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4:00 PM
u only excludes username-specific checks
 
user4639281
Oh ok, so its fine to use fpu if it's a real question?
 
yup
 
user4639281
Awesome.
 
user4639281
It would be nice if Closey didn't listen to Smokey, because you can't use '-' unless it has been around longer than a minute, otherwise Closey complains.
 
@TinyGiant @gunr2171 @Sam ^^^
 
4:05 PM
hun?
I don't understand
 
user4639281
If you tell smokey gone or - it will remove the message, then Closey complains about internet connection
 
weird, ping me next time smokey says something so I can see that in action
 
user4639281
k
 
user4639281
It says something like Message not found, check your internet connection
 
Aug 1 at 3:27, by Closey
error happened!
0: Could not retrieve data of message 24813802. Do you have an active internet connection?
oh yeah
 
user4639281
4:08 PM
^^^^^ that
 
hum, yeah. I should make a list of people to ignore
 
user4639281
yeah
 
I'll work on that soon (working on work now)
 
user4639281
put @AFamiliarFace on that to because that's the account smokey is running on right now
 
user4639281
or not
 
4:10 PM
and Zephyr
 
user4639281
I guess its back as smokey
 
user4639281
does he ever say anything?
 
no, good point
don't have the rep
 
user4639281
ahhh
 
but doesn't need to, he's read-only here
reports back to the LQ HQ
 
Sam
4:11 PM
@durron597 Yeah, I think that's a bug with ce.net.
I haven't checked for sure yet though.
 
hum, it liked that...
 
user4639281
It doesn't do it when a regular message is delete though
 
SOCVR ChatBot version 1.0.0.0, running for 2 days, 3 hours, 3 minutes and 30 seconds.
 
@TinyGiant reply to tiny's message
 
user4639281
4:16 PM
Really odd
 
wait, delete your "reply to my message" message
ok, yeah, no idea
 
user4639281
Maybe messages posted using the api are different somehow
 
user4639281
or removed by the api
 
Sam
I think it happens when the message is instantly deleted.
 
someone is going to be reading the transcript later on and is going to get really confused
 
user4639281
4:17 PM
lolz
 
Sam
Lol.
 
user4639281
!!/alive
 
"This is an "i'm having this problem too" answer" stackoverflow.com/review/low-quality-posts/9056191
 
Sam
Strange.
 
user4639281
@durron597 Downvoted.
 
user4639281
@Sam very
 
@TinyGiant You out of LQP reviews?
 
user4639281
@durron597 I failed a borderline audit and got review banned for another month
 
@TinyGiant geez. when will you learn to peek?
Post about it on MSO, you'll probably get your ban lifted.
 
user4639281
Well, I was trying to follow the advice on meta and give posts the benefit of the doubt. The answer looked like it attempted to answer the question and, while it did link to a blog post by the author, I didn't think it was necessarily delete-worthy (based on the advice on meta). But it was deleted as spam so I doubt they'll let me off the hook.
 
user4639281
4:26 PM
Until the policies and audits get figured out I'm just going to stay away from the queues
 
@TinyGiant Smooth, didn't you just get a review ban dropped?
 
user4639281
Yeah, passed a whole bunch of audits and failed one
 
Yeah, I kinda wish passed audits were factored in, if only a little
 
Sam
@TinyGiant I'll do some more tests later.
 
user4639281
@KevinBrown I think that the audit system needs some major work
 
user4639281
4:34 PM
It should be calculated the same as flags. If a certain percentage of the audits (>N audits) you've reviewed in the past X days you have failed then you aren't allowed to review.
 
user4639281
Sliding window.
 
user4639281
!!/coffee
 
@TinyGiant brews coffee for @TinyGiant
 
4:50 PM
@NisseEngström boom
 
Thanks.
 
Heh, just found a question where the problem was not reproducible, but it was obvious to me why - it's because the MCVE was incomplete; it was also obvious to me (because I've seen it before) in exactly what way the MCVE was incomplete. I answered it, but maybe I should just VTC and move on
 
user4639281
@durron597 The latter
 
user4639281
Unless you are Chaotic Good
 
@TinyGiant Are you sure? If the question is still answerable?
If anything I'm most compelled to VTC as duplicate, but I know the asker isn't going to be able to figure out why it's a duplicate.
 
user4639281
4:56 PM
Yes but, if the mcve is incomplete and the problem is not reproducible then it has two reasons to be closed.
 
user4639281
And AFAIK we're not supposed to answer closeable questions.
 
@TinyGiant But it's incomplete and not reproducible in a very specific way that someone with experience in the tool it's tagged with will recognize and know how to solve
 
user4639281
If their code is incomplete as opposed to their example being incomplete and that is the problem, then go for it.
 
well, basically it's this: Gson's deserializers will break if there's a circular reference in the field
 
user4639281
Seems like an answer
 
4:59 PM
he was getting a Stack Overflow error so I knew the "bean" he posted had a circular reference, even though he didn't include it
He then admitted in the comments that he didn't include all the fields in his question
 
user4639281
Ahhhh, ask him to include it then
 
I did
Waiting on that now
 
user4639281
Then wait, if he doesn't do it... punch him in the face
 
No have a circular reference. — Dimmy Magalhães 11 mins ago
You can VTC it if you want, I haven't decided if I'm going to yet.
 
user4639281
If he doesn't include the proper code, let me know and I'll vtc
 
5:04 PM
@TinyGiant He didn't edit, but checkmarked me. Whatever
 
user4639281
lol
 
error happened!
0: The remote server returned an error: (404) Not Found.
 
user4639281
^^^ That one
 
@Closey @gunr2171 @Sam See it?
 
@durron597 Sorry, I don't understand that. Use commands for a list of commands.
 
5:06 PM
yep, thanks
 
-10
Q: i want to find factorial of a number without using if,return,loop,global variables only using recursion

Har JasI want to find factorial of a number without using if,return,loop,global variables using recursion

some of the comments needs some flags
I hate running out of comment flags early
 
Sam
@durron597 Yeah, I saw.
 
@Unihedron I flagged three of them but honestly, the question will get roombaed. I'm not going to keep flagging.
 
user4639281
@durron597 I was going to put a custom flag for removal of all of them, but ditto @durron597
 
@TinyGiant: That was my thought too, but why bother.
 
Sam
5:11 PM
@Closey Stacktrace would be nice.
 
@Sam Sorry, I don't understand that. Use commands for a list of commands.
 
user4639281
Mod's would probably look at the question, laugh and decline it because it isn't worth their time.
 
user4639281
There should be a review queue for comments though
 
so close!
but the privilege is so useless!
 
5:13 PM
@Unihedron 5007 is not that close :-P
 
no, I meant 15k
 
Oh, did you mean to another delete vote? :-P
 
you have that "next privilege" indicator itching to get filled up
 
@Unihedron I knew what you meant. That's why derp face :-P
 
Just annoy someone to get some serial downvotes
 
user4639281
5:15 PM
@rene You can do that just by closing questions now.
 
we will see
 
ding. time for 10x serial downvotes for me to lose the priv
 
You don't like the privilege?
Your "problems" are a luxury, you know?
 
go put it on a frame
it's your first protection for the land
for the people
 
@Unihedron I already called my plaque maker
He told me to brush my teeth
 
user4639281
-4
Q: Is it okay to ask question having intention to have historical significance?

manetsusThere are a lot of question in the site which has "historical significance" like this one. My question is, is it okay to ask this type of question intentionally? If no, why not? one would get much more reputation comparing to the other questions in the site, why should one miss the chance? If y...

 
should this be a dupe since the self answer was to copy another SO answer?
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Q: How can I use the insertion operator with polymophism

benfI want to implement a composite pattern where I can print the contents using std::cout When I print, the base class insertion operator (operator<<) is used instead of the most derived type. How can I cause the most derived type operator to be used? Example: #include <iostream> #include <memory>...

 
anyone here using the SE android-app?
 
5:38 PM
I
 
user4639281
 
user4639281
Close as duplicate
 
@Unihedron can you see profile views on your profile somewhere?
this: 4,787 profile views (for my profile, that is)
 
ummm
How do I get to my profile?
 
I dunno, I don't have the app....
I assumed you know how to operate the device
As it is android it is all counter intuitive so try that
 
5:41 PM
The app doesn't seem to come with that information
I'll screenshot
 
there you go assuming again.
 
yep
 
user4639281
We need a gnome extension for chat.
 
I don't allow gnomes here
 
user4639281
lol
 
user4639281
5:43 PM
 
That is just an x-windows manager, right?
 
tnx
 
there's only top posts and top tags
 
OK
 
5:44 PM
@Unihedron that looks like an Android... but I see what looks like an AVG icon
 
@Unihedron You need to charge your phone
 
I don't care enough of my phone. A lot of bloatware came preinstalled and I never bothered getting rid of them.
@NathanOliver It is charging, I just grabbed it from the charger shelf to activate the app and put it back right after.
I started charging it an hour ago at 2%.
 
@Unihedron I use that in an answer of mine, is that OK?
 
chat user contributions are licensed cc-by-sa 3.0 but you can just use it
for sure
 
tnx
 
5:48 PM
@rene What about fiesta gnomes?
 
user4639281
@rene Desktop environment, Metacity is the window manager.
 
I lost track about all those unix/Linux stuff....
 
user4639281
well gnome has been the main one for a very long time
 
user4639281
It doesn't have as much of the market share anymore because there are so many others out there, but it is the most mature
 
Yeah, I used that when I entered a rad-race with a friend of mine. The mono stack we used only had gtk bindings that worked with gnome (or we couldn't get to run on KDE if I recall it correctly).
but we are talking 10 years ago or so
 
user4639281
5:59 PM
Yeah, a lot has happened in the past ten years
 
user4639281
Gnome 3 is pretty wicked.
 
@TinyGiant Isn't Compiz used nowadays?
 
user4639281
Wayland is going to change the world
 
Windows Vista for life!
what? why is everyone staring at me?
 
user4639281
@KevinBrown Gnome3 actually use gnome-shell, not metacity or compiz. I believe unity still uses compiz
 
6:07 PM
Ah, right. Forgot about Unity
 
user4639281
@gunr2171 You picked the worst operating system to love. Even Microsoft hates vista.
 
yup :)
this is when I say that I'm happy I just upgraded to W10
 
user4639281
yuck
 
user4639281
I just upgraded this laptop from windows xp to fedora linux
 
@gunr2171 I'm still using Windows ME, my favorite OS
 
user4639281
6:09 PM
Windows versions are hilarious
 
user4639281
Windows CE,ME,NT
 
there is only 2 things holding me back from linux: video games and visual studio
 
user4639281
@gunr2171 Wayland will change that.
 
@gunr2171 Steam + Mono = time to switch
 
yes, linux gaming is gaining traction, which is good news
 
user4639281
6:10 PM
When you can play games using a web browser that talk directly to your graphics card, you'll think differently
 
user4639281
webkit for wayland is going to completely change application development. When you can have web applications that can talk to the kernel, what will be the point of developing applications that require being installed on the system?
 
sounds awesome
 
user4639281
As long as you have a good internet connection lol
 
first world problems?
 
@TinyGiant when they have 40 gb installation requirements?
 
user4639281
6:15 PM
Well, and there is no reason why there can't be a shift to the web programming languages for desktop applications. It would make those languages progress much faster.
 
user4639281
@durron597 But how much is the running requirements? If the application can run on the server how much of it does the client actually need to run it?
 
as long as I don't have to use javascript...
 
@gunr2171 At least you don't call it Java
 
@durron597 I was going to use that as a counter-argument :)
 
6:17 PM
@gunr2171 You still can
 
oh wait, I was going to use the "Wat" video, haven't seen that one
will watch
 
user4639281
Well, in ten years if there was a massive demand for javascript to change then it would.
 
@Unihedron Why are you using AVG on a phone?
 
@TylerH It came preinstalled.
 
srsly? What phone/brand so I can avoid it
 
6:19 PM
@gunr2171 It basically talks about how javascript takes over the world and replaces all other languages by talking directly to the kernel
 
the current trend of JavaScript is "lets see what non JS things we can do with it" ...like run servers
 
yeah, that confuses me. Why node.js? it's a client-side scripting language, to run as a server?
 
user4639281
@durron597 Lol, if that is actually what it says, that is hilarious.
 
user4639281
@gunr2171 Because its fast
 
fast != good
 
6:21 PM
@TinyGiant It's awesome. Watch the video
 
user4639281
My son is sleeping so I can't right now, but I will later.
 
@TinyGiant Set aside like 40 minutes though, it's pretty long
 
user4639281
K
 
@TylerH Probably the carrier is the only to blame there
 
user4639281
42
Q: Un-gray questions in review queues when hovering over them

NathanOliverSince we now are returning a post to normal highlighting when hovering can we implement this in the review queues as well. For myself it is not too bad but it still strains the eyes trying to read the attached question when it is grayed out. This would improve accessibility and make reviewing e...

 
user4639281
Quite popular, but no one has said anything
 
> was aiming to create real-time websites with push capability, “inspired by applications like Gmail”.
This was back when Gmail didn't actually push things
 
> Relational DB tools for Node.js are still in their early stages; they’re rather immature and not as pleasant to work with.
 
I remember getting an invitation to use gmail
 
hum, that's like all I do
 
6:26 PM
I felt so special
@gunr2171 most people who use node I think say to use mongodb or postgresql
 
Can't say I've ever seen a Node application work well with postgresql
But Mongo is pretty common
 
@TinyGiant I think that is because since it is already implemented in part of the system they are just showing support for it to be implemented in reviews as well
 
@gunr2171 Node's package manager is also pretty good. Like NuGet
 
user4639281
I know, it's just really odd that there hasn't even been a witty remark
 
yup, I've experimented using it with my friend. It is nice
 
6:28 PM
No idea why, but I keep confusing @TinyGiant with @TylerH. Well, I do know why (their avatars and name are close)
 
Yes, my face often gets confused for an onion.
 
As a Node/Meteor user most of the fun I have is with all the asynchronous and many patterns and freedom of the whole thing.
 
user4639281
Lol, I should change my avatar. I actually was thinking that same thing earlier
 
But you have to be pretty masochist to enjoy JavaScript. Most of the language is garbage leftovers...
4
 
@TylerH are you an ogre? do you live in a swamp?
 
6:30 PM
^
@gunr2171 Look, cakes have layers, too, but they make you fat
 
: )
 
better stop there; I've only seen the first one
 
same, and that's probably for the better
 
@Kyll considering it was made in a week, though, it's a pretty robust language
 
@TylerH Actually SpiderMonkey was, I think. The language got lazied over for a year or so
 
6:32 PM
in The Whiteboard on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, Jan 23 at 19:51, by durron597
It has also renewed my hatred for javascript.
 
Meh, there's no hatred to have for JS. Or rather if you hate it you're just hurting yourself (on top of the hurting of JavaScript itself)
 
@Mysticial - To be honest, I don't know that I've ever seen that happen. Almost all people trying to manipulate the voting system are extremely lazy. These aren't criminal masterminds we're dealing with. We're talking about people who create sock puppet accounts that have the exact same name as their main account. My personal favorite was [username]'s sock puppet that was named "[username] vote up account". — Brad Larson ♦ 3 hours ago
 
@Kyll Brendan Eich wrote the first version of JS in ~10 days for use in Netscape, but it wasn't called JavaScript then
 
user4639281
I like JavaScript. It is a hell of a lot better than it was 5 years ago.
 
6:35 PM
@TinyGiant The thing is, while many languages cut off the bad parts, JS has still the crap it had 5 years ago
 
-3
Q: javascript sucks

user3481843Exactly what the title says... So something that follows this...? If you check any of these checkboxes: Western North America Eastern North America EMEA APAC Direct Sales The “All” checkbox must be unchecked If you check “All”, all of the checkboxes listed above must be unchecked. Edit: I wen...

 
user4639281
Yeah, because people still use 10 year old browsers
 
user4639281
JavaScript (/ˈdʒɑːvəˌskrɪpt/), also known as ECMAScript (the untrademarked name used for the standard), is a dynamic programming language. It is most commonly used as part of web browsers, whose implementations allow client-side scripts to interact with the user, control the browser, communicate asynchronously, and alter the document content that is displayed. JavaScript (at least the strict subset asm.js) is also considered an "assembly language of the web" – a compile target of source-to-source compilers – for making client side web applications, using other programming languages, supported by...
 
I can't find the whole "10 days" reference
Or rather, I can't find a detailed explanation of the myth
 
6:38 PM
On it.
 
> ActionScript 3 is another well-known implementation of ECMAScript, with extensions (see below).
 
brb family food
 
OOOOHHHHH, that makes a lot of sense
 
tl;dr the tiny window for creation is the major reason JS is so messy
its whole community joined because they liked the ability to be lazy and not clean up their mess
so that's a large reason why it's stayed messy; its pundits and contributors like it that way
(there's a link at the end of that article to a youtube interview with Eich, if people are interested)
 
6:55 PM
LQP audits should not contain answers by martijn pieters.
 
@durron597 link?
 
It made it really easy to spot the audit
 
user4639281
@NathanOliver It doesn't show you the correct user when you're first reviewing it
 
user4639281
Or that it was accepted, or the score.
 
6:58 PM
It did on mine when I was served the review
 
user4639281
Really? I think it is supposed to change the user name and set the rep low.
 
only ~17 more upvotes on my Chrome position: sticky answer to get the populist badge \o/
I need to see if there are other answers of mine that are closer
 
See, evidence that audits aren't always bad
 
the votes and check mark were gone but the name was there.
 
7:02 PM
Yes? It's because people complained back when they used to use random low-rep users
 
user4639281
Ahhh, I didn't know that it was changed
 
Side note: I actually upvoted that answer the other day because it popped up in my feed on my phone
 
user4639281
7:19 PM
Would this be a good candidate for a historical lock?
 
user4639281
370
Q: What is the difference between Polymer elements and AngularJS directives?

Dan KanzeOn the Polymer Getting Started page, we see an example of Polymer in action: <html> <head> <!-- 1. Shim missing platform features --> <script src="polymer-all/platform/platform.js"></script> <!-- 2. Load a component --> <link rel="import" href="x-foo.html"> </head> <body>

 
user4639281
It's far too broad and POB.
 
Ignore my close vote here. It was only so that I could reopen, clear the close votes, and remove the question from the close vote queue. — Brad Larson ♦ Aug 8 '13 at 22:06
I doubt you'll get support from mods.
 
user4639281
I don't want to close it, because it is useful, but I do think it should be historically locked
 
@TinyGiant If something shouldn't be closed, then it shouldn't be locked.
 
user4639281
7:23 PM
I meant I think that historical lock would be better
 
user4639281
As I doubt that it would actually stay closed
 
Historical lock is only for controversy lock/unlock or delete/undelete wars
At least, it is on SO.
 
@TinyGiant I'd be more concerned about that question if it had terrible answers
Or 30 of them
 
user4639281
But it isn't an example of a good on-topic question
 
user4639281
It is too broad, and it could be considered opinion based
 
7:26 PM
I'm going to disagree on the opinion based
 
user4639281
Yeah, I not so much pob, but definitely too broad
 
user4639281
@durron597 That comment was just deleted.
 
@TinyGiant hm
 
user4639281
@Jon, any input? Close or Historical Lock?
 
@TinyGiant whistles
My vote is still on keeping the question open
 
user4639281
7:34 PM
Why though, if anything it will encourage new users to ask similar questions, and the same question asked today would be promptly closed.
 
user4639281
I don't think it should be deleted, that's why I'm favoring historical lock.
 
My impression was that locks are for when a question is so off-topic that it should be deleted, but has content so good that it should live
 
user4639281
Well, it is off-topic enough to be closed, and closing is supposedly a final step before deletion, but it also has really good content so it should live. It doesn't need any other answers... so a lock sounds like the best fit.
 
@TinyGiant It's not causing any harm staying open though.
 
user4639281
5 mins ago, by Tiny Giant
Why though, if anything it will encourage new users to ask similar questions, and the same question asked today would be promptly closed.
 
user4639281
7:40 PM
It encourages new users to post similar off-topic questions
 
@TinyGiant I think you should take it to MSO.
 
user4639281
Maybe after pizza, afk
 
Now this question, on the other hand, should probably be locked:
33
Q: Cannot Connect to Server - A network-related or instance-specific error

Sasa ShreeI get the following error when trying to connect to SQL Server: Cannot connect to 108.163.224.173. A network-related or instance-specific error occurred while establishing a connection to SQL Server. The server was not found or was not accessible. Verify that the instance name is correct...

 
hi
 
7:49 PM
Ola
@Closey starting
 
@rene May Shog9's Will be done.
 
sure
@Closey next 5 tags
 
Refreshing the tag listing. Please wait...
@rene The next 5 tags are: 199, 135, 133, 128, 116
 
passed python audit
 
Sam
passed sanity audit
 
7:55 PM
1
Q: Can this 274k+ view question get a historical lock please?

durron597Cannot Connect to Server - A network-related or instance-specific error This is a really, really bad, unsolvable question that has managed to accumulate over a quarter million views in two short years. However, the one answer it has is excellent. It has a delete vote on it. Can it please be his...

 
I don't think this Q is ok, but I'm unsure what to do with it. Is it pob? stackoverflow.com/q/31841396/2675154
 
> Thank you for reviewing 40 close votes today; come back in 4 hours to continue reviewing.
 
@rene Thanks for reviewing! To see more information use the command last session stats.
 
@honk I would say so
 
user4639281
@honk pob
 
7:58 PM
Ok, thanks, flagged it that way
 
Got an answer that basically dismisses the OP's question
@Closey last session stats
 
@rene Your last completed review session ended 2 minutes and 23 seconds ago and lasted 6 minutes and 27 seconds. You reviewed 40 items, averaging a review every 9 seconds.
 

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