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user5295639
8:01 AM
hello mates.., I'm an engineering graduate . I have a query and I hope someone would give suggestions for this ..
 
user5295639
I have good programming skills . I can figure the solutions to the worst Problems and Program them . But I don't know why I'm not being short listed in the Programming Round of Interviews.. I can even send few sample programs for you .., suggest me smthg...
 
user4433485
8:22 AM
Hellow lads!
 
8:36 AM
Hello =)
 
user4433485
why is the weekend so short
 
8:50 AM
Morning kids
@venudayyam Do you have experience on your CV? Or just education? Because no employer cares about that
 
user4433485
Heya Rudi
 
How're you Kat
 
Morning Rudi
 
Morning Fogster
 
user4433485
Doing good! yourself?
 
9:14 AM
Morn
 
user5295639
@RudiVisser . I don't have any experience .., but i have been practicing lot .. implementing own thoughs...
 
I'm awesome, tired but awesome
@venudayyam Do you have anything public to show though? At CV stage they want to see demonstrable evidence of your work - a public site (or project or similar) is perfect way to do that
 
user5295639
I have made a Game in C programming...Its a console snake game
 
user5295639
I haven't got any opportunity to show that...
 
user5295639
here's the link : youtu.be/yZwNduVSzLc
 
9:20 AM
@ДмитрийЧистик plz upload your code at dropbox.com
 
What jobs are you applying for Venudayyam?
I get a lot of CV's through
 
user5295639
I'm 2014 passed grad.. I started late . By the time i started apl
plying jobs ., it was late ...
 
What jobs are you applying for?
 
user5295639
after graduation i went on for few courses..
 
user5295639
Im looking for opportunity to work as a C or Java Programmer
 
9:25 AM
Yes but what jobs?
C or Java is a very broad range
 
user5295639
C programming , Data structures , algorithms , Core Java. .. Im good at all of these...
 
user5295639
C 11 & JAVA SE 1.7
 
user5295639
9:42 AM
give me some tips to write programs in a more efficient & impressive way...
 
@venudayyam You can even link to that video in your CV, why can't you show it?
 
user5295639
currently there are no opportunities for 2014 grads.. jobs are there for experienced one and fresher 2015 grads..
 
user5295639
I stay in Bangalore , India .
 
user4433485
9:59 AM
@RudiVisser I'm about to order my MP 950
 
XL?
Or baby
 
user4433485
baby :3
 
Awesome!
 
user4433485
Got small hands :3
 
user5295639
@RudiVisser . Thank for the chat rudi visser .. Yes i will link the video to my CV ....
 
10:01 AM
I ordered a Microsoft Wireless Display Adapter half price (thanks to Black Friday) in anticipation :D
You'll probably get yours before me
 
user4433485
Maybe! but -as usual- the white version is currently "Sold out"
 
user4433485
ughhh
 
user4433485
will probably take a few more days up to 2 weeks
 
Ah yeah I saw that, don't really care what colour it comes as - want a Mozo case for it! THey're gorgeous
 
user4433485
seems cool
 
user4433485
10:17 AM
Dont know about the cover yet :3
 
user4433485
I always like the Spigen covers
 
Ah the rugged ones, yeah the Mozo ones are just for styyyyle
 
user4433485
They are nice
 
user4433485
it has USB-C? What can we do with that?
 
Continuum!
 
user4433485
10:22 AM
:3
 
I'm just happy that they're providing both a fast charger (wired in USB-C to wall) and a USB cable
So we can have one to play around with and one to charge, not the same one, and not having to shell out for more USB-C cables
 
user4433485
yeh sounds good
 
user4433485
I wonder how safe and smooth the feature 'Windows Hello' will work
 
Do you think you'll have a use for Continuum?
I've heard it works well from a security standpoint but can be quirky
 
user4433485
Not sure, I havent read about it yet
 
10:25 AM
Like you have to stare straight into your phone at eye level which can be weird at first, but you can improve it by recalibrating several times
 
user4433485
can't wait to test it
 
user4433485
Continuum, isn't that miracast stuff?
 
Well yes it works over Miracast, but it's more the concept that I'm interested in, sec
 
user4433485
Thanks
 
user4433485
Cool
 
user4433485
10:34 AM
I don't get it why people are still buying Android phones :3
 
Customisation and app domination I think
iPhones on the other hand - nobody knows :P
 
user4433485
iPhone is for the stylish slick design:p
 
user4433485
lolz
 
Meh the S6 is prettier
 
user4433485
the iPhone 6 is a abomination
 
user4433485
10:42 AM
comparing it to the iPhone 5s..
 
It's pretty though
 
user4433485
ugh
 
user4433485
Not at all
 
haha
 
user4433485
The Galaxy S6 is prettier indeed.
 
user4433485
10:42 AM
but my Nokia 3310 was prettier as well :3
 
Well nobody's going to buy the Lumias because of their design, imo they only look "Premium" once you've applied the Mozo case to get the metallic edges, otherwise they just look plasticy
I can't decide which is better though, like my 930 with the metal edge and non-removable cover orrrrrrrr the ability to change it up + MicroSD
Guess it depends on how good the Mozo cases really are :D
 
user4433485
Wow
 
user4433485
mozo cases are trully gorgeous
 
Right
It's almost an essential purchase!
I want the red/gold one, looks different from anything I've seen before
 
user4433485
nice!
 
user4433485
10:55 AM
probably this ^: p
 
lol that's for the 645 isn't it? The budget ones
 
user4433485
Don't know, typed in google 950 Mozo cases ^
 
That's def not a 950
 
user4433485
I want something simple with a color, should be enough for me :D
 
user4433485
It's 930 I think
 
user4433485
10:56 AM
or not? dunno actually
 
user4433485
I just want a cover like those: p
 
No 930 doesn't have changeable covers, that is a 640
 
user4433485
ahh
 
user4433485
ah well
 
These are cases for 950, they're all leather atm but supposedly releasing non-leather ones soon
 
user4433485
10:57 AM
You know what I meant
 
user4433485
a cover like that one
 
Yeah
 
user4433485
if I take a leather cover.. it will die very, very fast ^^
 
lol what are you planning on doing with it :D
 
user4433485
Oh well I still work as a mechanic :p
 
user4433485
11:03 AM
My poor Galaxy S4 has been drowned in Gasoline for a few times already :p
 
Oh wow
You need to build like a waterproof box for it or something
 
user4433485
Yeah I should do that
 
user4433485
my iPhone died in 4 weeks :3
 
user4433485
Anyway it's time for lunch, however I'm quite afraid to go the store to get myself something to eat ..
 
user4433485
oh well cya in an hour:)
 
11:20 AM
Have fun!
 
user4433485
11:54 AM
thanks:)
 
user4433485
Oh hello @Maverik!
 
ohai :)
 
user4433485
How are you today
 
I see you're getting convinced to get the winphone :)
shleepy!
like drooling kinda sleepy :)
my weekends mess up sleep cycle -> sleep at 8am -> wake at 4pm
then can't properly sleep in the night
how are you? how was the weekend :)
 
user4433485
Well quite the same I messed up my sleep cycle as well ^_^
 
user4433485
12:05 PM
had a birthday, and I couldn't sleep so I've watched the Godfather once more time
 
user4433485
And now.. Can't barely keep my eyes open :3
 
user4433485
but I'm good, except for being stalked by some creepy person
 
user4433485
In the meantime, I am looking at the possibilities for moving to the UK :) I think I will move to Kent, but I have so many things to take care off before I can go
 
1:04 PM
Kent is nice though starting to get nearly as expensive as london
so keep that in mind when you do move there
if you intend to get a job in london, then you'll have an hour or a bit over travel at least but expense shuold work out
if you intend to work in kent, then this may be harder to match on expenses
 
user4433485
Hmmm well the traver isnt really a problem I enjoy driving. However, you're right about the expensive part.. Kent is quite expensive indeed. :o
 
didin't use to be but since more and more poeple are being forced to move out of london (cos its impossible to afford property in london for a normal person these days), kent's property prices are booming since it's right next to london and commute is still doable
 
user4433485
I can imagine
 
user4433485
Well I might have some friends where I can stay
 
user4433485
otherwise it might become difficult as I can see the rent prices
 
1:17 PM
well the good thing is that more and more companies are adopting working from home strategy so may be in a year or two, commute will become a once in a while thing
 
user4433485
probably but I will go to the UK in May I think
 
user4433485
Frist I wanted to go to Wales but many people told me to forget about wales lol
 
kent is nice if you want to retire
lol
 
user4433485
Lol =P
 
user4433485
Well I am not that "party type" anymore and I am not sure I can live in a big city :3
 
user4433485
1:20 PM
always lived in small villages
 
aye depends who you are
i like cities
keeps my mind occupied
thinking too much is not good for me
 
user4433485
:P
 
user4433485
Well I dont know really
 
Manchester!
 
user4433485
Why Manchester?:D
 
1:24 PM
Im in manchester, its ace
 
user4433485
Why do people love manchester that much hehe
 
Because it's awesome?
 
user4433485
and why exactly:p
 
user4433485
never been there
 
Well for one, me and @Asheh are here
and much less importantly, it's a great city that's ever evolving and growing
Also infinitely more friendly / less costly than the South
 
user4433485
1:28 PM
Well in Kent I have a few people that I've known for a few months that can help me that's why I am currently looking for Kent :) I don't know anything about Manchester, maybe I should read up abit :3
 
But nobody in Kent is under the age of 55
Where's the fun in this
 
user4433485
haha not entirely true!
 
user4433485
I've met a couple who lives in Kent and they are 27 and 32 :P well that's Okay :p
 
user4433485
but perhaps they are the only one under the age of 55 :p
 
Probably accurate yes :D
 
1:31 PM
yawn
 
user4433485
Lmao
 
@RudiVisser where abouts in manc?
 
Quays
You?
 
user4433485
Meh Manchester
 
??????????????????????????? Meh?????????????
 
user4433485
1:36 PM
It's that I don't know anyone there that can help me with accomodation etc
 
As in, providing somewhere for you to stay, or help you find somewhere to stay? Cos I'm pretty sure I can help you with the latter :D
 
Wilmslow
 
Oooh look at you
 
user4433485
Well both actually rudi ^
 
I work in wilmslow
I live in stockport :P
 
1:38 PM
Ah right, I take it back then :P
 
user4433485
Atleast there is no health insurance in the UK, perfect :p
 
user4433485
and road tax
 
Well our road tax is going up for all but 0 emission cars
ie. EVs
 
user4433485
It's not as in the Netherlands
 
user4433485
Will be a challenge to drive at the "wrong" side of the road
 
1:52 PM
I'm sure you'll be fine :D It's the wrong side of the car that will be terrible
 
user4433485
Definitely, Will enter at the passenger side all the time :3 nah.. I keep my own car :p
 
Then you'll prob be ok :D
 
user4433485
Lol, well I hope so
 
user4433485
My dad made it absolutely clear that he would not help me in the UK
 
user4433485
so I'm on my own ^^
 
2:06 PM
That's not a fun thing to have said to you
But it's fine cos you have us! Random chatroom programmer guys!
Woop
 
user4433485
He wanted me to go to Bulgaria but oh well :)
 
user4433485
I had something else in mind:D
 
user4433485
Oh well, I'll brb 5 minutes, take a smoke :3
 
Oh oh in Manchester I can introduce you to all my Bulgarian friends too
But if I did that I would also force you to quit smoking, sooooooooooo
 
user4433485
Bulgarian friends? In Manchester??
 
user4433485
2:09 PM
Amygod!
 
user4433485
Ok brb sec :D
 
I was with a Bulgarian for 3 years, I have a LOT of them
and you lot basically invaded the University of Salford about 5 years ago so there's hundreds of you here
Bloody foreigners etc :P
 
2:21 PM
Said the Swede!!
 
Damnit Mav I'm not Swedish, I'm HALF Dutch!
 
user4433485
Back:D
 
user4433485
Your name is very dutchie :p
 
Thanking you
 
user4433485
Have you lived in the Netherlands?
 
2:33 PM
Nope, just my dad lives there
 
user4433485
Owh..That sucks
 
user4433485
Oh my WPF project is going very well btw
 
That's awesome news
More SS?
 
user4433485
2:48 PM
SS?
 
Screenshotsss
 
user4433485
Ohh :3
 
user4433485
Sure!:D
 
user4433485
 
user4433485
I can make notes in my WPF application and show it on the web-app
 
user4433485
2:55 PM
now I need to find a way to get the notes on the WPF app using a loop but not sure how I will do that :3
 
sips coffee
 
o/
 
user4433485
is it that bad?
 
user4433485
:p
 
That's pretty cool @Катерина
 
user4433485
3:02 PM
Thanks!
 
Just periodically call a web api or something
In a Task so it doesn't lock up
 
user4433485
I think I can simply do a foreach loop?
 
user4433485
im some datagrid
 
greetings gentle-people
happy mondays
 
user4433485
yay You as well
 
3:08 PM
good $APPROX_TIME_OF_DAY
 
user4433485
Finally someone who finds me gentle j/k
 
3:18 PM
Looping for timer based activity -- sounds like a job for Quartz.net (nuget it)
have it do the heavy lifting and just raise the event when its done and then subscribe to it pushing updates to UI as needed
Rudi: half dutch still counts as foreigner ;)
 
user4433485
Well it's not looping through timer based activities yet, now it's only about looping database content
 
user4433485
and dutchies are cool
 
Hey, what's the recommended method of view navigation in MVVM? The approach I'm thinking is changing tabs, on a button command under certain conditions.
 
Derive from NavigationWindow, and use that Window's underlying NavigationService to navigate to other xaml pages.
 
Will this work in WPF?
 
3:28 PM
It is WPF, what do you mean?
 
ok had a quick glance, thought it was ASP
 
2 messages moved to Trash can
 
The Browser is ASP's NavigationWindow
 
If you don't necessarily need back and forth like a browser navigation, ContentControl + DataTemplates are another way to go
whenever somebody thinks of changing tabs to switch views, ContentControl+DataTemplate approach is what they're normally looking for
but of course it lacks the Navigation stack like a browser... so depends on what you need
 
ok, In my case the tab will be disabled, until a user selects a record for the data grid and clicks View Orders
 
user4433485
3:33 PM
Oh btw @RudiVisser any suggestion for the design?
 
so I'd have to check that a record is selected before allowing navigation. In this case I'm thinking doing the navigation in the VM is better
because the orders are specific to the selected user
 
3:46 PM
On a side note, should I have a separate VM for each tab on my Window?
At the moment the View's data context is set to the MainVM so it seems I should have one VM for each tab control?
 
Yes vm per tab is the way to go
but your description still says ContentControl + DataTemplate is the way to go
there's no need to check if the user selected anything, because if he didn't - there'd be no datatemplate to show anything and thus no content
 
ok makes sense
 
no need to deal with disable/enable / show right content - wpf will do all that based off the class type
your scenario is typical Master Detail scenario (you can search for this pattern name to see examples)
so yea that'd be my recommendation
we have plenty of discussion about it in this channel too, you can use the search bit in the top right corner to look through transcript
 
@Катерина Haven't done WPF for aaaaaaages, but I'd focus on the functionality first and refine UI later :)
 
ok will have a look into that, btw seen your comment on the VML question I had
 
3:57 PM
one of 178 stars also have Reed's recommendation on using the same ContentControl pattern (and may have some helpful links there)
 
Then look into MahApps or something - Mav is your man for that
 
please return Stefan @Maverik
 
user4433485
Thanks! Will do
 
user4433485
Tomorow, since it's time to leave the office :3
 
user4433485
Good evening everyone
 
3:57 PM
@NETscape I'm afraid thats not an option anymore!
Have a nice evening Kat :)
 
G'night Kat
 
user4433485
Cyaa:D
 
Rudi, you may want to clear your schedule for 2nd of Jan.. you'll likely be in London
 
@Катерина 'nite
 
for the thing i told you a while back.. confirmation just happened but i need to hash out details
 
3:59 PM
Anybody heard from Bradley?
 
nope
but then i haven't really been much active in the channel so doesn't count
 
Eh, not sure that matters.
 
so instead of binding my data context to the window, I could bind each tab control to it's own data context?
 
my experience with wpf has taught me that the more segmented your view models are the easier it is to develop
the window should still have its own data context, but each tab should as well
 
as julien said, you will have per tab vm.. if you are so insistent on taking the wrong route
but it'll be a hierarchy
you will always have a WindowVM - that then holds other vms for more specialized collections and scenarios
a ViewModel is nothing but a facilitator on top of your model that adds things that are useful to the view and only the view generally
 
4:10 PM
ok I'm interested in hearing the best route, you mentioned "ContentControl + DataTemplate" which is what I'm looking into at the moment
 
well its just googling it out now
 
you could for example have a page that holds a single content control, which is essentially a place holder
and then use data triggers to decide what content that placeholder should show
 
DataTriggers -- for once they didn't cross my mind -- clearly i've been away from wpf far too long :)
 
for eg, a single page with a content control that shows a login page when not logged in, and a main page when you are logged in
 
ok
 
4:13 PM
DataTriggers are the glue between ContentControl & DataTemplates
that & by assigning new singleton classes to DataContent property via VM
 
    <Style x:Key="SelectedControllerStyle" TargetType="{x:Type ContentControl}">
        <Style.Triggers>
            <DataTrigger Binding="{Binding ControllersVm.SelectedController, Converter={StaticResource IsNullConverter}}" Value="true">
                <Setter Property="ContentTemplate" Value="{StaticResource NoControllerSelectedTemplate}" />
            </DataTrigger>
        </Style.Triggers>
    </Style>
<ContentControl Style="{StaticResource SelectedControllerStyle}" />
that is a control i have beside a listbox that shows something when no item is selected in the listbox
there is another setter for when something is selected, i stripped it out
 
Julien, that Trigger Converter you used, you shuold use it as Default style & then override with trigger
 
that is a good idea
 
so <Style><Setter> and then Style.Trigger-> <setter> will override it as you need it to on case by case
but thank you for sharing actual code snippet.. i'm sure that helps in getting the idea across much better than just words :)
 
thing i am working on right now does lots of that, was convenient
 
4:18 PM
It seems if I use data template I don't need a VML
 
vml?
 
View Model Locator
 
vml's are more for setting up root level contexts aren't they? if you have a single page app with a tab or two i think thats a bit overkill
 
@Maverik Why what
@Maverik Oh poo
:D
 
@Julien okay makes sense, I was having trouble with my VML being located in the App.xaml. So that saves some time trying to resolve that
This seems like a good starting point
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Q: WPF TabControl with ContentControl

sop3kI have searched a lot on SO and didn't find answer to my problems. I want to use TabControl with MVVM. Here is how I add TabControl to MainWindow.xaml <Window.Resources> <DataTemplate DataType="{x:Type models:PartnersViewModel}"> <views:PartnersView /> </DataTemplate>...

 
4:24 PM
wpf has tons of nice controls to play with
 
Microsoft make me sad sometimes
 
you'll have to experiment
 
NO IT DOESN'T
 
umm how does that make you sad?
 
Because I was being retarded
I haven't made a single commit to anything today, I really can't focus
 
4:26 PM
@BrianJ in that question: the last answer is exactly what we're suggesting
i "multi-task" like that everyday
then i do mass commits!
 
Yeah me too normally but I think right now I've added 3x 2 method interfaces
All day
Bah
 
posted on November 30, 2015 by Karl

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4:50 PM
hehe my replacement phone cover has been dispatched before my phone is released, awesome
 
 
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6:28 PM
posted on November 30, 2015 by ericlippert

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6:54 PM
i kinda wish i just was a XAML+animation designer
 
7:17 PM
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9:51 PM
okay Maverick, I'll have a look at the option and post here if there are any issues :)
 
10:48 PM
Hi all, question regarding getting VSIX [stuff] into my Solution
I just downloaded (and ran) the 3.9.1 version of SQLite for Universal projects (doing a Win8.1/Win10 app)
However, I don't know how to get [whatever it is that was created (?) when I ran the VSIX file] into my Solution
Can anyone help me with this? Or at least explain the nouns and verbs that I'd search for on the web?
The MSDN page from which I downloaded it (visualstudiogallery.msdn.microsoft.com/…) was super-unhelpful and tells me nothing about how to actually use the [plugin?]
 

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