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6:58 AM
Wondering about the status of @RebolBot alive?
I searched for "@RebolBot do/ideone"
@RebolBot alive?
 
Ok, so I have to mention the bot in the beginning
Anyway, interesting stuff in the search
Most people tend to prefer ruby? Or because ruby is mentioned in the example?
A more interesting language would've been better as an example
 
7:24 AM
@GeekyI yeah
@RebolBot do/ideone ruby { puts "I speak Ruby, too, if people have kept Ideone working" }
Must be broken ...
 
@GrahamChiu what do I need to hack on the bot and maybe get it to work
 
@GeekyI Get what to work exactly?
 
Or.. how hard would it be I should say
 
@GeekyI how proficient in R3 are you?
 
Not much, more Rebol2
But I've got Ren-c building now so..
 
7:36 AM
well the issue is either they've deprecated the interface we're using, or our credentials no longer work
 
Better than before
Also, have you heard of repl.it @GrahamChiu?
 
It's been a few years since I wrote this .. you'll have to read the code for the ideone interface
i guess the best way would be to install an instance of the bot locally talking to a custom room and see if it works
since you don't have access to the running instance
Or, we could put some debugging code in the IDEone call
rebolbot was mainly written to allow us to execute rebol code here .. but since try.rebol is down, and kaj doesn't seem interested in restoring it .. I'm not sure what future rebolbot has
 
Yeah, it would be much better if ideone or repl.it supported rebol natively
 
I don't recall why we chose ideone instead of repl.it
 
What prevents it? Has simply nobody asked before? (I think I should try and see if I can run the bot myself first)
Perhaps repl.it didn't exist at the time or was new
 
7:43 AM
there were a few we looked at ...
and I think it was just so that rebolbot could run for other chat rooms
 
8:11 AM
@GrahamChiu Wait, I forgot to ask.. why not support all of them? As a driver / provider plugin. Might be more resilient
 
@GeekyI lack of time
 
I wonder where is @Sgeo seems like my type of person :p
OK
 
 
3 hours later…
11:30 AM
@GeekyI We have an emscripten build of Ren-C, but last I checked repl.it was deprecated or the people making it gave up or something.
 
 
3 hours later…
2:54 PM
Hi @rebolek how's it going?
 
 
1 hour later…
4:19 PM
Hi @MarkI, fine, thanks. I’ve just returned from Vsetín where we had a gig with our band, so I am bit tired.
 
4:40 PM
@rebolek I hope the gig went well. Enjoy some well-deserved rest. I am looking forward to chatting with you when you can.
@HostileFork Where 'arg-quoted holds the entire context (block) of the call site? Might as well have the function specifier too, mondo macro magic ...
@HostileFork Sounds fine to me, since any occurrence in interpreted code of a path with a subarray is the same as (use [sub1 ... subn] [sub1: sub-array-1 ... path-without-subarrays]).
Actually, that's not strictly true, but for the purposes of the argument in hand, it's close enough. We can presume perfect substitution.
And, sigh, I forgot the subn: sub-array-n before path-without-subarrays.
 
5:28 PM
LOL alert: anyone else think the following is a bug?
>> help ('source) = 'source
true is a logic
>> help source = 'source
USAGE:
        SOURCE 'word

DESCRIPTION:
        Prints the source code for a word.
        SOURCE is a function value.

ARGUMENTS:
        word (word! path!)
== false
It actually also looks like the equals? operator allows unset!s on its LHS (something I didn't expect) but that's not the bug, sorry for the conflation.
 
 
1 hour later…
6:41 PM
@MarkI R3-Alpha bug. Ren-C handles help ('source) = 'source correctly, in the sense of same behavior as help source = 'source
 
@HostileFork Tx. So presumably the "bug" that is corrected is how quoted parameters take parenthetic arguments?
 
@MarkI I don't know why R3-Alpha does that, and the evaluator has been fully rewritten, so...
It could be related to lit-word decay or something, well probably not, but eh. It was all very ad hoc.
One thing I'm trying to do with path evaluation is weave it in to the core of Do, so that paths have frames...and we can get rid of REBPVS.
But the tricky part is that path evaluation needs to be able to set things. So it's not just a matter of being able to make a value at each step, as simple as the infix operator a / b / c equivalence to a/b/c, if you have to do a/b/c: 10. Each step doesn't evaluate to a value as we know it, but a reference.
I'm contemplating the existence of a reference type as an internal implementation detail, which is transient and can only live in a frame output slot, and it will instantly turn into the value itself if the operation that acts on it is not a SET.
 
 
2 hours later…
8:32 PM
@HostileFork what would it take to run it?
 

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