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12:03 AM
Matt
 
12:20 AM
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Ugh keyboard is sucking
not getting touches call sometimes
 
Latest beta?
 
ya
I fixed it up with some auto layout, so the button looks small, (The A is indented like Apples) but you are supposed to be able to tap the left and It should still insert an A, It does most of the time but If i just tap in the what appears to be black space It doesn't call touchesBegan, but If I start somewhere and slide my finger around and end up in the blank space in A it will add A.
It is being dumb
selecting other buttons also doesn't call touches. hmm
 
that is so buggy
 
ya, I'm about to kill it
Got it, disable user interaction
 
12:40 AM
seems to have fixed a lot. great
 
Kill me.
 
Ok
So touchesBegan is not called if the view is clear?!?!
whyyyyyy
a SO post says a clearColor background can still receive touches. Ya right
doesn't work
using alpha 0.01. that should work
yup
Adding the background color part makes touches more reliable, I can type as fast as I can on Apples keyboard now:D
I think this calls for celebration of dinner
 
 
1 hour later…
2:05 AM
Howdy, Max.
 
Hi
Xcode autocomplete is pretty bad right now
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In a shared framework importing files autocomplete is 100% messed up, importing a shared framework anywhere in the app is also 100% messed up. C'mon Apple its beta 7
Also errors come randomly without doing a thing. Moved a table view cell like days ago and now I'm getting errors that its not imported?
 
Upgraded to Beta 7, getting strange bugs
Anyone seeing notably strange behavior?
 
I haven't seen anything different besides stuff in Swift but I didn't work on my swift app in a few weeks so i expected changes
 
2:28 AM
I see strange behavior.
but it's outside my apartment...
 
2:41 AM
signature of methods changed, moving on
 
I wish XCode was smarter about the autocomplete in Swift. If I'm already typing "override func" and start tying the function name, it should realize that I already typed it instead of attempted to insert if again.
 
3:01 AM
Hello, I'm in Yokohama today :p
I brought my MacBook because I wanted to attend a workshop at the conference I am attending but...it didn't have any spots left
The wifi connection is moody as usual
 
Which conference are you attending?
 
CEDEC
I'm not sure if it is held outside of Japan
 
Interesting conference?
Also, meant to ask you, did you do any of the JLPT?
 
I hold an N2 certificate
I got that 4 years ago though
If I studied vocab a bit I'd probably be able to get N1 but I have not had a reason to
That's the only one I took
 
So you're fluent for all day-to-day applications.
 
3:11 AM
Yes
 
Cool. My wife is studying Japanese right now, seems to be enjoying it.
 
How long?
My mother has also signed up for a class at a nearby university
She is trying to get permission for an audit
 
Not long, but she has a background. When she was younger, she used to be big into importing JRPG games, since the english translations back then were truly terrible
So she taught herself to translate them.
Then she stopped for over a decade, and is picking it back up.
So she has some patchwork knowledge that comes back as she studies, which allows her to progress faster than if she were brand new to it.
 
Lol really?! She just decided to up and translate Japanese?
That's ridiculously ambitious
It boggles the mind
 
Yeah. She was part of a large friend/community of Japanophiles. Anime and JRPGs and the whole 9 yards.
 
3:15 AM
If she was able to do it even a little then I have no doubt that she will easily be able to speak it in a few months
 
We all still watch anime, so she's literally spent years training her ears to hear Japanese, which is often the hardest part for most languages.
 
As it stands for me now reading is the 2nd hardest thing for me to do in Japanese
Actually, that's the easiest part for me now
(listening)
 
what's the hardest thing to do in Japanese?
 
Hell, I wish there were anywhere near the amount of good programming in Russian as there is in Japanese.
 
I would think it's watching the game shows on TV
 
3:16 AM
write by hand
(While making full use of the government defined standard set of chinese characters)
Game shows are hella easy
Especially since half of it is accompanied by subtitles :p
 
Communism dominated Soviet life for so long that Russian TV is kind of ridiculous. I'm pretty much stuck watching Russian dubs of US/UK TV shows. :D
 
Japanese people love to leave their TVs on with the volume muted while they do other things
So broadcast networks realized that their viewership would increase with subtitles on key points of the program
Speaking of bad programming
 
Technically speaking, we often watch our Hulu shows in English with subtitles.
 
Japanese subtitles? Russian?
 
We can control the obnoxiously loud audio that seems to accompany the special effects track without losing dialogue.
No, English subtitles
I'm not allowed to listen to my Russian stuff out loud. Headphones only. :D
I just started learning it, so I'm being obnoxious with it.
 
3:21 AM
I almost studied Russian
Of course, it was because I had a pretty gorgeous russian girl in my class :p
It would have been futile, though, since she got engaged shortly after I would have started haha
 
@borrrden Hello Yokohama boy.
How's the weather up there?
 
I study Russian because I have a gorgeous Russian friend who can help me. :)
Also futile in my case, since we're both married, but she is a good friend and there to help me with my Russian when I need it.
 
Slightly cloudy
But mostly sunny
 
I will only be using retina laptop for 2.5 more days :(
 
Lol quite your whining :p
If it concerns you so much then you should buy one of your own ;)
 
3:32 AM
Hahahaha, easy for you to say, you have one of your own =P
 
Which I am still paying for
Basically I am saying DO WHAT I DID haha
 
Luckily, my work paid for mine.
 
Enrico's did too, but now that he's quitting he has to give it back
I was also lucky though, because I got it during Apple's 0% interest loan campaign
 
Yes.
I have 2 laptops: Macbook Pro Retina 15", and Macbook Air 13".
One is from work, one is my personal.
 
A few more months until I'm finished paying for it
At which point, I think I will join my boxing gym full time instead of just on weekends
 
3:37 AM
And to be honest I am 99% happy with the Air until work gave me the retina.
 
(it costs more)
 
I have a regular MacBook 13 as my personal machine.
Retina 15 as my work dev machine. :D
 
You still have the one with DVD drive?
 
You have a different gig lined up, Enrico? Or are you doing something else?
 
That animal is getting rare.
 
3:41 AM
My 13" has the superdrive thing, yeah.
 
I'm travelling to Hong Kong for about a year, Xian.
And I do have some contract thingy lined up.
 
Interestingly enough, I also got an offer for an interview yesterday
 
Ah, to be young, footloose, and fancy-free.
 
Hahaha, yeah.
 
3:42 AM
And I'm considering it intensely because it means I would be able to work mostly from home
On the downside, I wouldn't be a programmer anymore though
(Not as my job anyway)
My job would be getting customers set up with a product or showing them what they can do with it, and answering technical questions
 
Better/similar pay?
 
That's the part I haven't been informed of yet
 
Ah, makes sense.
 
Because it was not an official offer really. Someone who works there said I think this job would be perfect for you given your technical and communication ablilities
If you want, I'll introduce you to the manager
I'd also ask about the possibility of contributing to the software itself in some way since there is no way I'm just going to stop programming
If anything I'll start writing open source projects as a hobby :p
But the company is based in America, and the Japanese "branch" is still quite small I think
I'm not sure how involved they are in the main operation of the company
But two of the engineers are here in Japan for an event so I'm going to have dinner with them and the person who I am in contact with on Friday
 
Sounds like a good potential connection.
 
3:46 AM
(She told me it is rare for someone from CA to be here in Japan)
This also gives me a potential out for immigrating back to America :p
 
One day I guess it'd be nice to stop programming, and just do it as little/much as I want.
Currently I have quite a lot of pressure to do shitloads of programming.
 
It sounds nice, but I wonder how much they pay someone who is really just a technical salesperson
 
You want to keep staying over there?
 
Most of them will be deleting codes I wrote a few weeks ago.
 
Not forever
America pays a lot better
I went to a lecture yesterday by someone from Ubisoft
He said "the first revision of something will never be good enough so try to throw it away as fast as you can"
He also said "waste noone's time but your own"
 
3:48 AM
There are perks of living outside of America. Like...not being in America. :d
 
He also showed off an impressive tool that they used for Rayman
In which they can interactively build and play a level at the same time
And create simple test things to try to see if they are worth making before they actually make them
In theory someone could be building the level and someone could be standing beside them playing it out at the same time haha
(although he indicated that they never do that)
Anyway I need to know more details about the pay / insurance / etc of this new position
In fact there is no where that even indicates that it is a full time job
Though I can't image that it is not
 
Is your current gig over there pretty stable, or do you anticipate you'd be moving back to the US soon if you don't jump ship?
 
I won't be moving any time soon
My wife has English difficulties
She's getting better, but as you know learning a language is not a fast process
 
I do indeed.
 
We're visiting again starting on the 13th
10 more days!
 
4:02 AM
Yo
 
Non-retina is so bad
Segmented bar has like a 1-2px line on top and a 0.5 thin border on bottom, it looks liekt eh top has a shadown on non-retina displays
it looks terrible, the share button items also look squished
 
@Maximilian Get out of here you bastard
lol
I used non retina for 24 years
I know what's bad.
I used a 320x480 CRT
I can kill you with that display, I swear.
 
seems to be just my segmented bar, my navigation bar is normal height, I don't set a height or width on the segmented bar. why does it look so bad
Someone hates me
Ugh, I hate translucency
 
No, translucency hates you.
 
4:13 AM
Even though there are blur effects I feel like I can't do anything still.
I can't make the navigation controller navigation bar taller, I can't match the navigation bar blur, I can notice translucent and non translucent bars next to each other. looks so bad
 
^ Take that retina boy.
 
my eyes burn
 
No, if I throw that at you, your whole body burn.
 
I think his whole body will be lacerated, not burnt
I'm about to listen to an Unreal Engine lecture :p
From Epic Games Japan
(Yes, in Japanese of course)
 
4:41 AM
AAAAAARGHHHHHH
 
Good afternoon everyone
jim finally I ate go go curry
hahaha
 
NAYOSO!
ARE YOU GETTING MARRIED
I want to try to convince my girlfriend to call me onii chan and for me to call her kuroneko chan.
 
SHIT WHY ARE YOU ASKING THAT ENRICO?
hahaha
not yet
not that fast
marriage is not a simple matter -_-
 
LOL
I know, I'm just teasing you.
 
hahaha
shit why kuroneko?
black cat?
kuroneko is the name of the most popular delivery service in here
 
5:40 AM
Kuroneko is not the real name @nayoso
It's a nickname based on their logo
 
Well thank god the two of you didn't get the real reference of kuroneko.
nil would've gotten it.
 
the realname is yamato right?
kuroneko yamato
and I just realized the difference between service level in 区役所 and 市役所 is different
 
 
1 hour later…
7:01 AM
wake up @Shade !!!
 
DONT WAKE HIM UP
WHAT HAVE YOU DONE
 
he only wakes up about once a month
I'm not too worried.
 
I think i'm missing something here, i define my struct in my class then create an instance but i cannot access the structs properties through dot syntax with the new instance created
 
Hello to you too.
 
why are you declaring a struct instead of just another Objective-C object, since you want to access properties?
Hello to you too, Mutch.
 
7:04 AM
Hey
it's c# though :/
working with unity
 
blorf
UGH
that's nasty.
 
It's NSChat, not CSharpChat =P
 
It doesn't specify it's about Objective-C does it? it only says " Discussion for iOS and OS X developers."
 
structs do not have properties, anyways.
they aren't objective-C objects.
 
I was using the wrong terminology, i meant variables
 
7:10 AM
structs don't have dot syntaxes, either...
unless they are on the stack.
if they are pointers, you use "->".
 
@Mutch95 Very clever!
It is actually true.
 
answers.unity3d.com/questions/211453/structs-in-c-question.html But on this website they create an instance of a struct called Item0 then access it's variables via dot syntax?
Is it all those getters and setters that i need to define...
I think thats what my issue is.
That's a yes. Wow that's ugly.
 
8:04 AM
everybody fell asleep?
 
8:17 AM
Nope
 
 
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10:11 AM
Some of these procedural generation techniques are really interesting
 
 
1 hour later…
11:31 AM
@Dev2rights This is the kind of terrain I was getting at the other day when I asked about unity
Is that a specific type of object in Unity, do you think?
Or something thats scripted instead?
Trying to find the right method to use to create similar terrain
Digging unity, but my knowledge of game dev is lacking severely.
 
Has anyone ever used this --> stackoverflow.com/a/21690558/361247
Did you get your app rejected? Please ping me if you have used it :)
 
 
1 hour later…
12:41 PM
Ew why can't i round a float in c#
 
12:52 PM
Are you trying to round or convert to integer?
 
1:19 PM
Hi all. Is there any method that gets called right before serialized data is stored to CoreData store file?
What I want is to take this data and copy it to other file.
 
executeFetchRequest blocks UI.executeFetchRequest freezes the app. tried many solutions but it sill freezes.If I perform background fetch in one view controller and try to navigate to another VC it will wait to complete executeFetchRequest to load the view
 
Hi i need some suggestion for runtime changing the iOS app Language
i have added this code into main.m pastebin.com/YsLHun8X .. The language change is not affect on App but when i restart application it will work.
 
@CaptainRedmuff ahh i see yeah so extruding the scenery
we did soemthing funky to do that a while back using 2d bitmaps to determine the terrain size chape and height, each pixel was converted from rgb over to ( type,depth,otehr)
we then had a script that went through the png and generated the map from a png
this meant that you could build top down maps in photoshop, worked really well
never finished the game though
then you could do it on the fly in game too with the same algorighm
and use the third param for tile type that would refer to what part type of tile, or in this case model belonged in that space
id say its more than just a thought as we did that with terrain and trees in a single bitmap
 
akk
1:40 PM
@Dev2rights can you tel me how to create installer in osx?
@MichaelDautermann
 
I havent got that far on OSX yet still working on my first app.
 
akk
oops
i need to create installer for mac app. like similar to .exe file in windows
 
Can you do that with the built in terrain GO at run time?
I guess you could snap the height map data to a grid based on the closest location to the mouse points
 
depends on your requirements
 
I'm thinking a voxel based terrain might be easier
 
1:51 PM
we had it running on a loop generating from a bitmap for infinite on an ipad 1, i forget how many polys though but we lost efficency from doing it
 
terrain GO looks like its limited to rectangles
 
will be limited to tri's surely
though might not be
be a bit silly to do that in quads imho
 
what would you call the genre of that kinda game?
googling for "simulation" just fetches up a load of flight sims etc
 
yeah id say a simulation game
good question
Theme Park is a construction and management simulation game designed by Bullfrog Productions and originally released in 1994, in which the player designs and operates an amusement park. Theme Hospital is Bullfrog's thematic successor to the game, while Chris Sawyer's RollerCoaster Tycoon series has evolved the concept to offer a far more realistic selection of rides. == Gameplay == Starting with a free plot of land in the United Kingdom and few hundred thousand pounds, the player must build a profitable amusement park. Money is spent on building rides and shops and on staff, and is earned through...
construciton management simlation alledgedly
hated theme park, there was no real ending
 
SimCity 4 (SC4) is a city-building/urban planning simulation computer game developed by Maxis, a subsidiary of Electronic Arts. It was released on January 14, 2003. It is the fourth installment in the SimCity series. SimCity 4 has a single expansion pack called Rush Hour which adds features to the game. SimCity 4: Deluxe Edition contained the original game and Rush Hour combined as a single product. The game allows players to create a region of land by terraforming, and then to design and build a settlement which can grow into a city. Players can zone different areas of land as commercial, industrial...
 
1:54 PM
spent way to much time playing it too
 
same genre for Sim City
 
yah looks right
 
Theme Park was pretty good, back in the day
RCT is better but again, no end game
Thanks, @Dev2rights
 
I've got next week off so i'm going to tinker with Unity and see what I can learn
 
1:57 PM
haha im jelous, im trying to get ahead on this project to buy some time to work on our next game
such a distraciton when the artwork is ready
 
I'll bet.
Myself and an old work colleague started putting together ideas for a game and now I can't be arsed finishing another project that's pretty much 75% done
I'm terrible at finishing projects :/
 
im the same
since me and my mate started this company we must have started about 5 games and about 3 app ideas
finished none of them
this time though were stickign to it
the only one we finished too is pretty rubish as we started it before Unity could do all the things unity now does
 
the free version of Unity has a surprisingly large feature set
 
2:17 PM
yeah but the nice features are all missing though
 
googling for unity construction management sim doesn't throw up anything helpful
I hate it when you can't google for something when theres a specific result that hides the actual content
i.e.: I can't google for terrain as theres a GO called terrain and thats not what I want
 
2:43 PM
Lost my  shirt:[ If I can't find it by the weekend then it looks like I'm driving up to Cupertino to get one again
Pretty annoyed, texted like 10 people who may have seen it last on a trip
 
hi there
> Your iOS Distribution Certificate will expire in 30 days.
what exactly this message mean ?
Is it that my apple account will be expired in 30 days or my app will stop to work to users which have my app already installed ?
 
2:58 PM
Your developer account will expire
Which means you can no longer submit new apps
The existing apps on the app store will be removed
But people who have already bought you app will still be able to use it
As far as I'm aware.
 
some answers on stackoverflow are explaining different that overall made me confused. anyone here who can confirm
 
3:32 PM
@CaptainRedmuff sorry I was on call, people are saying that I have to create a certificate and upload my app again with new certificate
 
3:46 PM
Pay them off to keep your apps in the store
 
Do I need to create a certificate ..upload my app again blah etc ?
 
no
existing apps on the app store do not need resigning
 
ok thanks :)
 
4:15 PM
Whats the best way to create a gif of an app?
I mirrored my app using Reflector and then used a free gif app on the MAS and it turned out crappy, my app is on a website and I have the only bad gif
 
 
2 hours later…
6:38 PM
hard to believe, but Saad has been sleeping longer than @Shade
 
Hello Michael!
 
Hello Rohan...
 
@Maximilian looks fine, actually
@MichaelDautermann have you ever worked with Core Data + sorting?
 
you're still talking to Max?
 
nah
yes.
I forgot, you blocked him didn't you?
 
6:50 PM
about a year ago now...
never regretted it.
 
tsh
cold
 
what's cold? it's a nice warm day here in San Fran
 
this seems to be the answer to my question...didn't know this supported sections
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Q: Creating sections with NSFetchedResultsController, on the fly

Mackey18I'm using NSFetchedResultsController (NSFRC) to display information in a UITableView. I'm trying to create the option for the user to sort the cells in sections as opposed to alphabetically. The problem is, the sections would then be determined using downloaded information. On top of this the sec...

 
hi, How to send message from one page to another in iOS
as we do in android through intents
?
 
what's a page?
 
6:55 PM
a viewController
 
Delegate. Blocks. NSNotifications.
 
does one view controller have a reference to another view controller?
 
Or properties + custom getter/setter
 
I am using storyboard and I am using segue for navigation purpose
 
I'll let you handle this one, Matt. :-)
 
6:58 PM
@ashutiwari4 In your source View Controller override prepareForSegue: and use it to pass in or communicate however you wish with the destination View Controller. stackoverflow.com/a/7865100/183471
 
bro I am new to iOS and I know method in android which is putExtra() with intent ... I was hoping if there is some method in iOs for same purpose
 
prepareForSegue: will accomplish that purpose here. You just need a reference to the destination view controller, it gives you that.
Viewing that question & answer above should make things clearer.
 
^ +1
 
will this method overrides in view controllers
 
Will that method have to be overridden in the source view controller? Yes. You will also have to implement a method or property in the destination view controller that allows it to accept your object/data.
@ashutiwari4 Step-by-step if you need it. nscookbook.com/2013/01/…
 
7:05 PM
thanks bro
 
fo shizzle
I too remember when I first learned how to use Google
:)
 
@ashutiwari4 : I would recommend you to read documentation first.
 
that too
What solutions have you guys found for window management in OSX?
I'm new to it (Windows is my main OS) and switching from window-to-window can be unwieldy.
 
window management?
 
Not into OSX yet
 
7:09 PM
I just mean in terms of daily use
 
what do you mean?
 
> I'm new to it (Windows is my main OS) and switching from window-to-window can be unwieldy.
 
going from one window to another?
 
yes.
 
Command + Tab?
 
7:10 PM
that's to switch from app to another app
maybe Matt needs to get to know Spaces ?
 
CMD + `
 
or Exposé ?
 
In Windows, all windows have a corresponding icon in the task bar at all times. So I just need to pick from there.
In OSX, not so much. I have to manually minimize them if I want that.
Maybe there's some power tips I'm missing
I just dislike the barrier between moving between apps/windows
Of course there's hot corners
 
I love hot corners. :D
 
7:29 PM
I love hot pockets.
 
7:48 PM
OK
I'll add it to the book I'm writing
 
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