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3:00 PM
I tip well regularly as long as the service doesn't suck, but i hate the tipping thing altogether
 
If thye don't make min wage in wages + tips they business has to pay the difference
how do people still not know this?
 
user2620028
i am aware of this
 
(In the United States at least)
 
user2620028
but the culture that we have to tip in the first place
 
This room is more divided about ad blockers than east in west berlin in 1961
 
3:00 PM
@Loktar in Canada they get a lower minimum wage :/ TIPs are expected (not from the waitress, from the government)
 
user2620028
went to thailand, didnt tip once and they didnt expect me to
 
but west berlin is the ad block lovers
 
user2620028
was happy about it
 
@rlemon they get paid lower min wage here too
 
user2620028
never got shitty service in thailand either :/
 
3:01 PM
@HatterisMad that's because when you take a girl home in thailand you're the one who gets a tip
Get it?
 
due to tips, however if tips + their wages don't equal standard min wage the business has to make it up
 
Because she has a penis
 
user2620028
I GET IT
 
@Loktar ahh, not here.
 
3:01 PM
DO YOU
 
user2620028
YES
 
user2620028
maybe?
 
user2620028
is it a katoey joke
 
Just the tip?
 
if wage + tips still don't equal minimum wage... damn..
 
3:01 PM
I'm pretty knowledgeable on it here, as my mother is a professional bartender / waitress.
 
user2620028
don't google that term btw
 
so forgive me if I think people who don't tip are assholes.
 
I was just about to thanks for teh ehads up lol
 
user2620028
sterling
 
3:02 PM
archer
 
When I go to my favorite bar, I tip 50% on anything over.. $15
 
user2620028
this is why you bemoan spoilers
 
Anything under, 100%
 
^ if that is to be believed @rlemon your waitresses don't make out bad
 
3:02 PM
Because I love them, and they give me so many free drinks
 
user2620028
because you know what you are going to get when you open the page, but you do it anyways
 
@Loktar nope, minimum here is quite reasonable.
plus we do often tip out well. my mom makes a good living
 
@SterlingArcher my team has started doing that at our usual bar and now we get doubles when we order shots
 
Tip well, get treated well
It helps that I'm friends with all 3 bartenders so that helps
 
@Loktar the "after" column I'm confused about. almost no where pays servers more than minimum wage. almost no where.
 
3:04 PM
They haven't seen me in a while though since I stopped drinking a lot :(
 
user2620028
@Sterling were you friends with them before you started drinking at that bar.....
 
I was not
 
yeah idk either @rlemon regardless they have to be a piece of shit for me not to tip
 
user2620028
this might be a good reflect life decisions moment
 
I can't remember the last time I didn't tip something
 
3:04 PM
I did, 2 months ago :)
 
@Loktar I only do that when the food is late and undercooked and the wrong thing.
 
No booze on weekdays (which has actually led to less weekend drinking..) has helped me lose weight, and save a shit ton of money
 
or if the server is rude at all
 
I dont for food issues usually
Because I assume that was the cooks fault
 
bar tips are $1 per drink
 
3:05 PM
unless it's entirely wrong
 
Why do you think I bought a $1250 watch LOL
 
but yeah if they are rude at all, for sure no tip
 
@Loktar but the cooks get tips from the server
 
@Loktar knowing that the government expects the tips, and knowing that if the establishment had to pay them more wages my food would cost more, I'm okay with tipping a minimum amount to make sure they make minimum wage. HOWEVER, when you get tipped 8% that is almost more insulting than no tip
 
@ssube - yeah was gonna say, to me it's more about rudeness
 
3:05 PM
That was my booze money
 
so if you don't tip the server, they bitch at the cook
and don't tip out the cook
 
sometimes the server can't help what comes out of the kitchen, not really a hard and fast rule there
 
@SterlingArcher you've been indoctrinated to value consumerism
 
I understood 5 words in that sentence, and one of them was my name
2
 
@Shane but they are the contact for the cook. everyone shares in the responsibility
 
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3:06 PM
I very rarely have an issue with the food, it is usually just an incompetent waitress
 
also the cooks tipouts are often shitty
 
yeah but if they make it right, meh
 
@HatterisMad where are you eating that you cannot get good service?
 
yeah, I worked in a bar a few years ago where the cook was incredibly shitty for a couple of weeks and the servers paid for it
 
I mean if they are apologetic and fix it, then it doesnt hurt their tip from me
 
3:07 PM
maybe change restaurants
 
just sayin, gotta judge the situation
 
user2620028
@rlemon can i just name towns? lol
 
move
 
user2620028
I just did
 
again!
 
3:07 PM
I've only sent back food once, and I felt super shitty about it. I tried so hard to not make a scene (my steak was basically raw) and apologized for even asking
 
oh man I love my steak rare
rare and cold
 
@Loktar I tend to tip 20% if the service is good. %15 is service is okay and food is good, <10% if I want them to know I'm unhappy.
 
I'm married, I pretty much have to send it back now
 
Waitress was so sweet about how I wasn't upset and kept assuring her I wasn't she gave us a free appetizer
 
@Loktar you must go crazy when there's a full moon
 
3:08 PM
never did before
 
user2620028
Basically anywhere i go the waitress is just playing on their phone and ignoring me.
 
@HatterisMad that isn't the common case everywhere else.
 
@Loktar I mean, so do I but unfortunately this steak moo'd at me :(
 
lol
I've eaten raw steak
 
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@SterlingArcher It wasn't cold enough then
 
3:08 PM
pft, when I ask for a steak they lead me out back to the grazing pasture with a fork and a knife.
 
one time my uncle was asked "how do you want your steak", he said "just slap it"
 
in college, alcohol may have been involved :p
 
love some fresh steak
 
but yeah I like it as rare as possible
 
I've never been rude to a wait staff person ever. They deal with enough assholes
 
3:09 PM
yea
 
he was referring to the cow
 
I've been rude then they are rude
like I asked if we could get a booth over a table and the lady was like "Ok just go ahead and pick wherever you want to sit and I will just follow behind"
so... I took my family and walked out the main door
 
whenever I'm heated at a sales person / service person I make sure to remind myself (and them) that I'm not angry at them, I apologize, I'm just letting off steam and I know they're just doing their job.. but I'm still pissed.
 
Did she follow behind you?
 
only until the register lol
I think she was confused at first
 
3:10 PM
Some say, to this day she still follows Loktar
 
man.. if she had an awesome sense of humor though..
 
In every family photo, a blurry figure sits in the background... following...
 
> Why are you getting in my car?!
 
lol
 
3:10 PM
yeah... that'd be the stuff of legend
 
@SterlingArcher LOL
 
she missed an opportunity
 
10/10 would have followed them
 
yeah I may have tipped her then
just the tip though ;)
 
@Loktar had she brought placemats, crayons, and cutlery you would have had to sit in the car and deal with dinner there. because that is fucking dedication
 
3:11 PM
> Ok, you're a bitch, but that's hilarious. Here's a $20. Go buy a whole marijuana or whatever it is you kids do
 
lol
man I love that image @SterlingArcher
cracks me up everytime.
 
> here kid, go see a star war
 
Mickey Mouse's life has gone to shit since he started doing crack
 
heroin
close enough
 
wtf is this thing from?
 
3:13 PM
dang
 
shoneys?
 
@Loktar animatronics band.
 
!!afk walkies time
 
lol weird
 
3:14 PM
well, maybe not animatronics
 
oh riiiight, what's that awful place's name
 
chuck-e-cheese
 
yes!
 
no..
i thought this was before that
 
@Luggage I think it is
 
3:15 PM
omg we saw a very large woman and a pregnant woman get into a NASTY brawl there once
 
but I knew that is what shane was thinking about
 
it was so funny, security ran in with headsets, I swear they said "we have a "... and some number
 
something-town?
rivertown?
 
we left about 2 minutes after they restrained them
 
@Shane code violet 050
 
3:18 PM
haha
 
megan fox has stubby thumbs. I'm sorry everyone
can't unsee
 
it was pretty intense man, looked like it was going to be one of those elephant seal brawls where there's blood all over the beach, except the beach was a bunch of little kids
 
@rlemon omg 2/10 wnb
 
@VeronicaDeane she needs to be in a sideshow
what a freak
 
3:20 PM
ikr
lol tla ftw
 
user2620028
wow talk about low standards
 
3:35 PM
Guys help can't control-c meteor process
why doth it torment me so
 
@rlemon That kids, is why you put collars on your bench press bar.
 
or don't try to squat 1500 lbs
 
I mean, if he can legitimately squat that, more power to him.
But get the right equipment for that sort of thing. Like a car.
 
Hey guys/gals. I have a fiddle ready to demo my problem.
Here it is:
http://fiddle.tinymce.com/51faab/21
Now the issue is that I need to block the .editor class from ever getting the .test red styling applied, without changing this line of code: $('.editor').addClass('test');

I can add any code I want to the page except I can't modify that line.
 
3:41 PM
@corvid google "how do I kill a process with ${myOS}"
 
I need to prevent xxx from being red.
I'd be glad to tell you WHY if you want if you're curious, but would love to find a solution.
 
@SeventhSon you will have to unset the color, change the selector, or change the classname on the element
there is no clean way, because you've introduced a crappy situation
 
@rlemon get a spotter omg...
 
I can't do anything specific, it has to be a general fix that will block all selectors.
 
you want the selector to ignore a section of the DOM, but you cannot change the selector, or the DOM class, or unset things.
you want water from stone.
 
3:46 PM
The problem is that the old control used "inline" and worked fine with textboxes, the new TinyMCE control V4.x requires DIVs instead of textboxes to support inline.
 
user2620028
please tell me that is real and not an onion article
 
I'm going to live life like it happened
 
@rlemon I can add any code I want, I just can't eliminate code.
 
@SterlingArcher it's his money and his watches, not his face, so you still have a chance :D
 
3:50 PM
like Beyonce absolutely needs a rich guy
 
@SeventhSon you have to change the elements class or change the selector or undo the CSS changes . Don't know what magical solution you are looking for
 
@GNi33 why have some of the money when you can have all of the money?
 
Well, for example, if I could add a div around the control or add a class that blocks the selectors, that would be a magical solution I'm looking for.
 
Jay z is a funny guy. Watch his interviews
 
user2620028
@GNi33 you make a good point, why do celebrities date other celebrities
 
3:52 PM
@SeventhSon that is more work than needed
 
adding more elements isn't going to fix this problem, since it's going directly to the element.
 
<div class="editor poop"></div>
$('.editor:not(.poop)')
or something
 
user2620028
@sterling just curious, what is the breakdown of your paycheck to different activities, 5% goes to stripper fund, 7% to booze fund
 
@HatterisMad similar lifestyle, celebrities won't even meet "normal" people on a regular basis like we do in bars and such, and a lot of other factors I'd guess. not primarily money, but I could be wrong
 
Yeah the problem is that I can't modify the selector code. I mean I CAN, but I would have to locate and change THOUSANDS of lines of code, literally.
 
3:54 PM
just override the style that the class applies.
uhm. find and replace exists for a reason
 
@SeventhSon if you're repeating a selector thousands of times you've done it incredibly wrong
 
It's not my website. I didn't engineer it. I just work here.
 
lol I'm not really sure. My entire cost of living (recurring payments including food, gas, bills, etc) account for maybe... 65-70% of my monthly take home?
 
my first ever star in this chat room was a bad pun
 
user2620028
jesus
 
3:55 PM
So about 30-35% of my pay goes to strippers
 
user2620028
@sterling you have like 3 cars on loan?
 
I mean... may car payment is prolly the equivalent of 3 normal cars?
 
It's a CMS, and the "designers" used selectors in thousands of custom places to modify the code on various instances of different websites. I can change the BASE code for the site all I want, but no t the selectors. I wish this wasn't an issue for me, I'm just tryign to find a fix.
 
user2620028
what do you drive
 
@HatterisMad or maybe just lives in an expensive area and is aggressively paying off loans.
 
3:56 PM
Audi
 
@SterlingArcher why are you spending so much on paint strippers?
 
user2620028
@rlemon very well could be as well
 
user2620028
good taste at least, audi is probably the best choice out of all the cost effective luxury cars right now
 
@rlemon Oh, there's a lot that's incredibly wrong about this, but I'm just tasked with finding a solution.
 
3:57 PM
I just calculated, I get 27% of my after tax income as spending
 
@SterlingArcher car payments? pfft
I've never made car payments in my life
 
user2620028
Same
 
cost effective luxury car? isn't that an oxymoron?
 
Yeah, I got my S4 last year. It's a 2010 with 59,000 miles at the time for 29k
 
The new Jag is $35K.
 
3:57 PM
If your not wasting all your money it isnt luxury
 
user2620028
not when you compare it to a non cost effective luxury car
 
my car is a POS :D
 
the definition of luxury is pouring pennies down a toilet
 
but hey, it works.
 
@yosefrow exactly
 
3:58 PM
!!define luxury
 
I will never not get an Audi. I'm ruined by the double clutch paddle shifting
 
@VeronicaDeane luxury Very wealthy and comfortable surroundings.
 
user2620028
my car is also a pos
 
@SterlingArcher plenty of other cars have that
 
hmm, no mention of pennies or toilets
 
3:58 PM
If it doesn't shift in a fraction of a second I can't drive it now
 
user2620028
hopefully it wont stay like that forever though
 
I don't care about cars.
 
@VeronicaDeane they need to update their dictionary
 
the Evo X, some/most Porsches, the GTR
 
if it gets me to where I want to go, I'm happy
 
3:58 PM
^
 
I'd rather spend money on the things I enjoy once I get there
not getting there
 
I'm selfish, I want people to look at me when I drive and be like dang, he's cool
 
The subway is my luxury car. It gets me where I want to go to
 
user2620028
yeah i enjoy driving / riding
 
@SterlingArcher I keep pictures of my house in my wallet.
 
3:59 PM
@SterlingArcher s/when I drive/as I pass them/
 
I love high-performance cars, but they're not practical for me IRL. It's cheap and easy in a sim though.
 
> ey bb, see my boiler? hawt right?
 
user2620028
so i would prefer to drive out to do something, get there and then turn around and drive back
 
@rlemon lmao, yeah, it's a fenced in backyard, no biggie
 
I am more of a bike person than a car person. I always found cars to be too limiting
 
3:59 PM
@SterlingArcher You are sooooo basic
 
user2620028
@veronica why are they not practical
 

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