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12:00 AM
alright so am I an imposter or not ? @FoggyFinder
 
I see you a second time for a chat. Ask me about it a week later ;)
 
Alright . is that supposed to give me motivation . I could and I will be a programmer who are you to tell me other wise bro
 
why do you want to become a programmer?
if it too personal ... just give me know
 
Because I like it . I may not have done it my whole life to have the luxory to say I love programming but its what I want to do its my dream job I wouldn't want to do anything else
Its just I think I'm at a junior level level right now and need guidance like training I've made some apos before so idk how I'm an imposter :\
 
12:15 AM
Random question. I made a window that has a section that's semitransparent (so you can see what's behind that window). How can I capture that window into a bitmap so that it includes what is behind the window?
 
@june1992 is this a problem? All were juniors
@BrandenBoucher sorry, I'm too sleepy to look for an answer right now
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12:33 AM
All were juniors what ? @FoggyFinder
 
1:13 AM
You said "is this a problem ? All were juniors " @FoggyFinder
 
 
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8:15 AM
morning
 
morning
 
morning
ohh how sweet that image looks :)
 
8:34 AM
this image much better
 
hey
 
do you listen to Kanye West? :)
it doesn't really match your swing style but...
 
I listen to a lot of things
but Kanye West.. I may have heard him
why ?
 
8:57 AM
just interested of what spread you have
Oh! LUNCH!!! bbiaw
 
9:48 AM
Kanye West is the musician you respect the less ? :)
 
nono
 
is it the most opposite style of music you can think of (from swing) ?
 
no
 
or do you simply like his music
 
I do
 
9:50 AM
ok :)
do you listen to metal ?
 
I have a hard time with metal
especially trash
 
megadeth, slayer, sepultura ?
 
I had a short megadeth period. but they can't really be compared to slayer or sepeltura right?
 
I don't know much but it's the ones I listen to
 
I had the Countdown to extinction record
(when it was new)
Guns n' roses, Iron Maiden and Black album Metallica
hehe those were the times :)
 
9:55 AM
didn't take proper time to listen to GNR or maiden
but will do :)
 
you missed out :) Still listen some to gnr, but not much to maiden
and then of course (as everyone else in that age) i turned to Nirvana
 
yep
Alice in Chains
 
I just (two years ago) discovered them.
 
same as me :p
 
the song would was made as a cover in tv series Californication.
It turns out I tend to be very loyal to artists, having them as favorites for a long time
after Nirvana I guess it was Depeche Mode, also a little Portishead. then Radiohead. And of course Swedish Kent which I still listen to quite a lot
Wish and Disintegration by the cure is also awesom
 
10:11 AM
I'll check them
 
Haven't you head them??
 
maybe
 
Didn't you see Mr Robot?
 
3 or 4 episodes
 
oh no TV right?
Anyway, they are good if you are in a downer mood...
what's your history?
 
10:15 AM
oh music ?
 
yes
 
didn't use to listen much
 
what did you do then?
 
french rap
 
don't know any :)
 
10:18 AM
damn
but.. if you don't get the lyrics..
I guess the instrumental is nice
 
hehe
 
the clip is nice too :)
both monsters of French rap
NTM from Paris
IAM from Marseille
 
very hard to relate to rap on a language you don't understand
 
yep
 
I have really never liked rap.. and then I listened some to kanye. but still, I'm not a huge fan of it.
 
10:32 AM
@Markus I saw :)
 
It's almost a duty as a developer :)
 
I liked the second season almost as much as the first, but the ending was not a success.
I was sick watching it so maybe I should rewatch it
 
Do you mean after the captions?
 
nae I mean more of the whole episode. but as I said I was a bit tired. Maybe I missed a lot.
 
10:40 AM
please be careful not to spoil :)
 
oh ok :)
 
I liked it even more than the first season
I wanted to write the answer :D
 
gist :)
 
@Markus lol I expected good in the sense that it would cheer me up. I should have known, it's the Cure..
 
I don't really think it will work to cheer you up :)
But that's not good music.. that's false music
 
10:49 AM
if I didn't know I'll have a cheeseburger in 10 minutes, I would be crying now
 
so food cheers you up?
 
hell yes
 
that's a dangerous thing (if you like to stay(?) fit)
I feel the same though.. the smell of pizza.... mmmmm
 
I'm 62 :p
kg
 
hehe
ok no worries then
that's why you fitted the dress so well I guess
 
10:52 AM
:)
 
many christian people say that the body that is so amazing can't in no way have come up by chance (natural selection). I'd say that the body sucks! Why does it crave sugar even if it really doesn't need it (at least not that much)?
 
my body don't crave for sugar :p
 
a good system would just use what it needed and send the rest throug, not the body... it just takes it all, and then continues asking for more...
what do you rather eat, candy or peas?
 
peas
100%
 
well you might be the next evolution then
 
10:57 AM
candies have been sitting in my kitchen for years, litterally
 
what's wrong with you man???
and I mean wrong in a good way
 
:)
 
for example why is the teeth made of something that can get holes? why not titanium or similar??? stupid!
 
:D burger time !
 
burger... how come you don't eat like peapie and canned beans?
 
11:33 AM
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Q: Can I use DeepZoomTools.dll in my project and Nuget package?

teo van kotI'm trying to implement OpenSeadragon viewer with Deep Zoom Image (.dzi formart) support. To make thing work correct I should create tiles and proper xml on server side. Microsoft has Deep Zoom Composer that contains DeepZoomTools.dll. It provides functions that I need. I added this dll to my p...

 
11:55 AM
Good morning
 
morning
 
12:15 PM
morning Alex
I didn't know about peapie until today :)
will try for sure
 
Happy Friday!
 
friday afternoon :)
 
12:35 PM
2.5h...
 
same ahah
 
Hi guys
 
How do you call a user defined function in EF? The instructions here indicate it's a lot of manual work
Hi Maverik
 
I just wrote an unusual answer - could you guys please check it out and let me know if I've done an acceptable job? stackoverflow.com/questions/39744725/…
(the answer is to the feed question above)
 
Good answer. +1
 
12:46 PM
you actually read it that quick?!
 
Yep
 
dang you're quick - would have taken me a lot longer - i tend to read licensing bits pretty slowly to make sure it is sinking in
thanks for checking
 
You covered even how to post to MSDN forums
with link, no less
 
well its a 500 rep bounty.. it deserved my effort
thats more rep than i gain in an entire year xD
 
'morning
 
12:48 PM
Morning
 
waves from cubicle
 
The programming gods are not smiling on me today. I'm back in VC++ atm.
 
your upvotes also ensure that in case the person doesn't accept the answer - the bounty rep that he has already lost at least will be awarded to some answer (possibly that happens to be mine cos I doubt people can add more to the answer)
so muchos gracias :)
 
That's a lot of rep points he's rewarding
 
yup
 
12:49 PM
Sure, you're welcome, Maverik
 
i was surprised - i originally thought it was 50
 
Never seen that many points
 
and then i posted my original comment based answer with screenshot and as I was typing it, i realised its not 50 - its 500
must find license - where do we normally see license? setups of course!
i can't remember an MS product i didn't sign my soul over to
 
Have a plus one. Now, if nobody else answers and the OP doesn't manually award bounty, you'll at LEAST get half.
 
thank you :)
yea thats what i was just saying, if the answer seems appropriate +1 will at least get me some rep that he has already sacrificed
 
12:51 PM
Oh, and it was a good answer :P
 
he's going to feel pretty silly when he will read that I posted license bits from the setup he had already pressed "I Agree" on
500 rep for blindly pressing I Agree
 
What would you say on his #2 question, as to licensing on GitHub?
 
oh dang i think i missed it
 
On #3, from what it says in the EULA, it can't be decompiled
 
12:53 PM
thanks for pointing out - i'll address the questions
 
Well, on #3, it's a little fuzzy. "...modify so that..." under 2.a.iii
From what I'm seeing, there's no easy way to call a UDF from EF
 
...2...
 
Good morning y'all :)
 
'morning André
 
1:09 PM
Good modifications to answer, Maverik. Now it covers all that OP asked and then some :)
Just spent an hour trying to change one of my passwords. It locked me out twice. Had to call helpdesk. And then go through one of those awful "What was the hour, minute, second you were born in atomic time format?"...
<vent level="Angry">Then the whole system gets compromised. Meanwhile, they hassle us for "strong" passwords and keep changing it every few weeks. Why not change it every hour? That'll be really secure!</vent>
 
ok I updated the question with the 3 answers. If you guys could let me know that you agree or disagree with my assessment, that'd be awesome. To save you scrolling: stackoverflow.com/questions/39744725/…
 
Quite thorough. From what I can tell, it's all accurate
 
@Alex i've linked Clause 4 which expressly prohibits it and posted screenshot of that section too - i had missed his questions which thanks to you guys I fixed now
thank you very much
 
Yeah, reading it again, thought I missed that. Nope, was in a different part :)
 
never done a license question before
 
1:16 PM
You're welcome
 
my CTO deals with all licensing so I'm happily oblivious to this stuff normally
 
If s/he doesn't give you the 500 points, we'll protest :)
 
lol nah i can't give an answer authoritatively which is what he really wants.. I wouldn't feel bad if he doesn't accept it as answer
I've only given him the best of my understanding
 
While venting (see above), looked up this interesting site... gives you the true length of each day. Not really useful for anything, but interesting
 
do you guys always write a header in all your code?
like a copyright etc etc
 
1:26 PM
nope
 
Not here
 
sorry i was on SO, gonna catch up on transcript
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@franssu clever ;) skipping over :D
 
:)
by the way NTM means "F*** You Mom"
nice name for a rap band
 
lol its fine - i was just saying NTM doesn't give away that its a youtube link & it doesn't onebox - nicely done :)
 
yep I got that :)
 
1:39 PM
doesn't actually disrupt the flow of transcript when you're going through it in bulk to catch up
Alex - use a password manager
Markus: i wanted to say this yesterday but i'll say it now - the new image is MUCH better :) good job
 
problem is I can never remember if its [ ] around link then ( ) around description or description then link or () then []...
 
Markus: Licensing header - I've only considered i on one project thats opensource because it's required by license itself - i don't bother otherwise
[]()
 
@franssu Described my challenge perfectly :)
I keep doing it backwards!
 
@june1992 imposter syndrome is something we all experience at one point in life. no one is picking on you.
 
easy -> use the normal keys before you use the shfit keys
 
1:41 PM
and did I miss the pic of @franssu in a dress?
 
I feel like an impostor every day
 
i haven't seen it either
 
"Am I in over my head?"
"OK. I know nothing."
 
don't think you're ready for this
 
Do it, do it!
 
1:43 PM
Maverik, it's not so much the password itself, but the idiocy of how they implement this stuff.... penny wise, pound foolish
 
@june1992 As the oracle said in matrix: nobody can tell you if you're the one - you just know it from bone to bone. Don't listen to people who aren't giving you constructive criticism and listen to your inner voice (or wait until it starts speaking)
Yea i know - we have it too
have to have 9+ character complexity 3 password - and cannot have any of the last 6 passwords
what do people do? append 1/2/3/4/5/6 at the end
 
@june1992 ^ that. And as you struggle and achieve, you build your confidence. You realize you can solve difficult challenges. And the contrarians become irrelevant
 
Fun fact: when trying to decide on a language name for their new Pascal-derived language, oracle was the database in the enterprise. "Where do you go to talk to the oracle?" was asked ... anyone know the answer?
 
of course that hasn't made us change the policy
i'm assuming this has nothing to do with the Holy book of The Matrix
 
Only in the sense that they both involve the term oracle :)
 
1:46 PM
Fable game, collect 4 runes
then you can go to Oracle
 
Delphi.
.. and that became the new language name.
 
Ahhh
Maverik, I've tried different ways with password changes. Sometimes I start and end a word with the same numbers and just change the word
Or just move parts of my pw around for each iteration
 
Oh - I was listening to an absolutely awesome NPR article on the invention of the first plastic -- Bakelite (prounc'd bake-a-lite)...
I highly suggest reading or listening to it.
It's 4:17, and well worth the time.
 
I've given up Alex - i now just let Dashlane deal with it
for example my password at this moment: }#b;|Gq2(Y#m%
 
doubt it
 
1:55 PM
Good grief!
Yeah, it's about what battles we choose to fight. Not worth it
 
all my password are like that
didn't open my linux laptop for a year
can't open it anymore
ahah
 
well i never used a password manager until i finally found dashlane - now i rely on it because i dont have to put password into it
it works off my fingerprint
 
what if your finger fall off
 
only thing missing now is if its windows counterpart could use the mobile app for authentication - then it'd be perfect
they'll need to chop 4 of my fingers in that case
 
Then you'd use retina scan, like in Wrath of Khan
 
1:59 PM
well i dont have ratina scan but voiceid/facialid are operational for my bank
i'm so sick of lloyds
they locked me out of my account then two days after I got to branch.. sorted the entire mess out (so total 5 days later), they sent me email "oh you seem to have locked your account - it can be frustrating.. here's a helpful email"
of course there's zero help in there - it basically sends me back to branch
unfortunately switching bank requires 7 working days at least and likely 11 working days with red tape involved and I'm leaving for 2 weeks holidays in 6 calendar days so I'll get rid of these guys when i get back
^ also so you know why i'll disappear for 2 weeks :)
 
are you traveling ?
 
who is ready for julien's programming challenge of the day?
 
what article ?
:)
ah
imposter syndrome
yep, that's me
 
Julien, you beat me to it! Scrolled up in transcript
 
it was there ->
 
2:09 PM
Maybe impostor syndrome is normal, considering how many folks have it
 
I want to maintain a hierarchical tree view of the folders for x given file paths. if a file is passed in, its folder and all parent folders should be represented by a folder view model
 
Or maybe it's how badly we're treated by others that makes us question our own abilities
 
can it be done better? probably. i suck.
 
You don't suck, Julien. I've learned tons from you and others here
:)
 
end goal: <TreeView ItemsSource="{Binding Folders}" />
 
2:14 PM
Is this the recommended way to do EF transactions?
 
my eyes burn @Julien :)
 
i told you
i am embarassed posting it. lol
 
we all suck
 
make it better please :)
 
it's difficult to figure out what the code is doing
 
2:23 PM
you pass in a file path to UpdateFolders
it builds a stack of all the directories in that files path
 
because it describes how but not what
 
then tries to find a folder vm for each directory
if it can't find one, it creates one
the goal is to end up with an explorer-like folder listing
c:\
    c:\temp
    c:\zzzz
         c:\zzz\temp
 
I don't see how in this code there would be more than 1 child per folder
 
well it does work lol
 
ok
where do you get the children :)
 
2:29 PM
errr it doesn't it gets parents
 
only 1 parent per child
 
lol it works
 
you obtain a tree ?
 
parentDirectoryVm.Folders.Add(new FolderVm(iteratedDirectory.FullName));
yes
that is where a folder can have multiple folders
remember this doesn't show files, only folders
 
you call it many times ?
yep
 
2:32 PM
UpdateFolders is called once per file
 
ok
well, if it works !
 
expose my shame to the world?
never
 
why be ashamed
 
i just have a feeling that the code is terrible
 
it works so..
not so terrible
the thing is it mutates state a lot
makes it hard to reason about
it's also too iterative IMO
 
2:39 PM
i don't know what you mean by either of those things
it has to be recursive, if that's what you mean
 
I'll try to make my points this week end
or just post it on code reviews
 
Yey who is anxious to do a rework of a rework? :D
 
@Alex that looks like a pretty nice post and yea I'd follow his approach
 
Well, in EF 6, there's no db.SaveChanges() that takes a bool
So I can't use db.SaveChanges(false);
So going with this approach instead: dzone.com/articles/…
 
2:54 PM
ohhh that rings a bell
yea i've used that but only once i think ( i don't normally have a lot of db activity in my apps )
yea that sounds like the right way to go
 
Need to add an entity to db, then use its IDENTITY value in another insert
 
why not do it in one go?
if EF knows about PK -FK relation - it can do that on its own
 
Haven't tried that. Doing it the hard way, as usual :)
Not sure how to do it that way
 
assign the child entity to parent entity
then when you submit context (assuming both entities are on same context), it should do it properly
 
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