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12:11 AM
I'm back!
 
wb
 
I was busy playing Maze Craze. Space invaders, Breakout, teaching my daughter Adventure!
Hey @Justin
 
@Joe'sMorgue @Gemtastic 'ello folks :)
 
Hello Justin
 
Watched my daughter playing Pac-Man…She didn't do too well...
 
12:18 AM
I tried to play pacman once... but I'm too much of a glutton for that game.
 
LOL
My son bought me an Atari 2600 over the weekend
 
12:35 AM
@Joe'sMorgue isn't that some really old stuff ?? :)
where could he find it ?
 
A "garage sale"...
Such a cool console…Got more games for that than all my other consoles combined
 
wow...
@Joe'sMorgue . am happy for you... :-)
 
Then again, it was the dominant console longer than all others
 
I remember I kept breaking joysticks, until I decided to use them while broken, remove the handle and top cover, and control the game by pressing the metal bars for up/down/right/left and action... :)
am sure I am not the only one who has done that.. :D
 
:) I liked swapping the wires around so the button needs to be held in the top right position.
 
12:56 AM
now you made me really angry.. I want to try that.. but my console is back home, and I can never find one over here.. :((((((
I guess I have to wait for Christmas vacation, then try that when I go home.... :(
 
I have a SEGA master system II, that's as retro as I've ever been the owner of.
 
I had a 2600 when they were new
 
I wasn't even in production when they were new :P
 
I'm OLD…Remember that...
 
I played atari till I got crazy in the 1990's ... :)
 
1:02 AM
Yes, and I was reminding you that I'm only semi-old ;P
I'm no cute little protégé like Uni, but I'm no Joe either ;P
 
you're not that Lucky Gem :)
 
I'm super old :(
@mlwn Ever used any of javas security features?
 
@Justin in your 60s?
 
@Gemtastic All the tutorials and docs I find are overly simplified!
Lol no I'm 23
 
Lol I'm older than you XD
 
1:04 AM
Nuh uh
 
And I can't believe I just typed "LoL"
Even though I did
 
I type Lol alot. I'm cool like that. It's like, totally the hip thing to do.
 
@Justin Mother of god! We need to go deeper! Javaception
 
:o
Down here, 5 minutes is like 3 days in the real world.
 
Gem... go there.. and try to see how it felt those days...
:)
LOL
hehehehehe
 
1:06 AM
Deep down into under the hood action. But once you enter binary, there's no turning back!
 
I entered javas security manager :( I think that's deeper :(
 
@Justin, am not really sure about the security features.. you want to enlighten me about something please ?
 
@mlwn SecurityManager and Policy
 
@mlwn I have played those games, I just haven't owned the machine myself :P
 
where did you play them ?
some emulator ?
 
1:07 AM
It lets you allow/deny certain potentially dangerous methods from being run within a specific codebase.
 
wow.. please tell me about it @Justin
 
@mlwn Google it.
 
Normally I compile java with javac... and run the class with java... :)
I don't even use a proper IDE
I write code with emacs..
reading below
 
@mlwn I played them at a friend's house, or several friends, their dads had one each.
I think my dad had one too but my brother broke it before I was born.
 
that's cool..
maybe atari kept your dad away from your mom for several hours..
:)
 
1:11 AM
Nah, he mostly spent time with his beloved cars
 
the only way was to break it.. otherwise, you wouldn't be here today.. :)
 
facepalm
 
Either way, noone can blame him for trying to get away from her :P
I'd be here either way though; I'm a "Let's have another kid and see if that'll fix our marriage" kinda baby. So I wasn't an accident... >_>
I'm also not a bastard technically speaking, so I've got that thing going for me which is nice.
 
I never meant you were an accident..
 
Babies happen when you don't videogame is what you were implying ;P
 
1:14 AM
something like that :)
 
And I woulda happened anyway because, my dad was young and stupid
XD
I feel so sorry for him when I see the old tapes from when they were married :')
 
I believe your parents are divorced :(
 
Luckily yes
Some people just really aren't meant to be together and the kids (if there are any) will just suffer more if they pretend they do.
 
Sorry…Reading Facebook...
 
well, the most important is that u can overcome whatever pain your parents may have caused..
and it's not that some people are not meant to be together, but sometimes, there are certain things in life that force us to stop the struggle ...
then separation/divorce seem to be the best option..
@Joe'sMorgue why don't you read this for a change... :)
 
1:23 AM
They didn't cause me much pain since they did break up; it was for the better. It's probably much worse when the parents gets along well throughout most of your childhood, then suddenly just start to fight and fall apart.
 
I'm watching this video that BARELY avoided getting killed in various situations. They ALL seem to walk away unharmed. It's like "REALLY!"
 
There are two types of those videos; the one where someone does something stupid and nearly dies, and the other is when someone else does something stupid and an innocent bystander nearly dies.
I get conflicted in what to think when I watch those.
I'm probably not a very good person :P
 
Guy is standing on the outside of a corner of a road-race. Car comes around, gets up on two wheels, and goes over. The guy starts to run, the car hits a tree, and just STOPS, about 4 feet from the guy!
I like the one where people are crossing the street, and an accident happens in the intersection, one of the cars spins AROUND one of the people crossing, but never touches them!
 
Or the guy who jumped the motorcycle
Or motor-cross maybe it's called
Or dirt-bike
I no english today
 
Guy videoing an old steam engine train going by. From the other direction, a modern, HIGH SPEED train passes by the guy on the other tracks. If a fly was on his side, it probably got smashed, but the train never touched him!
 
1:46 AM
mmm fried salmon & okra
 
I took a bird, bathed it in it's youth, then covered it with ground plants...
 
i prefer tree plants myself.
 
2:05 AM
ehhhh... then what ?
 
I've had an Annie Lennox marathon all day.
Dang that woman is great in so many ways...
 
and that is ??
 
First and foremost her voice
 
Ann "Annie" Lennox, OBE (born 25 December 1954) is a Scottish singer-songwriter, political activist and philanthropist. After achieving moderate success in the late 1970s as part of the new wave band The Tourists, she and fellow musician David A. Stewart went on to achieve major international success in the 1980s as Eurythmics. Lennox is the most recognised female artist at the Brit Awards, winning a total of eight awards to date. She has also been named the "Brits Champion of Champions". Lennox embarked on a solo career in 1992 with her debut album, Diva, which produced several hit singles including...
 
But she's amazingly captivating when you watch her perform as well
Why are you linking me her Wiki?
 
2:09 AM
to ask if that is the one /// "_" <<
 
Ah
Yes, that's the one I'm talking about
 
Nice recovery!
 
hmm.. never heard of her.. :(
but again, I don't listen much to western music
 
She sang "Sweet dreams"
 
GREAT song!
 
2:10 AM
She's probably the most famous female singer in the world
 
BOTH versions were good, but hers was better
 
Both?
What is the second one you're referring to?
 
Manson...
 
I think Billie Holiday is the best female singer ever.
 
Manson's version is the truest form of what a cover of a song is; a completely new song.
 
2:12 AM
"Gloomy Sunday", also known as the "Hungarian Suicide Song", is a song composed by Hungarian pianist and composer Rezső Seress and published in 1933. The original lyrics were titled Vége a világnak (The world is ending) and were a set of lyrics about despair caused by war, and ending in a quiet prayer about the people's sins. Poet László Jávor wrote his own lyrics to the song, titled Szomorú vasárnap (Sad Sunday), in which the protagonist wants to commit suicide following his lover's death. The latter lyrics ended up becoming more popular while the former were essentially forgotten. The song was...
 
Covers...
Nine Inch Nails - Hurt
Most people cannot tell that Johnny Cash's Hurt is a cover of NIN!
 
Ironically enough, when you google Billie Holiday Annie Lenox reinterpreting her songs is the first non ad hit :')
 
Super lame.
 
He really took the essence out of that song and sang the shit out of it in the good way. Johnny cash's version is the best.
In my opinion
 
2:15 AM
As far as covers, Cash did GREAT, but he didn't do the best...
The best was Aerosmith's cover of Walk this Way!
 
well.. I think the best in the world could be Amalia Rodrigez (if it is the way to write her name)
 
Annie lennox has the title of most famous modern female singer. Billie Holiday was dead five years after Annie was born :P
 
though I don't understand any of her songs.. :) but her voice seems like coming from heaven.
 
Think for a moment, who did Walk This Way first?
 
Best in the world and most famous are NOT the same thing
 
2:16 AM
I know.. ;)
 
Annie lennox is not the best singer, far from, but she's still amazing.
 
speaking of songs.. did you record any new recording ?
 
Nope
I haven't really been up during daytime
And I don't like to record stuff either when my better half is at home
 
She was good. Dolly was better. No other singer made the same song number one twice several years apart.
 
following the saying (the less your speeches, the most valuable they are) ???
 
2:19 AM
Speeches sounds like a title
I'm the Speeches of Java.
;P
 
I'm speechless !!!! :p
class Speeches implements voice {
...
}
 
String lyrics = sing();
 
should be
String[ ] lyrics....
 
Should probably be voice.sing(lyrics);
 
you could cast explicitly the type of lyrics... voice.sing( (String[]) lyrics);
 
2:26 AM
yes, but you don't need to
 
also, you have to identify other stuff like ... voice.pitch = 0.2321; and voice.volume = 0.87;
 
String[] lyrics = brain.memory(songName);
 
heheheheheh
 
We gotta Java it up in here after all
You know what would be really fun?
 
String[] lyrics = songBook.readall("/usr/library/first/song/book");
 
2:29 AM
A theme day where everything non-Java would be written as if it was Java code
 
Lol
 
@Justin, you mean : me.lol();
 
@mlwn That doesn't work with how the lyrics end up in the brain. If you can't access the local library you can't perform because songBook requires a second server to be available.
;P
 
@Gemtastic some people read the songs.. they cannot memorize them... unfortunately... :(
but I am sure they install a service to access the local library
 
You can't really sing a song you don't remember. You could read the notes, but that would be bad code since it relies on an external library.
 
2:32 AM
agree.. but still... it happens somewhere :)
at least.. :D
 
A library not always accessible
 
ok.. let me fix it..
 
Not in the GemtasticSinger program.
There should be a Memory songName = eye.read(notes);
 
try {
    String[] lyrics = songBook.readall("/usr/library/first/song/book");
} except memoryError {
    while (not in_memory) {
        Memory songName = eye.read(notes);
        memorizeSong(String[] lyrics);
    }
    String[] lyrics = brain.memory(songName);
}
 
In memory() there should be private List<Memory> listOfSongs = new ArrayList<>();
 
2:36 AM
ufffff
I am trying to compile...
 
Hehe
 
I am missing the memory library on my system... :'(
where do I install it from ?
isn't it in the standard library ?
....
I cannot compile
 
You have to build it yourself, there's an Interface for it but each Singer object needs to fill its own library through eye.read(); or ear.listen();
 
or mouth.shut() :)
;)
 
That one does not work at all in this context, it's just a fun way to tell someone to STFU XD
 
2:40 AM
lol
because you just wonTheBattle();
 
@Justin mouth.shut(); should be a devoicer admin tool for the bot :D
 
and I had null to say
 
Lol
 
one could use mouth.shut(); or also kill(object);
depends how nervous the admin gets...
 
Gemtastic.wonTheBattle(true);
 
2:43 AM
whoWonTheBattle = Gemtastic;
but also
whoCares = null;
 
kill(user) could be a way of banning a user from the chat
revive(user) could be the un-ban
 
if (user.didNotShutUp == true) {
    kill(user);
}
 
For some reason I'm having an awfully hard time trying to do something that should be ridiculously simple.
 
if (userWarning <= 3){
userWarning++
}
else{
kill(user);
}
 
if (userkilled == true && someoneLikedHim == true) {
    revive(user);
}
if (userWarning <= 3) {
    userWarning++;
} else {
    kill(user);
}
fixed formatting... (+1)
 
2:48 AM
it has to be (userKilled == true && someoneLikedHim == true)
I can't get a tab in the the chat XD
And I'm too lazy to type in the IDE
 
then, you have to
useMoreBrainCells();
 
No, mind.brainCellUsage is fine, the issue is that canBeArsed = false
 
u can start by using backquotes... example withBackQuotes
` `
 
How do they work these Back quotes
ooh
So that's how you make the text like that
 
they make your text as fixedWidth
 
2:54 AM
But that still doesn't teach me how to insert a tab-space.
 
hmm
u can use [shift][enter] to jump lines
and four spaces at the beginning to convert to code (then you don't use the backquotes)
did_you_get_that?
now??
<kbd>shift</kbd><kbd>enter</kbd>
lol
oops.. kbd doesn't work here
 
Shift enter is a \n
 
yes.. in the chat window..
doesn't it work in your browser ?
I use conkeror.. and it works
so, if you want to write a code.. you can do...
 
I want to tab a space:
        Like this but without the spacebar usage
 
unfortunately.. you have to tab with spaces.. which is a better habit actually
 
2:58 AM
Making a new line I've obviously already shown that I can do
 
sorry.. I Am too slow... :p
didn't see it OBVIOUSLY
lol
 
No you only reformatted this entry where I used it: chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/19546164#19546164
:P
 
hmm.. actually, I copied/pasted and edited
you had a bug... you missed a ;
 
Indeed I did. But to write that, you still need to make new lines :P
 
public TodayUserLearntNewStuff(Gemtastic, "formatting");
:-)
 
3:01 AM
The only thing I actually learned was BackQuotes
Which is not as nice to type on my keyboard as on american ones
 
come on.. you also learnt that you don't need to use an IDE to write several lines of code..
 
No, I knew that
because I did
I said I didn't want to use the IDE to get the tab-spaces
Because I can't get a tab in the chat, unless I simulate it with several spaces.
But the TheseGuys were nice to learn
 
hmm.. then try to live with simulating with spaces... :)
 
or just dgaf about them ;P
 
spaces + shift-Enter + patience = nice code in chat... :)
<kbd>Enter</kbd>
 
3:06 AM
Or lazy = true and only new lines. Be glad I don't lazy out into superLazy extends Lazy and write everything on one line :P
 
this should draw a button called Enter.. but it doesn't work on chat
 
Draw a button in what language?
 
you will dare to define the class superLazy
?
in html
 
Well, no HTML code works in here so it's not so strange that the button won't work :P
 
but it does work on questions and answers formatting
 
3:09 AM
[0_o]
 
I mean stackoverflow questions...
why do you have a bigger eye ?
bitten_by_a_bee == true;
???
:)
 
Syntax error missing left hand side in an assignment :)
 
hehehehehe...
welcomeback !!
 
Thx :D
 
I was not assigning
but comparing, and asking if a bee had bitten his one eye
:)
 
3:13 AM
Yes, Stack Overflow taught me to code outside my IDE, accurately with no compilation errors :p
 
which IDE do you use ?
 
With the semicolon, and witho an assignment, the thing won't compile.
Eclipse Java
I'm at skool so ideone right now
 
it's nice.. but heavy on my system...
I just use emacs
 
yeah :(
I love emacs
I prefer Eclipse for the plugins though
 
which plugins ?
you mean code snippets and stuff like that >
/?
 
3:14 AM
Bracketeer, time tracking software, etc
 
hmm.. I am almost sure you can customize emacs to include much more stuff... :)
but also, it gets heavier the more you add scripts to it
you just need some basic lisp
 
@Unihedron I'm still having some strange issues trying to sandbox the eval command :(
 
@Justin eval is evil...:)
use it carefully
;)
 
@Unihedron In cases where I can confirm my Policy denies permission, the AccessController still allows access.
I did find a work around but it just doesn't seem right.
 
guys.. it's a bit late.. I will just logout of my desk, and login to my bed..
me.out.ShoutLoud("GoodNight!");
 
3:28 AM
Good night! :)
@Justin Maybe it shouldn't be in the same package.
Woo, JavaBot has 3 stars ;)
 
Everything is working fine now as far as I can tell. Denying creation of threads requires some other nonsense
 
lol, maybe we can just do a regex parse to make sure that statement doesn't exist
What did you do to make .toList() work?
 
It always worked 0_o
 
 
3 hours later…
6:59 AM
@Unihedron !!java for java classes, !!eval for statements, !!load to cache a class to be called later.
 
 
2 hours later…
8:48 AM
I am trying to use philippe-fournier-viger.com/spmf/… this library in my own code.. But can't really seem to figure out how I can run algorithms in the library from my own code? Anyone care to help?
 
@miniHessel What's the problem?
 
Maybe I'm understanding it wrong, but isn't it a normal library you can import in to your own code?
Say I want to run this method: philippe-fournier-viger.com/spmf/… from my own code, shouldn't it be as easy as importing the library and calling the method?
I've read the documentation btw
 
heya
 
9:04 AM
Hey there!
 
ssup uni?
how is the BOT doing?
 
@ItachiUchiha Have you ever used blocking queues?
 
@Justin Yes I have
 
@ita hey!
 
@miniHessel hey, at last we met each other :P
 
9:07 AM
@ItachiUchiha woho
stackoverflow.com/questions/26467214/… I believe this one should be added to your previously filed bug?
if you have time?
 
lolz, there is a power cut here
my pc is running on UPS
 
:o
@uni did you understand anything ? :P
@ItachiUchiha I know UPS, I meant another question :p
 
@ItachiUchiha I will have a few threads passing objects into a SynchronousQueue to be picked up by the main thread. From there they are sent off into a cached thread pool for processing.
 
I can't figure out how to use a library..
 
9:10 AM
Thanks @Ita! New item in the list: Acquire and post wikipedia links
 
@Unihedron lolz
@Justin ok! go on..
 
@Unihedron Perhaps it's not actually meant to work as a library?
 
@ItachiUchiha For some reason I end up with 1 thread in a MONITOR state, and the other in a WAIT state. So...nothing is moving through the queue. Even when an object is added to the queue the other thread doesn't wake up.
 
@miniHessel I doubt it's a library. It seems like a tool labelled as a library.
 
@Unihedron So if I were to use any of the code in my own code, I actually have to copy paste his code, am I correct?
 
9:13 AM
You say its a SynchronousQueue
 
You can import the classes and use the methods though, if they're accessible.
 
when does main thread start picking objects from the queue?
 
@uni they are, only problem is that they depend on hundreds of other classes, as always :P
 
@Justin can I see the code?
 
@miniHessel Duh. :P
 
Hi guys...
 
hey
 
I have posted a question about database connection pooling. stackoverflow.com/questions/26503764/… can you guys help me to choose the best connection pooling mechanism.
 
@ItachiUchiha It's kind of difficult to see where the thread starts because it's started by HTMLUnit. the JSONChatConnection class runs on the AJAX threads and passes objects into the queue to be picked up by the main thread
 
@Ajeesh With the vague requirements I have no clue what response you're expecting to get.
 
9:24 AM
@ItachiUchiha Nevermind I got it :p
 
lolz, before i could do a git clone
you are done
:P :P
btw, what was the issue?
 
@Unihedron I would like to know which connection pooling I need to used, after analyzing many I found that HikariCP & Tomcat Connection pool is good. So wanna know others suggestions upon this.
 
@Ajeesh Annddd without specifications and use cases? What feedback do you expect to get? Just get 5 TB of memory and everything will run perfectly. Which database you choose is of no dependency of what they are.
 
I have used Tomcat connection pooling for millions of transactions, it works just fine
Unless you are really worried about performance and time is very valuable for your project, I would say tomcat will just be good enough
 
Have you used HikariCP @ItachiUchiha?
 
9:34 AM
Nope
 
Ok, It's a shopping application I am developing so it may get a huge amount of traffic in terms of database connections
 
@Ajeesh How much? 1000? 10000? 1000000?
 
Let's say simple as 100/s @Unihedron
 
Tomcat. Period. There's nothing that would ever go wrong.
 
9:36 AM
?
@ItachiUchiha What about it?
 
there are two variables with same name
TRIGGER
 
@ItachiUchiha Doesn't really matter.
 
my eclipse was throwing an error, so I just notified :)
 
@ItachiUchiha fix it, add the credientials, and gitignore the file so you don't commit your account
 
9:48 AM
Anyone have a good Data Mining library to recommend for Java? Must be intuitive and simple.
 
Morning
 
Morning
 
'sup uni :)
 
All great over here :)
 
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