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user4639281
12:09 AM
@Braiam You are ridiculing that person by saying "if you do X, then you are Y user" if X is a bad thing, that means that Y is a person that does bad things. Please keep references to specific users to a minimum, and no references to specific users with a negative connotation whatsoever.
 
Is it right to give a cv to someone's first question?
@Machavity looks too much like SAO xD
 
@CardinalSystem If that question should otherwise be closed. First question or not makes no difference.
 
@AlexanderO'Mara I don't remember where, but I saw something in the help center that said to be merciful to first questions
It actually might have been Meta... I don't remember anymore.
Sigh
No one is posting under the tag :/
 
12:25 AM
Sooner or later someone will post a JavaScript question there. :p
 
javascript....
nothing I can do xD
Hey
What prevent users from downvoting other answers just so that theirs will be more popular?
 
@CardinalSystem basically nothing. But at some level we have to rely on users being fair. But thaat would be just one vote among multiple, so it should average out.
 
@Olaf That suddenly makes me feel that some of my answers were unjustly downvoted -_-
 
@CardinalSystem That's the reason that downvoting answers cost rep.
 
12:33 AM
@CardinalSystem Welcome to real life.
 
@AlexanderO'Mara Do you mean is takes rep to earn the privilege, or to actually downvote them?
is @Natty a bot?
 
@CardinalSystem Cost 1 rep point to downvote each answer.
 
:O
I never knew
 
1:02 AM
Can someone tell me why I'm suddenly getting hated on for a perfectly valid answer? stackoverflow.com/a/43566288/5645656
 
@CardinalSystem Well, I can tell you you're using parentheses instead of brackets for the array...
 
Oh gosh
@AndrewLi I didn't realize what you meant! I am always getting [] and () mixed up.
 
Also good to address a problem even if it's not brought up by the OP like I said in my comment. The OP may be trying to assign to arguments which, because Java isn't PVR, won't give the effect they want. Even if they didn't bring it up in the post, address it and tell them
 
@AndrewLi ??
 
@CardinalSystem I didn't down vote your answer (I don't have enough rep to spare for dv's), but if you answer questions that not well-posed you are likely to get downvotes. See stackoverflow.com/help/how-to-answer
 
1:14 AM
@DavidRawson What do you mean you don't have enough rep? You got 3.2k!! XD
 
@CardinalSystem Well eventually I'd like to join the mile high oops I mean > 10k club :-)
 
@DavidRawson you broke my pinger!!
xD
I'm gonna have to start paying people to post java questions
 
JAL
1:34 AM
o/
 
2:02 AM
Does anyone here know HTML?
 
@CardinalSystem Define "know"
 
Able to program in
 
You mean "able to program in extremely fluently" or "able to stumble along in?"
 
The second one
 
Then I think I count
 
2:04 AM
Do you know how to create a space the same size as a space created by pressing "tab"?
(I'm using JLabels)
 
As in "4 spaces" or "the next tab stop?"
 
4 spaces
I tried just using space bar, but it didnt work
and this is not something I would post a question on, or I would loose my asking ability xD
 
     might work
 
ill try
worked :D
 
2:54 AM
QPaysTaxes has started reviewing!
 
3:52 AM
@DavidRawson We are using the metric system here :-P
 
@Olaf oh, someone got my joke
 
@CardinalSystem Java is not my language, but the question looks verry unclar to me. How would one assign a value to a function invokation (i.e. result)?
 
 
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5:06 AM
@Olaf Its OK, @NobodyNada helped me out. Also, I don't understand your question "assign a value to a function invocation", mostly because I don't speak computer need yet xD
 
5:21 AM
@CardinalSystem Simply put, OP has a function call on the LHS of the =. Thjat would mean the result of the function call will be assigned the RHS of the =. Which might be possible in Java (not sure), but is certainly not something a beginner should have in his code.
 
5:39 AM
@Olaf What?? I think we are both talking about totally unrelated subjects
 
@CardinalSystem "Also, I don't understand your question "assign a value to a function invocation"," - I ignore the rest of your post as it is completely unclear.
 
@Olaf I am very confused right now. What are we talking about??
 
Olaf was talking about your previous question, Cardinal, "why are people hating on my answer"
 
Oh
From way back
 
@CardinalSystem How about following the links? See the small arrows on the left of my comments?
 
5:43 AM
It's nice that you tried to help out, but the question didn't really make any sense. The user didn't understand enough about Java to communicate an answer effectively. Hence, Andres put the link to the Java tutorials as a comment rather than an answer
 
I thought he was talking about my HTML question
@Olaf its hard for me to use mobile
 
@DavidRawson That's exactly why the answer got downvotes (and what I pointed out).
 
Can someo
 
@CardinalSystem I can't see that (and I actually don't really care - no offence).
@CardinalSystem The comments are linked!
 
But I'm using mobile.
 
5:47 AM
@CardinalSystem sigh so?
 
So I can't see the linked stuff
Hold on
Just loaded it from my prev activity
So what do you mean by LHS and RHS? I'm really bad at abbreviations
Too accustomed to essays
 
left hand side / right hand side
 
Ok
@Olaf are you talking about this line increment(i) = 1;?
@DavidRawson thanks by the way
 
He's talking about that line, I believe. It's just incoherent rubbish. It would be very difficult to help with that question here at SO.
 
Well, Olaf's proposal was completely true. The problem with the OPs code is that he was trying to edit the args by recursion
But he didn't know he was recursing
He was trying to use it like an array
 
5:57 AM
@CardinalSystem I don't think we can even draw that conclusion - we'd have to make an assumption and guess.
 
Why is that?
 
Why is it that you are so sure that was the intention of the question? 5 other users flagged it as unclear
 
I'm a little lost here. I was supposed to be happily sleeping hours ago, so I am desperate to finish is conversation
 
@CardinalSystem Of course I do.
 
@DavidRawson is was unclear. But I still was able to understand what the OP was trying to achieve by going through a mental trauma (hyperbolically speaking). And my understanding was right because I got best answer
 
6:02 AM
@CardinalSystem "And my understanding was right because I got best answer" - not necessarily.
It could have been that user just wanted to chat. I suspect it wasn't a serious question to begin with.
 
It would have added probably if my thumbs weren't so big
 
@CardinalSystem "And my understanding was right because I got best answer" - Considering the quality and uncomprehensibility of the question, I somehow doubt OP is a good reference. Such questions are not helpful for any other user. Remember this is not a personal help-line, but should be a reopsitory of questions and answers helpful for future readers, too. So refrain from answering such questions,. Instead ask for clarification before answering.
 
I am not trying to attack or defend anyone here, I'm just trying to understand why a valid working solution was downvoted
 
@CardinalSystem I think you got multiple very good reasons for that. See it as a way to tell you "don't answer obviously unclear questions".
 
I feel as if we are getting aggressive, although I intended for this to be a little advice on answering
^^ was delayed because big thumbs xP
 
6:08 AM
@CardinalSystem I wasn't being aggressive. I said "it's nice that you tried to help out". I sincerely believe that. Your intention was good, the execution was perhaps a little misguided.
 
No one is getting aggressive here. It is just not really pleasont to repeat every posting twice. Speaking clear words is not aggressive. Sorry, but "I'm using a mobile" is not a good excuse.
 
Sorry...
I interpret things awedully wrong when I'm sleep deprived
Awfully*
 
@CardinalSystem So get some sleep and - possibly - find a computer ;-) Postings will show up latter, too; I'm not expecting instant reply and can follow a thread over days
 
I'll drop in tomorrow......... Night guys
 
:36761304 Just don't put something in my words I did not write and you will be fine. I rarely yell.
 
6:59 AM
I'm either too tired to sleep, or my mind is too busy for me to sleep. Either way I need to get up at five and this is not helping
-_-
 
7:28 AM
@SmokeDetector Should we undelete?
 
I disagree @Hemant. Sometimes we have new users that have great questions. Remember, we all started somewhere with zero reputation and have had our problems we needed an answer, that only Jon Skeet can provide. Instead of a seperate community we need to identify a way to improve the general quality of the site. Triage for example is failing dramaticly. — Christian Gollhardt 1 min ago
 
@AndyK maybe he wants to make one of his own? That would be too broad.
 
what you think!!
 
hey Jan, dunno man... that's what I've put in my closing flag
next time some guy will ask us how to win the lottery...
damn...
 
@Hemant +1'd Christian's answer
 
7:38 AM
@jan
Thats really frustrating to answer and think about
unless there is a strict guidelines for the issue
 
 
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9:52 AM
> can u come to the chatroom please, its an emergency!
 
uck
 
user1593881
10:15 AM
Hello all.
 
user1593881
How are things and stuff? :P
 
> sir i want to be your friend on facebook please accept my friend req please..
 
user1593881
Lol what?
 
@RawN It's getting better, thanks
@RawN I'm going over old comments and I find that kind pearls ;)
 
user1593881
@rene Nice.
 
user1593881
10:21 AM
@rene I made few friends that way. Are you sure it wasn't my comment?
 
You up and about again @rene? :P
 
@RawN nope, it wasn't you but I have added your profile into my backlog. I'll come to it ...
@Adriaan yeah, just around 9:00. You had a safe trip home?
 
@rene sure did. Dropped Ferry off midway; was home a quarter past eleven
Can't wait for the extended edition in June
 
Yes, this was a good trial run ...
 
I'll make sure to provide a fresh bottle of Ardbeg
 
user1593881
10:27 AM
I don't even have a Linked -In profile. Probably not the wisest of moves.
 
@Adriaan deal!
 
Glad to have made another successful advertisement.
 
@RawN depends on what you hope to achieve with it.
 
user1593881
@rene Move to Western Europe or Singapore.
 
user1593881
I just had enough of brain dead jobs in my patch of the globe.
 
10:30 AM
@RawN Sverige! Lots better than Western Europe :P
 
user1593881
@Adriaan Or that. Northwest is fine.
 
user1593881
If I remain in SE parts I risk developing dementia at the age of 38.
 
when that kicks-in you'll no longer notice ..
 
@RawN South-East of what?
 
user1593881
@Adriaan Europe.
 
10:35 AM
@rene you speaking from experience?
@RawN ah. That's one of my favourite holiday destinations at least
 
@Adriaan not for myself, thanks. But observing my mom gives a bit of clue how that must be.
 
user1593881
@Adriaan There is hardly any development in these parts. Only brain dead maintenance.
 
user1593881
@rene How likely is it someone will go through ones github account and say: "This is awesome, we need this, here's the ticket and a work permit"?
 
user1593881
@Adriaan Sverige is nice. But in my experience they require me to know the language. Not sure if I could get away with English only.
 
@RawN Everyone speaks English; as a student I could get by without any knowledge of Swedish (I'm Dutch, just lived there half a year). They might require you to learn Swedish if you want to obtain a citizenship though.
 
10:45 AM
@RawN it is not the only criteria I use when I'm looking for candidates but it can help. Not sure about work permits though.
 
I got an official letter of the immigration board that I being an EU citizen was welcome to stay and work as long as I want in Sweden. Might be that businesses require you to learn the language, but in my opinion it's merely polite to learn the language of the country you're living in.
 
user1593881
Thank you both.
 
If you're a citizen of an EU member state, you are by law free to live and work in other EU states
 
yeah, but don't go to Britain now I think?
 
@rene probably not, no
you can as long as they are in the EU, but chances are high you'll be kicked out in March 2019
 
10:52 AM
Yeah, I don't expect the negotiation outcome to favor or leave the current benefits untouched.
 
@Olaf Yep, the script is a bit weird. Sometimes downvotes which are minutes apart are reversed, sometimes they aren't. Moderators can't see the individual downvote remaining after a cleanup. So you can use the /contact page and ask SE to revert the last downvote. Usually they do that within an hour.
 
@BhargavRao Meh, not worth the hassle. But they should really get that stuff more consistent. Bad juju and the like ... ;-)
 
user1593881
My town is 6hrs drive away from Vienna yet not in EU. Sad state of affairs here.
 
@Olaf Yeah, I've asked about the script in the mod room as well. They've mentioned that the script is being improved. Just need to wait some 6-8 weeks :/
 
@BhargavRao So I better keep my loose mouth shut for 16 weeks ... pew, I don't think I can. Anyway, thanks for asking and the info!
 
user3956566
10:58 AM
allo
 
@YvetteColomb \o
 
@YvetteColomb olla!
 
user1593881
Maybe I should bite the bullet and go back to Philippines. Good money to be made back in the days.
 
@AshishAhuja no imho. "who is responsible for this tool" can be edited out to make the Q on topic. The answer should then be deleted, as that's part of a tool rec (or, as I'd prefer to say in this case: customer service)
 
user1593881
:P
 
11:01 AM
@Adriaan that's what I thought, thanks! The thing which confused me is that it has 4 cvs on that reason o_O
 
@AshishAhuja now the bigger question: should one ask for deletion on that answer?
 
not sure. I think it should be deleted as it is basically link only, though it can be debated
 
user3956566
@AshishAhuja not sure. I've left it
 
ok, ty!
I'll track it with yam in case it gets wrongly closed
@yam alive
 
BR's on him already
 
11:11 AM
@Sam Yam's dead
 
Oh damn, I need to do it in the reverse order
Rollback and then undelv
 
Smokey doesn't understand the ö apparently. I thought it was a random keybash name first
 
Yeah, Python2 problems
The UTF support is quite bad there
 
lovely title that
 
user3956566
@Adriaan lololol
 
user3956566
11:18 AM
@BhargavRao a much better edit
 
Yep.
 
@Adriaan html encoding issue
 
11:40 AM
@SmokeDetector looks perfectly fine to me
 
@Adriaan yep, has attribution as well
 
@SmokeDetector same as last, perfectly fine. not even a clickable link that; simply author-comment in the code
 
12:28 PM
@FireAlarm that actually looks like mathematics
 
That's what Fitch does
 
@user2314737 home work is not a close reason.
 
@user2314737 please make that too broad
 
OT:other->pure math would work
@rene I don't think that's too broad from a mathematical point of view.
 
12:35 PM
anyway, too late now
@Adriaan yeah, correct.
 
@SmokeDetector spam or LO?
 
@Adriaan You are not a privileged user. Please see the privileges wiki page for information on what privileges are and what is expected of privileged users.
 
Thank you for mentioning that for the umpteenth time. Don't want to be love.
I think, other reasons might apply too.
 
1:06 PM
@SmokeDetector a 10k might want to check that; looks like self-vandalism+self-delete
 
@Adriaan It was both
 
@Machavity hmkay. He seems to have done that to the other Q smokey reported by him as well.
 
Bleh, shoulda used v
still getting the hang
 
 
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2:36 PM
@SmokeDetector uhm, what
 
 
1 hour later…
4:02 PM
L
 
@CardinalSystem ?
 
Uggh!! I can't send lengthy msgs :_:
And my hair got messed up :_•
@Olaf sorry about last night man. I looked over the whole thing this morning and realized the situation. When I said it was hard because I was using mobile, I meant the chatting was hard, that is why you appeared hostile to me.
Also, my original answer was posted from PC, so mobile difficulty is unrelated to the answer quality. Unfortunately I won't have access to a PC for a while, so I still will have trouble understanding which messages are being replied to. Also, I cant remove my answer with the app, so I will have to wait for PC access before I can do so.
 
user1593881
4:43 PM
"Donna con te" - awesome song.
 
user1593881
Oldies but goldies.
 
user1593881
@rene Hello sir, will you accept me on facebook?
 
user1593881
Haha.
 
@RawN No
 
user1593881
Haha
 
4:46 PM
Me being blunt and direct
 
user1593881
Yet protecting the development team from harsh managers.
 
user1593881
Tsk, tsk, tsk.
 
user1593881
@rene 10 bucks says...
 
I rather keep my money in my pocket ...
 
user1593881
Emily Blunt.
 
user1593881
4:54 PM
@rene Have you managed remote teams?
 
@RawN good choice
 
user1593881
@JanDvorak Thanks man. Heard it in a local supermarket. Shazam to the rescue.
 
5:37 PM
ot-su
 
5:51 PM
55s, not too shabby.
 
yeah
 
@RawN yeah, I did. That is hard.
 
6:08 PM
!!/reboot
 
!!/dead
 
!!/rip
 
!!coffee
 
sips fruit beer
 
@BhargavRao do you notify the one who plagiarised?
 
Yes, A nice fat warning goes to them
 
Do the reviewers get a warning, too?
 
They used to, now they don't
 
user1593881
7:15 PM
"Fantasy" by Earth, Wind & Fire. A must have.
 
user1593881
Music used to be good back then.
 
7:37 PM
Heh @RawN - there's always good new music, it's just a bit harder to find it these days
The internet has made it easier to publish, and thus much harder to find stuff you like.
 
user1593881
@halfer You got a point there.
 
@RawN: do you like beat poetry? I recently discovered Kate Tempest, and wow, there is some passion there. This is music that is seriously moving. I am trying not to over-listen to it!
Linky to a live performance, if you're interested: youtube.com/watch?v=3xu5HL1Xl64
 
user1593881
@halfer Never heard of it. I will take a peek at it nevertheless. Thanks.
 
Good headphones mandatory :)
 
@halfer what will happen if you over-listen it? Will your ears start bleeding?
 
user1593881
7:52 PM
I used to like some touchy feely evergreen songs. Now I am all house and progressive. :P
 
@rene: haven't got there yet, will turn down the volume from 11 to 10 if that happens :)
 
user1593881
Just don't turn it down to 0.1. Binary machines are oblivious to that number.
 
user1593881
Funny to think the world runs on machines that can't represent 0.1. Or 0.2.
 
They sure can. Rational(1,10)
 
user1593881
Nope they sure can not.
 
user1593881
8:03 PM
You can not store 0.1 in memory and my ex gf is never coming back. Sad facts of life.
 
user1593881
Your double x = 0.1; is never 0.1
 
Watches argument of the meaning of "to store" unfold.
 
user1593881
@BaummitAugen Haha, as binary, that is. As binary.
 
@RawN Still not true. Every rational number has a representation as pair of integers, which you can of course store in binary.
 
user1593881
Yet built in types such as double and float can not.
 
user1593881
8:09 PM
That's what I meant.
 
the double value of 0.1 is what the double precision representation of 0.1 is. That its math isn't the same as that of the decimal floating point number 0.1 doesn't matter.
 
Hehe, in , you better be technically correct all the time. Lot's of pedants there.
 
user1593881
True, true.
 
@rene I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
user1593881
"Thanks luv"?
 
8:18 PM
Thanks luv
 
user1593881
Anyone had their gboard keyboard stop working suddenly?
 
user1593881
Like 20 times a day.
 
user1593881
@!!£#&_# Monday tomorrow. And work.
 
@RawN what even is a gboard?
 
user1593881
Google keyboard on Android.
 
8:23 PM
50% of the words in that sentence are bound to end-up as a failure
 
rene passed a audit!
 
user1593881
Here is the official description: "Gboard is a new keyboard from Google."
 
What are its features? Loosely coupled and occasional connected?
 
it also lets you perform Google searches from any application whenever you enter a celebrity name
 
user1593881
Apple much @rene?
 
8:34 PM
Not at all
 
user1593881
I do have some modified Android version on Xiaomi phone and gboard is a must have. Otherwise it's some Chinese keyboard.
 
@rene You've reviewed 40 posts today (of which 1 was an audit), thanks! The time between your first and last review today was 19 minutes and 49 seconds, averaging to a review every 29 seconds.
 
user1593881
While in China my whole team bought the same phone model. It was a hit back then.
 
@Machavity blam
 
8:58 PM
Any moderators around?
 
cricket sounds
 
user1593881
@NisseEngström Maybe the rest of us can help. Please let us know what is the issue.
 
user1593881
We are flat hierarchy. No moderators and bosses alike.
 
^ Yep
 
This question is an exact duplicate of the one mentioned in comments. In my opinion, it should be deleted on the spot. I see no value whatsoever in dup-closing it. Should I flag a moderator?
 
9:08 PM
I would say no @NisseEngström, mods should be called for things the community cannot handle
They have a high workload already :-)
 
@NisseEngström Dupe close, roomba will get it.
 
Having something closed and not deleted is fine, there's probably half a million of those lurking on the site!
 
(I suppose you could also flag it, works for answers.)
 
@NisseEngström Downvote and dupe it. If it gets to -3, ask for a deletion vote
 
I've +1 on your close vote Nisse
 
9:12 PM
@halfer That's why I was asking if there was any moderators (with some spare time) in here.
 
I think a mod would just say the same as above - the dups are six years old anyway
 
@SmokeDetector not spam, that for sure. No idea what it is though
 
@BaummitAugen Will Roomba really delete dup-closed questions? The FAQ says "...will automatically delete closed (not as a duplicate)...". (In this particular case, it will probably be deleted according to point 9, though.)
 
Should die even if not closed now that it has negative score.
 
9:39 PM
@BaummitAugen Yes, that's what the FAQ's point 9 says. As far as I can tell, only dup-closing a question will not get it deleted.
 
By itself not, right. It preserves the "has no answers" state.
 
@BaummitAugen If anything, it takes longer to delete it. I think I get it now. Thanks for your help.
 
 
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11:40 PM
@PraveenKumar Close all teh questions!!!!!
 

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