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12:35 AM
@KevinWorkman Regarding this [cv-pls] request: For questions which are exact duplicates, but by two different users, you should use a custom flag to inform the moderators about the problem. Unless the target has an up-voted, or accepted, answer, we, regular users, can't close it as a duplicate.
 
12:48 AM
Is this question on-topic? Or should it be migrated?
 
1:31 AM
Should be closed. Is not a programming question. There's no code to work with
 
2:02 AM
Not as bad as upvoting a lazy typo question just to reduce the chances of it being closed and deleted along with any answers.
Is DIY.SE unusually harsh? :P
Well, I try my best.
And I haven't started drinking yet tonight.
I avoid it because it tastes bad. But I've been giving it another try lately. Maybe I'll have a good time! \o/
Did you know that many users honestly don't know that proofreading, tutoring, code-writing, etc. are not the purpose of SO?
 
@QPaysTaxes How is your C project going?
@QPaysTaxes I'll take a look at it.
@QPaysTaxes But can you get dinner at the same time as reading chat?
 
QPT.
Go eat.
Oh.
I have literally no idea how that question is getting upvoted.
He really wants as much ice cream as possible.
I like how your dinner involves ice cream, though. Dinner of champions!
 
@QPaysTaxes Ice cream doesn't sound like a dinner that is very good for you. Tastes good, but...
@QPaysTaxes A food group all it's own. :-)
 
2:30 AM
Pizza and milkshake? Are you on SO chat while at a diner with friends?
But pizza and milkshake aren't naturally occurring substances in a dorm room.
That is a sweet dorm building.
 
2:45 AM
@QPaysTaxes I too, got ice cream for dinner. clink
high-five?
 
user3956566
yum high ten
 
Speaking of which, I need to eat dinner, because I skipped to dessert
Lol, there's pizza in the fridge
 
user3956566
so healthy! hahaha
 
My dinner is at the end of a 2-mile walk.
It's a tradition I've been maintaining for nearly two days now.
 
user3956566
3:01 AM
that's so good
 
4:16 AM
If all the beginning Python students who asked questions more appropriate for a tutor than for SO hired me to tutor them instead of posting a question, I would have more money than I currently do.
 
That doesn't say much
 
It'd be a living wage.
In the California Bay Area.
 
still nothing
California is far too hot for my skin
 
A few hundred USD per day.
It's too bad I can't add "and I am a tutor at such-and-such website, send me a message there" to my "your question is not appropriate for SO; you need a tutor" comments.
@QPaysTaxes This is only a guess, but I think it might get me banned forever and my username changed to "mud." :P
Razor? What is this device of which you speak?
 
Nah, the longest suspension available for mods is one year
 
4:24 AM
 
@Rob Aren't you wondering how come all of them have recent activity?
 
@Rob It appears that the guy who is posting answers on all these is also a spammer (they're linking to their own article).
 
@QPaysTaxes If you give it 1-1.5 years, that's generally enough time for a prophet-tier beard.
 
Rob
@4castle Yeah, I've already custom flagged it and left them a comment
 
But then how do you rescue crumbs from falling to the floor?
Crumbs are inevitable.
I blame baked goods!
 
4:28 AM
He means using a plate
 
Plates are just a fancy floor.
 
they're easier to clean
 
With a bigger z-value.
 
also more hygienic to eat from
 
There is that as well.
Still, some foods have explosive crumbage.
Rice cakes.
They are crunchy and tasty, with many fat-free varieties.
They are also the same size as cold-cut slices.
Okay, off I go for my dinner walk.
 
 
1 hour later…
5:40 AM
Back from my walk and only got rained on a little bit!
 
Morning o/
 
@TigerhawkT3 Sweet! Keep it up, that's a great habit to start
 
I've been doing in on and off for the past for years, but now I really have to do it every day, to un-gain 20 pounds and lose an additional 10.
 
"Walk" as in walking, or "walk" as in jogging?
 
5:59 AM
@QPaysTaxes I am now reading about your language.
 
@Nkosi That question has been edited. It's possibly on-topic now (though I'm not familiar with ASP.NET or C#)
 
@4castle checking...
 
@QPaysTaxes Can functions have default/variadic/etc. arguments? I don't know how to do the good recursive Fibonacci solution without either default arguments or a helper function.
 
@4castle still POB and TB
 
6:34 AM
stackoverflow.com/a/43038927/5210517 -- Can someone comment here so they disengage? Apparently my rep wasn't enough to make my say effective.
Also morning
 
@M.A.R. He has a point though
o/
 
@Seth He? Well, he's a bit heated, so I see no reason that discussion should continue
He first yelled abuse anyway
\o
 
The user who posted the answer did abuse the "Answer"-function :o
 
Well, then nothing prohibits them from editing
 
Nope, but it's still an abuse
I could call people names & edit it out later on. That wouldn't undo the abuse :p
 
6:40 AM
But editing a bad answer into a good answer is encouraged.
 
@Seth Yeah, and the response is to flag and move on . . .
Or comment and say why the answer is still not good
 
Aye c:
Nonetheless, he has a point (as do you).
 
Looks like a placeholder answer situation.
 
@TigerhawkT3 Exactement! StoryTeller is upset about jakesomethingsomething editing their answer-like thing
Which isn't outside the scope of rules
You are aware the edit history is available for all to see, right? And such duplicitous tactics to accuse me of abuse... my my... — StoryTeller 20 mins ago
Which makes this comment definitely uncalled for
 
The accepted answer to that Meta question says that such behavior is actionable if it forms a consistent pattern.
 
6:46 AM
Big if. This is a one-time drama that came to my attention only because Queen caught one of the comments as possibly non-constructive
 
The obvious course of action now is to monitor this user's answers and immediately comment on any NAA to kill the grace period and ensure the preservation of the evidence so that a mod can ban them. (Note: don't actually.)
 
Morning \o
 
\o
 
7:10 AM
o/
 
7:33 AM
Chinese dots are weird.
They're like Persian zeroes
 
.0.0.
 
8:25 AM
@Henders I just realised that you don't have review privileges on metasmoke, I've fixed that up now, which means that you can use things that use the API (e.g. our userscripts)
 
@angussidney Ah, right. Yeah like FDSC?
 
Yeah
 
Nice thanks Angussidney :)
 
FDSC, AIM, FIRE and a couple of others
 
@M.A.R. :D
 
8:29 AM
@Henders What?
 
Did you not hear that? ;)
 
@Henders yeah
 
I just didn't get why you're grinning
 
Always grinning here :)
 
 
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10:06 AM
@AshishAhuja your lucky no one is on or you might have got called out for posting that many cv requests in a row.
 
@Lankymart uh, I thought you could post upto 5 cv-pls'es per day however it might be?
 
how can i improve this question? Wanted some help but already got downvoted twice.
 
@nickborti I think the two comments are pretty self-explanatory.
 
didn't see that before
 
Especially the latter is good
 
10:14 AM
Yep, and check out How to Ask for the formula to write a great question.
 
@nickborti Your questions is Too Broad as it is asking for code (not all asking for code questions are TB though). You may wanna check out the links in the second comment.
It can also be OT as you're asking for off-site resources
 
ohh god. is there any way to stop downvoting? :/
 
I'd not migrate that.
 
> This is a very suspicious question, the author's profile state that they are the founder of the company the link seems to point to. It looks like a poor attempt at disguised SEO.
^ Mod-flagged the question.
 
@tripleee you just got ninja'd by the spearrel ...
 
10:22 AM
so it seems, sorry about that /-:
 
@SmokeDetector hehehe. WordArt avatar for a web designer :D
@FireAlarm Went No MCVE;there's an unclear on it as well
 
@Adriaan yup, I casted the unclear. No MCVE is also fine IMO
 
@nickborti edit the question to improve it.
 
^ to get around the 'mostly code' issue I guess..
 
11:30 AM
Morning
 
\o
 
Morning :)
 
11:52 AM
anyone with Python indentation knowledge, please check my edit
 
seems legit, but we can't be sure there isn't supposed to be a mistake
 
OK, true that
 
12:32 PM
afk
 
kaf
 
fka
 
12:51 PM
@JonClements you're called out here for a deletion of an answer.
 
1:03 PM
Hello. First time here. How does the filter score work?
 
waffles
 
@CÅ“ur Hullo, welcome to SOCVR
 
@CÅ“ur click the link "FireAlarm-swift" to see a brief description of how that bot works
without intimate knowledge I guess it means the Bayesian filter arrived at a 79% confidence
 
Oh thanks.
 
@QPaysTaxes Wut
 
1:06 PM
@CÅ“ur ^ that's yours
in Charcoal HQ on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 15 mins ago, by CÅ“ur
May someone add a close vote for missing code in-the-question-itself on https://stackoverflow.com/questions/9151365/set-same-date-in-diferent-inputs-wit‌​h-multiple-date-format ? I've put my vote 10 days ago and still no other voter.
 
oh, arigato @tripleee
 
@CÅ“ur hello. I'm one of the developers. You may wanna come to SOBotics or FireAlarm Dev so that I don't spam this room with the explanation ...
 
@QPaysTaxes Ahh. Actually, 'kaf' means 'foam' in Persian, and it flows better in the mouth than 'afk', so that's why I usually say it after someone says 'afk'
BTW, guyses, @CÅ“ur came in to ask for VTC's on this question:
in Charcoal HQ on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 20 mins ago, by CÅ“ur
May someone add a close vote for missing code in-the-question-itself on https://stackoverflow.com/questions/9151365/set-same-date-in-diferent-inputs-wit‌​h-multiple-date-format ? I've put my vote 10 days ago and still no other voter.
That's why I said they should come here. Be gentle
 
@CÅ“ur due to the many questions that need close votes, we normally focus in this room on the fresh or active questions. The q/a pairs from years ago without recent activity or meta attention will be left alone. That is a pitty but priorities , blah blah etc
 
already quoted by triplee, but thanks M.A.R
 
1:12 PM
@M.A.R. read up the transcript
 
@rene Are you asking me to read?
 
no, to pay attention
 
Are you asking me to pay attention?
 
yes
 
Well, that's hard work. Sorry
 
1:13 PM
bring us the money, M.A.R
 
Brings the money
 
Are you all limited to 50 (or a bit more) close votes a day, or some of you got unlimited close votes?
 
@CÅ“ur 50, except mods.
 
So I guess it's a hard task to get this 10k queue empty.
 
(SO is slightly ridiculous like that)
...I'm not blue here. O_o
I know
 
1:19 PM
@QPaysTaxes I don't use the review queue, it has too less filters. I either cv on the cv-pls, or go through unclosed firealarm reports
 
*inaeinsert pluplug ffor Literature.SE here*
 
@Mithrandir flags for spam
 
OogOog, itsit's deadead agagain
My phone sometimes does that :/
 
It doesn't matter how or where you close vote but please do use them.
 
@QPaysTaxes yeah, but you can't cv on q's which have like 4 cvs, and are going to expire. I prefer to cv on q's which have cv's which are going to expire so that those cv's don't get wasted
 
1:23 PM
I'll be helpful. I flagged this as a dupe, still open.
 
@Mithrandir voted
 
@Mithrandir made it a formal cv-pls ;)
 
morning!
 
Hiya gunr
 
o/
 
1:30 PM
@gunr2171 \o
 
Ello
 
Welcome back to your regularly scheduled schedule.
 
@rene thanks ;)
 
@NathanOliver well, mostly
 
you have a meeting?
 
1:32 PM
6am-10am meeting every Wednesday from now on
not thrilled about that
 
@gunr2171 4 hours? O_o
 
yep......
 
6am? o.O
 
@gunr2171 what on earth will be the topic that will take 4 hours every week ...
 
1:34 PM
@rene grooming user stories for the following week
 
@gunr2171 what is your backlog like? 1000 stories?
 
no, like 8
 
you're kidding right?
 
I know, 4 hours should be a bit insane
 
They are doing user novels instead of stories
 
1:36 PM
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ not much I can do besides roll with it
 
On the plus side due to this kind of preparations your planning meeting only takes 15 minutes?
 
@rene uh, how about 2 days?
 
when do you work then?
as in, write code.
 
that's a great question
 
Thanks
 
1:38 PM
during lunch breaks? lol
 
I'm often hired to ask these kind of questions
 
now granted the "planning meetings" are 2 days because it involves the entire Org. and will plan for 15 weeks of work
 
That is not so agile ...
 
^ that's the new thing we're following
so, you tell me
 
oh my, the consultants took over
 
1:40 PM
yep
very yep
 
I like how it even has an expand a level to even reveal more crap
 
wow, I didn't see the expansion... :'(
 
Crap rain
 
@gunr2171 ahahah that's damn funny, page source:
> WP Content Copy Protection Premium (YOOPlugins Copyright Protection) script
We add DRM to all teh thingz!
Which of course won't work in the end :<
 
@gunr I see one problem with that. There's no step anywhere for fixing bugs
 
1:45 PM
"Powered by Visual Composer - drag and drop page builder for WordPress." rofl
 
@gunr2171 so how many teams do you have at that company again. I recall they weren't that big.
 
8, about 5-8 people per team
 
- We only program using the mouse
 
@kayess LOL, where does it say that?
 
@TylerH "fix bugs as you go", but right. Bug fixing isn't planned very much
 
1:46 PM
@gunr2171 lol
 
@M.A.R. in HTML source
 
Ok, well, you might need some coordination but not something that comes with a flow diagram
 
wow 101 chat comments...what have I missed? :D
 
@Lankymart gunr at a meeting - surprise!
 
We're redesigning the agile workflow of gunr's workplace. He is going to present that on Wednesday. It will be awesome.
 
1:49 PM
Meeting? Is that just an excuse to drink coffee and fill a few hours? :p
 
Yes, that are the ones.
 
@rene When he walks in, he'll shake his fist at us and sneer "You rebel scrum"
@Lankymart Smoke Detector merged with Fire Alarm to form SmokeSkyNet. It's now terminating all open questions on SO
2
 
YES!, please let it be true
 
v?
 
1:55 PM
i'm gradually catching on.
:)
 
Join the club :p
 
it's like "I lost the game". lol
 
GOD DAMN IT
I lost the game
2
 
ROFL
ok now its a habit.
 
someone have a good autocomment for that post?
 
1:57 PM
i think a flag is in order?
 
multiple rollbacks are auto-flagged
 
sweet. see. learned something else today.
adding that to the knowledge graph.
 
Don't vandalise your question. — ArtOfCode 2 mins ago
 
I was hoping for something with more words
 
> Don't vandalise your question, please
 
2:01 PM
:P
 
lol
 
:D
 
> Or expect rene at your doorstep
 
na, in that case we would sic Kyll on 'em
 
waffle
 
2:02 PM
(today I learned to correct spelling of "sic")
2
 
Sam
2:17 PM
@yam stats
 
Yam
I'm currently watching 282 posts.
 
@Samey \o
 
@gunr2171 I was just about to respond to your previous line before I saw this one :-P
 
user3956566
@gunr2171 that has 3 stars? we've become mundane
 
2:25 PM
yo
 
user3956566
@Machavity you're hilarious
 
user3956566
@gunr2171 yo yo
 
yo yo yower yangers
 
user3956566
yo yo yuge yogi yoghurt yodels
 
we're all crazy
 
2:32 PM
hey I just noticed, I passed 12k rep
that means 7 delete votes :-)
 
woot
 
@TylerH congrats.
 
user3956566
congrats
 
use them wisely. they disappear just like that
 
you should perform the fusion dance with gunr
then you will have 10k
 
2:39 PM
power overwhelming
 
@QPaysTaxes lets not discuss that here ?:) There were meta fires earlier about that..
Yes
 
user3956566
 
I don't think there's an issue with that here considering bounty hunting is a prescribed aspect of Stack Overflow, and some moderators publicize that they award 500rep bounties to any good canonical answer they find
as long as the discussions are few and far between
 
@YvetteColomb YAML?
 
@Yam Further revision by me, it may be reopen worthy now
I'm not really familiar with Google Maps API or those types of questions though
so it might still be too broad
 
2:52 PM
Hmm, hard to say. Good edit tho
 
user3956566
@TylerH interesting Q and As
 
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