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12:02 PM
hi canadian guy @rlemon
little pootis said that you are that guy with fancy head and beard
Is that correct .
 
@rlemon Did you actually just call that a subreddit?
 
@KarelG yes
@KendallFrey yes
7am
what do you expect of me
 
WAKIN UP IN THE... sorry
 
@rlemon a disciplined human being ? are we asking too much :P
 
you, maybe.
the other two had reasonable requests
 
12:10 PM
anybody worked with Proxy objects?
 
@KendallFrey lol you sonofabitch... I started singing Friday because you put it in my head. Holly screams "it's not FRIDAY!! Stop!" :P
 
lmfao
 
@rlemon somehow I'm still not certain. Are you not impersonating another one with the same characteristics?
just for the joke?
 
@rlemon I've never met her but already I love fucking with her
 
12:12 PM
@KendallFrey the 'with' is so important
 
uh huh
 
@jAndy Yeah?
 
@KarelG Another thing about rlemon is that he cba to do something like that
 
@MadaraUchiha I just wanted to hear some general opinions.. performance? Readability in code, too much black magic, etc.
 
@jAndy Depends on what you want to do.
 
12:14 PM
@jAndy it can be amazing when used well.
 
Here's an example for a relatively naive implementation of a templating engine using Proxies
 
hey guys
What do you recommend for node.js linting?
 
@MadaraUchiha do you really need proxies there?
 
@FlorianMargaine Got a better way to get that API?
 
I guess.. just provide a HTML string and run document.implementation.createDocument()
but .. I like the example
Anyway Florian is right, there are rarely situations where a Proxy is essential
 
12:22 PM
@jAndy That's not as nice an API though, and not nearly as composable
Of course
 
@Jason I like eslint, though be prepared to spend some time setting up rules unless you go with a default set like airbnb or whatever else is out there
 
In nearly all cases, using a getter/setter is enough for the kind of "niceness" I need
A Proxy is an extra on top of that
I don't get to use it very often, and not having a polyfill doesn't really help its case.
 
sometimes I feel people come in this room to just talk but not to listen !
 
hahahahaha
 
Well, it's a chat room, not a listen room. Duh!
 
12:24 PM
@Mathematics It's a chat room, people chat.
 
now I have to tell people what "chat" means...
 
lol
 
2
Q: Why does git complain that no GPG agent is running?

Oliver SalzburgI have the gpg-agent.exe running, but when I try to git commit, it complains that the GPG agent can not be found: $ gpg-agent --daemon gpg-agent[17440]: a gpg-agent is already running - not starting a new one $ git commit -m "foo" You need a passphrase to unlock the secret key for user: "Olive...

In case anyone cares!
Very frustrating
 
SQL Server 2012 is hiring... if anyone is interested :|
"Jobs in SQL Server 2012"
 
@Maurize be her santa
 
12:28 PM
Or get her pregnant!
 
@HatterisMad I started playing with Karthus
he really ends suffering
 
user3119231
@FlyingGambit I'm da daddy santa
 
user3119231
I will buy a watch.
 
@Maurize or iphone
 
Why would he do that to his girlfriend?
 
12:37 PM
why not ?
 
that's abuse
 
Lol, troll detected
 
@Jason ESLint, have a look at github.com/sindresorhus/xo or github.com/feross/standard to launch off
 
@Mathematics you misunderstood that i think
 
12:42 PM
are we allowed to clone git repos ? won't it be privacy exploit ?
@KarelG for a second... maybe yes
 
you can schedule a query to run on given time
 
@KarelG you are right
 
that's the "job scheduling "
like a database with ratings to convert between currencies
 
I would hope that he already got that by clicking on the link to the question O_o
 
you can write a SQL query to update it on frequent base
 
12:43 PM
@OliverSalzburg I was just trying to be funny... but it was a big FAIL
 
or for cleaning up db
 
@KarelG Is on an explaining frenzy
 
D:
 
yes I'm rlemon
 
@rlemon Prove it
 
12:55 PM
 
Good enough
 
guys
What is better? Nodejs or PHP7?
can't decide
 
in what do you have more experience
 
php
and javascript
 
1:04 PM
well, nodejs has a high learning curve I think. You can make good stuff but you really need to know what you are doing
 
@CharlesCraft50 neither, but considering the audience, NodeJS
 
objectively there is no "better", but nodejs is still better.
 
@misha130 it's no more difficult than PHP
 
yea, not difficult
 
NodeJS is also JS :D
 
1:06 PM
@misha130 Depends what for
 
Why would someone come into a JS room and ask if people consider JS or PHP to be "better"?
 
@CharlesCraft50 it depends entirely on the project your building. PHP has some disadvantages but also has an advantage of being very easy to deploy. It also is much easier to find PHP devs than nodejs devs.

It's also opinionated. Do you like dynamic languages? What language doe you feel more comfortable with?
 
Do you need to prototype something really quickly and regret it 5 years down the road? Go for PHP
 
@MadaraUchiha for jokes sake
 
1:07 PM
@MadaraUchiha tooling is in place to do that now with nodejs. everything scaffolds.
you won't like it, but you can do it 😛
 
but why facebook didn't use nodejs?, they use HHVM
 
Facebook wrote HHVM because PHP was too slow
 
@CharlesCraft50 Because they had a huge technical debt with PHP
And it was cheaper for them to write a whole new engine than switching stack.
 
they have unique problems and are in a unique position to create solutions. I wouldn't take what companies like Google of FB do on their servers as a sign of what normal stacks should be going at. they also use a lot of other technologies for very specific reasons in their 'ecosystem'
 
^
@CharlesCraft50 Facebook also wrote React because they had a very specific problem
 
1:10 PM
there is a big difference between deciding on things when you see 100 hits a day vs 100 billion hits a day
 
I also wrote libs because I had specific problem, some problems turned out to be generic enough to resuse the code I wrote to solve it.
 
What if facebook was created in Nodejs?
 
So some libs never make it out of a project, some get reused...
 
@CharlesCraft50 shareholders
 
@CharlesCraft50 Nothing too special.
Facebook had a problem and they solved it
They could have solved it in a number of ways, they weighed them and chose the one that fit them the most
 
1:36 PM
@CharlesCraft50 slower response times ultimately translates into requiring more servers to deal with the sheer volume of requests
Which assuming there would be a slower response time, it likely would not be significant
They're pretty anal about that kind of thing
 
1:55 PM
@OliverSalzburg To make full use of popcorn?
 
hello all ,
can anyone help me with ajax call, it says access denied in Internet Explorer and working in other browsers.
 
This is amazing mozart.github.io
 
Is there anyone who can help me ??
 
@Shubham well it's probably a local issue
 
@Shubham you are calling the wrong url. Chrome and FF simply warns you (check the console)
IE is more strict on that
thus throwing that
 
2:02 PM
Have you tried testing the very same thing on another computer?
 
probably either internet -> intranet or http -> https traffic
or https -> http
just google that
 
o hai @Luggage o/
get a coffee and peruse my changes? (small) -- I already feel like I'm making a mess of this
 
sure, but It'll be a bit. Gonna drive to work.
 
yea no worries.
maybe I am doing things correctly? just feels messy
 
@rlemon if it feels messy, you know you're doing it right
 
2:17 PM
sometimes I just wanna quit my job.
is it abnormal?
and go away i dunno where. is it abnormal?
 
Sometimes you just gotta suck it up.
 
everyday sucking it up. not sometimes
 
Maybe you should find a new job
 
> I need we need to come up with alternate lyrics to this entitled "Chaining Thens"
a coworker working with promises.
 
2:21 PM
@FlorianMargaine Tell him that he's getting paid to work and not to fuck around on Youtube! Then quickly get back to chat and tell us about it in all detail!
 
@FlorianMargaine on it
 
@SagnikChakraborti While even a good job can get tiring, that shouldn't be every day.
@OliverSalzburg This is a JS chat room. It's work-related.
 
@Luggage but, like someone said once, the work that doesn't feel like work is "The Work".
 
@Luggage did you see my various pings?
 
@Luggage I'm currently researching the possibility of using JSON in our app. Is that related enough?
 
2:25 PM
I give up. it's too early to make parody songs
 
@FlorianMargaine pong
 
@Luggage one was about an interesting TIL
 
Yes, I skimmed the article.
 
implementation was fairly straightforward
 
user2620028
@rlemon do you have an optimal time of the day that you have had success making parody songs?
 
2:27 PM
It doesn't help me get women, so not interested right now.
j/k.. this is the locking thing?
 
user2620028
@FlorianMargaine the lyrics are going to have to change but the video gets to stay the same right?
 
@HatterisMad 1-2:30
 
why should I use webGL
 
2:30 PM
you shouldn't
next question
 
why not ?
 
why should you?
 
because I need this
 
@FlorianMargaine "according to kangax, the new syntax is the way to go, and for the first time in history, we're gonna starting chaining thens"
 
2:31 PM
it needs work
 
@Mathematics then why are you asking if you should if you already know the answer?
 
@FlorianMargaine because I am not confident
 
looks like something that could be achieved with Canvas 2D or even just SVG
no need to get into webGL for it
 
I am having trouble with SVG d3,

What I really want is a tree chart for hundreds to thousands of products, categorized and nested..
and use wants to see different information about products e.g. sales, ingrediants etc.. in this chart based on a drop down list
for what I experimented SVG is too basic for it
 
no it isn't
 
@FlorianMargaine what am I looking at?
 
@rlemon I am on initial stage and I am having problems with text rendering - jsfiddle.net/qko5dq64/5
@AwalGarg SVG
 
@Mathematics okay, so keep at it
it isn't like d3 isn't capable
 
@rlemon so d3 can be used for something like this -- izendademo.blob.core.windows.net/izenda-demo/wp-content/uploads/…
 
sure
 
2:38 PM
man, i'm facing a big design problem
 
sorry for reposting !
 
coworker uses a re-usable method to collect data to populate a <select> box
 
if you poke around on that link I just posted you'll see
 
the table name can be assigned dynamically
that's a huge spot for SQLi
 
@rlemon I have looked at hundreds of example and looking for last 4 days at least :|
 
2:39 PM
bl.ocks.org/mbostock/4339083 well this was one of the top results, and is linked on the page I shared
 
because PreparedStatement doesn't allow changing params of table ( like select id, name from ? ORDER BY name). Any suggestion?
 
@rlemon did u looked at the fiddle I shared ? I already developed something
 
why would I care about that code? you asked why you should use WebGL, then said SVG isn't capable of doing what the gif you shared was. Then asked if d3 can be used for something like that.
so I'm showing you that yes, it is capable, and there is already a demo which is almost exactly what you shared
you didn't ask "hey, I'm trying to make this: <gif> and here is my attempt, this <specific issue> is a problem"
 
@rlemon sorry for not able to put it down right
 
hmm found a fugly solution
SELECT TABLE_NAME
FROM information_schema.tables
WHERE table_schema = ? AND table_name = ?;
better than nothing
 
2:49 PM
@FlorianMargaine 4 Zero 4.
 
@KarelG what does that solve?
 
@Luggage uh, I changed it to "public" 15 mins ago
@AwalGarg a demo of github.com/Canop/hu.js
 
@FlorianMargaine neat
 
@rlemon still no .gitignore
 
FINE
 
2:53 PM
You have any parts, in particular, you want me to shit on?
e.g. slide.jsx ?
 
Oo, burn
 
damn, still need a config.json for the server.
 
@Neil preventing security problems when dynamically assigning table name (yeah i know... * points to co-worker *)
then using the result of that query as table name
 
@KarelG ah, well that would work yeah
Makes you db-dependent though
Not sure what else you could do though
 
2:58 PM
@Luggage not sure how that'll work for the auth unless they have dummy versions?
 
well now I am not sure where its all GOING !!
 
If this is up-to-date, i'm going to commit some changes so I can start it up
 

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