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4:00 PM
not that I want to
but it looks quite complicated
 
lol :D
for a second there I believed you
'cause you know JW could pull it off in his lunch break
 
Then you saw the all to familiar ?troll=true and then you knew what was up
Yea, the first half of his break
 
Hi, quick question, what is a book you would recommend for android?
I'm currently oriented on this: Learn Java for Android Development
 
The one from commons ware is good
Or a bit older, but this
From Reto Meier
 
4:11 PM
reading
thanks, I'll buy this then
 
:)
 
looks like the guy knows a thing or two about android
 
heh yeah lol
 
got it for 30€ new
thanks!
 
you're welcome :)
 
4:25 PM
Reto Meier have also video courses : udacity.com/course/ud853
 
o/
I actually bought that book because it says "Professional" on it
 
\o
 
and I wanted to feel like a pro when I was a still a noob
 
oh right, follow the link Abdellah posted
 
o/
 
4:28 PM
@TheMexican "when"?
 
That PSA sounds like it means you SHOULD flag those words.
I had to read that a couple times.
 
you know cM, you still a noob
 
o/ Emm
 
hey Carl!
 
I feel like it fighting with this damn BT code again
 
4:31 PM
So I've been using IntelliJ recently, and now I'm wondering if there is actually any good reason to use AS instead?
AS basically seems like IntelliJ with bugs added.
4
 
@Ahmad Lol
 
4:47 PM
WTF! I thought Carl was the one who was supposed to get these stupid errors
 
if I generate a keystore with the exact same information I put the same time, does it generate the same key? I kinda lost my keystore but I remember exactly what I typed when I generated it...
 
HA HA! </nelson>
that's what happens when you run code on broken hardware :D
 
It's only doing it on KitKat
 
see? broken hardware
 
Apparently
And when I run it on my phone it gives the error at the line before it does on the Tab 4
How in the hell can that be???
 
5:00 PM
could spinner take?
 
I was going to try and clean it up to make it more comprehensible...
But I just got more confused
 
do you guys use apply or commit on shared prefs
 
I'm back, after 3 hours without power
 
o/
 
commit
 
5:18 PM
Working with Picasso after loading Image form businessbook.pro/imagesBase/profils/11.jpeg, ImageView.getDrawable() = null @_@
else it work for some images businessbook.pro/imagesBase/profils/49.jpeg
 
@JMRboosties apply is faster but I usually end up using commit
 
LoL when i load my ImageView from ListView 11.jpeg work ! but when i load it after clicking in a view on the map doesn't work
OMG
 
Pyro!
 
@Ahmad apply is asynchronous which is why i hesitate to use it
commit is plenty fast anyway
i just dont want to get out of sync
 
yeah, it's not like I had any issues with it
Ah yes, it's asynchronous
that was it
 
5:32 PM
android studio gives a warning if you use commit
 
oh, I didn't notice
 
i m using it to push my project into bitbucket git but doesn't push all my files
Bey All the shit ImageView.getDrawable still null !
 
Abdellah, use git add .
 
5:49 PM
Psssst.....look at the URL — Jay Blanchard 3 mins ago
Ha!
 
I feel so dumb that I just discovered the attach debugger button
if I wanted to debug I would always re-run using the debug button
 
attach debugger button?
where?!
 
right next to the debug button :)
"Attach debugger to Android process"
and then just select your process
 
omg.
all this time
 
mind = blown, right?
 
5:53 PM
exactly!
thanks! :D
 
So one of our new interns is having trouble with Studio setup. I do hope we don't end up in the same issue you had trevor. :(
 
@ram rejected, please answer some question and request access again
 
what's the issue?
also I think you asked me a couple days ago if I decided on a conference
I'm probably going to London
 
rofl @ Ahmad
 
Carl, get off of the floor and get back to work!
 
6:00 PM
^
 
lol
 
so.. no iOS beta 6 today :/
"who cares?", says the Room
 
actually recently switched from iOS to android :D...and as a dev I'd say this is an amazing difference, loads of apis, no more messing with apns keys
 
they are really different... but both have their pros and cons
 
imo jailbroken iOS > rooted + xposed android
still waiting for a consumer release of L to get a good comparison with iOS 7/8
 
6:09 PM
today I think that both systems (stock) are equally, perhaps android became even better
but when you compare AppStore vs Play Store... looks unfair
 
well you could argue that the reason devs choose the appstore over the play store is because they know they'll get more revenue
tbh, the first thing I think when I think of android play store is unknown sources*
 
not only that... but because PlayStore is so "open" and non-regulated, the amount of crappy, unsafe, useless, and other kinds of undesirable apps is huge
 
haha yeah and you don't see the same things with the app store? minus the unsafe of course (because ipa files can't do shi---) I like the amount of variety though seen in the play store, and if that means I need to see a lot of bad ones I'll take it
 
you see crappy apps as well, but apple tends to reprove the great majority of them
 
I just feel that's not really a bad thing for the play store, both markets have bad apps and we as users just don't use them. Just because a store has less bad apps, doesn't mean they have more good ones.
 
6:20 PM
I agree
The "best", most used apps will always be available on both platforms, but in the past, there were a larger number of good apps exclusively on iOS. But I believe that this number is tending to a ballance
and in the end, when that good app start to get used a lot, it will be ported to the other plaftorm anyway
 
^ yep, and I've noticed most android apps are free, but they have ads (and like $3 to remove ads)...where as most iOS apps are $0.99
 
I understand and I'm ok with in-app purchases to remove ads, but I hate those freemium apps that you need to pay to do very basic stuff
 
that's probably the only way devs can make money since I bet a lot of pillaging happens
speaking of devs, the uploading process for play store is too easy
 
hmm
for my next trick
ah no that wont work
ive got 2 tables with different but similar structures
which can be extracted into a single object type
and i need to sort these bad boys alphabetically
 
Dave, devs could charge from the beginning. I'd know instantly when I saw that I'd need to pay for it
 
6:30 PM
@JMRboosties okay you're going to want to use reflection, getClass().getDeclaredFields()
 
want use reflection
pick 2
 
@Guilherme like an in-app popup right in the beginning of launch? that would kill the users... I think most apps append a - Trial or - Lite -- that allows you to upgrade without downloading a new app
 
oh this one be so bad
i forgot about glorious collections.sort
 
kill the user... but they got their 1+ download count
 
@JMRboosties oh sorry I though you said two classes
 
6:33 PM
I'm not mad at all of them, just those that are almost useless without an IAP
 
oh yeah like this so useless, doesn't allow you to turn the brightness further which just acts as a crappy brightness widget
 
yea this is easy bueno
 
@Guilherme I recently made an application -- teehee ... :P play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.kemine.smstracker
 
cool! is it useless?
jk
 
haha no IAPs :) didn't look up the docs for that yet
 
6:39 PM
wow, how can you lookup one's position via sms?
 
I'm assuming with known wifi spots/cell towers?
 
would be cool if you had a screenshot of what it reports for their "location"
 
Network triangulation when receiving an SMS from an approved contact, I'd guess
 
This app is incompatible with all of your devices. :(
 
6:40 PM
@CarlAnderson okay I'll do that right now actually
 
is it a GPS coordinate? Is it a map? Is it a place name?
 
@Guilherme sorry I'm stupid, I bought the newest phone running API level 20
 
No Dave. THe fact is that I have no devices :P
 
@CarlAnderson opens a new intent geo:coords, which might be google maps depending on your default maps application
 
you can just type "Carl", no need to ping me ;-)
 
6:42 PM
sorry got used to pressing the button on the right ->
 
Oh, I got the idea now. you send a "hidden" sms just to localize the person, is that it?
 
see? this is why we need autocomplete for names without an @
 
type @, type part of the name, autocomplete, erase the @
 
there is still no response to your request about that on meta, right carl?
 
@Guilherme can I ping myself? -- nope, I can't
 
6:43 PM
which one Ahmad?
 
yeah that's how I usually do it gui
 
moving the maps API question?
 
for the autocomplete
 
yeah, no reply
 
oh shiiittt
I just remembered
your q
on SO
 
6:44 PM
 
Can't you leave the "@" and just not complete the whole name?
@Ah
 
this is what a ping / response looks like
 
:D
 
I completely forgot to look at the code :[
 
8
Q: Can we get username auto-complete without a ping?

Carl AndersonI'm frequently in the Android chatroom. Part of our rules (based on many people's preferences) is that excessive use of @User pings is forbidden/discouraged. It would be nice if there was an alternate notation I could use instead to auto-complete a user's name (or just hitting tab to trigger the ...

yeah you did, slacker
it's ok, I'm only holding a grudge forever now.
 
6:46 PM
I deserve it lol
no worries, ahmad is on the case!
 
@TheMexican never reviewed my code either, he's a slacker too.
 
the case has been rolled up (again)
 
oh sh... I can't see anymore
 
because of the lasering?
 
yes
you said that lasers were bad :(
 
6:47 PM
how are you reading this then?
braille console?
 
completely out of focus
 
yes yes, you should have listened
one eye or both?
 
Someone could start a bounty on that question but not sure if it will do much good :|
 
both
 
oh man
that sucks :(
 
6:48 PM
one eye is 2 weeks old, the other 1
 
but I think it'll take its time
 
yeah chat notifications have always pissed everyone off, meta.stackexchange.com/questions/189799/…
 
what did the doc say about how long it'll take to recover?
 
the older one looks good when I wake up, but it defocus during the day
the doc is an idiot and didn't say anything
he just throws my questions to his assistents
 
:/
 
6:50 PM
still, that's a famous clinic, and I paid "extra" for my safety
 
this song is really good
 
I preferred to have my eyes working rather than a nice doctor that could destroy them
 
Don't be pessimistic!
Give it a week or two
I'm sure it'll get better :)
@CarlAnderson Oh man I live the glitch mob
 
yeah they're good
 
listened to everything there was from them on spotify the last few weeks
 
6:59 PM
are you familiar with Ronald Jenkees?
 
no I don't think so
 
I will get better, for sure. I just wanted it to be faster :/
 
Guil, do naps help after you lose focus?
 
oh man this is just the tune I was looking for.
You're my music-man now carl
:D
 
:D
I like to think that I have good taste in electronic music.
 
7:02 PM
I have a good taste too
I don't listen to it
/me awaits for rage comments
 
no rage, just ignore. :D
 
ah.. that's not funny then
what happened to the flaming wars?
 
ran out of gasoline
 
use alcohol
solar power
gotta think green!
what do you call a situation like this:
the employee has a report to finish; the boss ask him if he is done;
the boss is ______ing the employee for/about the report
 
nagging
 
7:12 PM
hahah really?
nagging is the same as bothering, isn't it?
 
Yes
"asking"
 
so this time I am the one who's asking my bosses if they did stuff so I can continue my work
 
So I downloaded RubyMine today. It's so good.
My previous method of fixing bugs in our Rails app was "search in Finder" and "edit in Xcode" and it was a huge headache.
Now I get a full IDE with the same keybindings as Studio.
Happy happy.
 
wow, you're the 1st one I see to use Xcode for anything other than (Obj)C(++)
 
Jetbrains for life <3
Jetbrains has everything
an Android/java, iOS, php, python, ruby and what not IDE
those guys: amazing
 
7:28 PM
iOS?
 
ugh, set result isnt working for me here
 
I've gotta try it
 
Yeah AppCode
I heard it's amazing
 
I was only using Xcode cos it was automatically opening when I double clicked an .rb file
 
ah, it's paid though :/
lol Adam
link it to Atom/Sublime at least
AppCode is free for students!
 
7:30 PM
^
Sublime, preferably
 
Let's see if my .edu email still works
 
lol
 
I've been using Sublime lately, it's quite a lot nicer than Atom.
 
Related, for students: Github is free for students!
I'm applying for a free account soon
you get 5 free private repos if you can send them your student pass
 
free? like with private repos?
FO EVA?
 
7:31 PM
Ooh. AppCode looks interesting.
 
yup
 
OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG
 
I pay my $7/month or whatever it is for my 5 private repos I never use.
 
my US student ID is valid until 2018
 
:D
 
7:32 PM
why on earth does this not work, wtf man
 
setResult?
are you getting a crash?
 
it just does nothing
 
adam: $7/month? :0
 
as in
i set result
then on onactivityresult
in the activity behind in the stack
it just thinks its 0
 
do you by chance have fragments in that activity?
 
7:34 PM
oh...
i know why fuck me
i go like
activity -> activity which finishes -> activity i set on result in
got it
 
> Thank you for taking the time to submit your membership form. The AppCode review board will evaluate your request over the next few days.
> The Classroom License isn't for one student only - it provides an unlimited license key for your whole class, in fact, it allows every student and professor at your learning institution to use AppCode for free!
:(
 
:/
is there no community version?
 
can I pretend to be a professor?
there's an OpenSource license
 
omg I can apply for the open source license
 
then share it with me, ok?
 
7:44 PM
If you want to, sure
Will take a while until I'm taking up this open source iOS project though
A student from china built the initial release
 
always china...
 
will meet up with him next year (in italy or switzerland probably)
lol
 
meat?
 
Ahmad: Yup, $7/month for micro github.com/pricing
 
I'd like to see a chinese speaking italian... should be soooooo funny
 
7:45 PM
Also, Ahmad, is it you that keeps sending me wavey-hands on Emojli?
 
No lol
I don't have emojili (yet)
You could buy a VPN and and host gitlabs on it
 
There's someone with a pokey-tongue face emoticon with a German flag who's been sending me wavey hands a few times.
 
will be much cheaper
 
I figured it'd be you since you know my name is the pokey tongue face.
 
LOL adam
 
7:47 PM
I just use Bitbucket for my private repos and Github for my open projects
 
While I could do that, I also don't mind paying for the ability to "not have to think about it" :D
 
true
 
Ahmad, is that Github deal guaranteed or do I need to write a good story?
 
I'm not sure
I heard it's a done deal
but I have to try myself as well
need a new student ID
since mine expired
btw, if anybody wants to check out gitlabs: about.gitlab.com
it's amazing
@MrEngineer13 hmm or that
Don't know why I never think of bitbucket
I even have an account there
 
is gitlab better than github?
 
7:50 PM
@NSouth rejected for low A:Q ration
 
Ahmad:

> You should be getting an email from us within a week.
Have an Octotastic day!
 
There's probably a more polite way to put that...
 
how do I quote part of my text here?
 
You can't
you have to write the quote in one message
> You should be getting an email from us within a week.
Have an Octotastic day!
oh no you mean, line breaks?
 
that does suck
 
7:53 PM
@BlackWhite same. And yes it is sad
in Java, 5 hours ago, by Black White
Android room need a talk privileges how sad :)
 
lol
 
I mean in a single chat message. like don't quote this line <break>
> but quote this one
 
Also, good documentation to start would be The Official Android Docs
Why are you trying to quite things
That's your first problem
 
lol. I said I can't see
 
This just happened. The director of operations came in here and said he was going to fix the Bluetooth problem so he looked at the code...
 
7:57 PM
the chat should have the same syntax as SO
 
He said the problem was that I need to remove try and tell it to work instead of trying
4
 
LOOOOOL
 
So that was funny
 
did he mean it?
 

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