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12:03 AM
@Hacker8Heart Intent?
 
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Q: how can I broadcast an object of a class from a service to an activity?

Hacker8HeartJust want to know, is there any other efficient/easy way then Android Parcelable? I have a userObject Class and I wrote the below code in my service. public final static String PAR_KEY = "par_key"; currentUser = new userObject(uid,uname,role,status,avatarUrl,profileUrl); ...

yes i am using intent
 
Evening'
 
1:01 AM
Anyone alive?
 
 
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2:22 AM
Trying to make the transition to JavaFX for its interface and graphics capabilities. Can anyone recommend a good approach? So far, I've been assimilate a text.
Assimilating *
 
2:51 AM
javafx.. I'm stuck in the stoneage with swing.
I think itachi is pretty good with javaFX if you can catch him.
 
Hey, thanks! I'll keep an eye out.
 
sure
 
So when you say stuck, are you referring to a work policy?
Swing, I think, provides a good foundation for a lot of interface programming because it doesn't make anything easy.
I had to do it in classes and was frustrated but I'm grateful for what it taught me.
Still, somehow In more comfortable with it than hache-tml.
 
Na, that's just what I learned from my java textbook. I'm studying some web languages currently, but I still might pursue javaFX sometime
i.imgur.com/86w7LWv.jpg it can take a lot of code, but it can do the job well.
/me fades
fades
 
4:06 AM
can i ask a question about libgdx here?
 
@AdrianM. I Am working on swing!!
 
 
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5:17 AM
Happy 1st guys
 
5:39 AM
o/
 
6:10 AM
Hello
 
heya..
 
6:26 AM
For the first time in forever I answered a meta question :X
 
hehe
how was the experience?
 
Well, I dunno yet I just posted it :P
 
^.^ Fantastic
 
(:
 
I'm out. 'night
 
6:40 AM
Night
 
7:03 AM
Morning
@Gemtastic I think that's close, but it doesn't really hit the mark.
When does a person become unfriendly? Assuming we're all expert developers, (relatively) educated and civil, and most of us weren't born assholes, I think that's true for every community.
 
Morning
 
So what makes some communities less friendly than others?
 
@MadaraUchiha Unfriendly?
 
@Gemtastic Yup
 
I said harsher
That's not the same..
 
7:06 AM
@Gemtastic There's a strong correlation.
Also
> The C# community is much smaller and they are more friendly and tolerant
 
The web developers have a lower tollerance for bad questions, and keep strickter to the rules
 
Implies that that other community is less friendly and tolerant :P
 
that's your impression.
 
@Gemtastic The problem isn't the experts
 
case"user": String id=""; break; case"room" : String id = ""; break ; it is giving error
 
7:07 AM
I believe the experts are the same in pretty much every language (and that's because most experts are in many languages)
 
how can I define same id variable in two case
 
Look at me, I'm in JavaScript, HTML, CSS, Java, PHP and heading towards Python and Lisp
 
fge
@Hacker8Heart: full code please
 
anyone who can help me with this in JAVA
 
fge
(in a pstebin)
Also, you can just declare that id variable outside your switch loop
 
7:08 AM
No, the main cause is the expert:noob ratio
 
@MadaraUchiha look at the answer again
 
When that ratio is high, you have more interesting questions, and less repeated halp plz urgents
 
@fge
how can I define same id variable in two case
 
With a more popular language (and like you said, anyone can read 2 tutorials and call themselves a web designer), the expert:noob ratio drops dramatically
 
fge
@Hacker8Heart I have answered that
 
7:09 AM
That causes crap questions to take longer and longer before they're downvoted and closed, and sometimes they're even upvoted.
 
fge
1 min ago, by fge
Also, you can just declare that id variable outside your switch loop
 
and it also leads to frustration on the expert side
 
Which causes the experts to leave, and the community stays with mostly the noobs and the mediocre.
That's how a community supernovas.
 
yup that is fine but I want to do like that only
@fge
 
fge
Well then you're SOL
Or maybe you can use enclosed blocks
But "I want" won't bend language syntax rules for you in any event
 
7:11 AM
It starts with a good seed of highly motivated people, the topic/site becomes popular, then noobs come, usually without proper moderation, then experts leave, and you're left with a big ball of crap.
 
SOL means? how to do by enclosed bloacks?
 
!!tell Hacker8Heart urban SOL
 
@MadaraUchiha Command sol does not exist. Did you mean: lol (note that /tell works on commands, it's not an echo.)
@Hacker8Heart SOL Shit Outta Luck
 
actually I will make a function call of each switch case after sometime but currently tell me how to do by enclosed blocks?
@fge
 
@Hacker8Heart stop pinging people, when they stop talking to you...
they do so for a reason
also: USE GOOGLE
if you can't be bothered to google yourself, you need a different job
 
fge
7:18 AM
<-- has his brand new Dell M3800 next week
I can't wait
 
hi
i'm making a ide for firefox addon devalopment
 
oh cool a picture
@FastSnail you are aware that this is not the javascript room?
 
@Vogel612 this is not javascript it's swing application
 
@Vogel612 The application is Java based
 
@Vogel612 Can't you tell it's Java by the general Swing ugliness?
 
7:24 AM
"stackalert" is a first extension devaloped using this ide which make a alert[sound] when new questions appear .i think it will helps to your guys too
 
morning
 
@MadaraUchiha didn't even take a look at the image
I don't look at unsolicited images of IDEs
 
@MadaraUchiha I agree with you 100% and that's kinda what I simplified enough tried to say :p
Oh geez I answered another one. Go me on meta today?
 
8:10 AM
@Gemtastic that's good
keep this up, meta is the place to get better at asking and answering questions
 
I've posted yet another answer :')
3 questions answered since the new meta :P
All answered in the same day >_>
 
the chat rules you mention..
some of them are very java-room-ish
 
Not really, I find them in a lot of chat rooms
I wasn't thinking about java at all
They might not be SE-ish
 
I don't find them Java-room-ish
 
8:27 AM
What did I miss?
 
My contribution to the SO meta :P
 
They are the general rules in all the SO chats I've ever used. Noone's gonna be upset with you following them, but the other way around can cause friction in a lot of chats. I didn't link to the FAQ since answers should contain the answers, not links to the answer. :p — Gemtastic 56 secs ago
[...] answers should contain the answers, not links to the answer[citation needed]
 
oh right.. FAQ links..
basically... quote the relevant excerpt of corresponding FAQ and link to the rest for reference
at least that's how I do it.
 
Well, that's fine but I thought I would just give an answer where I'm answering not just link to "your answer is in the FAQ dumbass"
I thought my answer could be useful to other people as well...
I mean, this user originally asked that in the regular SO
It hasn't read the tour and it hasn't read the FAQ or rules. I have little to no hope about that particular person :(
The reason I ended up on meta today was to find why the "interesting" tab is so incredibly uninteresting...
 
@Gemtastic Stack Exchange isn't about helping a specific person, it's about helping the future generation who googles to find this question
 
8:45 AM
@Gemtastic then point them to the FAQ and helpcenter and rules
some people just suck at finding such things
 
G'Morning.
 
hey @wonderb0lt
 
@Unihedron Exactly my point
@Vogel612 Well, ok :O
 
@Gemtastic your point is misguided
 
I suck at this it seems :(
@Unihedron No, but I might implement it the wrong way
 
8:51 AM
Just link to official sources, with minimal reference if necessary.
It's the best presentation.
 
I wish I could select myself what I want to sort as interesting...
 
Uh, first time I used "In need of moderator intervention" as a flag reason
 
inb4 declined
 
probably
Some dodgy link in a question making my company's Karspersky act up. Isn't spam per-se, right?
 
@wonderb0lt no not per se, but definitely worth investigating.
 
9:00 AM
Hence my "needs moderator intervention" flag for people who also compulsively have to click on every link
 
9:17 AM
@wonderb0lt thank you
 
fge
10:00 AM
Great, InterSystem's jars are fubar when the server goes bad
 
10:13 AM
demotivated
 
10:35 AM
heart problems due to excessive coffee consumption
 
fge
@wonderb0lt tachycardia?
 
yes. I feel funny. :D
Maybe I'm just nervous
 
WHy nervous?
 
I've got a date in 90 minutes :P
 
Ah
 
10:39 AM
Nothing Java-related I'm afraid.
 
fge
Physiological impacts of strong emotions is really a mystery, right?
 
I have a date with MongoDB
 
@Gemtastic hot
 
Yup
 
@fge feelings, how do they work?
 
10:42 AM
if(feelings){ system.out.print(in love); } :)
 
Imagine how awkward that is if (feeling instanceof anger)
 
fge
@wonderb0lt don't ask me
But it is a fact that they do have physiological impacts, sometimes severe (ex: PTSD)
 
The part that handles emotional pain is the same as the one handling physical pain
 
yes physical pain must with emotional
 
@Unihedron careful now
 
10:47 AM
ahh, I see
 
@MadaraUchiha Don't remind me. xD
 
@MadaraUchiha that doesn't explain whether it must be the wife who kills the lover, or if anyone else is allowed to do it on her behalf :S
 
wonders if Uni is in risk of being the lover or the cheater
 
@Gemtastic or the wife :P
 
@Tavo I'm sure the law itself specifies that :P
@Tavo You never know :O
 
10:49 AM
 
Not that you could actually kill someone legally.
 
@wonderb0lt well... yes..
 
@wonderb0lt how about self defense?
 
legal is a matter of context and country
 
My federal state still has death penalty, lucky for us it's overriden by federal law :D
 
10:50 AM
@Tavo let's not forget about "self defense"
 
trust is everything
 
Not breaking the trust is everything
 
@Vogel612 what do you mean?
 
@MadaraUchiha so that's why she's still single
 
fge
Grrr, the test server provided by the client is completely unusable, I can't work anymore
 
10:52 AM
@Tavo general state of US police forces in southern states
 
she is intelligent
 
oh ok
 
@fge go home early
 
well, I try to avoid using the States as a reference for law. Or for many other things
 
There's no such thing as killing someone in self defense in my country. If you kill someone by accident or through self defense you're still charged with killing them, but it's called something like "causing the death of another"
 
10:53 AM
I was talking more about self defense in general
@Gemtastic there is. It's a matter of proportionate use of force
 
@Tavo Read my edit.. .I forgot a VERY important part >_>
 
ah, ok
 
when make a friend work everything why make enemy anyone ....
 
You're off the hook automatically here
 
ADG
how to remove the sh errors from git terminal:
 
10:55 AM
@ADG By using commands properly and not cause an error.
Also, is that Windows? Eww.
 
ADG
I uninstalled ruby
but why is this coming
 
The only time you can "kill" someone without getting punished is if they kill themselves.
 
@ADG bad idea
 
ADG
I dont wan them pooping everytime i open git terminal
*popping
 
@Gemtastic in self-defense cases the "appropriate use of force" often constitutes an acquittal
@Gemtastic you can actually be charged for that in Germany..
 
10:56 AM
@Gemtastic because punishing them after that would be stupid :D
@Vogel612 really?
 
"Assistance to suicide"
 
@Vogel612 Self defense exist here yes, but you can't kill someone here and claim self defense
 
interesting...
 
@Vogel612 § StGB?
 
If you push someone in self defense and they fall in such a manner that they die, you will be charged with "the cause of someone else's death"
 
10:58 AM
@Gemtastic how likely would someone be to go to jail in that case?
 
@ADG Reinstall ruby then
 
ADG
I don't want ruby
 
@ADG have you googled your issue?
 
ADG
when i type where sh
it gives:
 
(stating the obvious here)
 
10:59 AM
@Tavo it depends on how justified the self defense was and if the push was a safe thing to do. The maximum jail time is 2 years but you could get off with a fine only
 
ADG
C:\Program Files\Git\bin\sh.exe
 
@ADG Why are you asking about that in the java chat?
 
ADG
and @Tavo nothing seems appropriate or relevant on google
 
I'd recommend you to google "how to edit git startup script"
 
ADG
11:00 AM
@Gemtastic just because
 
eye twitch
 
fge
@wonderb0lt working remotely, so this does not apply
 
@fge Have a bath
Slack off, basically :P
 
fge
Nah, I have some other stuff to work on
 
@wonderb0lt hmm.. $77, 78 in Austria
wikipedia doesn't list stuff for Germany, aside from the BVerfG 2 BvR which only applies to Doctors
 
11:02 AM
@Vogel612 Ah, I always assumed you were from Germany and couldn't find anything on it in the German version :)
 
I am...
 
@Vogel612 Assistance to suicide is illegal here too, but it's a type of murder charge. But let's say you drive a train and someone jumps in front of it; you can't be held responsible for it.
 
> § 78 StGB: „Wer einen anderen dazu verleitet, sich selbst zu töten, oder ihm dazu Hilfe leistet, ist mit Freiheitsstrafe von sechs Monaten bis zu fünf Jahren zu bestrafen.“
 
@Vogel612 Ah.
 
@Gemtastic true that..
 
11:03 AM
@Vogel612 Interesting
 
@Vogel612 The only thing that comes close to is failure to render assistance in an emergency (Unterlassene Hilfeleistung) in Germany
 
> § 78 StGB: "Who helps or 'nudges' (in lack of a better word) someone to kill themselves, shall be imprisoned for a sentence of 6 months to 5 years"
 
I would have used car instead of train but it's more complicated with cars; you can actually be held responsible if someone jumps out in front of your car, depending on the circumstances.
 
#Legal
 
@Vogel612 The punishment isn't as severe but we have one crime for assisting and another for initiating someone's suicide.
A girl recently got convicted for talking her friend into suiciding. He had changed his mind and called her for support and she told him that he was a pussy if he didn't do it :/
 
11:07 AM
> in Deutschland: (§ 216 des Strafgesetzbuches),
 
@Gemtastic what a cunt
 
ADG
Randomly I just removed .bash_profile
and everything worked
maybe I shoul dmake a self answered question?
 
@wonderb0lt She did it as a popularity stunt.
@ADG Not really because it's exactly what I thought; it's a start script
 
@Vogel612 §216 StGB (de) <-> §77 StGB (at), but there's no equivalent of §78
that I can find. I'm legit curious
 
me 2.
 
ADG
11:08 AM
Actually I have no knowledge about all this except some basic git comans and java
 
@Gemtastic Vielisht -> vielleicht
 
<- no law education whatsoever
 
ADG
??
 
@Vogel612 I told you I couldn't spell for the life of me ;P Thanks for correcting me~
 
11:10 AM
anyways when I'm here, I'm usually also lurking there :)
 
Well, I'm at work so I only join work related things :P
 
ADG
anyways also would someone interested in providing suggeston for a suitable laptop for me to buy since i am joining a college where I'll learn programming for the first time formally
what about this out of stockie
 
meh. lurking doesn't mean having the tab open :)
that being said I'm still completely stumped how any of this code ever worked
what do you do first when you calculate KeyData for a project?
right: you instantiate a Visitor that keeps track of a KeyDataCollection while he iterates projects....
and while you're at that you best use classes with cool names like KeySumPrepareProjectList...
it's definitely going to help..
like... always
 
@Vogel612 I know, but meh. It's open when I get home
 
and everybody will understand what the crap you're doing behind these opaque data-structures, three levels deep inside another opaque DataStructure that works like js this..
basically you touch it somewhere and it transforms into something that will break existing code because everything you do has side-effects.
and it's only ever called when you have that particular combination of access rights T.T
because who needs extensible or maintainable code, right?
 
11:19 AM
@Vogel612 Of course you have unit tests to be notified of the effects your changes have
 
we got a package named Test
inside there is a single class
that class has about... 12k lines
 
@wonderb0lt It's nearly impossible to unit test code with side effects
 
@Vogel612 Sounds nice
 
of these 12k lines, right now about 3 are actually efective
 
Sounds nicer
 
11:20 AM
Code with side effects should be tucked to the corners of your app, on the most outside layers, and they are to be tested with integration tests
 
I do not envy Vogel :P
 
@MadaraUchiha Yeah I wanted to say, any kind of test will do
 
because... everything is inside a gigant0r switch-statement that operates over a single string you give to that class by putting it into that opaque boggart data structure
 
@wonderb0lt You did say unit tests
 
@MadaraUchiha Yes, but then I considered what you said and came to above conclusion :)
 
11:21 AM
Also, having a crapload of system tests that need to boot the entire context of the entire app is meh
Very meh.
 
Any kind of test is better than no test.
 
Testability, like security, is not something you can add after the fact.
 
@MadaraUchiha that side-effect code doesn't even rely on context.
probably
 
You either start at a very early stage, or you fail at it on a later stage, or you don't do it at all.
@Vogel612 Every code has a context
 
so it might or might not be testable without restarting the tomcat context
 
11:22 AM
Even unit testable code has a (very small and contained) context.
My "context" and your "context" are probably different
 
yes I'm talking about the servlet container context
 
By "context" I mean the "world as it's visible to the unit under test"
 
there is no other sensible context to put a box around in this application
everybody sees everything, because who gives a **** about the Law of Demeter.
 
Then you can't sanely test.
@Vogel612 now:
 
@MadaraUchiha yea that was kinda... the you don't say moment of the day
Also I'm sweating rivers here
thinking straight is hard already, thinking in the randomly bouncing way required to develop here: impossible
 
11:27 AM
@Vogel612 Oh, would you look at the time?
It's time to find a sane place to work in.
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@MadaraUchiha meh. it's time to think about what I write into my letter of resignation, yes
 
@MadaraUchiha Stack Exchange?
 
Then again I feel bad for the poor sod who's my senior and who can actually develop here...
and to whom I left a few actually structured and at least halfway acceptable classes
because there's two possibilities when he has to touch my code..
either he sees the light and can never enjoy working on that again
or he thinks of it as I think of the existing code
 
@Vogel612 Ask yourself this, is the salary you're getting minus the cost of the psychiatric treatment you're getting worth your while?
 
@MadaraUchiha ... no, not anymore
 
11:31 AM
Well then
 
when I just had to do the easy stuff, it was actually manageable
 
wow.. wtf...
stacktrace gives me L 117
put a breakpoint onto 116
blows up, no breakpoint hit..
 
...
 
11:46 AM
yes... but bare-handed..
 
@Vogel612 He can do that. Vector control is strong :P
 
just for touched stuff, right?
 
@Vogel612 Normally, yes.
When awakened, no.
 
awakened? ... hmm I need to read up, says misaka as she adds another manga to her imaginary "to read" list
 
@Vogel612 Where are you?
 
11:50 AM
not quite sure...
sth aroun 17 for To Aru Kagaku no Accelerator
and somewhere first season of anime for To Aru Majutsu no Index
cool... back-end based ellipsis of project names...
 
sigh got 4 hours of meetings starting in an hour
 
fge
@Tavo this is why I have never wanted to be a manager
 
12:08 PM
I'm not a manager in this company, just a dev. But since I act as interim manager when my boss is away, like today
once you start being a manager, there's no going back... :(
funny enough, a guy was trying to hire me over the weekend as implementation manager. Told him I was not interested
the only good thing about being a top level manager is all the travelling (for me). And I could become a consultant if I want to go back to that
 
12:43 PM
<--- is just glad to have a job
 
fge
Meh, if things go as planned I may have to manage a team in the not so distant future... Unsure how I'll manage if ever it comes to that
 
@fge I've always thought that a good manager is someone that listens to the people he/she works with and protect them from rubbish coming from above
 
I should do that to some of our product people.
 
@MadaraUchiha brilliant
 
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