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12:11 AM
lol
 
12:29 AM
\O
 
o/ morning guys
 
Fuck yeah I'm a software developer. spends an hour editing images in Gimp
 
o/
I hate gimp
 
Startups.
Haha. I don't have no stinkin' Photoshop so it's my only option!
 
Ah, that sucks
 
12:40 AM
ahahha
 
I actually didn't mind gimp then didn't use it for awhile and it seemed a lot of things changed to be more complicated than they needed to be
I think I'm going to propose again Monday that they get me what I need to learn and write iOS instead of outsourcing it
 
you need a macbook and a month
 
Our designer has Photoshop (obviously) but we just contract her part time, so she's not here all the time. Our marketer has Photoshop, but she's somewhere in the States right now. A couple of my co-ops have Photoshop but they buggered off home a couple of hours ago.
So I need these assets and... there's really nothing else for it.
This is true^.
 
Just a month, Dave? I would have had a macbook and a testing device by now but my "boss" told the big dogs it was too much to learn. wut!
 
Hardly.
I watched like the first 6 Stanford lectures
Pretty much a pro
 
12:46 AM
They had me sign up for ios development training, it turned out my company lied.
 
iOS is easy and there's tons of documentation
 
stanford lectures for what?
 
I'm able to teach myself on the fly without any prior experience or learning materials using just the mac and google
 
iOS development
You can get them through iTunes University for free
 
And what's the deal with companies looking for both android and ios in one. Last person I worked with fucks up the android flow
 
12:46 AM
So, knowing Java well and obviously Android it shouldn't be a problem, right?
 
They have a very different way of thinking about stuff
But as soon as you know the syntax (which is probably the hardest part) it's all just programming.
 
yeah you know all the basic concepts, the workflow is a bit different and you'll have to get used to using storyboards
 
I prefer Android, but I know Android better.
 
@LawGimenez yeah why does your previous company want both platform for development
 
but it's basically the same MVC
same adam
 
12:47 AM
are they looking for some SUPER MAN
 
I do both, I guess I am super man, but I'm also our only developer.
 
Well you should demand for high paycheck
 
We've had some pretty big companies want iOS to sign a contract with us so we looked at outsourcing. I told them we still will need someone for updates and my Android app is pretty much finished at the moment
 
I get to work with my friends, miss days due to being hungover np and I got a 5% stake in the company.
 
I'm our only mobile dev too, Dave
One founder is all about getting me a mac but, as I said, my "boss", the goldenboy, said it would be too much
Fuck, I learned Android on the job
 
12:50 AM
Same here @codeMagic
 
yeah iOS is easier to learn than Android, if I hadn't had Qt experience already Android would have been much harder.
 
Im the only Android dev, the other dude I dont consider him one.
 
I told them $1500 and I would have what I need to learn and we piss more than that out evevryday on bullshit
 
we got a $450 used iMac and it's more than enough.
 
Now I'm debating on having a serious talk with my boss about it or just going above his head
 
12:52 AM
from my experience outsourcing, it's worth fighting to get it done in house, argue that it's both a better profit margin and better quality for the $
the initial investment to get you experience in it is small.
It also sets you up to competently lead both sides of development if you grow.
 
That there is a big think I've been thinking about
So, the main question is...
2 mins ago, by codeMagic
Now I'm debating on having a serious talk with my boss about it or just going above his head
 
try talking with your boss and if he's not responsive to it then go above him and bring up your concerns about why he's not taking you seriously.
 
I have brought it up with him a couple times but good advice. I will give it one more try
 
alright later guys
 
See ya, Dave
 
1:02 AM
o/ bye dave
 
 
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mcd
3:19 AM
@codeMagic same here i am the only android devloper in my company and all others are ios. they alos give me mac . now they expecting from me to learn ios .
 
well you guys need to request for another raise
 
How does one go about requesting a raise?
 
4:00 AM
Tell em you have an interview with the competitor
 
Tell them that someones gonna hire you If they don't raise your sallary
 
Well, I have a video demo for my Android Coursera capstone project finally...
 
 
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6:28 AM
Yo people!
 
o/ Naruto kun
 
6:47 AM
Yo Cjames-san
 
The bible punchline in the latest C&H Show... lololololol
 
 
2 hours later…
8:44 AM
Morning!
 
Yo Abdellah
 
Yo Yo Naru
How are you ?
 
fine so far. You ?
 
Fine too :)
@AdamS any information about Adelpha Tech ?
 
9:02 AM
\o
 
o/ bb
 
how are you doing
 
fine and you ?
 
same old same old
 
labor language is English .. What is your English level ?
my reply is :
- Technical English: 9/10
- Writing: 8/10
- Communication: 7/10
:|
 
9:15 AM
and ?
 
bb, I'm right or lying ?
with this proportion
 
what proportion ?
 
9/10 8/10 7/10
 
I see
what does 10 mean?
 
9:21 AM
hey everybody
 
hey Den
 
hi Den
 
just posted this. Hope someone has experienced something alike :(((
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Q: Translate animation created programmatically has incorrect duration and offset

Den RimusI've faced a strange f#ck-up during trying to animate several views at once. Here's what needs to be done: I have a top bar with 3 buttons. Two on the right are pressable and nothing interesting about them. The left one replaces all three buttons with other three. With animation: middle and right...

 
10 : english advanced level
 
is 10 native speaker ?
 
9:23 AM
yes, we can said that ..
it's why I write - Communication: 7/10
 
are you moving in England ?
or are thinking to move in england ?
Tannk you very much! Have a nice day!
 
nope, just an invitation to an interview (Adelpha Tech) the job location will be based in morocco .. he ask me about my english level
 
Morning
 
no you are not lying
 
Morning Pedro
 
9:30 AM
\o
 
Ok thanks bb
 
sure
 
he asks me about salary expectations ?
 
are you asking me if they asked you your salary expectations ?
 
that bullshit talk about "how much to you expect to receive"....
I always say "I want 10k/month, but since you're not able to pay me that tell how much you're willing to pay me."
 
9:34 AM
\o
 
he is already ask me and I am asking you :)
o/
 
\o
 
Hi Warren
 
Pedro, lol
 
I dunno, just ask them 30-40 % more than what you are getting, and put the word negotiable next to the number
 
9:35 AM
@Abdellah just do not tell numbers.
 
yeap I see
Thank you to add me on Skype for a test + interview this week. Skype ID: xx
 
say that you are expecting a salary that most firms give for that kind of a job.
 
can I not agree Tech test
I dislike it from my heart
netpork (y)
the hard question ... What is your availability?
*salary expectations ?*
*The salary that your company paid for this kind of position*
 
9:58 AM
@Abdellah "the first who gives a number, loses"
 
I will not give it so ;)
 
10:17 AM
o/
 
\o
 
10:33 AM
What is your availability?
According to the negotiation with the company I'm currently
 
3 devs and the biggest parallel branch count was 11.... I think we make stuff too complicated here :D
 
You mean "when can you start working with us?"
 
yeah
 
Well that depends. Here in Portugal we have to warn the company 1 month upfront that we're firing ourselves
 
10:55 AM
in my contract works the notice periods isn't fixed and I just check the Moroccan labor code said this :
The employment contract of indefinite duration may stop by the will of
the employer, subject to the provisions of this section and those of the
Section III below regarding notice period.
The indefinite employment contract may stop by the will of the employee
by resignation signed legalized by the competent authority. the
employee is kept for that purpose by the provisions laid down in Section III below
 
11:09 AM
You may need to ask someone about that. Normally people who you talk to on the interview (HR) know that stuff and can advise you.
 
I will do thanks pedro
I am wokring with FancyCoverFlow Lib sample when I set the IV to onClick the horizontal scroll work only outside the IV
without the onClick the horizontal scroll work also when the scroll is into the IV
is it possible to make them work both ?
 
11:29 AM
posted on November 27, 2014 by Lucas Rocha

I am really excited to announce that I’m joining Facebook. I start in January next year. I’ll be bootstrapping Android UI efforts—frameworks and user-facing stuff—in the London office. There are still a lot of details to sort out but that’s the general plan. Why Facebook? They have an amazing hacker-driven culture, they’re striving to do […]

 
11:41 AM
for real? he's leaving mozilla to join facebook?
pff
you don't just leave a well paid workplace where you get paid to work on open source stuff to join facebook
 
maybe he will "optimize facebook for Firefox" to push people towards using Firefox more :P
 
he says he'll be working on their shitty android app
2014 and still it's lacking behind the iOS app
 
who cares about facebook?!
 
I think, these people care:
 
^^
I heard you can create "Thank you" videos on facebook now.... so literally who cares about that shit?
what a brainless fucking idea
 
11:53 AM
I will tell you more, russian clone "VK" has filters for people search for years, and facebook doesn't have it (or it's well hidden?)
 
har har har
 
so they certainly have obviously needed features to do, and yet they waste time on something questionable
 
12:31 PM
The Bielefeld Conspiracy is a satire of conspiracy theories that originated in 1994 in the German Usenet, which claims that the city of Bielefeld does not actually exist, but is an illusion propagated by various forces. Originally an internet phenomenon, the conspiracy has since been represented in the city's marketing, and referred to by Chancellor Angela Merkel. == Synopsis == The story goes that the city of Bielefeld (population of 323,076 as of 2011) in the German state of North Rhine-Westphalia does not actually exist. Rather, its existence is merely propagated by an entity known only as THEM...
lol wat
never heard of that before
 
o/
 
\o
 
o/
 
\o
 
Bielefeld doesn't exist
 
12:45 PM
even people vom Bielefeld never heard of that....
 
 
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1:46 PM
The more I watch Peep Show, the more I believe that I'm in fact Mark Corrigan
 
2:13 PM
@Abdellah Naw no idea, they're in downtown Toronto
@Ahmad Errr. Pretty sure Facebook also meets that description!
:P
 
Thanks for the reply Adam :)
 
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A: Trying to remove fragment from view gives me NullPointerException on mNextAnim

Gerald KaszubaI know you've solved this yourself, but I want to explain how this error happens, since it just happened to me. Basically you're calling hide(), remove(), etc., with a null value. The error isn't obvious, and the stack trace doesn't originate from your own sources when this happens, so it's not...

What a bloody useless error message
No worries Abdellah, let me know if you have any questions about anyone else - I might know them!
 
\o mornin'
 
I will do with pleasure :)
o/ jlin
 
Germans have gone nuts again
 
2:25 PM
their HQ is in Austria!
 
it looks like a galaxy that someone cut the corners off....
 
The hexagon phone
nice ..
 
380USD? How are they making money off this thing with those specs??
 
the answer is secrete ..
 
2:41 PM
@jlindenbaum probably it is really cheap do make this phone in china.
 
Apple does ~38% profit margin on an iPhone, at a scale of 30m devices a quarter. I can't see these guys having a sustainable profit margin at 380USD at a low production scale
We will see, I guess.
 
3:03 PM
@adam not sure if fb does open source ansroid stuff. Do they? I know they open sourced their php based lang and some other neat tool, but never heard of some android stuff
 
Sure, but they're clearly not anti-open source
Lucas linked to this in his blog: youtube.com/watch?v=fzL6Zoy_ndk
 
Sure, didn't mean to say that
 
You're right about no open Android stuff, though.
I did think they had some stuff...
 
github.com/facebook nothing for android ..
 
I think they open sourced some adb tools
Everytime Dropbox fails to sync for me, I remember to be thankful for all the illustrators they hired to make their support pages look nice.
 
3:21 PM
Datacenter 1 Uptime: 94.6% Datacenter 2 Uptime: 92.0% Cloud Sales Rep: "We have 186.6% Uptime."
 
hi
 
Yo TGM
 
3:36 PM
o/
 
\o
 
o/ cM
 
bye o/
 
see ya
 
So if I want a drop shadow on an asset pre-Lollipop, I have to supply it as part of the asset. If I want it in Lollipop, I can specify z-ordering. Except I already have the shadow assets sooo...
 
3:47 PM
wow look at this json form draft: w3.org/TR/html-json-forms
yeah I think it was difficult to backport that iirc
 
it is indeed nice
 
I... I don't even? how do you even respond to this
 
this post nearly got me to make an account just to downvote this shit
The binary nickname guy is "Stulle" .... was für ein rotz! reddit.com/r/de/comments/2nkhp5/…
 
can someone give a tl;dr of the post(s)?
 
is it a good idea to learn German language just for fun? (or another foreign language, for that matter) (as long as I have very little free time)
 
The topic is that immigrants are a benefit for our government cash (for social stuff) but the first guy claims that the germans are afraid of dark skin color but is too afraid to discuss it honestly
 
4:12 PM
 
German is hard to learn I heard...
 
btw, not mine
 
I still try to catch up on that topic
 
thanks for the translation warren
 
so basically racist shit
 
4:14 PM
@WarrenFaith even if the immigrant is a freelancer? (not dark skin color also)
 
Is the guy who said that German?
Ahmad, are you afraid of dark skin color people? ;)
 
Ahmad is the worst I heard! :D
 
Hahahaha!
 
I heard today that 1/3 of our employees are "non-German"
I didn't realized it was that much and I literally don't care
 
Are they all on-site or do you have a lot of remote workers?
 
4:16 PM
in our 7 person office room we have 3: french, south korea and portugese
we have no real remote workers
 
gotchya
 
http://kusskuss.com/post/11110411666/your-freelance-visa-for-germany-europe
There is a cool story about getting a visa for all kinds of freelancers for immigrating into Germany, the easy way. How true is it?
 
Trying to decide if this app is worth continuing. It would require me to get a spotify premium account and anyone who used it would need one to play music through it...
Why can't anyone give me access to their shit for free? Jerks...that's why
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@SargeBorsch when beethoven (not the dog, the composer) was asked is he a land owner, he replied "no, I am a brain owner" ...
 
@Abdel denied for low A:Q ratio and only using chat for support. Go be more helpful and come back
FYI: Spotify doesn't work for Linux
 
4:43 PM
@sarge wow never heard of that freelance visa before
that's really neat
 
by the way, I can't find the poster's contacts
there's just tumblr link :/
 
codeMagic - rdio? More pretty and better than Spotify IMHO.
apparently a nice API
 
Never heard of it but will check it out, thanks
 
Ahmad, r/de is full of weirdos, the internet brings out the most ridiculous of opinions. haha
cM, bigger selection, better stations, prettier apps, <3 rdio.
 
@Ahmad you are already in Germany, right?
 
4:46 PM
It looks like I might be able to play music using the sdk without a paid account. That will be sweet if so
I usually use pandora to listen but I started playing with spotify because I wanted to create an app using it but I'm not sure if it will work with needing a premium account
 
@sarge yep
jlindenbaum: true that!
 
Ahmad, did you read about that Duisburg re-vote?
 
haha no, what's that?
Up until today I didn't even know about this duisburg conspiracy
oh wait. now I'm mixing up things.
it was Bielefeld
4 hours ago, by Ahmad
The Bielefeld Conspiracy is a satire of conspiracy theories that originated in 1994 in the German Usenet, which claims that the city of Bielefeld does not actually exist, but is an illusion propagated by various forces. Originally an internet phenomenon, the conspiracy has since been represented in the city's marketing, and referred to by Chancellor Angela Merkel. == Synopsis == The story goes that the city of Bielefeld (population of 323,076 as of 2011) in the German state of North Rhine-Westphalia does not actually exist. Rather, its existence is merely propagated by an entity known only as THEM...
what's with duisburg?
 
Lol I was born in Detmold, I can guarantee you Bielefeld exists hahah.
 
LOL
> The theory posits three questions:

Do you know anybody from Bielefeld?
Have you ever been to Bielefeld?
Do you know anybody who has ever been to Bielefeld?
I don't believe you. you are part of the conspiracy!
 
4:55 PM
i have been to bielefeld. haha
 
LIES!
 
but you won't believe me, because i am just spreading the lie for THEM.
 
:D
them bielefeld illuminatis
 
Anyone know Any open source project That Implement this :
 
Anways, one of the wards in Duisburg got a re-vote, something went wrong counting them.. Guess 10k people live there, only 1000 can vote, only 128 people showed up to vote, 25% or something voted NPD.
 
4:58 PM
0.o
seriously? oh my god. this is horrible.
unfortunately extremists are very politically active.
 
SPD won it, someone commented "thank god for for the lefty retirees never changing their voting patterns"
 
well there is also a fraud in voting an CDU guy somewhere
someone manipulated the letter votings
 
that was the reason for the do over?
might explain why they only got 10% :P
 
i'm just shocked that of 10,000 people in the ward, only 1,000 are allowed/registered to vote, and only 128 showed up. 1.2% of citizens determined the politics of that ward. That's crazy.
 
5:04 PM
I know right?
 
Ha, krass.
 
why are there so many young people in this region?
that's really overdisproportional
 
German collection of vote fraud across the globe: rupp.de/briefwahl_einspruch/briefwahl_wahlbetrug.html
 
it couldn't be because of people with non-german nationality. If I recall correctly people with a residence permit are allowed to vote in communal elections as well
 
That ward has 50% immigrants, i assume most of them aren't allowed to vote.. my mom's a canadian permanent resident in germany for 38 years now, can't vote. ever.
my step dad is from the UK, he can vote - probably an EU thing?
 
5:07 PM
hmm weird
 
he can vote for regional stuff
 
Wow, that sucks.
 
I just realized i'm the only one in my family with german papers.
 
I can't vote as a PR in Canada (when I get PR).
 
but I doubt he can vote for German government
 
5:07 PM
I still vote in NZ though! :D
 
vote for kim dotcom! (or actually don't lol)
 
i don't get why people with PR can't vote in the country they now call home - let them be part of the damned process.
LOL fucking kim.
 
rofl fuck no
 
didn't he drag this other party down with him as well?
 
i'm just gonna take my two passports and vote in two countries.. suckaaaaahs.
new life goal, acquire many citizenships.
 
5:08 PM
that fucker stole their seat in the parliament
 
That party was a shambles and was a huge win for the incumbent govt - it stole loads of votes from the left wing parties that could've been a coalition threat. Though the incumbent still won by miles, so maybe not that much of a threat.
The left is in pretty bad disarray in NZ atm, and the Internet Party only added to that.
:shrug: Our right wing parties are fairly far left compared to many countries.
Anyway, I just opened Keynote for the first time. How do I use this thing
 
Argh Robospice
Our old app is built on top of Robospice.
Built wrongly on top of it.
It would work well for certain scenarios, but not for our app. Definitely not for ours.
 
what are you using now ?
 
Ahh I see
ha ha ha. Sorry german content again:
 
5:17 PM
We've built a custom system that moves the network calls entirely away from the UI lifecycle
UI <--> DB <--> Network
 
Ahmad you are breaking the rules :P
 
I am the rules. This is not a democracy here.
 
nice ok I see Adam.
JK :D
Adam, what is the senario that Robospice will note work for ?
 
codeMagic has kick muted Ahmad. He may not talk for 2 minutes
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@AdamS wow just opened it for the first time as well. it's a bit confusing, but have you ever used powerpoint on mac? it's a PITA
this on the other hand looks just really awesome
lol cM
 
5:24 PM
Anyone know what " tipped the class correctly" means?
Hmm....maybe he meant "typed"?
 
maybe the class did a good job and deserved a tip
2
 
:D
Ahmad, Warren, and Jlind should have known...
Yes phillip autocomplete was in german mode.. — Mike 28 secs ago
:D
 
It reminds of the good old troll "did he dieded" going on the webz
 
Sometimes I look at my app's code and wish I'd start it from scratch again. Then I realize that I'd need to code all those kludges again.
 
user image
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by the way, did ANSI C talk about objectification of women?
 
5:32 PM
I think it's about object oriented programming
 
I thought the same until I heard about this bizarre topic
 
does your country lacks feminist groups?
how haven't you heard of it?
 
I don't know nor care about their groups, but (recently) I had a conversation with a girl who certainly is a feminist
 
or she thinks she is
 
yep, exactly
she thinks that men are guilty of the fact that women "bite" each other for social status, appearance, etc (yes, almost literally like this, I just tried to translate it from russian)
I couldn't figure out why it's true
is it OK?
 
5:40 PM
@Abdellah Well Robospice works on the idea that most network requests you make can be cached - so you run a request, rotate the Activity, then just run the request again and received the cached response. The problem for our use case was that a) often a request is new and we have no connectivity, b) we assume all data is immediately stale (this is a bad assumption and one we could've fixed fairly simply but eh I wasn't here for that), c) because of a & b, we turned all caching off...
...which is the entire point of using Robospice in the first place.
All of this was built before I arrived.
 
are you russian?
 
[unfortunately] yes
 
@Ahmad Haha it's more I haven't made a slideshow presentation since high school.
 
LOL then this is going to be fun ^^
 
may then I assume that a large part of the russians haven't heard about women objectification too?
 
5:42 PM
I think, you are right
 
then it explains a lot
 
for example?
 
explains why those russian feminist groups we see on the news are so radical
they're fighting for something that the population have no idea about, so they need to be radical
I don't know if local news talk about them in russia
 
frankly, I don't check out local news in russia
 
(that doesn't mean all they are fighting for is correct)
 
5:53 PM
odds are, it's [mostly] incorrect.
at least, when I attempted trolling some feminists, they didn't reply with sensible logical explanations of their statements…
maybe it's specific to russia, though.
 
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