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2:06 PM
Hey @corvid Take a look at this legal notice from Lego for some fairly typical info about use of logos and trademarks.
"The LEGO trademarks (but not the logo) may be used in a non-commercial manner to refer to LEGO products or elements which are shown or discussed on a web site, as long as the trademark is not unduly emphasized or used in a way that can lead an observer to mistakenly believe that the site is sponsored or authorized by the LEGO Group."
 
user6568562
@WayneWerner : D Spot on
 
@PM2Ring With Fair Use, can't you use limited amounts of copyrighted material for the purpose of satire, education, or commentary?
 
Kind of interesting that a city with a population of 90,000 would need an APC that's capable of withstanding a mine
@corvid Yes, but it's tricksy business
 
@corvid Yes, you can, but trademark law trumps copyright law.
 
It's not like, "oh, you can use 30s of video" - but you have like, say, "Everything wrong with" that gets away with it
 
2:13 PM
usually my attitude is, it's America, so the one with more money tends to be more right. Maybe slightly cynical
 
user6568562
@WayneWerner That's sad but explosives can be made in one's kitchen nowadays
 
user6568562
@corvid If it isn't indiscreet, what are planning to do with the logos ?
 
@randomhopeful It's been possible to do that for years. You didn't even need a kitchen, just a moving van
 
@randomhopeful Thumbnail for video, that's all
 
So you're making a video and you want to have like a persistent thumbnail going on in your video?
like, say, the little news watermark?
 
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2:17 PM
@WayneWerner You're right
 
interesting apocryphal note - supposedly that attack was actually going to take place in Little Rock, but McVeigh was napping in the truck and a security guard told him he had to move it, and he got scared and went to OKC. A guy I worked with, his girlfriend's brother was that security guard. For whatever that's worth.
 
@WayneWerner nah, just the thumbnail on YouTube before you even start watching the video
 
user6568562
@corvid Maybe this article would help.
 
@corvid oooh. That seems more fair-use-y... but it could also be construed as an official video
 
user6568562
Although after further reading, it's not the same case. It's a thumbnail of a bigger picture, also Google was the one that got sued. Sorry @corvid : / I think everything was already explained by PM2Ring and Fizzy's article. Don't mislead users into believing it's an official video.
 
2:29 PM
yeah I'll just use my own thumbnail, not very hard to make terrible art. My vector art of crows and viking stuff only takes like 20 mins
 
hey hey
 
user6568562
@corvid That will be safe [ : If it's meant for the public to watch, I'd like to see it once you've finished it
 
Sam Fish just keeps getting better Lost Myself
 
user6568562
@corvid FWIW, I like that custom thumbnail better and chances are watchers will recognize the name of the technology better than its logo. Especially when it comes to frameworks and libraries. (Noob watchers that do need tutorials)*
 
2:37 PM
One thing that's super annoying about the react logo is it is effectively the same as another JavaScript framework, Electron. And then that is relatively close to webpack. And they can all be used together.
 
@corvid You could ask those organizations if it's ok to use their logos on your videos. But I'm pretty sure they'll say no because the logo would make it look like the videos are endorsed by them. So they'd only let you use the logo on your video if you gave them editorial control over the contents of the video. And that would probably involve some kind of formal agreement / contract. But IANAL.
 
I just wish my artistic ability stretched outside of super high contrast black/white/blue vector patterns
 
@corvid There's much less "caw"-ing than I imagined ;)
 
@WayneWerner despite the video it should be noted that the military vehicles have some extra protection and systems in them - and even they cannot take a direct hit from an anti-tank mine
 
2:49 PM
I was watching some show - don't remember what it was, but I think they stuck maybe 1-lb of C4 under one of those?
it drove off, after digging itself out of the dirt. I don't think they had a driver/passenger in that one, though.
 
user6568562
@corvid Videos explaining common pitfalls and cryptic errors you've already encountered would be great [ :
 
oh, there are amazing vehicles but anti-tank mines are a focused blast from RDX (not C4 composite but an RDX mix that includes a whole bunch of other stuff) and usually have armor piercing elements built-in
 
That would certainly make sense
 
yeah, cause...well TANKS! ;)
 
Reminds me of this shaped charge thing that I saw. Again, I don't remember what show it was on, but it was a metal disk in front of some HE
when it blew up, the metal disk would deform into like a 3m spike and shoot off like a bullet
naturally it was very destructive
 
2:57 PM
well, there are a lot of mines but armor ones are for tanks (cause why make them for something lesser) and modern military grade would be hard to get if not classified - but that sounds like an anti-armor measure. (most of the time these were stacked such that you'd set off like 3 or 4 of them and get hit by 2 or 3)
so surviving a single mine isn't even the military testing model :)
 
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@WayneWerner I think you'll "enjoy" reading about the bouncing bomb. Another example of the simplest way being the easiest, although not very mankind-friendly in this context.
 
@PM2Ring @vishurathore "a new lpthw for python 3 is in the pipeline" - the python 3 woes are the least with that book.
 
@randomhopeful also reminds me of youtube.com/watch?v=W4DnuQOtA8E
 
@khajvah Python 3 use `','.join([str(i) for i in iterable])``
 
3:04 PM
@AnttiHaapala Oh sure, the anti-Python 3 stuff is just the icing on the cake. Still, it'll be interesting to see if the new LPTHW has addressed any of the other shortcomings of the original. I'd like to be pleasantly surprised. :)
 
without watching the video - dive next to it (blast goes up and out)
 
I'd like to be surprised pleasantly too...
and that's why I am pessimistic about it.
A pessimist is never disappointed, only possibly surprised positively.
 
in Flask for davidism and Morgan Thrapp, 6 mins ago, by davidism
That structure with set FLASK_APP=cocktail_site/__init__.py works fine for me in cmd, but not in powershell.
 
powers hell ftw wtf :D
 
Powershell decides that set is a command, but it doesn't set environment variables or raise an error on that syntax, just to mess with everyone following Windows instructions.
 
3:08 PM
Heh amazing
 
microsoft <3
 
Is Windows just a giant exercise in trolling?
 
They managed to get Morgan to be frustrated with Flask rather than Windows, so yes.
 
yeah, set vs $Env or [Environment] is always fun when you run into it
 
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@WayneWerner That's amazing as much as it is horrifying. Never would I imagine that shock-waves would act as such in water but the explanation is very clear. Thanks for the channel [ :
 
3:11 PM
@RobertGrant or something
 
Heh yeah I like that post
 
There. Even better worse
 
that's so true there ^
 
my head hurts
 
3:15 PM
today is one of those days that I do not get anything done
 
this is worse than running pypy with IronPython under mono on linux just because
(at least I'm pretty sure that's what I did)
 
I don't get why everyone puts it this way: "You need to do the best you can, so that you can be made redundant ASAP".
 
@AnttiHaapala the Open Source message is: you should work for nothing as much as you can, so that we can all be made redundant eventually
 
@RobertGrant at least open source is useful to me
 
@RobertGrant That's only going to work when the machines can handle the entire supply chain
 
3:17 PM
@WayneWerner you actually installed it?!
 
until that happens, there will always be a use for meatbags humans
 
Cannon fodder
 
@WayneWerner what surprises me the most is that you managed to get that running on argh linux.
 
@davidism I tried using the build instructions but that failed at some point, so I just went and grabbed the AUR package(s, because I don't use yoaurt)
 
Everything runs on Arch Linux. If it doesn't, it's because upstream is broken.
 
3:19 PM
well, it failed at dotnet build --configuration Linux, to be precise
@KevinMGranger or the PKGBUILD ;)
 
shhhh no one makes mistakes with those
 
should I put data scientist in my resume intro? I find the term non-descriptive but it seems good in a buzz-wordy sense.
 
@JGreenwell do you science the data?
 
Hey look it's my cousin.
 
3:23 PM
bah
trying to make it embed the tweet
 
"To the science mobile!"
 
Data Scientist - 2015-2016:
- Science the 💩 out of data
 
And yeah I'd put DS down if I were you. I know you say it's non-descriptive, and I agree that there's lots of different types of DSs, but then again "Software Developer" is pretty broad.
 
I always just put "business (or other) analyst" or "researcher" but even those jobs seem to have "data scientist" in their titles anymore
 
If you've got at least one accepted pandas answer on SO, that means you're a data scientist ;)
 
3:28 PM
most of my pandas answers are comments pointing to docs
 
Business Analyst is a very, very different thing (in the UK at least)
 
Seems like BA is different from DS to me, too
 
here, in this region, its an umbrella term for a whole bunch of things which shouldn't include data science but marketing/buzzwords/execu-speak desended. Data analyst was a common one I used too - cause I analyze data, duh
or just some statement with "Software developer specializing in scientific programming and data analysis" but yeah, I think its time to just switch to data scientist (mostly the idea of adding "scientist" to my name seems undeserved but that's probably just me)
 
To me, at least, a BA is a consultant who goes into companies and helps them with their business matters, offering advice, etc. Typically if you have a technical project for a company, you'll also have a BA who helps to manage the client and understand requirements, etc. They generally have 0 coding experience though.
 
^ that is what it should be but economy here cause some companies to expand the BA job to include coding (rather then hiring developers) - which of course had some disastrous results for most
 
3:37 PM
Heh
 
also cause managers apparently completely missed the mark and assumed that data scientist == BA who develops...to even worse results
 
user6568562
I thought BA in Europe is similar to Business Consultant in N/A (Pull the plug on that product, shift margin from this product to that product, invest in gravel!)
 
Hello, what's the "good practice" about using virtual_env? Is it correct to have a Django project in /var/www/Project but the virtual_env in another folder like /home/user/django_env ??

Thanks!
 
Hi @jhrs21! Firstly, I would be sorely tempted to not put my Django project in /var/www
 
Whew, busy morning. I found a subtle bug which I can either fix by rewriting a half-dozen classes, or with a single copy-paste an obligatory //sorry about this terrible hack comment
decisions, decisions.
 
3:45 PM
Por que no los dos?
 
I already implemented one terrible hack today. Any more is bad for my soul.
 
you have a soul?
 
@IntrepidBrit Hahahaha OK, I just selected as an example, but thanks for the advice :D
 
@jhrs21 Which then kinda answers your second question of where to store your virtual environment. I personally like to keep my project and primary environment together so it is obvious which environment goes where. But the answer to that one really depends on what you're doing.
 
Every terrible hack splits the soul. We take these split pieces and put them into Hackruxes. And that's the secret to immortal code (as in, it can't be changed for fear of breakage)
7
 
3:48 PM
See the problem is that a report object typically renders itself to pdf by having a separate page per database row. This is ordinarily a good thing because most of our reports have enough data that one page per row just about fills the whole page. But out of the dozen possible reports, one of them is a lot smaller than the others and ends up consuming about an inch of vertical page real estate per row. So when that report renders to pdf, there's about seven and a half inches of wasted page.
 
But something like /Project -> all virtual_env files
-> code/ -> all Django files
Something like that?
It doesn't look well, but code folder is in the same level as "all virtual_env files"
 
Now, subreports _don't _ have separate pages per database row. This is desirable in case you have, for example, a "remarks" subreport for your "records" report where each report can have multiple remarks. You don't want page breaks for every remark, since most of them are a sentence long! So what we'd like to do with our smaller-than-average report is to make it pretend like it's a subreport, so it skips the page breaks.
 
In the end of the day, whatever works for you. You just don't want it in /var/www/ because that means your code can be accessed (possibly written to) by the default apache user.
And by the same dint, make sure you're using a different user (than the apache user) from the wsgi file
 
OK, thanks! @IntrepidBrit I will move it :D
 
So we define a new report property, RenderAllOnOnePage, which is false by default, but set to true in the smaller-than-usual report. And where we currently have if(!report.is_subreport()){, we change it to if(!report.is_subreport && !report.renderAllOnOnePage){
 
3:51 PM
@jhrs21 Going back to Q1: Virtual environments allow you to effectively have multiple instances of python running on the same machine. Because you have different versions of python compartmentalised, you don't run into horrible problems where you need library-A.v1 and library-A.v2 on the same system, but can't have both of them simultaneously installed to the main system's python.
(otherwise one of the projects possibly breaks)
 
Exactly
 
Awesome. I won't beat around that bush any more
 
But this seems like a conceptually impure solution, because it violates the preconditions that I had in mind when I wrote the body of the if(!report.is_subreport){ conditional. I make a lot of assumptions dependent on the condition that the report is definitely not a subreport, such as "I need to update the page number after every database row" which at face value don't cause any unexpected behavior when report.renderAllOnOnePageis true, but I can't formally prove that.
 
But when it's production ready, somewhere sensible in /usr.
 
Long story short I'm making my code much harder to reason about for the sake of a single corner case. And that's terrible hack #1.
 
3:57 PM
@IntrepidBrit that was the ol' way -- and not the best one, to say the least
 
waits for a smiting
 
@Kevin Why not break your reports into pages when they are long enough for a page?
not sure if PDFs make that simple...
 
What would you reckon then @PeterVaro?
 
Can you package up Django apps and pip-install them? Or is that crazy talk? Cause that's the kind of thing that I would do
if it were possible
that's what I do with my flask apps
 
Not sure. Pip is some wizardry that hackrux-smiths like myself avoid.
But I would hazard a serious guess at "no".
waits for another smiting
 
4:01 PM
@IntrepidBrit I would put it into the /home/... because, it is not really a Unix Shared Resource (what /usr stands for)
 
That is a backronym at best :)
 
Yeah, /opt is a common place... looks like a good practice
 
nope, that's why it is called the way it is called
 
If you can make it fit FHS, it makes perfect sense to put it in a subdir of /usr
 
Page breaks in general have turned out to be a more complicated issue than they originally appear. Consider the table:
foo | bar | baz
1 | 2 | 3
4 | 5 | 6
If the page ends between 1|2|3 and 4|5|6, it should be easy to fix, right? Just move 4|5|6 to the top of the next page, right?
Wrong. The end user complained about that, saying that he didn't like having to flip back and forth between pages to see what the column headers were. So when a page break interrupts a table, he wants it to look like
foo | bar | baz
1 | 2 | 3
-----------(page break)------------
foo | bar | baz
4 | 5 | 6
Additionally, we want each page to have headers/footers for report titles and page numbers and "for authorized use only" disclaimers etc, which further complicate the calculation of how much useful real estate we can work with for actual content.
 
4:03 PM
@WayneWerner Yes, you can, but they don't exactly make it obvious.
 
/usr was sort of like /home before /home existed. It was more like "/user". They started putting binaries in it because they ran out of space on the other partitions
 
*did
anyway, I don't want to pretend that I'm a UNIX expert (ofc I'm not) but I think they were smarter than that ;)
 
> make it pretend like it's a subreport, so it skips the page breaks.
Does everyone at least now know this wasn't a good approach?
 
Ooh I love finding stuff like this. Is there a version that's OCR'd though?
Everything I can find says that "In the original Unix implementations, /usr was where the home directories of the users were placed (that is to say, /usr/someone was then the directory now known as /home/someone", but I suppose a Linux FHS reference isn't exactly an authoritative source for Unix
 
@QuestionC Probably the better approach is to make no assumptions about whether reports/subreports ought to have page breaks, and require RenderAllOnOnePage to be manually specified for the subreports that currently have implicit render-all-on-one-page behavior. Then the conditional is just if(report.renderAllOnOnePage){. If I find any behavior that is specific to subreports that doesn't depend on renderAllOnOnePage, I can move that somewhere else in the code.
 
4:11 PM
I do want to read through that later, though
 
I think the better approach is to just get rid of the one report per page rule and make it something more intelligent.
A one page per report... unless it would look stupid rule.
 
I have a stupid numpy question about numerical integration. I'm using numpy.trapz to integrate (docs.scipy.org/doc/numpy-1.10.1/reference/generated/…) but I do not really understand what the axis option does. Can you use it to integrate along the y-axis or something fancy? What do I use if it is just along the x-axis?
 
Well, the damage is done now either way. But my first recommendation was for /opt ^^
 
@user129412 Yes it selects the axis to sum over.
 
4:14 PM
Implementing intelligent anything in this project would be a big can of worms
 
@Ffisegydd It doesn't really have documentation though, as far as I can see. What numbers correspond to what axes?
 
Well 0 corresponds to axis 0, and 1 corresponds to axis 1, and... :P
 
Anyone have a good reference on handling Many to Many to One relationships?
 
There's not really such a thing as x, y, z axes in numpy, you can label them in your mind like that if you want - but that's you applying the label.
Numpy thinks in terms of integer axis.
 
^ that there is the killer bit of info you need, I reckon.
 
4:16 PM
Hmm. Sure, because it can be N dimensional.
 
Exactly.
So if you want to integrate over x, and your x axis is actually axis 0, then I assume it'd be axis=0.
Have a play and see.
 
Right, that makes sense. I'll be able to figure it out from there. Thanks!
 
No worries. I will forward my consulting bill later.
 
cbg, friends! brain isn't working well today, but at least there are multiple puppies at work >:D
 
Cbg! I am jealous of your puppies.
 
4:19 PM
@Kevin "Let's handle this case by adding a boolean flag." Is pretty much always bad in the long term though. We're watching a little cruft get born.
 
@tristan idea for a stream sometime, maybe once you've finished DOOM and played some different games and want to come back to it, I'd be interested for you to pick one of the best levels and try it on Ultra-Nightmare.
I want to see you weep.
 
@Ffisegydd I work in trade credit insurance, I'll avoid paying that bill for a long, long time.
 
@Karin cbg
@Karin it seems you're not only a fast learner on the site itself but also when it comes to our subculture, including puppy references.
I should do something productive this evening :/
 
@user129412 what matters is that data is contiguous with respect to the last indices. I.e. arr[i,:] corresponds to a contiguous chunk of memory, while arr[:,i] does not. This can have noticable impact when you start non-prematurely optimizing
And +1 for puppies, any day
 
anyone here who uses up-to-date sentry?
 
4:23 PM
@AnttiHaapala it's not that impressive...I just assumed we were all reasonable humans, and reasonable humans love puppies ^_^
 
not going to ask for help, only about its features.
 
that's about as much logic as I can handle atm until I get food
 
Some of the locals are puppies
 
I think we've got 3 these days?
 
Room rules § 5: Cute fluffy animals (especially kittens and puppies) are cool, okay!?
 
4:24 PM
Ninja, 4theye, Programmer... yup
 
I think this is the kind of thing where it could be made right with enough refactoring (separate the display and DB logic essentially, it sounds like that's your typical problem).
 
I can be a puppy if I want to. That' what's great about being me.
 
Anyways, good luck. Sounds like a crappy but unfortunately typical problem Kevin.
 
Cool bunny.
 
4:25 PM
[not going to insert a random joke about Vietnamese, puppies and food...]
 
^^ but you just did
 
@idjaw that's a lion
 
this is seriously a real puppy in my office ^
 
@AndrasDeak IT'S A PUPPY STOP!
 
You're lion
 
4:26 PM
you cheeky punster
 
@Karin something something dogs weigh >=8 kg when ready ;)
 
Is it writing DOG?
 
looks at his public github and cringes
 
@QuestionC Don't you talk about @Kevin like that! I'll knock your block off!
 
@QuestionC The good news is that the underlying business requirements haven't changed in ten years, and isn't likely to change in another ten years. The only maintenance I have to do is when management decides "Let's not use Crystal Reports any more, let's use ITextSharp"
 
4:28 PM
Mobile is killing me
 
just realized I haven't updated that in almost 5 years cause I've been using private
 
@MorganThrapp that's amazing
 
mobile chat or mobile project @AndrasDeak?
 
Oops, the ninja is undersize, just realized...
 
@Karin I love a good joke esolang.
 
4:29 PM
 
@MorganThrapp perhaps not, but I am sure it is syntactically valid Malbolge :P
 
@JGreenwell former... full site, but crappy no keyboard
 
Old time photo. That's a seriously cute kitten.
 
@MartijnPieters aaaaaw :) Even with cat.
 
He was with us for 21 years. Yup, that's me as a young ninja.
 
4:31 PM
I hate not having a keyboard but aren't you one of those young whippersnappers that should be used to this "texting thingie"? ;)
 
Nope.
 
@MartijnPieters awwwwwww ;_;
 
My web 2.0 presence is nonexistent
I don't even have friendface
 
I need to go get a picture with my kitten, don't I?
 
so, anyone using recent Sentry?
that POS is PITA to setup, so would want to ask a bit about the interface
I guess not ;(
 
4:35 PM
@AndrasDeak well, if you don't have a friendly face what do you expect :P
 
speaking of avatars, perhaps I should change my pic
 
pic wisely
 
my profile pic has 10th anniversary in next month:D
 
what would be a good profile pic for you....
this is going to take some work
 
@idjaw my colleagues complain that it looks too nice. I do not look like myself because I am not angry in it.
 
4:39 PM
@AnttiHaapala just draw a beard on it. That's how aging works, right?
 
Look at that sleepy fluffer.
 
hmmmm...ok I can do this
 
Tired out from an exhausting day of chewing on my toes.
 
4:40 PM
no pycharm licenses
 
angry....we need to incorporate finland too
OH!!! I GOT IT!
 
The cat's cute too
 
Finland venomous snake....nothing says angry like a deadly snake
you're welcome, Antti
 
Anggri Haapala?
 
haha
 
4:42 PM
 
hahahha
 
Antti, I assume.
 
user559633
same but not finnish
 
@MorganThrapp I don't drink vodka any more :D
 
@AndrasDeak I sure hope not >_>
 
4:43 PM
Ever since the liver incident?
 
@idjaw looking at that result it seems like Finland has the most well-behaved deadly snake ever - or Finish people taste really bad and the snakes want none of it
 
Stupid small arrow icon
 
@AndrasDeak no, I guess I don't drink vodka since I don't remember the liver incident...
 
user559633
@Ffisegydd pff i'm sure i'll be fine.
 
4:46 PM
shitshitshit
I upgraded pycharm and now I don't have a license. :D
 
You mean your license expired for new versions?
 
You can download the latest version for your license from your account page.
 
or expired for any versions
 
user559633
Perpetual fallback :)
 
4:50 PM
ah thanks :P
found the link there
 
Oh yeah, only if you have the perpetual fallback.
 
I should buy the new license, but ...
 
I'm somewhat hesitant to upgrade my license for that reason, even though you get a discount if you do.
 
the offer will stay for now for some time...
 
user559633
Yeah, the price doesn't decay well over the set of features. At some point, I'll buy a year subscription for the "all products" pack at $250
 
4:52 PM
Wait never mind, even the subscriptions allow a perpetual fallback version: sales.jetbrains.com/hc/en-gb/articles/…
Or at least my WebStorm one does.
 
the problem is that I now have AnttiPatterns Inc but it is still dormant...
 
user559633
oh, sorry, that's what i meant. as long as you licensed for the period needed for perpetual fallback, you can always use up to the version of the software of when your licensed expired
 
and ...
 
"All products" isn't worth it until you're using at least 3 or 4 of the IDEs, depending on which ones.
 
I am not sure if AnttiPatterns sole proprietorship can transfer the license to AnttiPatterns, Inc...
Oh well,
 
4:55 PM
@tristan That was introduced after the whole mess that happened when they first introduced the subscription model and a lot of people were upset by it, right? Or was it always the case, just not advertised properly?
 
user559633
Yeah, I like PyCharm, Webstorm, and CLion, and having the rest is just a nice extra
 
@idjaw the fallback was always there IIRC
 
I have my own PyCharm license, and work pays for an intelliJ license
 
user559633
@idjaw I think they introduced subscription, but the "pay for a year and you get the license" was the same price as before. People saw "monthly" and thought "oh god oh no it's adobe"
 
user559633
or maybe they did perpetual fallback after people said they'd tough it out in eclipse/sublime text/other more primitive alternatives
 
4:56 PM
I did buy PHPStorm per month :D
 
at what point is it worth it to pay for IntelliJ
 
no way I am going to use a PHP IDE for one year.
 
user559633
It's always worth giving money to intellij if it's someone else's money and that person is also paying for non-technical things for employees
 
I still need to investigate what they changed about their trial expired detection. It used to be that you could delete the settings folder, but that's not enough anymore.
It's not a network ping, because I've tried it offline. And I couldn't find any obvious other locations for a settings file.
 
@davidism strace :P
 
4:58 PM
Really just need to set up a separate user and compare the before and after directory tree.
 
@tristan yeah...I was more referring for my own personal license....I'm OK paying for PyCharm...and if I started going back to doing more web-based projects on my own, I would probably need webstorm (right?)
 
user559633
PyCharm will do a lot of webdev stuff. Webstorm is useful for newer/"cool kid" JS
 
the problem about paying for pycharm is that in my opinion the money should go to fixing bugs... and writing new features...
 
Circumventing licensing restrictions? Nerd Cop busts through the drywall, Kool-Aid Man style ur goin down punk
5
 
... but I feel that all these bugs that I complain most about are regressions.
 
4:59 PM
There's a subset of WebStorm in PyCharm, so unless you're doing some crazy Node stuff you should be fine.
 

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