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12:15 AM
posted on August 31, 2014 by Peter Wood

On 1 Sep 2014, at 02:52, Arnold wrote: !!!!!!!!!!!!! If you read this message on SO chat !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!! You need to subscribe to the !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!! Red mailing list !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!

 
12:51 AM
@Feeds Not forgetting the possibility that people follow the feed by other means so as not to have to subscribe to follow conversations. Very odd way to do things...
 
He's just being perverse
Or, challenging us to use Rebol to solve this issue.
Which we could do by taking the Red feed, filtering out all his messages and creating another feed for SO.
 
It's already a processed version of the Google Groups feed (fixes titles and links). It could be filtered also. Such a good use of our time—making things less useful.
 
> probe [<ēaa><a><a><a>]
 
However as a courtesy, will make it happen. Will create two feeds—one with full Q/A, another with just Q and filtered to remove posts by certain contributors that'll replace the feed here (unless anyone has any strong objection to omitting Answers).
>> probe [<ēaa><a><a><a>]
 
1:07 AM
>> probe [<a><a><a><a>]
 
$ r3 --do "txt: {probe [<ēaa><a><a><a>]} halt"
>> ? txt
TXT is a string of value: "probe [<ēaa><a><a><a>]"
>> load txt
Segmentation fault
@RebolBot alive?
 
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[<a> <a> <a> <a>]
== [<a> <a> <a> <a>]
 
@giuliolunati Looks like you found a bug there!
 
>> probe [<ēaa><a><a><a>]
@rgchris Yes, this is minimal text I found that cause crash...
@rebolbot alive?
 
I think Rebolbot is getting timed out by Try Rebol. Will get back to you in a sec I imagine.
 
1:12 AM
@giuliolunati I'm a-liiiiive!!!
 
>> probe [<a><a><a><a>]
 
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[<a> <a> <a> <a>]
== [<a> <a> <a> <a>]
 
>> probe [<ēa><a><a><a>]
 
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** Syntax error: invalid "tag" -- "<ēa"
** Where: to case load do either either either -apply-
** Near: (line 1) probe [<ēa

>>
 
>> probe [<ēaa><a><a><a>]
 
1:13 AM
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** Syntax error: invalid "tag" -- "<ēaa"
** Where: to case load do either either either -apply-
** Near: (line 1) probe [<ēaa

>>
 
??? :-/
 
>> probe ["ēaa"<a><a><a>]
 
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["ēaa" <a> <a> <a>]
== ["ēaa" <a> <a> <a>]
 
>> <a><a><a>
 
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== <a>
 
1:23 AM
>> <ēaa><a><a><a>
 
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** Syntax error: invalid "tag" -- "<ēaa"
** Where: to case load do either either either -apply-
** Near: (line 1) <ēaa

>>
 
unicode problem ?
>> "ēaa"<a><a><a>
 
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== <a>
 
Only in tags...
>> <ē>
 
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** Syntax error: invalid "tag" -- "<ē"
** Where: to case load do either either either -apply-
** Near: (line 1) <ē

>>
 
1:26 AM
>> "ē"
 
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== "ē"
 
 
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2:47 AM
rgchris has made a change to the feeds posted into this room
 
@rgchris I think we only need the first post in any thread. If interested, the reader can go to the thread.
 
Took the opportunity to tidy up my feed code. Now by popular(??) demand, we will only get the initial post on a thread, and as a courtesy no posts from anyone calling themselves 'iArnold'.
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If you want to subscribe to the unfiltered feed, it's at: rebol.info/feeds/groups.feed
(is an improvement on Google's own feed)
 
 
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4:10 AM
@rgchris Beyond the call of duty!
 
 
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8:30 AM
posted on September 01, 2014 by Ladislav

[Comment] Unless changed to something feasible, this proposal should be dismissed. To be constructive, here is a way how the goal of the proposal could be achieved, as opposed to the original proposal: Define a new keyword COPY-TO with the syntax: COPY-TO word rule and with the behaviour similar to COPY word TO rule rule

 
 
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9:52 AM
Keep forgetting to post my CodeGolf answers here that I promised fork :(
Here's one I posted couple of days ago... codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/1003/…
A shorter answer as already been accepted however this is the second shortest !!
There are some shorter answer which Rebol solution can never beat here. However it will be shorter than most other solutions given :)
And on another post @HostileFork recently gave a Rebmu solution which beats the accepted answer - codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/36218/…
 
 
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2:12 PM
posted on September 01, 2014 by fork

[Comment] @Ladislav Not sure I understand here, as you have said that the proposal doesn't do what it is proposed to do. >> parse "abc$$def" [copy left until "$$" copy right to end] By definition it's supposed to give you "abc" for left and "def" for right. As in--that is what the proposal *is*. Renaming it COPY-TO and saying "oh, then it could work" makes no sense. Perhaps what you mean i

 
2:48 PM
posted on September 01, 2014 by Ladislav

[Comment] "Not sure I understand here, as you have said that the proposal doesn't do what it is proposed to do." - it looks that I need to explain to you why this proposal would not do what you think it would do. See below for the explanation. Also, please note that I am not the one comparing it to the other UNTIL proposal, and that thinking that I do is yet another source of misunderstanding h

 
3:23 PM
posted on September 01, 2014 by kealist

[Comment] I didn't get it at first, but Ladislav is right. This functionality needs to be defined as an alternative to COPY rather than an alternative to TO/THRU because the UNTIL proposal isn't meaningful without COPY.

 
 
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5:15 PM
posted on September 01, 2014 by fork

[Comment] Okay, so it relates to defining a behavior for UNTIL as a functional unit in its own right when not used with a COPY, and having that unit fit a modular pattern of other match rules that interact with COPY. A better counterexample would be something like: rule: [until "b" thru "c"] copy "abc" rule Fair enough to say this UNTIL doesn't stand on its own, and would wind up being fram

 
 
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6:43 PM
I wonder if we could just use a word after TO to skip: [COPY abc TO "$$" THEN "def"], could be flexible too: [TO "$$" mark: THEN "def"]
 
 
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8:04 PM
@rgchris The central problem remains that there is no COPY var TO rule construction, really only COPY var rule is the base. It creates issues of "reaching into" the rule, you start asking if it's supposed to detect for instance instance COPY var rule THEN ... when the rule is [TO ...].
>> parse "abc" [to "a" to "a" (print "test") "bc"]
 
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test
== false
 
So TO isn't one of the "must advance the input" rules
 
 
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10:01 PM
posted on September 01, 2014 by giuliolunati

[Bug] Segfault occurs (in random way) after a tag containing some chars is evaluated.

 
>> probe [<ēee> "" "" ""]
>> probe [<eee> "" "" ""]
@RebolBot alive?
 
; Brought to you by: try.rebol.nl
[<eee> "" "" ""]
== [<eee> "" "" ""]
@HostileFork I'm a-liiiiive!!!
 
Somehow I missed this news item about 4chan users creating a campaign to get gullible people to destroy their iPhones. I am torn on deciding whether that was awesome or terrible.
 
10:41 PM
Unicode characters are dı̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̨angerous things .
 

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