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7:00 PM
@SiPlus fix in what sense?
 
@JohnHaugeland If you want to continue the WebGL discussion, you should direct it to the appropriate team. This chat ain't the place, so please drop it.
 
@JohnHaugeland Thanks for your information. This could be why it is NOT a w3c standard.
 
Doris: Nope.
 
@JohnHaugeland Where did you read that?
 
7:01 PM
I don't see a threat in WebGL, Win8 apps are checked, and it can be disabled in IE by default
 
@JerryNixon I see, what you meant... The app bar is bugging around now. Thanks anyways!
 
trufax
 
@MarvinHäuser Check out this AppBar sample blog.jerrynixon.com/2012/10/…
 
Well, thank you Doris and Jerry for coming, goodbye
 
@JerryNixon Alright, thanks.
 
7:02 PM
Jerry: Quite a few places. It's been some time. But, every time the IE team is asked why they won't implement WebGL, they give the same answer: the spec is too close to the drivers, and a badly written driver could be attacked through things like stack smashing. the drivers have too much mapping access, so it's an unacceptable threat to process memory control.
Jerry: it's an attack that has happened in the real world; it's not a theoretical attack.
 
thanks for joining us @JerryNixon and @Doris!
 
@AbbyT.Miller Thanks.
 
@JohnHaugeland I don't think that Chrome is the most secure browser.
 
@JerryNixon Oh, I see my problem. Sorry, it's my fault ;)
 
7:03 PM
@JohnHaugeland They enable everything.
 
Jerry: Okay?
I don't really have the knowledge to speak to a topic like that.
 
@JerryNixon I agree but Chrome is the most developer-friendly in my opinion.
 
And I actually think it's a very serious problem to play the security speculation game.
 
@ComFreek Only user-friendly matters
 
developer-friendly = newest feature proposals
Yes, you're right
 
7:04 PM
@ComFreek I use Chrome, of course. It's super fast. I use IE, too. Funny, but I don't even install FireFox anymore. That sort of faded away.
 
But that technet article above is an IE core team member describing why IE core team's position has been, for eight years, that WebGL is unacceptably insecure
MSRC thinks this, Khronos thinks this, Schneier and Ptacek agree, blah blah blah.
 
@JerryNixon Me, too because I find WebGL very interesting.
 
It's why voting machines have old video gards.
c*
And so I kind of want people to stop promising WebGL, because they're making plans on that basis, and when it becomes a standard, which will be relatively soon, those plans are going to blow up in people's faces.
IE will never implement WebGL1 or 2
 
Everyone
This chat is ending
Time is up
Thanks for coming
 
Thanks for answering @JerryNixon @DorisChen
 
7:07 PM
Jerry: please pretend ten thousand people asked you about subscriptions :)
Jerry: thanks for the good news
 
If you have a specific question you can always email me jnixon@microsoft.com and I will do what I can to help. Remember I am a XAML guy. Not JS.
@JohnHaugeland John, please try not to pretend that 10k people asked you to have a subscription to your app!
 
but but but
but i waaaaaaaanaaaaaaaaaaa
i barely have that many installs, total
 

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7:29 PM
@JerryNixon I have another one regarding the Live SDK. If I build in a SkyDrive sync features, that keeps bigger files in sync, I would do it by checking date/time to decide which should be replaced, either the local or the cloud copy. What would you suggest me to do, when a file gets deleted? I can't check the time that file got deleted as I think and I want to avoid the app to download the cloud copy of a file deleted locally. Thank you again!
 
i thnk he left half an hour ago
but he gave his email
 
Nice silence here now lol
Well, I'm out now, too. See you!
 
7:45 PM
@PolCPP When do I get to play Twisted Potions
 
8:14 PM
@JohnHaugeland not sure i'm "pretty close" to finish the core functionality. After that i just need to build the puzzles
 
You got three weeks, bub. Hurry.
 
want to publish it by the 25th or so. With a more simple web demo at the same time
 
Toss me an email at john@longhairsoftware.com . I have an idea for you that shouldn't be made visible.
 
Okies
 
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