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12:04 AM
@itanex it's asking me for an account
 
@copy more emojis + skype
 
It uses github or bitbucket with. Otherwise I'll open that up elsewhere in 30
 
@SomeKittens did you still wanna take a gander at my resume? I got more feedback and just made more edits
 
@NickDugger sure
 
12:11 AM
@NickDugger Can't comment
 
hmm?
oh, comment in the doc? Give me your email, I can set permissions
 
....why did I just type that out.
 
got it
 
@NickDugger how do you feel about Seattle
 
@itanex It's not on my radar, really
 
12:18 AM
@NickDugger tons of comments.
You also want to focus on what you accomplished, not what actions you performed.
 
@SomeKittens yeah, reading them. I really, really appreciate the criticism
Aren't actions accomplishments?
 
For instance:
- Wrote full-stack (MySQL/Node/Angular) code for new product in microservice architecture
VS
- Architected sentiment analysis tool used by 10 of the Fortune 50
 
Hmm, alright
 
"Wrote some code" vs. "Built a tool that saved company $X0,000 annually"
(Hope I'm making sense)
 
Yeah
 
12:24 AM
@SomeKittens What if I am a tool that saves the company 5 digits a year?
 
@KendallFrey Then you're still a tool and should be fired
 
@SomeKittens I still have room on the right side. Is there another section that I could include, or should I leave the white-space?
 
@SomeKittens I personally hate that self aggrandizing style
unless those claims are documented somehow
 
@NickDugger You'd do better to work on the left side
 
Alright
 
12:29 AM
@Mosho I'm not terribly comfortable with it either, but it works.
 
I can only hope that a technical, rather than an HR executive can see through bullshit on a CV
because I'm terrible at BSing
 
The location you submit your resume to really shifts the time you put in it. In Seattle companies like profit points and responsibilities. Whereas LA likes those who bolster themselves over what they actually did
Err not time ...tone
 
@itanex you can edit messages!
 
Mobile issues...
 
ah, yeah.
 
12:33 AM
No mobile edits
If a company your summiting to has an hr screen. You might call first and just find the level you need to write to. Most of the time it works. But not for FB MS Apple or Ggl
There are some really good guides on dice BTW
 
@Mosho In general, technical folks don't read resumes with a critical eye.
 
And hr throws out those with obvious grammer and spelling issues most of the time.
 
12:52 AM
@SomeKittens have you used bluebird with child_process.spawn by any chance?
 
Sadly, no
 
@SomeKittens i move my code over to plunkr here are is that link
can you access that?
its just js so the preview bombs out with 404
anyway i have to run... ill be back in a few hours...
 
1:50 AM
If a spawned process in node throws an error, why would it pipe the message to stdout instead of stderr?
 
@phenomnomnominal because it was written by derps
 
it's protractor, so derpy googlers then
 
is it true heroku gives 500 free apps
 
2:32 AM
some other unit
 
3:20 AM
@MuhammadUmer Yes
 
 
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4:53 AM
@argentum47 ugly indeed
 
@argentum47 it looks like they're escaping brackets
 
@taco it looks like shite, but they're escaping brackets
 
like fb.com?q=[1,2,3] ?
and why is it shit.
 
4:56 AM
@itanex lol, else there is pointless
 
how is everyone tonight?
 
ossm
you?
 
its night already?
 
@CSᵠ yeah should just be if(results){} return "";
 
it's morning, but he's prepping to leave i guess
 
4:57 AM
well unless the moon and stars are on a black-ish blue background during the day
 
yeah, and it's testing strict null because that's what .exec can return on fail
 
hmmm...

if('tonight' === 'good night')
return
 
but why is it not good.
"that's what .exec can return on fail" this was something I didn't no. good2know
 
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript/Reference/Global_Objects/RegExp/exec

food for thought
since EXEC only returns a non-null value on completion, testing for failure is not the desire of the method, the desire is to find value. testing for value explicitly says, "ON SUCCESSS" were as testing for failure can be detrimental.

though in this case, testing for failure or success comes to semantics, other conditions where the outcome of a method could be several types of failure with one type of success introduces unnecessary complications
 
5:14 AM
anyway, that's a good fit there
 
5:28 AM
How do I get the width of an element with "width:auto"?
This element has no margin/border/padding. I just need its width in pixels, but it is set to auto.
 
5:46 AM
getComputedStyle doesn't work?
 
if the overflow isnt set to none you can use getBoundingClientRect if otherwise your better using scrollWidth/scrollHeight
 
@argentum47 how do I do that?
 
!!tell charly mdn getcomputedstyle
 
err tyvm
 
5:54 AM
npmp
 
ugh so much more to learn...
 
take it slow and steady
 
document.getElementsByTagName('a')[0].clientWidth returned 200 but the element is about 40px. getComputedStyle returns auto.
 
block-level elements tend to occupy the whole width of their container
any chance your link is a block-level element?
 
I don't think so... but I have an a::before set to inline-block
 
6:06 AM
.offsetWidth ?
or just style.width ?
 
.offsetWidth also returns 200, style.width returns ""
 
Oh thanks that helped a lot
 
I think the result is correct jsfiddle.net/u7axuabr/2 , 124px + 2px border(both sides, 1+1)
 
Uncaught ReferenceError: ofw is not defined
 
6:16 AM
its W,
wait, are you
don't do that. :D its just a variable name, take anything
 
What?
 
nothing don't bother. continue..
 
I think `document.querySelector("a").offsetWidth returned undefined or something
nvm nvm nvm i made a HUGE mistake
yay it's working thanks to everyone who helped
 
Alpha Tango Charlie
 
what does that mean?
 
6:24 AM
nothing, its sounds Delta Force-ish.
 
k... bye
 
6:58 AM
Hi all
I am using Backbone in my project
I created a model in which I am passing a url
this returns me data of items
at one place I need all Items
In other page, I need only three Items
How to configure this?
 
7:26 AM
 
um, collection.first(3) , would you need 3 specific items ?
 
@argentum47 Hi, first of all I didn't defined a collection.
I didn't get the concept of collections
will read that
btw, your solution sounds as if I am getting all the items and then cutting to 3... right?
 
Weird Issue: I am unable to update the page title with .pushState().
My code looks like this:
history.pushState('', 'New URL: ' + pageIdForTitle, '/cord-blood/');
pageIdForTitle has a valid string
It is still taking the <title> in the HTML page.
and not getting updated
 
@Mr_Green yeah
 
that is performance wise wrong..
I mean.. why would I get complete collection instead of just 3 Items.. right?
 
7:42 AM
maybe it uses some lazy stuff, else it would be similar to returning every thing and doing an _.take(3)
oh no, sorry it doesn't get all the items. I don't know th internals, its just fetches first 3
overlooked "am getting all the items and then" :P
 
hmm
AFAIK, the client language can't get limited items until the backend is configured so
 
lazy.js ?
well yeah, I agree, but that collection is like an api that returns 3 items, isn't it?
I mean normally that's how its done in a controller in rails, I take three items and serialize and then rturn the result as a response from the controller action
 
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Q: Get same Item collection but with different limits

Mr_GreenIn my Backbone project, I am getting a collection of Items through the following Model: MyApp.models.Items = Backbone.Model.extend({ url: "getItems" }); and then later: var model = new MyApp.models.Items(); model.fetch().then(function(data){ // do something here with fetched data }); ...

 
@FlorianMargaine proto is not deprecated but it's still a bad idea for most stuff :D
 
@argentum47 I asked question. please check if you have time.
it is just a taco is spinning.. is this a joke? I didn't get it.
 
8:03 AM
ok
 
Can't wait till the pendulum swings back and we rip all the useless Javascript out of the webapps so that the web can be fast again
 
I thought node and angular and react are future of webapps
 
angular dead, angular-like... maybe
 
Jim is dead!! :(
 
poor Jim
he needs food
he eats RAM
he occasionally eats SWAP or PageFile also
 
8:28 AM
Anyone else having GitHub SSH access issues?
I'm only getting FATAL ERROR: Network error: Connection timed out
 
@OliverSalzburg nope, no issue on my side
 
@FlorianMargaine Thanks
 
github is undert attack it seems
 
@CSᵠ Ah, thanks. I only checked the status dashboard
 
ymw
 
8:40 AM
@rlemon @Loktar today is the day /o/
2
 
NO, catastrophe averted
 
@CSᵠ He should start by removing ad network JS from their own site
 
@OliverSalzburg lol, no, that brings $ so he can spread the word :))
 
@CSᵠ curious why you think so about angular...they're currently asking me to learn it for work, and it seems there are many job openings too
 
@Freelancer it it's for work it make sense
 
8:52 AM
probably the coolest tweet-sized message ever
 
9:30 AM
@BenFortune Haha that's brilliant. And pointless. But brilliant.
 
I'm going to train my cat to do the same.
Motion sensor and a laser pen attached to a motor.
 
9:44 AM
@BenFortune awesome, I want that
 
ASR
can any one tell me what is the meaning of overflow-y:auto;
overflow-x:hidden; ?
 
!!tell asr mdn css overflow
 
How do you guys mitigate GitHub connectivity issues with your own deployments? Whenever GitHub is having issues it's a major problem for us. First of all because we host our code with them and because literally every single bower dependency we have is pulled from GitHub
 
ASR
@CapricaSix thanks :)
@JanDvorak and you too thanks
 
9:54 AM
This dependency is becoming a major issue for us lately, when the goal to use GitHub was to reduce having to deal with issues
 
@OliverSalzburg I don't host mission critical code on GitHub, I host it on my own server
Also, I don't use bower, I use npm
 
@SecondRikudo Even for frontend code? I noticed that there are differences in certain packages depending if you pull from npm or bower
 
@OliverSalzburg Even for frontend code.
 
@SecondRikudo I'll consider that. Thanks
 
The only difference is that you're pulling server versions as well, but in 99% of the cases, the browser version is included with npm install.
 
9:58 AM
Sounds good
 
I run Gitlab on my dedi
 
If only our complete build system wasn't so dependent on bower :P We pull the main section from bower.json and use that to populate our imports for which resources to compile into the application
 
Gitlab's CI is really good
 
Well, this is really a problem with our gulp tasks, not the CI itself (for which we use strider-cd)
 
@OliverSalzburg have a caching solution in front of npm/github/bower
 
10:08 AM
@FlorianMargaine We use local-npm and used to use private-bower, which are caches for those. But especially private-bower was causing issues :\
But, yeah, seems pretty clear that we should simply move our code and our dependencies to our own servers
 
10:21 AM
Thanks for your input btw :)
 
ASR
how to set the height for the div dynamically?
 
Just setup owncloud on my dedi, goodbye dropbox
 
10:36 AM
@BenFortune Congratz
 
@Fanghornn On?
Oh.
 
@BenFortune I'll try it too soon, doest it burn a lot of CPU usage ?
@BenFortune Because my raspberry pi can't take too much
 
That's with 4 node servers running, gitlab and owncloud
 
What does the y scale means on the cpu chart ( 2 to 10)
 
It's just the CPU load
 
10:43 AM
wow ok
 
Bare in mind, 2-10 is absolutely tiny
In linux, if you're working the CPU it usually goes over 400
No wait, that's %. I'm thinking of system load
 
Ah !
Still tiny for all these processes
But the memory usage is wicked
 
Memory doesn't seem to be reporting correctly in proxmox
 
oh i see
Still, i don't think hosting an owncloud server on a raspberry pi would be a good idea
She got something like <512 mb of ram and a tiny CPU
Would be a pain to write files synchronously
while having ssh connections opened and one node server running
 
If you store the files on a USB and not the SD I don't see why there'd be a problem
 
10:49 AM
It took her 50 minutes to compile nodejs so.. xD
 
Took about 5 on my RPi2
 
o_ô
The brand new one ?
 
Aye, bought it the day it launched :)
 
People, can i make a default-http-success function on $http service in angular?
 
@MoshMage You can make an interceptor, that might help depending on what you want to achieve?
 
10:57 AM
@ivarni what I want to achieve is: "when someone writes a $http method, and that call is successful, then send up a broadcast of sorts"
 
I would use an interceptor then
 
google-fu'ing, thanks :)
 
The docs at docs.angularjs.org/api/ng/service$http have a section for it, it's pretty straight forward :)
note that the API changed at some point, so if you're on an older version it will be a bit different
 
@BenFortune Be carefull, don't take a pic of her with a flash or your servers will goes down xD
 
Yeah, I'm using latest angular so I'm safe there ^^
 
10:59 AM
@Fanghornn Don't have a xenon flash camera anyway, and it's hid inside a case :)
 
@BenFortune ahah ^^
 
-11
Q: What is the result when running the following piece of code?

Ismael R.What is the result when running the following piece of code: int main(int argc, char* argv[]) { while ( true ) fork(); }

Some bleep edited that unsalvageable thing to completely change the question's context / intentions, then had it re-opened, and answered it, instead of just posting a new question.
 
I thought better of that Cerbrus guy...
 
Wut
 
oh. You're referring to someone else.
 
11:08 AM
What a clown.
 
@JanDvorak: I'm confused now, did I do something I shouldn't have?
 
You said "some bleep edited the question ..." then were the last editor when I went to check the question
 
oow :P
Yea, I reverted that guy's work.
 
it's not the same guy who answered tho
 
Digs through revision history
 
11:11 AM
^^
 
WAT
A 71k user...
 
gasp
 
Bonus points if the answer made no sense aftter the rollback
 
@Cheersandhth.-Alf: You Completely changed the entirety of what the OP's question is about. DON'T do that. You should have posted a new question instead. Related meta discussionCerbrus 11 secs ago
It still makes some sense
 
Seen this happen before, reported to mods and they also reverted even though the answer then no longer made sense
 
11:13 AM
hi, is there any Kendo ui "merlin" here? , i really need help with this: stackoverflow.com/questions/29299365/…
 
You just don't completely change a question's intentions
 
@Japa "merlin"? Are you looking for fish.se?
 
huh?!, no just kidding...merlin has an expert
but, are you aware of kendo ui functionality´s?
 
I will never not star that.
It's amazing that someone got the rights for a TLD that's only relevant one day a year.
 
@rlemon inception
@BenFortune you mean 56 days a year?
 
@rlemon you didn't fool me
But I did forget to check the video id :(
 
I didn't recognize the video id... it's been too long
 
11:38 AM
@FlorianMargaine But there's only one Black Friday a year?
 
@BenFortune there are 56 fridays where rebecca black sings
 
@FlorianMargaine that's not the only thing that's too long
 
@FlorianMargaine But I was talking about the TLD, not the domain :p
 
@BenFortune they go together
 
56 fridays a year? I can't work out how that works, but then again it's friday
 
11:50 AM
TODAY IS FRIDAY
THIS AMAZING DAY I GET THE TIME TO SLEEP
AFTER A WEEK :D
 
wee
I start my easter vacation today :)
 
@Cerbrus: As I see it, you prove that you have not understood a thing, neither the technical of the question (which really was too precisely pointed to be anything but what it was), nor the political. Tell me why you're using such an anonymous nick rather than your own name. And how old you are. And please do abstain from making more noise. — Cheers and hth. - Alf 8 mins ago
What a dick o.O
 
He's edited it again, lol...
 
@Cerbrus Flag him
 
I did.
I'm not gonna revert again. Flagged the question as revert-war...
 
11:54 AM
Also, what the fuck does your nick have to do with anything?
 
@Cerbrus Right choice of action
 
@BenFortune and why does he call someone out when he himself uses a nick?
 
It's a bit rich that he accuses you of being anonymous, considering his own nick
 
what a nickhead
2
 
do they get it you didn't make the actual edit?
 
11:57 AM
@Cerbrus: I didn't notice, but what was the point of your VANDALISM of the question? — Cheers and hth. - Alf 10 mins ago
 
@rlemon What a scam!
 
the OP did confirm that. And while it's true that stating that you are ignorant, necessarily means I'm calling you that, I think that's important for you to know. And also for others. — Cheers and hth. - Alf 56 secs ago
Guys, please flag this <redacted>
Who the hell does he think he is with that attitude
 
Just sounds like a 52 year old keyboard warrior, flag it and move on.
 
Oh I'm flagging
 
But... if the OP validated the edit, it should count as his edit.
 
12:00 PM
Except the OP didn't
 
I see he's from Norway. I apologize on behalf of the Norwegian population :/
 
As I commented on the related meta post: "If the OP confirms the original intentions of the post were incorrect, the OP should edit the question. Not some random passer-by."
Especially not in such a significant manner
One of my flags was found "helpful" already...
 
Guys, Which one is efficient, Jquery or JS and why?
 
@Anand Welcome to the JavaScript chat! Please review the room pseudo-rules. Please don't ask if you can ask or if anyone's around; just ask your question, and if anyone's free and interested they'll help.
 
@Anand jQuery is a library for javascript
 
12:07 PM
jQuery is JavaScript.
 
@Anand jQuery can be faster to write, but it is just a DOM Abstraction written in JS for JS and is slower than JS itself.
 
@rlemon slower than well-written JS
most vanilla javascript isn't well-written
 
Faster to write, yes. Faster to run? nevah!
 
@JanDvorak most jQuery isn't well written
I see better vanilla than I do jQuery 7 days a week
 
@rlemon noted
 
12:09 PM
@Cerbrus damn. I do not always flag, but when I do i make sure to select the "rude" option.
 
stackoverflow.com/questions/29295427/… He's still at it, now telling a 11k user he's missing the point of SO. Not that bad, but still...
 
Thanks all for your answers
 
@Cheersandhth.-Alf not sure why you are mentioning OP's hygiene. Do you have a reason to suspect there is something suspicious about it? — Jan Dvorak 19 secs ago
 
^ like
 
12:18 PM
dates suck :/ Everything that has to do with the measurement of time does
 
Just use kiloseconds...
Wait. Unix already does.
gives me a PCG idea...
 
!!fix graphing or work on data binding
 
@rlemon fix graphing
 
!!procastinate or work
 
@Cerbrus work
 
12:20 PM
Damnit
 
Ohh! so yea my bird is still running
thirsty bastard..
 
nice!
 
gonna leave him to run over the weekend
see if he makes it
evaporation in the cup might stop him
 
connect him to a leaky faucet
 
Is Object.assign() a good idea for merging objects?
 
12:27 PM
!!mdn object.assign
 
For example, defaults and user options.
 
@BenFortune since ES6
jQuery has $.extend
 
and underscore/lodash has _.extend
 
12:30 PM
damn, not even Chrome can assign
 
It's for an iojs library so, I'm guessing yes
 
In the context of blocking in JS, What is more accurately to say "Don't block the event loop" or "Don't block call stack", actually event loop will place some code ready for execution after the call stack is empty.
 
I'd say the former
 
Is there a clean way to have inputs of type number without those up and down arrows ?
 
@JanDvorak, event loop?
 
12:32 PM
I'd use type=text
@Srle yes
 
for me, both of them can be correct in that way there is nothing wrong in saying "dont block call stack"
 
@Srle I wouldn't understand your version...
 
@dystroy Have you had a look at stackoverflow.com/questions/3790935/…?
 
@dystroy appearance maybe
 
IIRC IE does not support appearance
I recall having to use ::-ms-expand { display: none; } to get rid of the default select-box styling, but I think that only works on IE9+ (or IE10+)
Yup, my memory was correct: caniuse.com/#search=appearance
 
12:43 PM
select::-ms-expand {
  display: none;
}

select:focus::-ms-value {
  background-color: transparent;
}
To also get rid off the blue focus that's there for no real reason (thanks IE)
 
I replaced select elements with a custom structure of divs and spans... Works great, but I regret it.
 
Yeah, I like keeping the tag semantics so I prefer an overlay over the <select> instead
 
I should have done that instead
 
also means screenreaders have a much better time
 
screenreaders are so 2000 & late
 
12:46 PM
heh, in Norway we're required by law to support them
 
really? So weird that the government would give website requirements.
 
all public sites made after july 1st 2014 has to conform to universal accesibility rules
 
I want to visit Norway some day. I have pretty strong Norwegian ancestry; I want to learn the language, too
Both sides of my family have only been in America for the past 4 generations, or so
 
It's up there with some of the most useless languages you can learn TBH, due to the fact you only have about 5 million people to use it with :)
 
lol, I'll still learn it
 
12:49 PM
But we have some nice nature, so I can recommend a visit, though I am obviously biased
bring a wallet, it's expensive here :/
 
I have a question... with meteor, how do you properly set up configurations of accounts? As in, I made my own service, but it needs a config
 
@corvid Out of interests sake, is there anyone here that actually uses meteor and can help you with it?
 
I was about to ask that, lol
 
it seems like this room doesn't usually use meteor all that much
 
I tend to her people in here bashing meteor
 

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