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12:04 AM
How do you like it?
 
Well, Since my last phone was galaxy young I'm pretty amazed
It's really fast!
 
is it running lollipop?
 
It has a custom android, I'm not sure if it's kitkat or lollipop
 
Hmm. Does it give you a version number in the 'about phone' in settings?
 
4.4.4 it says
I recommend the 64gb version since you can't add memory to it in the shape of a SD card
I thought you could when I bought it, but you can't
 
12:07 AM
That's kit kat
32 gb is still pretty good. That's what I have on my nexus and I don't have any trouble.
 
I have 64gb :P
the other option was 16gb
 
oh that's too little for sure haha
 
Yeah, and since you can't expand it... well... better just buy the 64 one
Also.. dafuq happened to "phone book"
 
You mean 'Contacts'?
 
12:22 AM
yes
 
lol what about it?
 
full of random shit
It auto syncs somehow
 
12:42 AM
Sometimes I just don't understand cursor.
Calling cursor.getColumnNames() clearly shows the column I want, but cursor.getcolumnIndex() is giving me -1
 
hmm
 
I'm going mad. I am 100% sure this should work. Infact, it works in one spot but not the other.
I use this code twice.
 
@McAdam331 what is the issue?
 
I am using a CursorLoader, and in onLoadFinished() I'm reading a value from a Cursor and I'm using cursor.getColumnIndex(columnName) to get the column and it's returning an index of -1, as if the column doesn't exist, even though clearly it's there.
I'm trying to debug via logging, I'll post it if I don't figure it out.
 
Hmm :/
 
12:56 AM
are you sure you are returning the column on the query?
maybe you just added this column and you are not querying it
 
@Emmanuel I'm gonna run to eat, give me 15 minutes, but here's a really quick gist if you're interested in trying to find my logic error. gist.github.com/AdamMc331/1386ca37754270a7d80e
 
what is the column you want?
 
1:12 AM
Anyone know of any libraries for taking a Cursor object and creating a list of models out of it?
 
1:23 AM
I want to get the account balance column, @Emmanuel
 
you are missing AccountEntry.TABLE_NAME, but I do not think that matters
 
It shouldn't. I do something similar in another fragment, and I don't use it. I can try it for shits and giggles though.
 
pass null so you get all the columns back and see if that works
 
Tried that earlier, didn't work.
Using the table name had no effect.
 
did you add that column after creating the table?
have you tried running a raw sqlite3 query using adb
 
 
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5:14 AM
Yo People
 
howdy
 
eski, sup!
 
not too much working my brains on lumosity
 
Is it like brain exercise ?
 
yep
 
 
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6:32 AM
Good Morning o/
 
morning
 
7:25 AM
o/
 
7:48 AM
o/
 
Guys is there any way to handle the floating range? For example I want 0.30000001 to be 0.30, to keep only the 2 first numbers
 
user457812
8:32 AM
Use fixed point.
 
@nil do you have any reference where I can check this out, since I googled it but didn't find a good one
 
o/
 
Ok I will check this out, thanks
 
 
3 hours later…
11:31 AM
what is the best tool for performance benchmarking an android app
 
 
1 hour later…
12:38 PM
nevermind my dumb question
 
1:36 PM
Not to be mean or anything, but it seems like everyone did... ;P
 
well everyone seems afk today
 
o/
 
o/
 
\o
 
Looks like it's going to be a slow day.
 
1:54 PM
yeah. I'm guessing lots of people are hung over :P
 
Was it a holiday or something yesterday?
 
I think it was Friday'
 
Oh, yeah, my computer says you're right.
 
3:02 PM
> eight tenths of an inch thick
Why would you ever think that was appropriate way to describe thickness?
 
3:30 PM
Most people enjoy the ethanol on fridays :P
 
3:41 PM
isn't there a callback for when views are properly sized? (i.e when view.getWidth() != 0) I feel using onWindowFocusChanged isn't right
 
4:25 PM
Do we have any NPM specialists around right now?
 
NPM?
 
Seems like you got at NPE on that
 
hey guys i integrated Github and Android studio. Now, i want to protect my keys to not to get uploaded. I checked it can be done by .gitignore. But, i want to know is there any better way exists? Because, if i omitted that config class, then how do others know that there should be class called Config if they want to run mine proj?
and how to remove the file that i already uploaded in github? i added to .gitignore. But, no effect.
 
Put the key on a different folder and do not include it on source control
 
If i put that on a different folder, then during retrieving those keys, the path usually appears in import right?
If i omitted that different folder by .gitignore, in project it still have some imports. That makes some error.
 
4:33 PM
You mean signing keys?
 
API Keys
 
4:52 PM
@Emmanuel Yeeah NPM, the node.js package manager.
 
5:35 PM
o/
 
\o
 
6:03 PM
Nana, I have used bower mostly
For web projects
 
6:18 PM
I am still trying to get comfortable around npm, bower, grunt, gulp,....
Webdev had changed tremendously in the past couple of years.
My issue was installing the latest version of NPM on Cloud9.
 
Gulp is pretty nice
 
I am trying to figure out if I will be able to use the chromebook for everything.
Yesterday, half an hour after I got it I installed Crouton and Ubuntu 14.04 on it. It worked pretty well after fixing the issues with the crazy resolution this thing has.
 
6:34 PM
if everything is browsing a couple of websites in Google™ Chrome™, then yes
ah, with normal OS it's more like a normal laptop :)
how good is Chromebook's thermal dissipation?
especially if you can compare to MacBooks
because the latter tend to get really hot when CPU is at maximum workload
 
Crazy resolution.?
 
if it's 2560x1700, then it's not yet crazy :P
 
I can't compare it to MacBooks on the grounds of thermal dissipation but I can tell you that I have not held any other laptop in my hand that would feel better.
 
 
Yes, that's the resolution. No way you can run it in native mode.
 
6:42 PM
why?
what do you mean by native mode?
 
it's too much to render
 
I'm running 15.4-inch (2880 x 1800) in native mode without problems
 
No it renders at native but it's doubling the size
 
nope: quadruple the size
 
Ok let me take a screenshot
 
6:43 PM
DPI scaling is perfectly fine
 
I get like 15 fps when I run a game
 
games are different beasts, yeah
 
for normal use, I guess it's fine
 
…and gaming on laptops is not really cool idea anyway
yeah
 
I bet the alienware is thick because of the LEDs for the coolness
 
6:44 PM
On 12.8" screen
 
ooooh, that's eye killer
you'd better make fonts larger
 
you never want something small like that
 
Exactly, so you can press Ctrl + Shift + {+,-} to change the virtual resolution as you can see in the bottom right.
 
I don't know why imgur killed my screenshot with jpeg compression (I never asked for this), but you can see the scaling
that's what OS X can do out of the box
@nana will it do proper DPI scaling, or just render everything in half resolution?
 
proper scaling
 
6:49 PM
wow, that's great
even looks sexy
 
Those are cool resolutions for myopia
 
btw, I have myopia
 
wait, is that on a chromebook pixel?
 
Me? Yeah
 
can't focus further than ~0.5 meters without glasses
 
6:52 PM
cool
 
but on the other hand can look at tiny details when close
I'd better have normal eyes :(
 
did you install linux on it?
 
19 mins ago, by nana
Yesterday, half an hour after I got it I installed Crouton and Ubuntu 14.04 on it. It worked pretty well after fixing the issues with the crazy resolution this thing has.
 
oh
I'm off. o/
 
is it possible to have ≥16 GB RAM on it?
looks like the only major flaw in comparison with MacBooks
 
6:56 PM
Nope, AFAIK everything is soldered in.
 
and only 64GB of persistent memory??
this is nuts
 
My thinking was that 64GB should do and if not I can just put in an 256GB SD card, it fits flush.
So far the biggest issue is the chromebok type keyboard layout. The keyboard iself feels great, but it's missing F keys, delete, windows key, page up, page down,...
 
I hope they will make another revision with larger memories
 
I doubt it.
 
it could kick Apple's ass, and everyone would win
 
7:00 PM
The whole point of Chrome OS is that you don't have local files, everything is cloud based.
But the hardware... oh the hardware, I haven't held anything quite like this before. You just want to touch it.
 
that's why I wrote about kicking Apple's ass
if it would have more adequate tech specs, it could be a serious competitor
for now, MacBooks are unmatched AFAIK
 
I am usually utilitarian, my laptop of choice is a ThinkPad but this is from somewhere else.
 
and this is bad, because they can set prices as high as they want
and people have to deal with it
 
It's waster than Macbook.
And nicer.
Has a better battery life.
 
but not really usable as do-it-all machine, because too little [persistent] memory
 
7:03 PM
And if you drown it, you buy another one open it log in and it's as if nothing happened.
 
MacBooks have builds with 500 and 1000 GB memory
 
That's what I am trying to figure out, if it is usable as a daily runner.
What do you have on the drive?
 
tons of music in lossless formats
and some other things, but this one is already deal breaker :P
 
That's not something you need to have locally, is it?
Just put in a SD card.
 
in theory, I can put in on SD cards
but I'm too lazy
 
7:05 PM
Also when you fill it up just put in another one.
Can't do that with a Macbook.
 
MacBook has built in SD card reader, too
 
Yeah? I didn't know that. Does the card stick out?
 
it's very handy for dealing with photos
yes, it does
 
Also look at this:
 
not a problem for me, though
 
7:06 PM
and back
i just shut it off and opened again
 
where to look?
 
the time difference between my messages
Again?
Ok, from now
 
what did you do?
 
to now
 
I don't understand :P
 
7:08 PM
closed the lid and wait for it to shut down, then opened the lid and wait for it to load up and replied
 
this is sleep, or complete shutdown?
 
Probably sleep
 
I mean, is the RAM powered off?
hm, okay
then nothing surprising
 
It would be difficult with complete shutdown, because I'd have to log in.
I am not hating on Macbooks, for the price of this puppy I could have bought one, so I would like to compare them.
I just want too see if I can use this instead of my main box.
 
I have to enter the password after sleep, too
because this is what I actually want
and set up intentionally immediately after install
 
7:13 PM
You can set it to that too here. Or you can have it unlock automatically if you have your android phone on you.
 
on GNU/Linux all this is easily doable, I know :)
 
No, this is ChromeOS
I reflashed it this morning, I am back on vanilla ChromeOS
 
why?
 
I wan't to see if I can use it as it is meant to be used.
If I want a linux laptop I can get a cheaper one.
 
I doubt it's good idea to use it like it is meant to be used. Because then not you own the computer, computer owns you instead
 
7:16 PM
As a matter of fact I just bought Asus Zenbook too :) so I will be bale to compare.
 
Google would have total control
 
It's a paradigm shift.
Like when we switched from DOS to GUI.
From hunting for software online to package managers.
 
is it possible to install hackintosh on Chromebook?
 
I don't know.
Physically it's an i7 with 16GB of ram and 64GB SSD
 
+ some peripherals. which are usually the problem
like WiFi adapter
 
7:18 PM
I don't think it would make sense, you can buy a Macbook for the same price.
Oh, periferals. The two USB type C ports are fun.
 
hmm, this thing costs like a Macbook? then it's really crazy
 
71126.30 Russian Ruble
When you plug the adapter in the left one the lights on top of the tablet are charging from left, when in right port the charge from right.
 
Macbooks are a lot cheaper in USA
 
Cheaper than in Russia?
 
7:22 PM
cheaper than in Russia a lot, and cheaper than in EU a bit less
 
How much are they in Russia?
 
depends on configuration
 
The prices you see online are before taxes!
You have to pay taxes in most states here.
 
top config is about 246000 rub here
 
7:25 PM
yeah
basically, max config for 15 inch pro/retina
without taxes this is still more than 200thousands
 
It's about 190000 after taxes here
 
so, there's still a big difference
thanks putin
 
It's ridiculously expensive even for people here.
I don't know who buys the high end Macbooks.
 
I would probably buy one after selling my current macbook. When/if they do a build with new processor (Skylake?)
but not here
maybe somewhere in EU
 
You would spend over 3000 Euro on a computer?
 
7:32 PM
less, because I would probably sell my current for 1000+ euro
 
How much did you pay for it?
The value retention is really amazing on Macbooks, I always found that bizzare.
 
about 100'000 rub, but I don't recall the exchange rate in that time
I have one shattered key, but it's impossible to spot if not knowing in advance where to look
and it's purely cosmetic defect
otherwise it's in perfect state
just needs some cleaning :D
I couldn't move abroad in that time, otherwise I could save some money by not buying in Russia, probably
and now I can :D
 
I though 100 000 rubles is a shit ton of money in Russia.
 
it depends on the point of view
but for the most of us it certainly is
even after that exchange rate madness
 
That is a lot of money for most people here I think.
 
7:41 PM
I had to borrow some money actually
but I was sure that I can return it timely
 
So you spent all the money you had and and some more to buy this computer.
 
yes, exactly
 
That's crazyness :)
 
and I do not regret it
in the later months it saved me a lot of time which I needed desperately
 
I get it, but imagine it didn't work out. For example it would get stolen a week later.
 
7:43 PM
yes, that would be disastrous
 
I don't think I'd have the balls to go all in like that anymore. I play it safer nowadays.
 
me too
hmmm, not really safe actually… but this is a different story.
 
This actually happened to me when I was a kid. I was buying a phone and got scammed, I lost all my savings.
 
at least, I do not do trainsurfing for fun anymore
 
Good lesson to learn in the end I guess.
Me neither. I am too old for that shit. (And unfit ;))
 
7:46 PM
some trainsurfing disciplines don't require being fit :D
but it's always a good thing to be fit
 
Like lying in the track?
 
like riding a suburban train on the back cabin in an "relaxed" area — where no one is going to hunt you
so you won't have to run away quickly
 
You can do this shit while you're under 18 years old, after then you're responsible, which sucks.
 
and sitting on a coupler is easy
 
But you can eat cake everyday, all day long :)
 
7:48 PM
yeah, so it's important to not get caught
being caught after trainsurfing in Russia is usually easy to avoid if you do proper planning and if you can run fast
 
Being able to run fast helps you in any country actually.
 
true
 
Maybe except here if you're black, because they will just shoot you.
 
We had five people die from train surfing last year. Fun sports for everyone, really gets your friends and family together.
 
:)
 
7:51 PM
I am lucky guy
 
I admit, trainsurfing is dangerous, especially if doing it wrong
 
My hands get wet while watching those russians
 
I'm just glad I wasn't part of the cleaning crew for that. People who've literary become train wrecks are kinda... Messy people....
 
youtu.be/8vvDjjUdl3s this is my video
riding the front cabin, and doing it wrong :(
 
7:54 PM
> In Russia, over 1000 train surfers were arrested at the Moscow Railway during ten months of 2011
 
Apparently one guys foot was overlooked and laid beside the track for a week before a mourning family member visited the spot to mourn and found it.
 
(please, turn off sound as it's weird)
 
I'm fat and out of shape, I'm glad if I can catch the train like a normal commuter in the morning 8D
Well, not "fat" but chubby
 
when in crowded situation, it's actually easier to ride the train outside
because less people are fighting for "open air" places
it's scary to review my own mistakes which could cost life
 
Cool video, what did you shoot it on?
Just a cellphone?
 
7:58 PM
some cheap canon point-and-shoot camera
and some stupid postprocessing with avisynth
 
works fine
 
nowadays even cell phones shoot video better
but (imho) cell phones are more difficult to handle
it's easy to accidentally drop it
 
I asked because I though you had one of those SJ4000 cams or something like that.
 
no… I had to keep it in my hand
in addition to wrongly chosen position, it was really bad
please, never do it so wrong
I also did ride trams, trolleybuses, freight trains, long distance trains, and even subway trains.
freight trains are the best.
because they don't stop frequently
but it's almost impossible to ride them for a specific goal — it's not easy to find out when and where it will go.
 
I don't think I will ever do it again, so no worries ;)
 
:)
A little messy, no?
 
it's better now
this video is ancient
the cat is still alive, by the way
 
Hmm, should I go to a pub or not?
 
Don't know — never did it myself…
 
How old are you again?
 
8:25 PM
23
 
How have you never been to a pub?
 
The same as I never had a girlfriend.
Only a girl had me. Not the other way round.
I'm too introverted
 
Isn't that bidirectional?
 
it is, but someone must initiate this
and I can't
 
It will get better.
Why not travel for a bit?
 
8:28 PM
I was thinking about this
May be…
 
Leave an people will initiate conversations with you.
Hostels are awesome.
And you can also work while you travel, being a programmer.
Fuck, I should do it, but I have wifi now, so I can't just fuck off for a year.
 
if work takes not a whole day, then it's certainly the way to go
but I can't do it right now, because the serious business is too serious
 
Work always takes as much as you let it.
 
golden words!
 
If I'll go tonight, I will have to force myself too. But once there I am sure it will be good, then coming home will suck.
 
9:00 PM
Going to a pub alone?
 
There's a meetup going on there..
But the closer it's getting to the time I am supposed to leave the less likely it is I will actually go.
 
9:16 PM
Meetup at the docks :)
 
Almost, it's all the way in Brooklyn.
Or I can just stay here and do nothing again.
 
You have a car?
 
Nope
 
So taxi it is?
 
I'd have to take public transport and it would take me over an hour.
Taxi would be around $70, I am poor, and cheap.
:)
 
9:26 PM
for which distance you pay $70
 
Around 12km. But the expensive part would be tolls and time probably, actual distance not so much.
 
Getting back also with public transport?
I mean, how safe is that after midnight
 
Going back I'd probably take a cab at least part of the way.
But I don't think I will go.
Immigrating somewhere sucks, right?
 
Well, I think that I have only one bus after midnight here in Ljubljana. After 1am there is nothing.
 
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