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12:48 AM
Sorry for taking so long to answer, I have no idea right now, tomorrow I'll check it. I just arrived home
 
 
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10:25 AM
Morns
 
o/
 
11:17 AM
Morning
 
jeez you guys were sooo off-topic yesterday .. took nearly an hour to sync up!
it was easier to read to 451 messages yesterday than to read the 50 something today!
 
Come on, we bring friendship and happiness to the room
 
well yea but reading through wpf stuff is a lot quicker since i dont have to actually read
i scan most of the lines and catch up
but with a conversation about condos and salaries, I actually have to read to see if there's anything useful in there
 
11:41 AM
Well you learned about some financial problems of mine and about living in Brazil
That is useful haha
@ReedCopsey Yeah it is public :X Take a look when you can gist.github.com/anonymous/588087d08cd3d6e42484
 
11:59 AM
"free hugs"
 
Yeeeey
 
lol
 
hey, Guys
 
Hey there @StepUp
 
howdy stepup
 
12:00 PM
please, see my trouble pls
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Q: An error in handling event. MVVM

StepUpI am using Visual Studio 2010 SP1. I've met a lot of articles where describes code of event handling(see below). For example this and this one. I've added an assembly System.Windows.Interactivity. I am using ICommand interface to handle Commands. However, when I write a property "Command" in th...

or just give me some advice if you want to give advice:)
I really like wpf:). Do you like MVVM pattern?
 
Always
 
I don't :P
 
What you think about if I have to call some controls from viewmdoel then I should write handling in codebehind?
:)
 
Depends if it doesn't have to interact with the model
See if that helps
 
It is violation to call controls from view in viewmodel so we should write code handling to codebehind:)
yeah, I've already seen this topic
 
12:05 PM
If you need to make stuff happens in your View that would not need to retrieve information from your Model, you don't need to use the ViewModel
 
ok
I've seen this topic and I done what they have written. However, I am struggling:)))
stackoverflow.com/questions/…
 
Erm, I think you pasted the link wrongly
 
you are definetile right)
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Q: Properties does not exist : System.Windows.Interactivity?

HydeI have C#/WPF that has a persistent problem loading/resolving the System.Windows.Interactivity I am using Visual Studio 2010 as my editor and already installed Blend 4 + Blend 4 SDK, ...... xmlns:i="clr-namespace:System.Windows.Interactivity;assembly=System.Windows.Interactivity"> why ...

 
Ok, take a look at this, it pretty much explains it about CommandName and CommandParameter
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Q: MVVM Passing EventArgs As Command Parameter

Ahmed GhoneimI'm using Microsoft Expression Blend 4 I have a Browser .., [ XAML ] ConnectionView " Empty Code Behind " <WebBrowser local:AttachedProperties.BrowserSource="{Binding Source}"> <i:Interaction.Triggers> <i:EventTrigger> <i:InvokeCommandAc...

 
thanks, man!
 
12:13 PM
It helped ? ._.
 
it is really cool web site!
yeah, Andre!
thank you very much!
 
Yey, so it solved your doubt/problem ?
 
you are my hero!
yes
 
._. I don't wear a cape, I was i did...
 
^)
 
12:15 PM
I posted an answer to your question for future reference.
 
andre needs some super hero theme music
 
I would love something similar to 80s batman with freakazoid theme..
 
lol
 
Adam West in a red spandex would be really cool
I just noticed I have Pi as badges
3 silver and 14 bronze
 
haha, I like pi
 
12:18 PM
But do you like his life?
ba dum tss
 
lol oh you mean that pi, no that pi is rubbish :)
 
My joke was rubbish, but I really meant 3,1415 Pi
 
yea I know :P
 
Even though I like 1.16 better
[1*sqrt(5)]/2
Do you know about 1.16 ?
 
nope lol
 
12:20 PM
Golden ratio
Fibonacci
This chatroom is made based on golden proportion
 
ahhhh I get ya, although I prefer 1.1 but then im thinking of pie again :P
 
1.1 as Pi ? wut
oh.. pie
 
lol bad joke ;)
 
Silly me haha
 
who the hell is adam west?
 
12:32 PM
First batman if I'm not mistaken
 
lol be thankful i don't have 3k rep yet or I'd cast close vote for duplicate question :p
 
Not quite the same question, it was not an error actually, it was only a doubt he had
 
technically your answer is not an answer.. yet marked as such
which implies question is a duplicate even if worded differently
 
His question was : What is B in A = B + C ?
I answered: Take a look in this question where he askes what is C but explains what is B
 
yes thus your answer isn't answer because its a link to another question
you're supposed to do that in a comment
 
12:37 PM
Think as I gave credit to the other guy
 
PS: I'm not grilling you.. just sharing what i know about SO and what people frown upon
 
I know :) You love me
 
of course.. you're half russian!
(in case this confuses: russians in context of prime world - you don't wanna know what's in forums on topic!)
but yea i do love you for being only half russian.. so there's some hope for you :D
 
Mother Russia ftw
I really wish to learn other languages before I die
German, Russian and any scandinavian language
 
PPS: Stefan isn't in my basement because it isn't big enough to have both you and stefan tied up there!
 
12:42 PM
I know I'm fat, you don't need to throw it at my face.
Haha just kidding
 
i meant my basement is small but yea that too :P
 
0o
 
How You Doin?!
 
I can't read it without making Joey's voice
 
its the law!
its blasphemy to read it any other way
 
12:44 PM
Haha, I know for sure that you made that side smile
 
Not just the voice, looking over his shades bit too!
and it was directed at my third victim member (@ E.L in case he's not sure)
 
I really want to laugh haha I'm taking a course right now haha
Hahahahahaha
Yey, we are going to have a new friend at the basement ! Welcome @E.LDunn
 
new cow.. yes! (If you get this reference, i'd be surprised and very interested in knowing how you got to know!)
 
Hmm, never heard that expression in english..
 
its not an english thing
 
12:49 PM
I googled and got a romance comedy movie as reference ;p
 
its more closely related to basement action ;)
 
I have a dirty mind so I can only think of weird stuff so.. yeah, mind explaning it ? :X
 
can't here :D NSFW
 
Oh, so my dirty mind is right
 
most probably yes!
after my basement hint.. rest should be easy
 
12:51 PM
Yeah, it was really easy haha
 
apparently its a thing - there are farms for the purpose!
powah oph intawebz taught meh mush
 
Some people don't even mind looking at the face of the cow... if you know what I mean
 
:D
 
Just don't put your gimp suit, it kinda freaks me out :p
 
well some people believe in engaging while having a service :P
 
12:53 PM
Oh well, that will make homophobics cringe. Haha I like it
 
that assumes they're reading all of this and following the real conversation ;)
I'd be very interested to know why they read this far though!
 
The gays!!!!!
rabblerabblerabble
 
I read that with the most Texan accent ever...
 
haha
I was born in Texas, so.. ya'know.
 
Did you leave Texas to live in Minnesota ?
 
12:57 PM
Mostly.
 
Was it hard to leave a warm place to go to a freezing cold area ?
 
(was just checking in yesterday's work. See you on the other side of my commute. Laters.)
 
laters
 
D: Already ?
Well, ttyl then
Hey @Maverik if I punch myself and it hurts, am I weak or strong ?
 
You're alive You're out of drugs
 
1:05 PM
Nice answer
I usually get called stupid
Even nicer edit
 
:D
 
is it safe to re-enter the room now :P
 
Depends, are you willing to make company to me and Stefan ?
I can't imagine myself doing drugs :(
I have such a bad memory and I'm always nonsensing
 
lol
 
I think I would just trip balls and explode in awesomeness
 
1:08 PM
hahaha explode in awesomeness!!!
 
It would sound like Randy Savage screaming Oh yeah!!
Snap it into a Slim Jim! Oh yeah!
I miss that guy :(
 
1:39 PM
ohey
 
ohai
 
so i'm trying to recreate the MSWord print preview look/feel and not show a print dialog, rather allow the user to select printer / page settings / etc. in my application then hit print. should this all be done in code behind or should I have a VM? I'm guessing PrintDialog properties don't provide INPC on their properties
 
Everyone warned me that Taco Bell breakfast was terrible. Everyone was right. Why didn't I listen?
 
Mostly because of being fat isn't just a state of matter but an ideology.
 
Your story checks out.
 
1:51 PM
Exactly.
My uncle once said that even if you lose your weight and gets really strong and everything, you will always have that fat thoughts
 
haha
pokes @Maverik
 
if you try hard enough you can put anything in a VM
question is.. how pure you want to be & do you have the time & energy to be that pure?
 
For a second I thought VM had something to do with being fat ._.
 
and now for poking me: What do you do when p/invoke doesn't know about your p/invokes?!
 
oh that's simple
you sneak by and get away with murder
 
1:56 PM
is p/invoke a pintrest spinoff?
For wiccans, maybe?
 
perhaps..
ok more specifically -> how do I create a Union (c++) in C# ?
 
"Check this spirit being invoked"
 
that'd be tricky...
 
I know what a union is, so i can create a naive struct - i just dont know how will I know if its first type in union or the next!
 
cast in a try/catch ?
 
1:57 PM
Specifically I have to translate this:
typedef union _NET_LUID {
  ULONG64 Value;
  struct {
    ULONG64 Reserved  :24;
    ULONG64 NetLuidIndex  :24;
    ULONG64 IfType  :16;
  } Info;
} NET_LUID, *PNET_LUID;
try catch? lol there's no such luxury
 
I see a * and my eyes glaze over.
 
i can only crash out until i get it right - and while I will eventually get it right, that doesn't imply it wont go wrong in the wild
since I'm playing in unmanaged land
so Info.Reserved is reserved because Value will be taking that space
to that an extent its easy - but how do I know if i can read NetluidIndex or not!
now this is a @JohanLarsson question i think
and hey franssu
 
I'm sure you've looked already Mav, social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/…
and what kinda syntax is that?
:24, :16, etc.
managed C++?
 
I honestly don't know - that's MSDN
I'm guessing that has to do with alignments
they're declaring 24 bits of 64 bits as ulong value/reserved
next 24 bits as ulong called index and another 16 bits as ulong of type
its basically a packed structure
 
that's interesting... ulong64 is 64 bits, isn't it?
 
2:06 PM
it is, if you saved it like that
 
ahhh i get it
 
thing is, its defined as ulong - but its range isn't actually ulong
 
they all have to be the same size, and those fields only use X amount of bits
 
the way they've done it lets them move things around three at a time
 
and they all share the 64
 
2:07 PM
yup thats the concept of union :)
.Value will give you full 64bit value
 
right, i knew that, just never seen offsets specified before
 
while .Info breaks that same value in components
 
used to C syntax
 
@NETscape I hadn't seen that but thanks.. now I know how to do it - forgot FieldOffset bit
 
Hey @Billdr did you check your gmail today ?
 
2:08 PM
I did. Boss man isn't in yet.
 
ahh so you don't need to differentiate types right, .Value in NET_LUID is the value of the struct?
 
so I guess I'll start by crashing linqpad
it is
 
Oh, ok. I just got worried. Did you read it ? Is it any good ?
 
you may as well declare it as ulong i think!
 
gotcha. so you should be okay, right?
 
2:09 PM
I did not. Let me finish this unit test and I'll take a look.
 
(assuming you don't care about components or want to do bit field magic)
yea I should be.. lets see.. thanks for pointing in the right direction
 
Mav, you need to screencast so I can watch you. going to mention it everyday til I get to watch... you code. :)
 
lol - it'll be very bad practice!
i is horrible coder on screen casts
at the very least you should get it time compressed
The more I'm diving into this routing stuff of pinvokes - the more I'm getting inclined to "learn" my c++ back again
 
you don't have to talk or anything
twitch.tv it :)
 
2:26 PM
id just be interested in what mav looks like :P
 
He doesn't exists actually, he is a robot
 
that would be even cooler
 
Not only the cooler, but the role computer itself..
Yeah that was a terrible joke..
 
haha
 
anyone got a short answer for this? stackoverflow.com/questions/23247405/…
curious in the approach that would be done, not trying to answer it, just thought it was interesting
 
2:45 PM
Do you like nerd-core hip-hop? How about stoner-alt-music from the 90s? What about pretty awesome alt-folk-contemporary from the modern era? pledgemusic.com/projects/mikedoughty2/updates/34978
 
._. Did you forget to take your medicine again ?
 
negative margin
 
that's what I was thinkin Dunn, but then multiline will get ugly
 
VerticalAlignment Top and fixed height ?
 
nawp
 
2:53 PM
Feck
 
why would multiline get ugly?
 
because it would be flush at the top, but there would still be a gap between the lines that would equal the spacing of the text if there was no - margin
 
refresh the question, there is a nice answer
 
yea I was trying that but within a stack panel and font height was messing up
 
Why don't you use DockPanel ?
And input DockPanel.Dock = Top ;p
 
3:00 PM
first thing that come to mind, I haven't done any wpf for a long time :(
 
Setting LineStackingStrategy to "BlockLineHeight" and setting the LineHeight value to that of the Font size. (While this seems to help a lot, this will affects all lines of text (if its multilined). I was hoping a solution could be found that only affects the space at the top.)
E.L I think our - margin would work
 
:)
 
my first pass I put a TextBlock in a ViewBox in a Label... that was rather ghetto haha.
 
3:15 PM
-ve Margin implies problem with font
 
hi guys
 
i do believe font has builtin Margin and that theory is proven by the fact that margins are scaling with font size
hi
 
it sounds like they want to keep the margin scaling for the textblock, except for the first line of text.
 
they'll need to figure out the scale factor and then accommodate unless there's only a few sizes and they could hardcode
 
3:34 PM
i took a survey yesterday
and it was embarrassing. no one else was even watching me or saw my answers lol
how many people are involved in making the decision for how to implement bug fixes? 1
how many developers are on your team? 1
 
I'm there, and I love it.
 
--ditto--
right now I'm creating my own p/invoke signatures
its very likely that it'll go kaboom any second
if it had more than one developer involved.. this will never get done because it'll take me forever to explain why I'm doing things that I'm doing
Example: I started with a short parameter - i changed it to byte then.. then I changed it to an enum with 3 values.. but I'm pretty sure it won't go kaboom on this at least!
 
do you not talk to any other developers are your companies?
 
Netscape, going to talk to my boss shortly. Do you have anything for me to talk to him about?
 
@NETscape eh? what other developers? :D
 
3:49 PM
I haven't updated my resume. My concern right now is I have 11 months left on my lease, so I guess I'm wondering if there are relocation opportunities
the ones you share version control with?
 
my concern is -> how to get an IntPtr from a structure
I share my DVCS with I, Myself & Irine
the other two aren't too interested in listening to what i have to say
 
gotcha
why are they so bitter?
 
I can't say anything about anything, but if we do decide to extend an offer I think you'll be happy with the outcome.
 
yay +1 to billdrs brazillian population.. almost about to level up!!
so proud of you billy! :D
 
My city has a large Hmung and Ethiopian population. I'd like to add some Brazilians. At least Brazil has decent food.
fyi: never eat Ethiopian "bread."
Silent H's suck.
 
3:57 PM
xD
MIB_IPFORWARD_TABLE2
VpnEngine.NativeMethods+MIB_IPFORWARD_TABLE2
NumEntries 707690576
what does that tell you xD
 
oh i understand now bill.
I'll update documents tonight and get them to you tomorrow
 
4:29 PM
Jubel - Klingande is another song with a sax in it! @E.LDunn I think you or @Julien shared a like for that Changes song before.
 
posted on April 23, 2014 by Eric Lippert

Today on the Coverity Development Testing Blog's continuing series Ask The Bug Guys I answer a user question about whether an impossible comparison should be an error or a warning. Check it out! As always, if you have questions about … Continue reading →

 
4:48 PM
i might be a printing pro after this.
you guys ever use the Export functionality on MSDN?! omg. amazing.
 
Export?
 
look in the top right under the search box
collapse all, export, print options
 
Never noticed, but sounds interesting
if only MSDN had documentation for windows stuff! (no i'm not being sarcastic.. it actually doesn't have structures it mentions!)
 
5:04 PM
I was getting a candy bar from a vending machine. It's shameful enough when no one is around, but as I make my selection poof beautiful woman walks around the corner.
 
If I were single I'd probably slit my wrists right now.
 
nah, that sounds like an overreaction
you could lie and say you bought it for a sick child?
That would sound very american I think.
 
lieing about candy and using a child to save yourself?
 
I'm not sure what that means.
 
5:06 PM
that's how i read it ;)
 
@Maverik better than the alternative?
lying is not very nice though
 
yeah I know what you mean Mav. Its hard to get around for that kind of still
 
nor buyng the candy in the first place, what a mess
 
hahahaha i love you johan
 
Yeah. Everything about my life is really the worst.
 
5:09 PM
you should have sprinted back to your desk
and said if i'm gonna eat it, i'm gonna work for it!
Born Again - Ahzee
 
hey guys
whats happening?
 
Mostly offtopic talk
 
awsum!
what does wpf mean anyway?
 
Windows Presentation Foundation
 
This is the first time im hearing that. where u frm silva?
 
5:14 PM
I'm from Brazil :) and you ?
 
I suddenly want to go to Sao Paulo and shout "Oi, Silva!" just to see how many heads turn.
 
About 80% of Brazil population actually
 
Silva is Portuguese for bunny, apparently.
 
Im frm india :)
 
Haha no, it is a portuguese name ( from Portugal ). And we were colonized by them so a lot of our ancestors received its name from them
 
5:19 PM
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Q: changing zindex of elements in itemscontrol windows phone

JTIMThis is a question with many different answers, but have not found one working for Windows Phone. So here goes: I have an Items Control that displays UserControls. I bind an ObservableCollection to this ItemsControl like this: <Canvas Name="CanvasGrid" Grid.Column="1" Background="Transparent" C...

 
Well welcome to the room vishnurajv
seems like you're into web development so it makes sense that you haven't heard of WPF which happens to be a desktop development framework
and for the rest of you -> Kabooms achieved so far -- 5!
 
If you used Windows Forms, you'd be amazed what WPF can do for you
 
back to P/Invoke
 
5:40 PM
@Maverik no idea
 
5:57 PM
I'm writing ugly dumb overarchitected code now
hopefully refactoring can save it later
 
Important Notice – Same-sex spouses of U.S. citizens and Lawful Permanent Residents (LPRs), along with their minor children, are now eligible for the same immigration benefits as opposite-sex spouses.
'Merica ya'all.
 
erm which state said that?
that ain't Merica.. that's one state i think
 
Imigration law is considered for the whole country
 
nah this is something i've noticed in USA
there's no U in States when its about same-sex legislation
 
Well that is because there are different type of laws
 
6:10 PM
no its retarded
 
It doesn't make much sense to prohibit imigration from another country to USA since you can only achieve a state
 
there should be only one law.. end discrimination.. period!
 
Yeah, I'd still be able to murder people for fun though..
 
imagine the day when I won't discriminate against you for being half russian!! :P
 
I don't really mind being discriminated for being half-russian or fat or ideologically socialist...
But if the discrimination becomes hatred, theeeen I'll get insanely mad
 
6:12 PM
oh so many opportunities! and here i was wondering what would I do once we get over the russian bit! :D
hates andre
releases him from his farm
 
I'm a free elf :D
Just kidding, I can't bare light
 
so, I'm planning on doing a ViewModel approach for printing... msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/…
should I make [Flags]enums for all the different capabilities?
 
and I'm planning on stopping my program from crashing beause of Invalid Memory Reads that I'm doing nonstop :P
 
You're doing C++ stuff aren't ya ?
 
[Insert Sexy Female Voice Here] Caution.. ACCESS VIOLATION deteced.. Caution (goes on loop with hull breach music being played in background
no.. that'd be no fun.. i'm crashing the GC :)
 
6:15 PM
@NETscape Is there a reason you're working so hard to duplicate teh built in functionality instead of just using the dialog?
 
but after entire days crashes, i have made progress at least - i now have 1 entry showing up!
 
@AndréSilva BTW - Still some issues in your "revised" version :)
 
because it's ugly, and to change anything you need to know how to navigate the printer preferences
 
@NETscape Yes, except that it's a losing battle trying to duplicate, because a huge amount of the functionality is printer driver provided, not general purpose
so you'll lose functionality doing it yourself
 
@ReedCopsey Well, the issue that I have is that it isn't working haha, but I did not have time to see it today, but I'm going to see it in a couple of hours ( because I'm in a course right now )
 
6:18 PM
@AndréSilva No - with what you sent me :)
 
right, but i only need to add a few basics
 
unless you wanted to lead with your name 9 times, for example...
(which I wouldn't normally recommend)
 
orientation, page size, copy count
 
@ReedCopsey Oh yeah, I'm discussing with Bill, I'll change a lot of stuff still so ignore the last 2 emails haha
I'm following some brazilian patterns I learned in High School so just erase that memory
 
some things cannot be unseen :p
 
6:29 PM
Green check mark, you're so beautiful.
 
if you have something like Text="{Binding Dog.Name}" and you call Notify("Dog"); does Name get updated?
 
6:57 PM
@NETscape it's supposed to, but my experience shows that it's not always 100% reliable
 
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