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7:00 PM
no, translation is that he called me to the front desk
 
@tereško look, I'm sure my webpage can be readable by those tools... because my friend has implemented that in his website .. he get a sound and sends it to a path (of google) via ajax .. then get the text
now I'm looking for that path
 
what an asshole
 
Do you have a front desk?
I only have one desk...
 
@FélixGagnon-Grenier hence my recommendation
 
7:01 PM
yep
 
and since I am evil gamergater, I am allowed to tell people to kill themselves
at least that's what it send in the manual
 
see why I am/was tempted to drop the "i"
and the stomach pain I mentioned yesterday
 
well, the purge has pretty much ended
so you should be able to leave later
 
/me is cooking ribs. hmmm, the smell
 
/me gets another beer
 
7:04 PM
@Shafizadeh I think you are concentrating on the wrong things now
/me already finished both of his beers & accompanying cheese
 
@tereško ok, how a "speech to text" system works? it gets a voice, sends it to a path, that path returns a text, right?
 
parsing speech into text is extremely hard
 
@tereško Are you one of those evil green/blue/black/color that cheese really shouldn't have people?
 
@tereško I know, that's why I don't want to create my own system and I want to use google's tool :-)
 
7:07 PM
@user3304007 I already told you twice now to get lost. You can just stay out now o/
 
@Shafizadeh did you try googeling?
https://developers.google.com/web/updates/2014/01/Web-apps-that-talk-Introduction-to-the-Speech-Synthesis-API
 
@Shafizadeh you dont need it at all. Stop betting distracted.
 
@Shafizadeh of course you could do that .. if you can beat thier lame protection
 
@Summer-Sky You are new here. I can tell you: no, he indeed did not try googleing :)
2
 
7:09 PM
Yeah you are one of them
 
@tereško "it"refers to what? All I want to do is converting a speech to text .. because of doing that is pretty much hard, so I want to use what google uses ... now I need to know google sends a voice to where?
 
Probably one of those bad boys
 
@Summer-Sky my country is boycott and I cannot oped your link
 
@PeeHaa :-) ... I'm talking about a path .. as you know google gets our sound and sends it to a path (for converting it to text) .. now just I need that path ..
 
yes crome will take care of that
 
@Summer-Sky That actually works pretty damn good
 
@Summer-Sky and @pmmaga thank you guys .. I will take a look at the links you provided
 
7:16 PM
var u = new SpeechSynthesisUtterance('ttttttttt');
speechSynthesis.speak(u);
@DaveRandom ^ yw :P
brb writing a chat to speech user script
 
@PeeHaa lol, yes .. that i have seen some where before XD
 
@Shafizadeh converting speech to text is an extremely complicated problem .
 
@tereško do you mean "implementing it is hard", right?
 
I would go with "extremely hard"
 
@Summer-Sky :P
 
7:21 PM
and using 3rd party services (like google) would require a lot of bandwidth from users
 
omfg this is so cool
var messages = document.querySelectorAll('.message');

for (var i = 0; i < messages.length; i++) {
    if (i > 5) break;
    speechSynthesis.speak(new SpeechSynthesisUtterance(messages[i].textContent));
}
limited to 6 for safety reasons
 
@tereško well yes I know it is hard .. but google does it ...! I only want to use google to convert speech to text for me .. doing that is hard too?
 
@PeeHaa he want the other way around
 
ooooh you can even tweak pitch \o/
 
I give up
 
7:23 PM
@tereško yeah just having fun with a new shiny @Summer-Sky just linked
 
@PeeHaa I know. I am not even talking to you, since you are currently in the "fat kid in the candy shop" mode
 
:P
It's true
boo pitch doesn't work for me :(
oh ptch
\o/
Best 10 minutes of my life
!!caniuse SpeechSynthesis
 
Well played edge. Well played
 
duh, I see now why I couldn't make it work
ff(s) (firefox)
 
7:30 PM
PEBKAC?
 
hi, i want to create a mail system, and i stick with how to create the database for recipient, i mean when i want to send mail o multiple recipient, i am not sure how the database structure for recipients should be
 
@qaisali google one to many relationship
 
i did to many
but failed
 
: 33646106, Mr. Edgar h. Baker, you call the reception. (translated from Turkish)
 
7:32 PM
:D
ahaha
 
lol!
 
Anonymous
@DaveRandom @PeeHaa Make Jeeves a voice controlled, client based AI bot please.
 
user1804599
@PeeHaa A SQL query walks into a bar, and asks two tables: "can I join you?" After a while, he falls off his chair, because he drank one too many.
3
 
Anonymous
@PeeHaa are you on a Mac?
 
@rightfold lol
@JayIsTooCommon ofc not
I only use it when I really have to
 
user1804599
7:33 PM
Reminds me of the classic:
 
user1804599
Jul 18 '15 at 15:28, by JavaFan
I need a MySQL query to select * from table where column1 is not null and column2 is null
 
PEBKAC? (translated from English)
 
@rightfold hahahaha
 
"Problem Exists Between Keyboard And Chair"
 
user1804599
7:34 PM
PEBKAC is the default issue state in our bug tracker.
 
@Ekin intriguingly, Google translates "Ekin" as "Annex"
 
I need a MySQL query to select * from table where column1 is not null and column2 is null
 
yeah, I assume it is because ek = addition @DaveRandom
and some sort of funky fail
 
naah, we are going with "annex"
 
Anonymous
7:35 PM
@PeeHaa I think you were looking at text to speech but for the other way round, OSX comes with a really decent customisable voice bot. And I mean, completely customisable.
 
Anonymous
I should probably go and get some context
 
heil ekin o/
3
 
:P
 
^ lol
 
lol indeed :D
 
7:36 PM
so many things to star
 
@JayIsTooCommon Go grab that context son
 
Anonymous
Yep. Got it. I'll go back to watching the dumb box
 
:P
 
@Jeeves LOL
 
7:38 PM
that reminded me: I should check what's new on reddit
 
Hi Guys
 
user1804599
Hi Guy
 
I need some help with json
anyone? @rightfold
 
Don't ask to ask
 
user1804599
I don't know anything about JSON, sorry.
 
7:43 PM
json derulo
 
user1804599
 
user1804599
jQuery
 
:P
 
hahah touché
 
@Ekin finish the reminder PR already :(
 
7:44 PM
@PeeHaa lol
@rightfold lol
can anyone explain in few sentences why php was bumped up to 7 ?
we had that subject at work, but could not find an easy explanation
 
They tried to make it all unicode and failed. That was the 6 branch. Idiot authors already wrote books about it. hence "7"
 
@Summer-Sky you guys didn't think of, like, searching php.net? :D
 
user1804599
lol
 
user1804599
7:51 PM
I had to buy a PHP book for school and it's full of SQL injection vulnerabilities.
 
lol that's pretty bad even for a php book
 
@rightfold which one?
 
Anonymous
Oh and if you want a course in PHP6 - brainmeasures.com/courses/online/814/… this is still happening.. :)
 
nice it even has autoplay audio \o/
 
user1804599
@Summer-Sky Internet and World Wide Web: How to Program
 
Anonymous
7:52 PM
The description gets me every time
 
Anonymous
> PHP6 also comes with a safe mode feature
 
I almost want to pay the $150 to see what's going on in there
 
user1804599
 
> Brainmeasures is an ISO 9001-2008 certified company, Brainmeasures is a leading online skill testing company. Our certifications are acknowledged by employers worldwide. Reason behind this trust is our world class testing standards. Brainmeasures offers skills tests in over 1200 varied fields and over 100 professionally developed courses and certification programs.
hehehe
@rightfold lol
 
@rightfold lol
@rightfold but which page is that? maybe its one of the first ones ? only trying to give first simple success feelings ... for the beginners
 
7:56 PM
@rightfold Errrm...
@Summer-Sky doesn't look it, it has css that uses nth-child
 
user1804599
@Summer-Sky The only correct place to put an example that is vulnerable to SQL injection is in a section that specifically explains SQL injection.
 
Anonymous
@PeeHaa I'm pretty sure they told @Danack they were going to remove it months ago but nope
 
makes you wonder whether they actually make money of it
 
well i have most certainly read hundreds of stackoverflow pages with that kind of voulnerability ... and have written answers like that too ...
i wouldn't code that though. but i know "professionals" who would.

i guess i get your point .. they wouldn't be like that if they where "educated" the right way from the beginning?!
 
I feel this bears repeating, while we're talking about ridiculous version numbering:
Oct 18 at 8:51, by DaveRandom
> At Build 2016 we shared a preview of the next version of Visual Studio, which we call Visual Studio "15" (not to be confused with Visual Studio 2015).
This from the company that brought you Windows 10 to avoid confusion with Windows 9
 
8:02 PM
tbf that company indeed invented weird versioning
Also known as marketingver
 
you mean starting with 95?
 
The really nice thing is, even on the download page the "15" is still in quotes
 
hehehehhehe I wish we still did that with "7" everywhere
oh wait. docs commit access \o/
 
Jul 28 at 9:05, by DaveRandom
Counting to 10, the Microsoft way: 1, 2, 3, 3.1, 3.5, 95, 98, 2000, 7, 8, 8.1, 10
2
 
@DaveRandom LOL
@DaveRandom wasnt there a 3.11 some where ?
 
8:05 PM
yes think so too
 
Windows 3.1x (codenamed Janus) is a series of 16-bit operating environments produced by Microsoft for use on personal computers. The series began with Windows 3.1, which was first sold during April 1992 as a successor to Windows 3.0. Subsequent versions were released between 1992 and 1994 until the series was superseded by Windows 95. During its lifespan, Windows 3.1 introduced several enhancements to the still MS-DOS-based platform, including improved system stability, expanded support for multimedia, TrueType fonts, and workgroup networking. Windows 3.1 was originally released on April 6, 1992...
even more funny
3.1 3.11 3.2
 
@Summer-Sky Yes, and technically 95/98/ME were iterations of V4, 2000 was V5 the whole XP/Vista series were V6
However... it's a joke :-P
 
@DaveRandom ;)
ok .. i have go .. still have some work to do
night
 
Anonymous
 
Anonymous
!!wotd
 
8:09 PM
stalwart: firm, steadfast, or uncompromising.
 
@Summer-Sky night
@JayIsTooCommon wtf
 
@JoeWatkins ping
 
8:38 PM
@Gordon Is business class with air berlin alright?
Because I think I'm flying that tomorrow...
 
I think you'll get to your destination.
 
@Wes oh, I see. but that's not guaranteed anyway, objects are complicated
 
Well duh :P I accidentally booked it
 
8:55 PM
@JayIsTooCommon I am so hoping for github to be down soon :P
 
Anonymous
9:10 PM
@PeeHaa hahah ikr xD I'm gonna try the IMDb stuff next I think
 
Anonymous
Did you decide on PHPUK btw?
 
nope
 
user1804599
Yay, my code generator works.
 
user1804599
If I input foo it outputs $foo. :D
 
small steps
 
9:32 PM
@JayIsTooCommon I deny everything......though particularly in this case, I haven't seen that before. Also 6 Philippine Pesos is a cheap price for Mysql certification.
 
hmm
 
!!> echo (int)'0b11'
 
Anonymous
@Danack mistaken identity :p chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/33647207#33647207 Just a long running scam I presume
 
@Jeeves I hate PHP
 
9:39 PM
[ 7.0.11 - 7.0.12, 7.1.0RC2 - 7.1.0RC3 ] <br/><i>Process exited with code <b title="Process was killed">137</b>.</i>
 
Good good
 
> Abusive script - This script was stopped while abusing our resources
 
sounds legit
@Sjon ^ :-P
 
@DaveRandom yeah, only decimal's allowed for (int) and the like currently. we should really have a var_import()
 
@Andrea that... would be super useful. There are many times when I'd like to accept constant values without eval()ing them. Well not many, but it has happened.
The number of times I've seen hideous quoted string matching regexes
s/seen/written/
 
9:43 PM
@DaveRandom D:
 
thanks god for the locales-all package.
 
Ear worm warning:
 
Wes
ahasdnasdoq
 
@Andrea It needs to accept nothing but a single constant value and leading/trailing whitespace, if you could have it on my desk in an hour that'd be great. kthxbye
:-P
 
@DaveRandom that'd be the idea
 
9:46 PM
an hour? you're leaving her so much time?
 
dunno how to implement it exactly
 
what are you, a lenient pop?
 
maybe use the AST…
 
@DaveRandom Use can use intval 0 ... though it currently doesn't support binary :/
only hex and octal
that seems like something we can easily fix
 
user1804599
I'm so happy with the fixed variable syntax in PHP 7.
 
user1804599
9:51 PM
It makes code generation a lot easier.
 
user1804599
No more defensive \call_user_func, just parentheses. :P
 
@taco This is what I was talking about, gist.github.com/Danack/de585ce163f594d047a75a0505c32976 I still use zircote/swagger-php for parsing the model things - but for the controllers, just specifying the end points in JSON is easier for me.
 
@Danack @Andrea bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=73374 logged a bug
 
@NikiC Auto-complete requires more than 2 chars in this case.
 
@NikiC ahaha
soon we'll reimplement the entirety of strtod
 
10:00 PM
@Andrea ... badly
Did I mention that our hex and binary literals actually produce wrong results if they overflow to double?
 
@NikiC oh wait I meant strtol. Zend already has its own strtod :D
@NikiC fantastic
$ php -r 'var_dump(PHP_INT_MAX + 1);'
float(9.2233720368548E+18)
Andreas-MacBook-Air:~ ajf$ php -r 'var_dump(eval("return 0b1" . str_repeat("0", 64) . ";"));'
float(1.844674407371E+19)
hmm.
 
@NikiC that would be nice but for the job in hand ^0b[01]+$ will do
 
$ php -r 'var_dump(eval("return 0b1" . str_repeat("0", 63) . ";"));'
float(9.2233720368548E+18)
oh.
@NikiC what do they do wrong?
 
@Andrea I don't quite remember ... try str_repeat('1', 64)
 
$ php -r 'var_dump(eval("return 0b1" . str_repeat("1", 64) . ";"));'
float(3.6893488147419E+19)
$ php -r 'var_dump(eval("return 0b1" . str_repeat("0", 65) . ";"));'
float(3.6893488147419E+19)
$ php -r 'var_dump(eval("return 0b" . str_repeat("1", 64) . ";"));'
float(1.844674407371E+19)
 
10:12 PM
@Andrea Set precision to -1
 
$ php -dprecision=-1 -r 'var_dump(eval("return 0b" . str_repeat("1", 64) . ";"));'
float(1.844674407371E+19)
 
... On a recent PHP version
 
oh
uh\
$ sapi/cli/php -dprecision=-1 -r 'var_dump(eval("return 0b" . str_repeat("1", 64) . ";"));'
float(1.844674407370955E+19)
 
yeah. the correct result would be 1.8446744073709552E+19
 
how, uh, subtle
 
10:16 PM
It doesn't round correctly
It should be rounding up, but it end up rounding down
@Andrea It's just so very PHP. Can't even parse a literal number correctly!
 
@NikiC beautiful
 
Wes
10:33 PM
evenings
 
ening wes
 
hey @NikiC, I remember you or someone else saying unserialize's reference handling will always cause security issues. Do you know why?
 
10:48 PM
@Andrea lack of forward declaration
if something is a reference, the serialize format does not directly specify that
instead, at some later point there will simply be a back-reference
To support that, we have to keep pointers to all unserialized values, in case they are referenced
You can imagine that it's virtually impossible to guarantee those pointers do not get invalidated if it's possible to run code in between
 
ah.
 
We can prevent __wakeup from running (a more aggressive version of github.com/php/php-src/pull/2050), but I don't think there's any way we can avoid issues with Serializable::unserialize()
 
is the problem that any value is potentially a reference? could you scan for references ahead of time…?
or perhaps make all values be references. though that would be very slow
omg
$ php -r 'var_dump(date("d-m-Y", PHP_INT_MIN));'
string(19) "27-01--292277022657"
oh wait this is correct
I'm not used to these fancy new “64-bit” computers, back in my day we only had 32 bits and we liked it
 
11:06 PM
Pffft 32 bit.
The VIC-20 (Germany: VC-20; Japan: VIC-1001) is an 8-bit home computer that was sold by Commodore Business Machines. The VIC-20 was announced in 1980, roughly three years after Commodore's first personal computer, the PET. The VIC-20 was the first computer of any description to sell one million units. == History == === Origin, marketing === The VIC-20 was intended to be more economical than the PET computer. It was equipped with 5 KB of static RAM and used the same MOS 6502 CPU as the PET. The VIC-20's video chip, the MOS Technology VIC, was a general-purpose color video chip designed b...
The first thing I programmed.
 
Yeah...... I had an Atari 800XL so can imagine the xe was even better.
 
drive belt for the external floppy was loose, I got good enough to reseat it while running
good times
that plus a tape drive was my introduction to piracy as well
back when one of these and/or a piece of tape determined the writeability of a floppy disk
 
11:32 PM
@Andrea Nope, Serializable foils that as well
You won't be able to detect references from inside Serializable parts
And those, sadly, can reference values outside of them
 
@NikiC oh, because those handle the unserialization themselves?
 
yes
it's free-format
 
what horror is this
 
the serialization format is incredibly stupid ... at least in hindsight
 
okay. what if we make every value an IS_REFERENCE with a refcount of 2, then decrement and possibly deref at the end
@NikiC everything in PHP is terrible … at least in hindsight
 
11:37 PM
@Andrea apart from the obvious performance issue, pretty sure this will cause fallout because rc=1 references are not quite as transparent as they're supposed to be ...
But yes, as a brute-force solution that might sortof work
tbh my preferred approach is to declare this out of scope for security issues
It's pretty inherently flawed, we document that you mustn't use it on user input, if you do, your fault.
 
@NikiC then we need to make them more transparent :p
 
@Andrea that is, ah, "non-trivial" :P
 
@NikiC oh, now I'm scared
 
Wes
@tereško i need to a new computer because the mule died and i can't be arsed understand what's going on. i need a mobo (preference:gigabyte), ram (preference: durable), cpu, heatsink (silent), gpu (not playing games so i think anything will do, except i need 2 dvi and hdmi port) and a psu. can you suggest something? intel? amd? and what chipset?
budget 500-1000, the lesser the better
btw, do you call "mule" spare stuff, in english? :B i use words i don't even know... i meant, the spare computer died
also psu must be relatively powerful, as i'm going to have 4hdd in there, i'd say 600w+ or probably more, right?
 
11:56 PM
no, in context I thought of it as a "work horse" .. not spare stuff, not fancy, but gets shit done
 
Wes
yeah nope, we call "mule" backup stuff. for some reason i thought it'd be the same in english :B
 

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