn"](http://chuck-norris.urbanup.com/2557758): Chuck Norris fun facts 2

Chuck Norris doesn't work his jobs pay him for just applying.

Chuck Norris was once George Bush...but now he's Chuck Norris.

Chuck Norris is the only man capable of masturbating and running a marathon at the same time.

Chuck Norris created the first computer using the bones of his enemies.

Chuck Norris invented the lightbulb.

Chuck norris invented the question mark.

JK rowling was originally going to be a porn star but due to her not being able to handle Chuck Norris she soon became an au
 
Hi, all can any one tell me why my code first context not changing when my database table has been updated?
The table is updating but the updated data not affecting to context.
i'm working with code first without existing database in mvc.
 
Chuck Norris knows all websites. That must be false.
 
Chuck Norris is the Jon Skeet of mortals.
 
1:35 PM
!!/learn TheAnswer "After careful consideration it appears your problem is caused by Unicorns."
@rlemon Command theanswer learned
!!/tell tiru TheAnswer
@rlemon Command TheAnswer does not exist. Did you mean: theanswer
bs
 
Haw
 
!!/yes
ha!
 
@KendallFrey Command yes does not exist.
!!/tell tiru theanswer
 
!!/^5, bot!
 
@tiru After careful consideration it appears your problem is caused by Unicorns.
@Billdr Invalid command /^5, bot!
the cache of commands you teach it clears every time I close the window
:/
 
1:38 PM
!!/learn become "Nope! Suck it up!"
 
@KendallFrey Command become learned
 
!!/become self-aware
 
@KendallFrey Nope! Suck it up!
 
What just happened O.o
 
@rlemon, so can you provide links to solve it?
 
1:39 PM
Okay, so I have a pair of bobble heads on my desk. Someone is coming in after hours with their kid. Their kid plays with my bobble heads. One of them, a souvenir from my last vacation, is now screwed up. Should I murder the kid, or the jackass who let the kid play with other people's stuff?
 
@Billdr Whatever you do, don't murder a random homeless kid.
 
@KendallFrey I'm confused now.
 
Subliminal messages from Kendall.
 
1:42 PM
He learns a lesson - and it won't leave a bruise
 
Oh, I get it.
 
...on him.
Guess you aren't old enough to remember when oranges were a Christmas gift.
 
@rlemon, i did not understand whats the relation between Unicorns and Enity codefirst model.
3
 
I just found out the guy who brought his kid in may literally be going blind. I'll consider it karmatic justice.
 
@tiru Everything
 
1:43 PM
Get off my tubes!
 
@rlemon, means?
 
EF CodeFirst is easy
 
Your mother.
 
1:45 PM
right ? ;)
 
left
 
brought
 
@DavidDV, so tell me a solution.
 
Since unicorns are the problem, the solution is obviously ponies.
 
I mean that is why you are using EF, because its easy :)
so have fun with it :p
 
1:47 PM
    [XmlRoot("Lookup")]
    public class LookupRequestForCarrier
    {
        [XmlAttribute("id")]
        public String Id { get; set; }

        [XmlAttribute("PhoneNumber")]
        public String PhoneNumber { get; set; }
    }
 
:( my coffee is empty nooooooooooooooo.com
 
How do you think that serializes?
What's the name of the node?
 
@DavidDV, @KendallFrey, yes..........
 
@Billdr i'm also noobie - so ? Lookup
 
database is updated successfully, but the model is holding the previous values..
 
1:49 PM
or
Lookup
 >
    LookupRequestForCarrier ( id, PhoneNumber )
 
That'd be my guess too! But infact it's "LookupRequestForCarrier"! There's no reason for that to happen!
 
but you are defining it as root
 
No reason, eh?
 
No reason I can see.
 
    [XmlRoot("Lookup")]
    [XmlElement("LookupElementNode")]
    public class LookupRequestForCarrier
    {
        [XmlAttribute("id")]
        public String Id { get; set; }

        [XmlAttribute("PhoneNumber")]
        public String PhoneNumber { get; set; }
    }
maybe?
 
1:50 PM
@Billdr The class name.
Reason enough?
 
Why is it using the class name and not the root node I've defined?
"Lookup" does not appear anywhere in the final xml.
 
i'm hungryyy
 
Cause computers are only as smart as the people who make them.
 
...I see what you did there.
 
help me...
 
1:51 PM
[XmlRoot(ElementName="Lookup")]
@Billdr try this
 
@tiru Oh, look, a vampire.
 
my entity no updating my entity not updating
:D)
 
No dice @rlemon, thanks though
 
1:52 PM
@tiru that is EF, you get these kinds of errors all the time
 
best my google-fu can do
 
if you can't handle that then don't use it
 
@DavidDV, yes. Enity framework codefirst without existing database.
after my repository updation i used,
context.SaveChanges();
context.Entry(appevent).State = EntityState.Modified;
 
@tiru I'm not helping you
can't you read
 
@Billdr also social.msdn.microsoft.com/forums/en-US/wcf/thread/… looks maybe promising
you using WPF?
 
1:56 PM
what does vampire mean?
 
!!/define "Help Vampire"
@rlemon Could not find definition for "Help Vampire"
 
Thanks @rlemon. I'm just going to try jamming a square peg in a round hole while I droll on myself. Apparently that's the apex of my mental capacity.
 
!!/urban "Help Vampire"
@rlemon "Help Vampire": Someone who is eager to help, but whose help makes the problem worse.
 
Nope.
 
man failship
 
1:57 PM
ahhhh
 
@rlemon no UI for this, we're all in services at this point.
 
^ that is a help vampire
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