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user457812
12:13 AM
I don't see much reason to browse documentation on iOS
 
user457812
Can't do any meaningful work on there in the first place.
 
user457812
12:52 AM
I finally found a use for user-defined literals, though it requires C++14's relaxation of constexpr functions to use: gist.github.com/nilium/11019417
 
Ohayo, NSChat.
Long weekend, everyone?
 
1:11 AM
Good morning enrico!
no long weekend for me and borrrden I guess
 
You guys don't celebrate Easter, do you?
Oh yeah, I went to Japan at around easter time too last year.
 
Nope
 
user457812
And updated the string hash literal thing.
 
Japan is not religious really
Especially not Christian
 
But they do have a holiday in Christmas, right?
 
1:26 AM
Nope
 
nope
 
Seriously?
 
Why would they? :p
 
but they have unique day like green day and sea day
 
But the animes that I've been watching all have like a date on Christmas day.
 
1:26 AM
There is one near Christmas but it is a coincidence (Emperor's birthday)
 
I thought that's because it's a holiday over there.
 
Nope, it's because Christmas is for spending with your boyfriend or girlfriend as a kid :p
And New Year's is for spending with your family
A bit of the opposite of America
 
you can see that enrico
 
Although these days Christian weddings and wedding rings are growing in popularity
 
1:27 AM
So as an adult, you don't go on a date with your girlfriend on Christmas?
 
Speaking of which I bought an engagement ring with my girlfriend before the sales tax went up :p
You can try, but you'd probably have to go to work lol
 
Wow!
 
It was on sale too hehe
30,000 yen off
 
you save your wallet then
30.000 off
and 3% tax difference
 
Yeah, the tax at that point makes a difference
 
1:28 AM
you already proposed to your girlfriend borrrden?
 
No, not yet lol
 
WOOOOO ENGAGEMENT RING
 
ah I see
 
She knows I'm going to though
 
good luck with that borrrden!
 
1:29 AM
Damn it I may need to propose too sometime.
Lol
 
sometime?
 
She even told her mom to expect me to drop by any day to tell them
 
HAHAHA
 
Because I told her I want to ask if her parents are OK with it
 
1:29 AM
Even though if they say no I will still do it
 
(But of course they are Ok with it, right?)
 
I'm not sure about her father
 
I also didn't know why japanese woman want to be married so fast
 
I don't see him often and he thinks I'm some kinda weirdo for having so much debt
 
I'm still disappointed that Christmas date is only for kids in Japan, not adults :(
 
1:30 AM
You still do something special as adults :p
 
nayoso: not all Japanese women though.
 
Just not as easily as kids since kids are on their winter break from school
 
I heard statistics that a lot of Japanese now like to be single until mid 30s.
 
lol my girlfriend said to me "I want to be married by my birthday this year"
 
hmmm
see enrico?
 
1:30 AM
And "I want to have kids before I'm 30"
 
borrrden: I'm sure her father will be fine.
 
usually
 
When's her birthday, borrrden?
 
when they have a boyfriend
 
lol wow.
 
1:31 AM
Her father suggested that she wait until I pay off the debt
 
user457812
And updated again because I'm awesome.
 
they want to be married as soon as possible
 
August 18th
But Enrico is also correct
 
How long before her birthday will you need to propose in order to get married in time?
 
There is a new social trend which I can only explain as "not giving a shit about anything"
 
1:32 AM
Yeah, I read this last year: theguardian.com/world/2013/oct/20/…
 
We can get married almost the same day, since we aren't going to have a ceremony
I just need to go to the embassy and prepare an oath that I am not married in my home country
 
It's mostly about men though. They don't seem interested in chasing women anymore
 
borrrden: That is very convenient! I will probably have to do at least 5-6 months of preparation.
 
my company colleague have a new boyfriend only for 2 months and then she wants to marry as soon as possible
 
1:33 AM
My girlfriend would want to wear wedding dress etc.
 
We will probably rent some wedding clothes and take a few professional pictures
 
Would that take only a day?
 
It's not a requirement for getting married lol
We can do that after the actual signing
 
The culture is quite different I think enrico
 
It's really not much different than signing a contract
Except that you need a lot of other items to sign the contract, as well as two people to verify that you actually signed it
 
1:34 AM
Usually borrrden, in indonesia we invite up to 1000++ people to our wedding party
 
> Japan is a lonely, lonely country, if two reports, one in Spa magazine and the other in the weekly Aera, reflect the true state of things. The former focuses on single life, the latter on marriage. Both come across as sad, abject, mournful failures. You wouldn’t choose either, if you had a choice — and what else is there?
nayoso: I am not going to invite 1,000+ people.
 
After that, city hall will issue a certificate and that is the legal proof of your marriage. It is also binding in the U.S.
 
I'd probably have a small, 100 people wedding mostly just close friends and immediate family.
 
you're not but your family will
 
No, trust me I won't =P
 
1:35 AM
100 people is not small
 
ahhahah
 
For Indonesian it is.
 
Indonesia is bat shit crazy then lol
 
for indonesian marriage scale it's small borrrden
 
In Japan it would cost 4,000,000 yen to have a party with that many people
 
1:36 AM
usually from 1000 people 70% of them is your family friend's or your relative
 
Ideally I'd only invite 10 people in my family, 10 people from my girlfriend's family, 15 of my close friends, 15 of my girlfriend's close friends.
 
That's enough to buy 2 new cars
 
So that makes it 50 people.
But in reality they'll invite their significant others, so 100.
 
How can you pay for all that? :p
 
you don't invite the NSChatters enrico?
 
1:37 AM
With tears.
Hahahahaha
If you don't bring up the wet pants joke again, I may invite you.
borrrden: people usually spend about $30,000 to $50,000 for a wedding over here.
 
HOW?
Bah
 
I know, it's stupid, right?
 
My cousin spent about that much I guess though
She had her wedding in Napa Valley
 
Hahahha wet pants
 
My girlfriend would rather spend that money to go on a trip abroad
 
1:39 AM
wait I didn't know what is napa valley
going to ask the google sensei
 
Napa Valley is like Bali.
In Japan, you don't invite many people?
 
Now that I think about it, it'd be hard to choose the 15 people I'd invite.
 
I've seen this place in movie!
 
I went to a Japanese wedding once
For my friend
There were about 60 - 70 people there I'd say
 
1:40 AM
@nayoso I am sure I was in that movie
 
My japanese friend's wedding was about 150-200 people
but he is a rich man in osaka
 
Nice, we have Will Smith too over here now.
 
user457812
enum { DEFINE_KW = "define"_hash32 }; // HAHAHAHAHAHA
 
Here is a picture from her banquet -> scontent-a-lax.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t1.0-9/…
Isn't it great how I can just paste a link and get around all of Facebook's privacy settings? :p
 
I was going to post one of the photos on my Facebook too. Hahahahaha.
I feel bad ignoring nil but he decided not to join this conversation.
 
1:43 AM
I see nil is enjoying the new user defined literals
 
user457812
I found the only useful thing I could for user-defined literals
 
is that napa valley borrrden?
 
yeah
 
that's a nice wedding venue I think
 
But you wouldn't be able to tell by looking at it
 
1:44 AM
Should I eat salad or pasta for lunch?
 
no wonder that's so expensive
 
Napa Valley is famous for vineyards
 
enrico
Today is your カレー day?isn't it?
 
When I'm at work, it is.
But I am still in my pyjamas and nothing is open at all.
 
HAHAHHA
 
1:46 AM
Recently, me and a few of my colleagues has been going to this good ramen place a lot.
And we always order the hottest ramen.
 
enrico have you ever tried indomie abang adek at roxy, jakarta?
 
I think one day I will have an IP address starting with each number from 1 - 2XX (whatever the max is for public IP addresses) in my banned list
 
No, I've never tried that actually. What's the difference with the regular Indomie?
 
just see the picture
 
Fuck.
Holy shit.
 
user457812
1:47 AM
Most red sauces just kind of gross me out.
 
Is that pete?
 
not pete
it's chilli
 
Just green chilli?
 
I love red sauces
 
1:48 AM
That reminds me of Hiroshima Okonomiyaki though (except that it is not spicy)
 
I love red sauces, but maybe not that much.
 
I found a very good salad recipe the other day: thebestcaesar.com
 
hiroshimayaki!
There is a good place hiroshimayaki in shinjuku jim!
 
Shit that looks awesome jimu
 
1:49 AM
It's my favorite okonomiyaki style
 
Is that okonomiyaki + yaki soba?
 
Hey guys
 
Well, just soba noodles
 
I was on TV today
 
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL ETHEN
 
1:50 AM
Also, I am trying out f.lux
 
Meant for yakisoba, but thrown in as is
 
@EnricoSusatyo My parents were impressed lol
 
borrrden: I had something close to that in Osaka last year.
HAHAHAHAHAHA ETHEN
 
you can try that borrrden
it's called okonomiyaki too enrico
but the style is different
 
1:51 AM
Yeah.
I'm flicking through some photos I took in Japan last year.
 
OMG I'm growing to hate PHP more and more
 
Also, today and tomorrow I spent/(will be spending) the day at my mom's cafe, which is in downtown Duluth, and I'm wondering what the likelihood of NSBank kicking me out as a hoodlum if I try to grab a flyer from them is.
Because there is probably something funny I could do with an NSBank flyer
 
I think should try to start convince my company to starts using rails
 
I had this in Dotonbori in Osaka last year: dropbox.com/s/qn0pmmc27sbbcm2/R0022185.JPG
 
I get errors (I'll elaborate in a sec on them) when I try to do for (Class *classType in someArray) {...}
 
1:54 AM
LOL ETHEN
nayoso: LOL PHP
 
One of my friends wrote his own web server :p
 
yes enrico
 
It was related to his PHD thesis or something
 
until last year I think I'm OK with PHP
because I've just graduated from university and the only web server language they teach me is jsp
 
It says selector element type 'Class*' is not a valid object
As a compiler error
 
1:55 AM
at least PHP is better than jsp
In my opinion
 
The description is "Client/server data binding engine with AngularJS."
 
that was awesome borrrden
 
I've also tried for (Class *classType in (Class*)someArray) {...}
 
I'm working with Javascript a lot for my project
 
I tried Rails, I have my own problems with it, but mostly it was quite fine.
And I hate Javascript.
 
1:56 AM
node.js that is
 
I don't have any big problem with javascript though
 
Ethen: Can you paste your code in gist?
 
Which makes it more reasonable, but still not great
 
That literally is the code
 
Class should not be a pointer
 
1:57 AM
Javascript is pure evil. You don't get compile error and it can get produce the weirdest results.
Ethen: You used "Class" ?
 
Class already is a pointer
 
Wait, are you asking me to elaborate inside of a gist, or telling me off as a mod for posting code in chat?
 
Lol, no that code is fine. I just don't understand
 
@EnricoSusatyo yes
 
Although IDE tools make it easier
 
1:58 AM
I literally typed in class
 
jimu: Max hour is going to start soon, make sure you cancel all the meetings for the next hour.
 
WebStorm, in particular, will not highlight a property if it fails to figure out where it came from
 
I've never tried node.js
 
Ethen: Well, do you have a "Class"?
 
Well it's still regular Javascript
Based on v8
 
1:58 AM
but I met one people that love Go-lang so much
 
Usually I would use like "NSString", "NSDictionary", etc. Not "Class"
 
The thing people like about node is its async model
 
@EnricoSusatyo What do you mean? I literally typed in Class in there
 
Why did you do that?
 
1:59 AM
Are you storing classes inside of the array?
 
How are you adding them?
 
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