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6:49 AM
Hello Everyone
am a new bie in developing apps on windows 8
can anyone help me in learning apps development process
 
7:23 AM
if anyone looking to provide authentication for windows 8 app while calling some api this link will be a lot helpful
@AkshatSharma GenerationApp.com is a place where you can start from
 
 
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9:39 AM
is any body there ??
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10:52 AM
hello @all
@AkshatSharma i am also starting with windows dev
 
hello there
 
 
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PCS
1:14 PM
Hello all
 
1:37 PM
@RohitWagh The link talks about remote authentication. What about authentication via a logged in user or Kerberos? Could you please point me to some document or guide.
 
2:18 PM
ponkey wagerat dhachka dikhin?
 
2:45 PM
El Salmo 3likom wa Ra7mat ALLAH we Barakatoh
Hello Developers :)
Hello Guys
 
3:08 PM
hello to all Windows 8 Users :)
i have a question? can i ask it here?
 
We are mostly developers, not users, but you can try to ask your question :)
 
yes i mean dev but we are also the first users of Windows 8 (later the public version) :p
my question:
Can i create in windows 8 Store (metro) app IE a plugin or extension inside?
example show a extra button?
 
3:24 PM
No, Metro IE does not support plugins, unfortunately
 
Dev or User , Don't make it problem :)
 
ah, OK.
But is it true (possible) to inject a CSS file in the "webview" element (c#) if i create a windows store app?
 
4:23 PM
is today the last day for this chat?
 
@sissonb nope! there will be chat events (like the one that starts here in half an hour) every tuesday and thursday for the next month or so
 
@AbbyT.Miller thanks for the info
 
hi everyone
 
4:41 PM
Hi ... to all!
 
Hello
 
Is it possible to open another app from a metro app?
 
Should be possible I guess (though I havent tried that)
 
@manojlds It is possible using activation via protocol or file association
 
@AndreiMarukovich I want to write a simple shutdown app :)
was hoping to call a .bat file
but don't think that's possible
 
4:46 PM
No, this scenario is not possible :)
 
Windows RT has AFAIK no support for *.bat files. But Microsoft also forbids such actions like shutdowns from apps.
 
No, shutdown app may not be possible.
where are doris chen and jerry nixon?
 
@MamtaDalal not here quite yet! we're a little early for the event, but they should be along shortly
 
cha-ching!
 
what is a good place to start learning windows 8 development?
 
4:55 PM
The Hello World examples at MSDN are very good.
 
can you give me a link @ComFreek?
 
oh okay
Dinesh, have a look at Generationapp.com
 
@DineshVenkata Here is the one for C#/VB and XAML: msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/apps/Hh986965.aspx
 
@Dinesh, have a look at www.Generationapp.com
 
yes @MamtaDalal @ComFreek thank you I'm an android developer never attempted .net, C# or VB
what the quintessentials
 
4:59 PM
@DineshVenkata Do you have HTML/JavaScript skills? You can also use them to create Win8 apps
 
for learning to build windows 8 apps?
 
@DineshVenkata we've compiled a list of some good resources on the apptivate resources page... click around, there's some stuff there (though it's not nearly exhaustive)
 
@ComFreek I think then the app will become a non native app
 
I need help with my understanding. It feels like to me that WinRT is the new Win32 and API is designed just like the .NET framework API. However I cannot use all the same .NET framework items in WinRT, I can use some but not all. So is WinRT consider .NET or is its own thing using C#, JavaScript, or C++?
 
okay @AbbyT.Miller
 
5:01 PM
@DineshVenkata That's the point of Windows 8. There are more than one native language. The only thing you don't have is the performance of C++ and DirectX.
 
@Dinesh You can use C++ too...with XAML
 
hi @DorisChen, welcome!
 
@DavidBasarab It is a basically subset of .net. Similar to how silverlight or windows phone development offer some parts of the .net framework, they also have controls and extensions that are only available as part of the winrt framework
 
hi everybody
 
@ComFreek so you mean c++ can be used?
 
5:01 PM
hello @DorisChen
 
Finally, @DorisChen is here, so glad to see you Doris
 
@DineshVenkata Not really the standard C++, but it's very similar
 
do you mean c# @ComFreek ?
 
@Dinesh, yeah but a diff flavor, not the old one
 
@DineshVenkata Read more about the differences here: msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/apps/hh465045.aspx
 
5:02 PM
Can anyone help me find information on developing a windows 8 app with HTML?
 
@PhilipK Do you have a specific question? Otherwise take a look at the Hello World: msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/apps/hh986964.aspx
 
sure @MamtaDalal are you from India?/
 
@PhilipK There are plenty of resources for using HTML in Win8
Yes, @Dinesh I am from India
 
5:04 PM
@PhilipK sure. Let me know what you are looking for.
 
Thanks all. That is good for now.
 
oh I'm from India too @MamtaDalal I rarely see people here late in the night from India
 
@DorisChen (or anyone else who might know), Jowin was in here yesterday looking for resources on developing an app that interacts with a DB (mysql, mssql or sqlite) - anyone know of any good tutorials?
 
@JohnKoerner Okay that makes sense.
 
@AbbyT.Miller I've just found that one: timheuer.com/blog/archive/2012/08/07/…
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5:06 PM
Has anybody been able to mock interfaces for unit testing in WinRT?
 
@ComFreek excellent! i'll let him know, thanks
 
Well, if you are keen on learning and sharing knowledge, time is no barrier :)
 
@ComFreek @PhilipK Yes, this will be a good starting point. If you will be more interested to transform an existing web app to Wins 8, check out blogs.msdn.com/b/dorischen/archive/2012/10/02/…
 
@Abby I just made a partial app that used sqlite :) but it's not complete yet
 
@AbbyT.Miller Yes, it's probably esier to use SQLite as it's supported well in Wins 8 RTM.
 
5:07 PM
Is there any way for an app for registering as a (file) printer? Like OneNote.
 
yeah absolutely @MamtaDalal
 
@AbbyT.Miller One link I found really useful was this one: codeguru.com/csharp/.net/…
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@MamtaDalal @ComFreek where did you start learning building windows 8 apps from?
 
@DineshVenkata Only MSDN so far ;)
 
@DorisChen, is there any way to save the chat transcripts from here to a file? PDF perhaps?
 
user2458346
5:09 PM
most of them whom submit their applications submit review in terms of enduser and doesnt note for developers point and most of them were lack of screen shots
 
@MamtaDalal you can view the transcript for this room at any time just by clicking the "info" link in the upper right
 
@DineshVenkata My experience is that taking one of the sample apps and modifying it is a great way to learn.
 
@DineshVenkata I used a whole lot of resources....while MSDN is good for API references, the other simpler blogs made concepts easy to understand
 
Gill Cleeren has a good thing going at silverlightshow.net. His Win8 series are something to watch out for.
 
5:10 PM
Hi everyone. My name is Jerry Nixon. I am part of the Microsoft team here to help answer your Windows 8 app dev questions. As a favor to me, preface your questions with QUESTION: so I don't miss anybody!
 
the transcripts are searchable too
hi @JerryNixon, welcome!
 
@JohnKoerner yeah I'm from Android so have an idea on app development its just that one think I'm looking for which can get me started
 
@MamtaDalal you get your answer now.
 
Thanks @AbbyT.Miller, @DorisChen
 
QUESTION @JerryNixon : Is there any way for an app for registering as a (file) printer/device? Like OneNote (desktop version) it does.
 
5:11 PM
@ComFreek no, sorry
 
QUESTION: @JerryNixon What are the pros and cons of sqlite versus Windows 8 local storage?
 
@MamtaDalal Sqlite is relational. Local storage is a file
 
And what about indexed db?
 
@DineshVenkata I would suggest creating a "grid app" from the VS 2012 template. It has sample data in it and you can start just by massaging that and replacing bits of content here and there.
 
@AbbyT.Miller Did you get the link I suggested for sqlite? That's a very good resource, explained in simpler terms as compared to tim's blog
 
5:13 PM
If I own 2 apps, is there some way to copy a downloaded app from one PC to another?
 
@ComFreek No, no. Even though IndexDb is available to C# developers, the reality is, it's just like a dictionary to us. There's no reason to go through that extra work. Just use a serialized dictionary if that's all you want.
 
@ComFreek Yes, if you want to use a HTML5 standard database, Index DB will be a good approach. It's non-sql, just name/value pair. It's one of the way to do local storage.
 
@MamtaDalal yes, thanks! it looks good. i will pass it along as well, and i starred it in this chat room so hopefully other people will see it too :)
 
on @JohnKoerner thank you
 
@MamtaDalal each of these chat events will be 'bookmarked' into a standalone conversation, too, which you can find here
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5:14 PM
@mvark if you own two apps from the Windows Store? Why would you not just download it again? Copy is the hard way. You can install on 5 machines (without additional cost) after you purchase from the store.
@ComFreek You can register an app as a file handler, however. That means files ending with .myapp can automatically launch your app and are passed to it. This might be part of what you are wanting to accomplish.
 
@JerryNixon QUESTION: Jerry is that 5 machine limit a 5 concurrent or 5 total? Is there a way to de-authorize an app from a machine/device?
 
@JerryNixon Not really but the Share charm could also be a good solution for my app.
 
@AbbyT.Miller Thanks, I got that now :)
 
no prob :)
 
QUESTION: I haven't uploaded any app for the Windows Store. But is it possible to package mulitple apps, so users can download them all at once?
 
5:17 PM
@JohnKoerner 5 total. It's how the new Office will be, too
@ComFreek Yeah, other apps could share to your app. The only thing is, you cannot register your app as a printer device. But can you register your app as a target device in the devices charm?... Lemme look
 
@JerryNixon QUESTION: With all of the new devices coming out that support Win 8, what is the best strategy for testing to ensure the application works well across various devices without having to purchase a ton of hardware?
 
@ComFreek Hey, read this and see if it speaks to what you are thinking with your app msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/apps/xaml/…
 
@JohnKoerner there is a screen resolution option in the simulator which will let you test your app on screens from 10" tablets to 27" displays with both widescreen and 4:3 aspect ratios.
 
@JohnKoerner First, you may want to try to test on the simulator with different resosulution. Depends where you are, In US, we will have some MS retail store events, you may bring your app to test in the event.
 
@JohnKoerner Two answers. The first is that building on WinRT gives a universal experience. Unlike, say, Android that has a fractured set of interface devices, Windows 8 is constant so you need only to test on one.
@JohnKoerner The second part of that question has to do with capabilities. It would be smart to test on a device that has the capabilities you expect to use. And on a device that does not. Since the device itself is abstracted you don't need to test all of them (again, unlike android). But testing on a good and a bad is very smart. I would also like to test on an Intel and an ARM.
 
5:24 PM
@DorisChen Thanks. Do you have a list of events that are happening in the US?
 
@JohnKoerner That's my strategic advice :D
 
@JerryNixon Not what I'm looking for but very interesting. Thanks.
 
@JerryNixon (though not a dev question) I wanted to know if there is a way at all to download apps I own once and copy them to my other PCs. Minesweeper is a whooping 100MB! ...and so I have a related QUESTION: is there a max size limit on how huge an app can be?
 
@ComFreek Well, what you can do is if your app needs to be compiled for more than one platform you can upload them all and they are presented to the user as a single app and they get the version that is right for them. Otherwise, no. You would need to package one app per app, so to speak.
 
@SoftwareDeveloper @DorisChen Thanks I haven't tried the simulator yet, as I have just been debugging locally. I'll give that a shot.
 
5:26 PM
@JohnKoerner If you are in US, pick a MS retail store near you and check for Windows 8 events in the store. Every store may have different schedule. This event will be a 4-5 weeks workshop to help you jump up on windows 8 development.
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@ComFreek Not what you were looking for? I was answering someone else's question ;)
 
@JerryNixon Hmmm? I've replied to your message with the Media Play sample ;)
 
@ComFreek Ah, okay
@ComFreek Well, that's all I have for PlayTo target
 
@JerryNixon Great answer to @JohnKoerner's question!
 
@MamtaDalal Well, that's nice; thanks. The whole model is nice. It's handy to have a nice platform.
 
5:30 PM
QUESTION @JerryNixon But to continue his question, what if one cannot all that hardware to test? I mean what if one wants to be smart but cant afford the costs?
 
Abby T. Miller has added an event to this room's schedule.
 
@MamtaDalal These are the realities, are they not. There are some things you can do. The first you can do is leverage the simulator which is very robust. The second you can do is find a Windows 8 champ like @DorisChen or me and email your project to them to test. The third you can do is go deep in debt and buy a bunch of machines! There are some local options for you too. Often your local MS Store has workshops for you. Your local developer community may also have a lot of hardware among them.
@MamtaDalal There are many options for developers, and most of them are local
@MamtaDalal depending on where you are
 
If you are looking for MS store locations, you can start here: content.microsoftstore.com/home.aspx
 
@JerryNixon Right, I understand that now. Thanks!
 
@MamtaDalal No Microsoft Stores in India yet!
 
5:35 PM
@JerryNixon Yes, we have a local user group but that's not as active as those in US. Activities are a little sporadic.
 
@MamtaDalal It sounds to me like your local Microsoft community needs someone smart and motivated to step up and offer some leadership @MamtaDalal! Maybe that is you.
 
@JerryNixon @JohnKoerner We did have an #appFest recently at a neighboring city, Bangalore, which set a world record and entered the Guinness Book
 
@MamtaDalal What was the record? Most apps?
 
@JerryNixon @JohnKoerner Though I couldnt attend the appfest due to other commitments, I did keep abreast of what was happening there
 
@MamtaDalal Well, that's exciting!
 
5:37 PM
@JerryNixon @DorisChen in continuation to my earlier question about the possibility of downloading an app just once & copying it to multiple machines (because on a low-bandwidth internet connection downloading the same big app multiple times can be a pain)...... is there a suggested minimum Internet bandwidth metric that apps which use the Internet capability should have?
 
@JerryNixon Largest number of developers coding simultaneously under one roof...16 hours...3000 developers
 
@MamtaDalal wow, it sounded great.
 
@MrG.Knowledge It sure was. Pity I missed it.
 
QUESTION: Is it important to upgrade from RTM to the GA version? Or can I wait until the RTM license is invalid?
 
@MrG.Knowledge @JerryNixon What was grt abt the event was the deluge of ideas that flowed. In just 16 hours, people created stunning apps.
 
5:41 PM
@ComFreek RTM is the GA version
 
@ComFreek What is GA?
 
@MamtaDalal GA standards for General Availability - which is October 26th
 
@MamtaDalal WOW, team work always sucessful.
 
@MamtaDalal (for Windows 8)
 
General Availibility - I thought there will be again another version on October 26th
 
5:42 PM
@ComFreek General Availability I suppose. But then if u r a MSDN/TEchnet subscriber, you already have that.
@ComFreek Yea by then I guessed that
 
@mvark I am not aware if there is a minumum requirement for this. The internet should at least be good enough for any kind of download. Are you trying to test the app on different machine?
 
No I'm not a subscriber, I have the 180 days limit
 
@MamtaDalal TechNet and MSDN subscribers have had the RTM install of Windows 8 for quite a while (early August). When it is public (Oct 26) the same version will be available to the public.
 
@ComFreek Oh thnen you are in trouble because it will expire once that period gets over. And to reinstall you might have to do a clean install :(
 
@ComFreek Oh, that is the trial version; yeah, you will need to buy a real version
 
5:44 PM
@JerryNixon Yes, I know. I have one too :)
 
GA - General Availability ...i'll add it to my list of MS acronyms :-) mvark.blogspot.in/2009/04/what-do-ctp-rc-rtm-rtw-mean.html
 
Yes, I know but luckily I have created separate partitions for my Documents, Downloads, ... folder.
 
@JerryNixon @DorisChen @MrG.Knowledge @mvark Am compiling a list of Win8 acronyms and definitions...hopefully will upload soon
 
@mvark What's RTW stand for?
 
@JerryNixon Release to Web
 
5:45 PM
@ComFreek I think there is a $49 offer to upgrade to Windows 8 if you want to get a real one.
 
@JerryNixon like in Silverlight, we had a RTW
 
@ComFreek Separate partition? Just use the SkyDrive desktop client and it's all in the cloud and "reinstall" doesn't matter in the slightest!
 
@DorisChen I've read 40€ somewhere in the Internet.
 
@JerryNixon Question: Is there a minimum level of functionality required from an app if there is no internet connection available? One of my apps reads data from a website and would be pretty useless without an internet connection. I know I will fail gracefully without a connection, but is there some level of functionality I need to provide?
 
@JerryNixon I already use SkyDrive - but for other files. The really BIG problem for me is that I do NOT want to change my directory structure. This is really a missing feature :(/
 
5:48 PM
@JohnKoerner You probably need to handle a situation like this -- no internet. You need provide some default content, or give a warning like check your internet, etc.
 
@JohnKoerner Failing gracefully is a little subjective, isn't it? You have to support SnapView but have you seen the Store app handle SnapView? I guess it does. The certification requirement basically means you must not fail, you must not have an exception because there is no network connectivity. How you handle it is up to the developer and the app. It is not prescribed.
 
@DorisChen @JerryNixon Thanks.
 
@JohnKoerner What about caching/saving the latest downloaded information?
 
@ComFreek I was definitely thinking of keeping cached data around, but for the first startup I would not have that. I guess I will try developing with my network cable pulled for a night to see what happens :)
 
@JohnKoerner Another consideration is the relevance of the data. Caching stock quotes isn't going to get you any gold stars. Also, remember the first-run scenario when you simply can't have anything in cache yet. You have to handle that, too
@JohnKoerner Even if your application just went black with a message saying "Internet is required" that would technically be meeting the requirement. The user may not be impressed, I just want to reiterate that this is a developer decision.
 
5:51 PM
@DorisChen I've been downloading various apps to look for ideas & best practices... i wanted to copy rather than download Minesweeper (100MB) to a different PC as I was on a low bandwidth connection. that's what made me wonder if there is a way at all to copy.....there was no proper progress indicator, just a message "Installing Microsoft Minesweeper..." ...& it took so much time I thought it hung on me....
 
@mvark I see. Thanks for the feedback.
 
@mvark There are two ways to install a Windows 8 app - either through the store or through side-loading. Side-loading has native support on Win RT, Win 8 Pro and Enterprise only. Windows 8 Core can be "enabled" by installing Visual Studio. As far as I know, apps from the store can not be copied and side-loaded to another PC. At least I hope not for IP sake.
 
@mvark If it's time out or something, you will see an installation error msg eventually.
 
@dorischen i ranted about it here - mvark.blogspot.in/2012/10/windows-8-rant-1.html :-) BTW, i'm loving Wordament....do you have any technical details on Win 8 features it implements... even from a dev perspective its inspiring the way it makes you an addict
thanks @dorischen & @JerryNixon for listening to my rant :-)
 
@mvark The real question about those apps (including solitaire) is "why are they so big in the first place?" I am amazed at their size (considering what they do).
 
5:59 PM
is there a max size limit on how huge an app can be?
if there is i would like to keep it mind
 
@mvark That's an interesting question. I have never been asked that.
@mvark +1 for you!
 
Any idea if there are plans to "true up" the controls/features between XAML and HTML5/JS? ie: No VariableSizedWrapGrid in HTML5/JS or the tremendous App Bar icon availability in JS vs XAML
 
Interesting discussions :)
 
Is there any list of UI/functionality differences between XAML and HTML?
 
6:02 PM
@SoftwareDeveloper +1 for that link! V useful
 
2 gb is huge!!! :)
 
@ComFreek Not exactly what you're looking for, but this SO link might help: stackoverflow.com/questions/12644535/…
 
@SoftwareDeveloper You can try listview, or CSS3 flexbox to achieve the function of VariableSizedWrapGrid in HTML5/JS. Also from XAML you can also invoke JS code.
 
thanks for the max size 2 GB info.....i wouldn't want to download that big an app :-)
 
Makes me wonder if the Windows Store follows Metro principles to check for metered connections, that's peoples cap right there!
 
6:04 PM
@MamtaDalal Software Developer has written something about "tremendous App Bar icon availability".
@SoftwareDeveloper Where have you read this?
 
@mvark There is a 2GB maximum limit to Windows 8 apps
@mvark Think that would take any time to download? ;)
@SoftwareDeveloper The same icons are available in JS as XAML.
 
@comfreak Relatively speaking there are a lot. This guy has two good posts. adamkinney.com/blog/2012/03/04/… and adamkinney.com/blog/2012/03/05/…
 
@JerryNixon god forbid if there was a power cut (i'm in india) or an internet disconnection while i was downloading that 2gb app :-)
 
But then you can do stuff with Segoe Symbol font too jonathanantoine.com/2012/03/05/…
@jerrynixon but are the same icons available in XAML as JS? I could be wrong. :)
 
6:08 PM
@JerryNixon QUESTION: If I pull content from a website's API and have no control over the content, what is the correct age rating to choose for my app? I was thinking 16+. I remember reading something about an app like this being called a storefront app (or something like that)
 
@SoftwareDeveloper Yeah, they are not part of XAML or JS, they are just characters in the font. The font is identical in every/any language. So yes, definately
 
Yeah some dude was freaking out about porn from Wikipedia app.
 
@JohnKoerner We understand that in some cases, apps provide a gateway to retail content, user generated content, or web based content. We classify those apps as either Storefront apps, whose primary function is to aggregate and sell third party media or apps, or Streaming apps, whose primary function is to aggregate and stream web-based images, music, video or other media content.
 
@jerrynixon Ah ok, good to know, I took his blog posts at face value.
 
@JohnKoerner In some cases, it may be acceptable for a Storefront or Streaming app to include some content that might otherwise be prohibited in a single purpose app. msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/apps/hh694083.aspx (Section 5.1)
 
6:11 PM
QUESTION: are there any suggested best practices for working with third party APIs (like Twitter, 4sq) while building an app?
 
@mvark big question, could you narrow it down a little?
 
Then those types of apps should be listed as 16+
 
@mvark it's a good idea, usually, of course. Why not?
@SoftwareDeveloper That is what I think
@SoftwareDeveloper Apps with a rating over PEGI 16, ESRB MATURE, or that contain content that would warrant such a rating, are not allowed. Metadata and other content you submit to accompany your app may contain only content that would merit a rating of PEGI 12, ESRB EVERYONE, or Windows Store 12+, or lower. msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/apps/hh694083.aspx (Section 5.1)
 
QUESTION: Are there any search limits when using the Bing Maps SDK?
 
@ComFreek Is this a question about quantity or geography?
 
6:14 PM
@JerryNixon About quantity. Are they filtered by IP address?
 
@ComFreek They are filtered by developer key
@ComFreek "Only 10000 records may be mapped at one time using street address"
@ComFreek Wait, that is an old reference...
 
@mvark If you are using HTML/JS to develop your app, several thing you need to watch out: 1. try to get a local copy of your third party library so you can still access some WinRT content. 2. Understand the difference between web context (more in an iFrame) and local context 3. There are ways to make web context to access local context. For more information, check out blogs.msdn.com/b/dorischen/archive/2012/10/02/…
 
@JerryNixon i didn't know about the term "Storefront apps" ...to rephrase my earlier question ...are there any best practices for building Storefront apps - gotchas, do's and dont's
 
Storefront apps = Windows 8 Store apps? Or something else altogether?
 
@mvark So sorry to give you the run around like this. But best practices to security, to caching, to serializing, to presentation, to picking a color? You don't want to show curse words?
 
6:17 PM
@Mamta - I think he meant store apps like ebay
 
@MamtaDalal Storefront apps == app whose primary function is to aggregate and sell third party media or apps, or Streaming apps, whose primary function is to aggregate and stream web-based images, music, video or other media content
 
@mvark The question is just too open ended.
SUGGESTION: you can build an animated splash screen for your application simply by making your app add very quickly, then having the first screen to show after the standard, static splash be identical! Then you can animate your identical screen and take your time loading the rest of your app.
 
hmm...curse words..i didn't think of that.....thanks for the answers @JerryNixon @DorisChen i'm TRYING to build an app that uses third party APIs & wanted to look out for potential landmines
 
SUGGESTION: Don't change the layout of your application to make room for advertisement. Instead pick an advertisement or banner that fits nicely into the data you are already presenting. This will make your application flow better and give your user a nicer experience.
@mvark Here's a nice place to get started codepaste.net/dhpuxv this helper shows how to access the REST-based JSON data from Yahoo!
 
6:21 PM
Not really Windows 8 app question, but... I use the Bing Translator Text to Speech HTTP service in a few of my apps. They recently moved some Bing Translator services into azure, but I don't see the text to speech in there, only text translations... The old website is now disabled and I can't access new API keys or info about my current keys.
I'm worried they will disappear and my apps will stop working. msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ff512420.aspx Any idea on the fate of this service? microsofttranslator.com/dev
 
@JerryNixon one fear i have with third party APIs is what if they are killed or modified
 
@SoftwareDeveloper The future of free services is never certain
@mvark Yes, this is risk we all have to handle
 
@mvark For a mashup application like this, understand the difference between web context (iFrame) and local context is probably the most important thing. Use my previous answer as a starting point.
 
@JerryNixon i've just started off and i appreciate all the advice
 
Is the Ad SDK now completely live? Should I be seeing 0.00 eCPM still?
 
6:27 PM
I need to run for another engagement. Thanks everybody for joining us. See you next Tuesday at 10 am PST.
 
Thanks for all the info @dorischen
 
@DorisChen Thanks for your time.
 
thanks @DorisChen ... i've been reading your blog articles and found them helpful
 
Thanks @DorisChen
 
@JerryNixon When submitting apps for the apptivate.ms contest, do we have to use an "Individual" account on the app store, or can we use a "Company" account?
 
6:31 PM
thanks @DorisChen! see you next week :)
 
Participation from Win8 devs in the chat seems sparse...perhaps we need to spread the word abt forthcoming chats..looking fwd to seeing more dev interaction.
 
@JohnKoerner the Apptivate contest terms and conditions currently state that only individuals are eligible for the contest, however, I don't believe that means you can't submit to the store (not to the contest) as a company - but I will have to check on this for you
 
@SoftwareDeveloper The ad SDK is completely live. The ads being displayed on the other hand are not live until GA on the 26th.
@JohnKoerner It does not matter
@JohnKoerner You are the participant in the contest
@JohnKoerner Your Windows Store account is not queried
@JohnKoerner Many individual developers submit as a company
@MamtaDalal Great idea
 
@JerryNixon Thanks.
 
Ok, time for me to leave, it's very late at night here in India and I have to be at work early morning :(
 
6:36 PM
Okay guys, this chat is officially coming to an end. Thank you all for participating, your great questions, and the interesting conversation. We'll see you next week, same time and place. In the meantime - keep up your app dev!
 
@JerryNixon Thanks!
 
But I had a great time here, felt enlightened as well got to share my own two bits of knowledge :)
The interactions were great, keep them coming...see you all next week!
 
thanks @JerryNixon!
there will also be an event this coming Thursday at 21:00 UTC with MS developer evangelist Jeff Brand, for those of you who would like to stop by and join us
 
@jerryNixon Thanks! @Abb
@AbbyT.Miller Thanks!
 

Apptivate Chat #2 with Jerry Nixon and Doris Chen

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7:35 PM
damn I am late
 
 
1 hour later…
8:43 PM
@DanglingNeuron never fear! we'll have another chat event on Thursday at 2100 UTC
 
 
1 hour later…
9:51 PM
Same here...couldn't make it today...hope to make it Thursday. So, what time will that be in Colorado (Mountain Time)?
 
 
1 hour later…
11:00 PM
It is 5pm eastern, so I think that is 3pm mountain
 

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