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12:04 AM
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emmanuel!
what's up?
 
how are you doing?
 
12:33 AM
sorry just went afk
there is a rap beef going on in germany
so many angry people lol
funny to watch
the most hated guy just dropped his diss track
but yeah, doing good and you?
where've you been the days? how's the startup life?
 
12:53 AM
it is going
lot of work, but it is getting better
 
don't overwork yourself dude
how much do you work per day?
 
a ton
I would say a minimum of 10hrs per day
 
more than qph?
wow
 
it is getting better though
qph?
 
sorry meant to write 10h*
 
12:59 AM
oh
 
is the app already in beta?
 
Android is
 
or when's the first test release?
 
we are waiting for iOS
 
can I test? :0
 
1:00 AM
you will, I will let you know when I upload the apk
 
:D
 
1:51 AM
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Q: How to add date to android calender?

NevaehHow to add the below date in android calender ?I tried converting my date string to SimpleDateFormat.But i still don't know how to add this as beginTime. 2014-11-24 16:25:55+0530 Somebody please help... String strDate = "2014-11-24 16:25:55+0530"; ...

The best indentation in the story ..
 
 
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3:50 AM
heyo
 
 
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5:34 AM
Bleh
 
6:10 AM
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6:41 AM
Yo People
Yay! I have got noted by mods here ^^
 
 
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8:41 AM
o/
 
9:17 AM
Yo Ahmad
Ahmad, How can I get space for showing my product info on wikipedia ?
 
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berserk-san!
 
baby-kun!
 
9:50 AM
Never Mind! I got it, Ahmad!
 
 
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11:55 AM
yo
sorry went to sleep again
 
o/
 
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@gaetanmaisse Welcome, please read the roollm rules.
room rules*
whups, typo.
 
12:16 PM
hey all
 
hey
 
0/
 
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1:56 PM
the mockingjay song from lorde is awesome.
 
 
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4:55 PM
@Abdellah edited
 
I've seen worse
much worse
this
this was the worst code I've seen on stack overflow
maybe there was something else, but from the top of my head. that's really awful.
 
and I've seen some C++ code.
 
shivers
 
5:10 PM
the project was done in something like Borland C++ builder, the dreaded C++ compiler
 
Borland sucks
 
there were concurrent routines, done by using critical sections, and this shit frequently produced deadlocks
fortunately, this was sort of a top-secret project, so there's zero chance to see its parts on StackOverflow :)
oh, and as far as I know they didn't use git, or any other VCS
and another sad story: some guys attempted to implement real-time audio communication tool in Java
 
LOL
 
real-time and Java don't generally mix well
 
what kind of top secret project was that? lol
 
5:16 PM
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o/
 
@Ahmad maybe it has something to do with russian FSS, but I can't be sure, and of course I can't tell what did it really do, or I will have big problems
but what I can say is that as long as it has such code quality, it will hardly do any harm to people… and that's good :D
 
lolol
 
I wonder, does anyone else use Borland tools today?
By the way, they did something for Android recently, too
 
ohgodno
never
 
5:23 PM
>Leverage your Delphi and C++ language skills, knowledge and source code to get to mobile
>Develop for Android, iOS, Windows and OS X using a single IDE with a single framework
>Create true native compiled Android and iOS apps from a single codebase
How that is going to be native?
There's some "magic", or it's a big lie?
 
cross platform solutions are usually a lie
I did some stuff with Borlands delphi
never again
had to do it for school
such an awful experience
 
I use Xamarin at work
 
Xamarin seems not as horrible as some
 
yep, recently it became somewhat tolerable
but there's still no working profiler for android, for example
and debugger can't attach to existing process
some other non-obvious problems arise, if you want to do something not very trivial…
I wouldn't use it for my own stuff, I think
 
Lol, I just want them to put these quotes on their website
"Xamarin seems not as horrible as some" ~ Noah
"recently it became somewhat tolerable" ~ Sarge
 
5:30 PM
and the "learn only one language (C#)" is of course a lie, although some people thought like this
 
I used C# for a Unity game, pretty nice
 
I heard some good stuff about xamarin
 
for games this is a different story maybe… you probably don't deal with Android's UI toolkit, or Services
 
it's basically just the whole framework, back ported for c# right?
 
it's Mono + .NET bindings for platform API
on Android, this is funny, because of garbage collection
some people tell, it works…
sometimes it's possible that an object is collected before it is really eligible for garbage collection
(this is improving over time)
and it's even possible to inherit from Java classes in C#, but if you have lots of such objects, you will suffer
but the fact that it works at all is a miracle, I think :D
 
5:44 PM
wow
you can actually inherit from java classes? o.0
that is magic...
> Receiving objects: 69% (1870/2684), 4.52 MiB | 24.00 KiB/s
github is really slow today wtf
 
yes… there are some obscure limitations, though (as always)
if we couldn't, then we couldn't inherit from Activity, for example
for such classes, Xamarin generates some special java classes that are tied to corresponding .NET classes
 
Ahh I see
 
and such objects are hard to GC, because it must also track, if the object on the Java side can be collected, for example
(by Java side I mean Dalvik or ART)
and it must prevent Java GC from collecting objects that are still used in .NET side
I have a feeling that compiling C# to Android bytecode could be easier, maybe I'm wrong
 
would that be even possible?
 
o/
 
5:51 PM
\o
 
today's mission: get my RPi working to auto-download series from a RSS feed
 
some features that are not present in Java bytecode can be emulated somehow, maybe
for example, generic classes can have an auxiliary field that stores type parameters…
instead of value types, just use final immutable classes
 
what are you building gui?
 
I'm running Raspbmc, it already has Deluge (torrent client)
 
dynamic may be done via reflection (although it will be a lot slower that way)
 
5:54 PM
true, sarge, but it just sounds like an insanely huge project
Lol, thought so gui ;)
 
I'm reading about something called Flexget that I think will be able to handle the RSS part
 
yep, and current Xamarin stuff is huge, too
 
then I think I can generate my RSS on Traktv
do you have any recommendation?
 
oh, I recalled, in Java bytecode there's `invokedynamic`?
it is supported on any Android versions? :D
 
yesterday I realized that I can command Rasbpmc using my TV's remote, that's so cool
 
6:11 PM
Sarge (y) for the edit
o/
 
what does (y) mean?
 
12k views but no upvotes and 2 answers?!
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Q: meta name="viewport" content="width=device-width" Is not working with Kendo UI Mobile

RobI am using Kendo UI Mobile framework and I have a min-width: 768px css class assigned to one of my views because I have table data that cant be compressed anymore. The view shows correctly on a iPad, but when I look at in a 7" Android Tablet, the view has Horizontal scrolling. I need the view to ...

 
sometimes up votes are psycho
 
6:31 PM
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if you were to do that Jon, the compiler will automatically convert it... — Emmanuel 2 mins ago
@XaverKapeller you have write access. Please read and follow the rules
 
I already installed all Network (6 files) drivers and WLAN still unavailable ...
 
6:47 PM
o/
 
is it possible to uninstall an application without toasting its data (settings, etc.)?
I want to try installing another version, which is signed with different key, but keep all data
and I have root, if that matters
 
@SargeBorsch afaik you can't
 
oh, I got an idea! I will use different device.
thank you :)
 
Does Chrome automatically convert RSS feeds into readable html?
 
If by convert you mean format the XML in a human readable manner than yes.
 
7:05 PM
@NoahHuppert Sometimes
 
Right, I got a tad confused
oooo, Google Code In starts soon
 
7:29 PM
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ha ha
 
harhar they build the first Pastafari church worldwide in Germany! :D
They made a "Nudelmesse" (aka Pasta-Con :))
 
user image
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sweet
 
 
 
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9:03 PM
So I just invested an hour checking Flow and Mortar and I realize that I will not use it in any real project....
bad documentation, under heavy development and they are far from "easy to use"
so I can remove both libraries from my "check if useful" list...
 
9:36 PM
yeah they are really experimental
 
My biggest problem with libraries like this is that they try to reinvent the wheel in some sense. Instead of dealing with Fragments and Activities you are just dealing with Views directly and those Views have their own separate backstack. It just doesn't seem that clean.
 
and basically nobody except the square team uses it
and since they built it they know how it works
true xaver
but on the other hand
fragments and activities have an even more complicated life cycle
views are the most basic thing
 
indeed
 
Warren :D
o/
 
I try to get my stuff done with only views and as few activities as possible (with no fragments! :D)
hey Abdellah!
I am honestly confused about the support libs... I have a small personal app to test some material design stuff and I don't care about API <21
biggest question: what kind of support libs I still need :)
 
9:42 PM
Well that's true, but it's not like those lifecycle are that complicated just for the fun of it. Everything is their for a reason and when dealing just with Views I would be concerned with all the stuff that is hidden behind this oversimplification. Personally I don't consider the lifecycle of Activity or Fragment that complicated ;)
 
anyway, my wife should be back from work any minute... so I am afk/away
 
later warren
Xaver: oohh well, the activity and fragment cycle can be very weird
really really weird
I remember this devoxx talk from romain guy where he said that everybody that says he understands the fragment and acticity life cycle is lying
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because even they don't completely understand it
 
I have an a3 print from Activity and Fragment lifecycle and I do not understand them totally
beside the life cycle, you also have to deal with async operations...
a fragment is attached asynchronously
 
this one?
I want an A3 poster of this lol
 
I think I know what you mean. But in my opinion that's not the fault of the Activities or Fragments. The lifecycle of both is pretty well documented in the documentation but the problem is that there are some cases where those life cycles are not that well respected by other components.
Or at least there are a lot of ways you can unknowingly mess them up ;D
 
9:50 PM
yeah, this one Ahmad
I have yet failed to find a dev who says he has no real fragment issues anymore...
 
any one use tinypng.com for android
a friend (android dev) of mine give it to me
when I talk with him about OOM Exception
in some devices
 
I use Picasso which works like charm and is easy to use
 
Xaver: You see, it's all fine and good that they are well documented and all, but like you said, I, as a developer don't care if they are documented if the documentation says something else and something else happens
not all the time, but there just simply are these edge cases
 
Warren, so Picasso avoid OOM ?
 
shrinking images on disk has no, absolutely no benefit for the image size in memory
 
9:57 PM
really?
 
sure, the memory used is defined by pixel quality and pixel amount
 
that what I know
 
wow TIL
I didn't know that
 
RGB_565 uses less memory than RGB_888 but the pixel amount is the same
 
HxLx2
 
9:59 PM
@TeRRo Welcome. Please read the room rules.
 
a 1024x768 jpg can be 10kb big on disc but in memory you have 1024x768xPixelquality
jpg is a compression, bitmaps in memory aren't compressed in any way
 
png Pixelquality > jpg Pixelquality, right ?
 
:/
 
afaik you can configure both formats
and you decide with BitmapOptions how you decode the image
you can pass low quality to save memory, use RGB_565 for example
but gradients will look ugly
 
10:03 PM
I get OOM with android:background
you see Warren
 
if you get OOME when inflating layouts, you have some serious memory leak in your app
you should check if you have some context leaking in your app
 
I found that the image is very big
 
apropos memory leaks
that's a really good read: androiddesignpatterns.com/2013/04/…
 
when I down scale it the problem gone
 
define "very big"
 
10:07 PM
H=1024 , W = 512
 
that is not that big
in general I would try to prevent using bitmaps as backgrounds in general
they are barely visible because of the content, they scale badly and they are just a waste of memory
 
Indeed
 
you could and should try to replace it with a solid color or a slight gradient (what ever you show there anyway)
 
sometimes really no way
 
is the top image a background?
 
10:15 PM
nope, LV (courses) -> fragment (course introduction)
 
so my wife decided to stalk a bit on Tom Hanks...
nice...
he is doing a movie somewhere near us and obviously does a scene at this hour...
 
LOL
 
you mean she watch a movie ..
 
no
I guess he's shooting a scene
 
10:18 PM
yeah
 
woow
with Tom Hanks
 
obviously a spy movie located in the sixties
seems to be related to this information: brooklynheightsblog.com/archives/70239
 
10:35 PM
@Emmanuel yo, you there?
 
yeah
 
still haven't got your mail :s
 
no way
 
really weird lol
 
Merkel man....Merkel...
 
10:37 PM
I know she looks like a man, but she is a woman, really!
 
LOL
 
btw, last year I was in an pre-employment training and I have build an app .. actually I want to make it open source with the same name that the company give it (EVERGA) also I haven't signed any paper ? bit.ly/1d603ms
is it legal ?
 
using the company name probably not
 
@PetrDuchek Welcome. Please read the room rules.
 
The question are the rules of the training
you should see if they prohibit anything with stuff that was done there
 
10:40 PM
but I haven't signed any paper ?
 
you have probably signed something to join the training, right?
even a simple registration should be enough that some terms & conditions are "accepted"
my wife finally arrives.
enjoy the night!
 
seeya warren
 
cya!
 
Project Budget 5 000 € .. S**t they give me 750 € for three months
I think Morocco 100%
it is time for the Snatch movie ..
 
10:57 PM
That moment that you send a support request to delete your account and then immediately figure out how to fix your issue without deleting your account....
 
11:10 PM
deleting an account? wat
what issue where you having and with what
 
Mortar and Flow do seem overly complex
(late to the convo)
 
'Could you fax over a copy?' 'No, I can't fax because of where I live' 'Where do you live?' 'The 21st century'
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11:49 PM
that feeling when someones whatsapp status is online but doesn't answer
I am usually on the other side
 
Google Hangouts commandeered my SMS messaging. How do I get SMS messages back into the "Messaging" app?
 

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