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12:00 AM
I remember that @KendallFrey I was going to use it!
 
*you thought you were
 
12:11 AM
so, this technically is a correct 3d persectived rapresentation of something, right? XD codepen.io/towc/pen/KdPjzB?editors=001
this is literally the only code that allows me to make it render in 3d:
scale = fl / ( fl + z ),
sx = vp.x + x * scale,
sy = vp.y + y * scale,
ss = s * scale;
fl = focal length;
vp = vanish point;
s = size of the points
x,y,z are of course corresponding to the point's
 
looks about right
now make the camera orbit :D
 
@KendallFrey pfft, easy enough
 
yeah, with matrices
 
just working on making a bounding box wireframe
 
oh damn, I forgot
 
12:17 AM
@KendallFrey even without ;)
 
I have a JS library that does matrix transforms for you
 
thing is, matrices are very elegant, but I'm not when it comes to learning
 
@towc how do you plan to do it without? I don't see an obvious easy way
 
@KendallFrey rotate every point's position
 
^ I was gonna say, I'd love to see an "easy" way without matrices
so just horizontal rotation?
 
user4013295
12:22 AM
Hello everyone!
 
user4013295
I been trying to compile my javascript file but the closure compiler keeps removing some needed code
 
user4013295
What are the sort of steps you guys would take to find out what's missisng?
 
hmm, perhaps the compiler thinks you aren't using it?
 
source maps and a debugger
 
user4013295
Source maps! Ill look for that
 
12:24 AM
Read the docs
 
user4013295
I did ; - ;
 
Read them again then.
Learn them,
 
user4013295
I already added all the necessary jsdoc comments
 
@copy My side of things should be up for good now
 
Become them
 
12:24 AM
Or turn off advanced optimizations
@SomeKittens Cool
 
user4013295
No i need since this is for my js13k entry
 
user4013295
It was compiling fine before until I added much more code
 
@SomeKittens Can I make feature requests?
 
@copy Yeah
 
I'm interested in last 24 hours, 1 hour, 15 minutes -> requests per second per type
 
12:27 AM
Fits right in with my plans
 
And another interesting information is hostname
 
are you passing that to me right now?
 
Nope, you can get that using reverse dns
I could also send it though
 
how's that different than regular DNS?
 
It find a hostname given an ip
 
12:29 AM
...derp
wow
I'm not all there today
 
:-P
 
I think I'll take a walk and clear my head, I'll try and figure something out when I get back.
 
12:44 AM
I head a bus is really good at clearing your head.... from your neck.
 
I also head a bus
 
2 tru
 
tru 2
 
tru pac
 
3 pac
 
12:52 AM
4 pac
 
5 pac rock
 
9 gag
 
8gag
 
ur mum gags
 
ew
 
12:55 AM
should I be concerned when these kind of answers start to show up accepted? stackoverflow.com/a/32291702/2495283
 
we
 
Nick …
 
@Claies This is why I don't answer questions anymore
 
@Claies yes because the answerer is a brony
wait I've seen this guy in here before
he's near me
 
I'm not sure what that means, exactly
 
12:56 AM
maybe you should date him
 
you don't know what bronies are?
 
take him to a nice walk on the beach
and drown him
 
@Nick it would never work :(
hey, santa cruz beach is nice
 
oh lol nevermind I just saw that
 
user4013295
@KendallFrey Thanks a lot! Source maps have really helped me so far :D
 
12:57 AM
lol don't mind me
I'm here for a good time, not a long time /cc @copy
@Nick actually I've been meaning to ask about that
you are still at 1010 rep
oh, 1009 now
 
now I'm down one because I downvoted his answer
 
ahaha do you spend all your rep on downvotes?
 
for every question I read about Angular.js that is well thought out and has a good answer, there are 20 that are just a complete mess. I really don't envy anyone having to troubleshoot any of these websites dumped on people a year from now....
 
I feel like you've been at 1k for like the past 6 months
 
I do spend a good chunk of my rep on downvotes... because there are so many fucking terrible answers on this site
 
1:00 AM
html5 dragon drop tutorial
 
I used to be at like 1.4k, but I gave a good couple hundred to @SterlingArcher
 
> html5 dragon drop tutorial
 
and then I lost a lot from downvotes
 
@ʞɔᴉN I'm here for a good time
 
where is the dragon?
 
1:00 AM
In your pants
 
Damn, now I want underwear that says "here be dragons"
 
I like dragons in men's underwears.
 
oh man..
@Nick rip
 
not downvotes on me
downvotes to other people
 
@copy, have you worked with three.js?
 
1:04 AM
@ʞɔᴉN Didn't know that anyone was paying attention. I'm in the js room now!
 
@ʞɔᴉN A little
 
@MaximillianLaumeister you should just remove your answer...
shame on you and your family
 
I can't, it's been accepted
:S
 
I don't think you can remove an accepted answer :/
 
@MaximillianLaumeister all I remember is you're the one person on this site from santa cruz
@Nick classic
@copy have you done any cross-browser work with it?
for whatever reason, alpha blending does not appear to be working in FF
works fine in chrome though
 
1:06 AM
what's the Stackoverfloooooow topic about on the main site ? Anything I miss ? :P
 
it's really a minefield trying to answer Angular.js questions anyway; there are 10 bajilion people using it who all just learned JavaScript two weeks ago.
 
@ʞɔᴉN I wouldn't have posted it if I had done any research on the with statement beforehand (I guess there is a reason I had never heard of it)
 
user4013295
@MaximillianLaumeister Hi fellow brony! /)
 
@jAndy 10million questions
 
@jAndy it's because the site just recently hit 10 million questions
 
1:07 AM
ah right
 
Hi @TheMuffinCoder!
 
user4013295
:D
 
@ʞɔᴉN Nope
 
user4013295
:P lol i named myself themuffincoder because of Derpy hooves
 
@TheMuffinCoder You might enjoy this site I made once! feedderpy.com
 
user4013295
1:08 AM
@MaximillianLaumeister I love it already!
 
user4013295
bookmarks
 
ahahaha
 
user4013295
@MaximillianLaumeister D; there's no dogecoin donation button
 
@TheMuffinCoder I made the site before dogecoin was a thing!
 
user4013295
Oh i see :P
 
1:10 AM
@MaximillianLaumeister anyone ever donated?
 
I'm starting to feel the pain of poorly designed websites all over the place now; people using "async" calls (especially with how easy it is in angular) to improve the performance of the website, only to leave you sitting staring at a "responsive" spinner or an article that you are reading that suddenly gets pushed out of view because some data above it gets loaded in....
 
@SomeKittens Like, a tiny little bit in Bitcoin, none by paypal tho blockexplorer.com/address/1derpMLE7Eh26LTFEA3epp1eAgMUcYj7j
@SomeKittens That's like $1 worth of Bitcoin today
 
I like how the address starts with 1derp
 
Thanks, I used to have some fun with Vanitygen :)
So I guess now that I'm an official member of the ball pit (I've even been properly hazed by Nick!), I might be able to ask a question that's been nagging me for a while now. @ʞɔᴉN are you like the polar opposite / evil twin / upside down version of @Nick? Or do you live in Australia (but we've established you're in the bay area), or...?
 
I'm like the good Nick
the cool nick
 
1:22 AM
Bay Area bros o/
 
^
 
I'm in the not so cool Bay (Tampa Bay)
 
Also @Nick I formally apologize for my answer. I didn't realize with was so bad at the time, and it got accepted by the time I did more research and figured out how bad it was.
 
if @Nick is mean it's because he's stuck in a blizzard somewhere and he's not out here with us
 
@MaximillianLaumeister and yes, as I was trying to say in my comment, I didn't think the attempt you made was bad (more information is always better), but it being accepted is what I didn't care for that much....
couldn't be any worse than wading into this one though.... stackoverflow.com/questions/32289536/…
 
1:29 AM
Learn2ng, n00bs
at least it's well-asked
 
I couldn't find anywhere to even start explaining to that one how off they are; sad thing is I've seen production code that looked simillar
 
I haven't worked with any prod code that was that bad, but I've seen it
Friend of mine (backend engineer) showed me their frontend
tl;dr "Angular" meant "jQuery plugins"
 
there was a question last month (deleted pretty quickly), that, no lie, said they didn't understand why people referred to "{{" as Angular, since they are really more Curly
 
gotta be a troll
 
probably
sometimes I think people just upvote questions because they see code or more than 3 lines in them, before they even actually read what the question is asking.
 
1:37 AM
curly.js
@Claies sometimes I think people are too quick on the downvotes too
 
@Claies It also helps if your answer is written using good english
 
I really rarely down vote, most times I try to add a comment explaining why I think others might downvote
sometimes, people will actually fix their question; most of the time, however, they try to argue with me about my understanding of their issue.
 
I don't usually downvote either, and I particularly don't downvote new users. I usually like to point them in the right direction in the comments and then CV and move on
 
the ones I love are the ones that ask for explanations of downvotes, or ask people to remove the downvote since they updated their question. 90% of the time, people aren't going back to look at old questions they downvoted to see if they have been improved....
 
It can be harrowing being a new user, getting downvoted and not knowing why
I think way too many people use only downvotes when they should also leave a comment to the obviously new user
 
1:42 AM
sad thing is, I'm at near 10k reputation on the site and I've yet to actually post a question of my own :/
 
Unless it's obvious that it is incomplete or doesn't belong, even without knowledge of SO policies
@Claies I beg to differ, it's a lot more sad to me when a user has like 800 questions and 2 answers, and has about as much rep as you
You're contributing usable solutions, and that's a keystone part of Stack Overflow
 
good canonical questions are every least bit as good as good answers
 
yeah, maybe, but I still wonder sometimes
 
not that someone with a 400:1 ratio probably has nothing but those
 
Good canonical questions seem like they're harder and harder to find nowadays
 
1:45 AM
which makes sense
 
getting to the point where I've almost been wanting to actually make a few self answered canonical questions to point all the duplicates I mark every day toward
 
If they're good quality questions and answers, I don't see any reason not to
@Claies Just don't be that guy that marks questions as duplicates of "Complete and utter nonsense" meta.stackexchange.com/questions/231697/…
 
lol haven't seen that one before
 
Morning guys I have a question :)
 
1:49 AM
if(key == "save_purchases"){
	if(this.supplier.val() == ""){
		this.supplier.popover('show');
		this.supplier.focus();
		return false;
	}
}
 
it's almost 10pm here but that doesn't mean we won't have an answer
 
This statement is executed on click event
But the problem is if the condition does not fulfill then I want to remove that remove false
I mean that code is preventing my code to be executed again if it returns false at least one time
In other words, If a condition does not met then do nothing and show the error that is return false but if a condition is met then do what I want to do
Any help ? :P
 
what is the signature of the calling function?
 
The code you posted looks fine to me, fwiw. Returning false should only prevent default browser behavior for that one click, not for all subsequent clicks.
 
1:53 AM
@MaximillianLaumeister But that doesn't happen
Any idea why ?
 
is that the only place in the function that you are returning false?
 
@Claies Yes
 
but after you return false, you can never click again?
 
NO MORE CLICKING
 
I'm returning false on an anchor dag
Is that can be a issue ?
 
1:56 AM
VS Code added support for babel in the editor :O
always said I would switch if they supported ES6
 
@Claies Yes if it return false one time then it never clicks again
 
I wonder, without knowing a lot about bootstrap popovers, is there any way that this.supplier.popover('show'); or this.supplier.focus(); could cause this.supplier.val() to become falsey?
Then it would always go into the if statement, and it would always return false.
 
I think we need to see more of the function (and what the action calling it looks like) to understand what else might be going on. I mean, right now, if this.supplier.val() !="", nothing happens (in the code you posted, at least).
have you posted a question on the site for your issue yet?
 
Enlighten me something about which dragon drop events bubble.
 
2:09 AM
what's that
 
that's a dropped dragon
 
draggon dropped?
 
example of dragon drop in action
remember: dragon drop only works with dragons that do not implement the "wings" interface
 
the correct term is "drag and drop", not "dragon drop"
it's one of those sound alike things in English that people seem to find funny
 
I also find it funny.
The short form DnD
 
2:14 AM
@MaximillianLaumeister you can still drop a dragon that has the wings interface, but they might override the fall
 
That's a lovely dragon.
 
@Claies Dropping a winged dragon may result in demon nostrils
 
I know dragenter and dragleave events bubble. How about dragover and drop?
Is it the fact that dragon is a terrible animal in western culture?
 
jsfiddle.com <- try it and tell us what happened!
 
In China, dragon is a noble animal.
I haven't encountered any specific problems for the time being
 
2:24 AM
@SomeKittens jsfiddle.net?
 
...oops
 
I hate the Great Firewall of China.
What's the difference between abhor and hate?
 
!!define abhor
 
@SomeKittens abhor (transitive) To regard with horror or detestation; to shrink back with shuddering from; to feel excessive repugnance toward; to detest to extremity; to loathe. [First attested from around (1350 to 1470).]
 
Abhor and hate mean roughly the same thing to me, except that abhor is used less often so it's a more powerful word imo, and it also comes with a connotation of disgust
 
@SomeKittens They sing really well
 
Someone should write a script to update all the "I'm new to angular" statements in questions with "I'm totally clueless and if I tell you I'm new maybe you'll feel sorry for me".
 
I just can't resist the heart beating when I see hot guys
 
I'm not sure the people in that bus are laughing quite as hard as the bus is....
 
So what button do you have to press to get the bus to do that?
 
2:57 AM
s/new to angular/incapable of reading tutorials/
 
Also, took me way too long to notice the eyes on the bus to the left
 
that's driving with two feet, holding one foot on the brake an one on the gas
 
The fact is the people are annoyed to the extend of how happy the bus is.
 
I have to calculate a running average for an arbitrary number of events
this shouldn't be hard
let's do this!
 
user406009
@SomeKittens You just need the total and the count.
 
2:58 AM
@Lalaland Ah, thank you, I never would have guessed
if it weren't for you, I would have spent all night trying to figure out what the + operator did
 
user406009
The only possible issue is overflow. If this is going to be running for a long period of time.
 
now I can finally free my family from the evil buffalonian overlord that's been keeping them all these years!
 
that dismount needs some work
 
user406009
@SomeKittens Yourself?
 
@Claies otherwise it was pretty good
 
3:00 AM
@Lalaland weaksauce, man
fight fire with fire, not ham pudding
@Claies Love the URL, ensure you're at the top of every web directory
 
lol
that domain has been down for a long time, I almost forgot I still had it on my profile
 
now that's SEO!
 
I really don't even do security work anymore
been trying (unsuccessfully) to write a mobile app for my business partner's industry.
 
eh, good luck
just got into security work myself
 
I suck at UI design
 
3:07 AM
booooootstraaaaaaap
 
I'm one of those people that can still make a bootstrap site look like it was written by a 5 year old
 
user406009
@SomeKittens No custom cursor. Lame
 
user406009
-1/10
 
I can still remember when those were the "cool" sites
Sometimes I wonder; what would be the point of using Angular-Meteor, React-Meteor, and ngReact all in the same project? can we not just pick one framework here?
 
user406009
3:18 AM
Angular provides more things than just rendering. For instance, it also provides module loading.
 
user406009
If you already have a bunch of stuff written in Angular, sometimes it's easier to just use it with React.
 
user406009
Haven't really used Meteor, but there are probably similar arguments for that as well.
 
yes, I understand, but using all 3 in the same project
that project has a severe identity crisis
 
user406009
Also, you usually have to use React with something else. React just provides rendering. That's it.
 
@Claies ugh, that sounds just wonderful /s
 
user406009
3:22 AM
@Claies I do agree with you that it is often cleaner to just use one.
 
@Lalaland Just had a thought - can you change your avatar to this? pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/424433957409525760/hEdPUiMW.jpeg
 
user406009
The last time I had to use both Angular and React together, I was porting an Angular app to React.
 
user406009
Then I was finally able to strip Angular out.
 
I personally prefer Angular syntax to React, but I just wish more people would use the ControllerAs syntax; $scope is a virus
 
@Claies AMEN BROTHA
 
3:26 AM
although, everyController as ctrl isn't exactly better
 
I usually do myController as MC
I don't like John Papa's vm
and just start off the controller itself with var MC = this;
 
vm or ctrl gets really nasty when you start nesting controllers
 
Exactly - the whole point is to know what controller it came from
 
user406009
@Claies For interests sake, why don't you like React's syntax? Are you not a fan of syntax transforms like JSX?
 
react feels too much to me like you are mixing HTML and JavaScript; for the most part, I can give an angular snippet with expressions to a UI designer and they can work out what's going on, but not so much with react
but then, I might not have given react enough due diligence, just haven't made a point of working with it deeply
 
user406009
3:30 AM
The counterargument is that Angular's template syntax is itself almost a programming language. But I see your point.
 
user406009
React does have some other issues though.
 
I read an article recently where a guy refactored his code to "eliminate ng-controller" completely from his angular, replacing it with a directive whenever possible
 
@Claies Yeah, that's made the rounds
 
he ended up with an HTML document that was nothing but 3-4 directives with templates, and many of those contained directives with more templates.... I'm not sure he really made things any better lol
 
HEAVY overuse of directives
proloser (who founded the Angular-UI project) is of the opinion the the only good directive is one you can open source
I lean more that way - directives should be reuseable
 
3:33 AM
you know you are in too deep when you have a directive with a template that's <div>{{myContent}}</div> lol
 
myDivDirective
bonus points for a replace: true
 
double bonus for copious use of transclude
 
fat arrow maintaining this, awwwww yiiiiiisss
 
I always love the "I know this feature is depreciated, but I really can't think of a better way to do this" questions that come up around replace: true.
 
Old job, every. single. directive. was replace: true
 
user406009
3:43 AM
What's wrong with transclude? It seems like a decent idea when you want to wrap other content.
 
Nothing's wrong with transclude, it's just incredibly complicated
 
opera seems to be like chrome
 
Well, they do use Blink (same rendering engine)
 
user406009
I remember reading an article that Opera gave up on their rendering engine.
 
4:02 AM
@copy up yer aggro!
 
@SomeKittens Huh? You want more traffic?
 
Yeah, getting nothing currently
working on that requests/sec code
 
Hmm, what could I add
 
a corncob pipe and 2 eyes made of coal
 
Unfortunately my new system is more stable but harder to deploy to
 
4:13 AM
DNS, ssh, rdp, vnc, epmap, mssql are hot
 
Awesome
 
wanna compare nose sizes?
 
Unfortunately udp-based ones are often just a variation of that ddos
 
user406009
One cool idea might be to try to detect which exploit they are trying to use.
 
hmm, still not getting anything
 
user406009
4:17 AM
Like I am interested if people are still trying to exploit shellshock type vulnerabilities.
 
@SomeKittens I have to implement them first
 
oh, sorry. Misunderstood
 
@Lalaland Yep, that's a goal
 
4:33 AM
aaand all the math is wrong.
(ノಠдಠ)ノ︵┻━┻
 
@copy You're DDoS'ing Skittles?
 
ugh...torn on a project I am working on...
screw it
 
@SomeGuy And Skittles?
 
Skittles = SomeKittens
 
I'm hosting with an Atom processor, so DoS === a single GET request
 
4:44 AM
No, I'm catching ddoses and Skittles is analysing them
 
yeah, proper math!
 
Catching them where?
 
O(n * numEventTypes) every second!
 
On random servers that I control
 
How do you catch them?
 
4:45 AM
By running a "vulnerable" service that can be used for that attack
 
So you're running a honeypot, basically?
 
Yeah
 
That's pretty cool. I have no idea how they actually work :P
UDP-based amplification sounds cool!
 
I'm reducing the number of pages I have
 
@copy You've seen lab.pentestit.ru/pentestlabs/3 I assume?
 
4:52 AM
@SomeGuy Haven't seen that, but this is more defense intel than exploit hacking
 
@SomeGuy Note, is it a challenge?
 
@SomeKittens Yeah, got that
@copy Yep!
 
@SomeGuy Ideally, I'd like to do something like this
And by "Ideally" I mean "It's next to do at work after I finish up some Angular stuff"
 
Hah, seems like those are all the rage lab.pentestit.ru/map
What do you do there?
 
Whatever I can get my hands on, but mostly Angular
a lot of the stuff I'm doing for this thing with Copy is relevant to the next few months @ work
 
4:57 AM
And I find it a cool project
 
^^^ That too
 
Does sound pretty cool
 
I'd be doing this even if it didn't have parallels at work
I'm manipulating .innerHTML
and no one can stop me!
@copy 15 minute window requests/sec is up
 
Cool
I'm off now
 
5:15 AM
as mentioned before, it's computationally expensive, so hour/day will be a bit
 
5:58 AM
Hey guys! Quick question, I'm making a backend
and it's sending 1 json object at a time to the client
how does the client receive the stream of data?
 
some sort of abstraction over a socket connection to take a stream?
 
6:47 AM
@OneRaynyDay If you're just concatenating them into one giant stream of characters... good luck separating them again.
 

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