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Ekn
12:12 AM
@Danack ahaha :D funny thing is it only says "Women's" and the address when I wnter the tracking number.
Even funnier thing, I got this email notif. 2days ago but thought it was spam cause it said "Call Cia : $number" in spanish.
Turns out its someone's name in fedex office.
It can only be SO's swag for the meta answer after about 4months...except the totally awkward possibility that there's a weirdo out there that I don't know.
 
"the totally awkward possibility that there's a weirdo out there that I don't know." - implies you think you know all weirdos.
 
Ekn
Riiight...
 
Wes
1:14 AM
gn \o
 
2:00 AM
mfegh
 
Ekn
o/
!!rebecca
 
Ekn
at least it is Friday somewhere \o/
 
Ekn
:D oh riiight
 
oh heck there's an idea
I should get my PHP-to-JS compiler working well enough that I can compile that page to run client-side
 
Ekn
heh actually... that'd be pretty nOice
I still haven't had the change to (try to) try it, as the rest of the day was full of depressing stuff right after I sat down with my coffee
but well...
public function itsFridayFriday() {
    /* ... */
}
 
2:42 AM
yey! happy friday!
 
Ekn
lol.. had a mini hearth attack when I saw php version was 5
took me 4mins to realize I'm on win7 not my main
 
Ekn
:p
 
played xcom2 yet @Ekn?
some reviews say the time limit on each mission sucks. not even sure I want to play
 
Ekn
3:05 AM
I did. I liked it actually. Nah it is harder to play but I really enjoyed some of the missions and the maps. Haven't finished though just did a few missions.
Need to get on steam :p
Played it on bro's pc where he got via torrent
Dunno..give a try or watch a gameplay before buying if you prefer.
 
4:00 AM
ugh.. blind leading the blind ... frustrating watching this dude continuously pump out crap answers
 
dat ignore of your comment though
 
I want to set the error_reporting level via commandline, and want to use E_ALL, but since I can't use the E_ALL constant, I would need to use it's actual numeric value. Is this the best and/or safest way to do this? I don't want the code to break if the value changes? The only other option I can see is having PHP output the constant's value and assign that output to variable.
 
@FélixGagnon-Grenier he really rubs me the wrong way.. he throws code at a thing until it seems to work, it's all just awful.. in the past he's also "improved" some of this crap answers by copying and pasting code from mine, but done so in almost entirely the wrong ways
@crypticツ use -1
 
thanks!
 
@PaulCrovella I see very few "right" ways of improving a crap answer by copying from a better one.
 
4:16 AM
@crypticツ to explain why - the error reporting uses a bitmask and -1 will tick all the bits because negative numbers are represented using two's complement
 
you really think he rants about the answer, not the duplicate? cause that's.... that sucks.
 
yeah, pedro kept them running in circles throwing various things at the problem.. there was never enough time in there for them to have read the dup (though not taking the time to is still on them)
 
Shit. I think it's the first time stack overflow's effect on someone's life actually genuinely saddens me.
 
mordgogenjing
 
4:32 AM
that the system rewards the behavior (fastest gun in the west, doesn't matter how well they shoot) is part of what keeps driving me away.. it's bad enough getting a flood of crap questions, but to watch people filling the site with crap answers too (and basically be encouraged to do so) makes me give up
 
4:43 AM
@PaulCrovella that is actually very interesting.
 
mornin
 
Wes
4:58 AM
@JoeWatkins do you watch "silicon valley", the tv series?
 
'nin
@Wes no
 
Wes
felix? teresko? doesn't one of the actors resemble someone you know? :B
 
nope
 
haven't watched. should I?
@Wes watchoo talkin bout willis?
 
Wes
i like it @FélixGagnon-Grenier, it's a solid 7, but only watched few episodes
 
5:25 AM
@FélixGagnon-Grenier every time someone complains about his post being downvoted, it should automatically go into wiki-mode
to prevent vote-begging
 
aloha people
 
o/
 
'nin
 
Ekn
mornin
 
5:37 AM
indeed
 
fuck, I should be pedaling to work already
 
Wes
5:56 AM
@JoeWatkins maybe it's just the beard
8
 
Wes
it's the guy from "silicon valley" the tv series, he is a C programmer
it can't be a case :B
i can't unsee it :|
 
moys!
and such rebecca to you all!
 
6:22 AM
hate chat markdown
 
Good morning! And happy Rebecca day!
 
Yay
\o/
 
Wes
!!rebecca
2
 
\o/
 
Wes
i hate rebecca, but i accept listening to the song as punishment for achieving nothing during the week :B
 
it's funny how once that was added to jeeves everyone kinda just said fuckit and gave up on trying to cleverly roll people
 
@Wes You mean reward
moin
 
mornin
 
So... last night Jeeves became multi-room \o/
 
6:40 AM
the slut
 
ehehhee
=)
 
@PaulCrovella ikr, brazen hussy
 
If any of you are missing random music for the next N work hours, I would recommend trying out Ratatat on spotify or whatevz .. been quite productive for me lately
 
Ekn
wow myspace changed a lot
 
@Ekn Did it change by finally dying?
 
6:45 AM
.. nevermind (rubber duck)
 
Ekn
not sure probably yes, not hearing it anymore but I remember the times when it was a huge thing for some
just visited it when I searched Ratatat, after many years and it's now a different thing apparently
 
Wes
@DaveRandom justin timberlake spent 50m on it, bought shares and invested several milions for funding a revamp. perhaps it's not going to die soon
 
Ekn
yeah was just reading that
 
Wes
i remember the times when amazon was struggling hard and it was pretty much dead, now it's one of the biggest internet companies around... again
 
I read "Justin Bieber" like 3 times then
I didn't think he could do anything to make me like him less, but that would have done it
 
6:53 AM
what's the difference
 
Wes
that is offensive, timberlake is a decent artist. i dislike his music, but i don't think he should be ashamed of it :B
 
this ^
Justin Timberlake is merely a bell-end. Justin Bieber is a premium bell-end, and that's a long way away, even on a logarithmic scale.
 
Wes
ahah
 
I don't use the word c**t very often but I might apply it to him
 
Wes
hey, but he is the modern days kurt cobain
 
6:57 AM
someone buy him a rifle
 
Ekn
:D
 
Wes
lol
 
@PaulCrovella Justin Beiber / timberlake, or Dave?
 
Wes
bieber :B
 
Ekn
he's gonna pick you... and get a rifle. :p
 
7:01 AM
dun dun dun
 
@Epodax recommend all 3
 
triple the chance that someone handles the problem
 
@JoeWatkins Duh! I am really, really stupid!
Morning, tho.
 
this thing got an upvote within 16 seconds.. every question the person has has an upvote regardless of quality.. hmmm
 
Anonymous
Mornin
 
posted on May 06, 2016

New Cyanide and Happiness Comic

 
Jimbo,tereško do you have some sane links on github or anywhere else or doing MVC in proper way with some code examples
 
@crypticツ ping me when you're about, would like to discuss the possibility of leveraging Jeeves to feed events into the backlog to reduce the number of transcript scrapes it requires
 
7:41 AM
ლ(ಠ_ಠ ლ)
 
@JoeWatkins (and @PeeHaa, you do this too): "staph" vs "stahp"
in fact I blame @PeeHaa for joe getting it wrong
 
@AnmolRaghuvanshiVersion2.0 nope, not really
most of my code is under NDA :) ... and, TBH, I have not looked for good examples made by others
 
@AnmolRaghuvanshiVersion2.0 what's so hard about splitting ui interaction into three distinct roles?
 
!!urban stahp
 
7:49 AM
[ stahp ] In memes simply stop, usually meaning stop doing something horribly wrong.
 
@Gordon fun fact: MVC either has 2 parts it is split in or a lot more than 3
 
@Gordon Well you'd think, wouldn't you, but apparently it's quite difficult, based on the entire internet
 
@tereško you know I quoted the fowler definition from poeaa
 
heh
@DaveRandom based on "the internet", you can only learn HTML from w3schools
 
@DaveRandom but it is quite simple if you just focus on the triad. it only gets complicated when people add pedantry about which role is "allowed" to talk with what other role and other impractical details
 
7:54 AM
@DaveRandom Entire internet, led by frameworks with good marketing shits behind them
 
@Gordon the amount of "pedantry" is directly proportional to project's size
 
We should really create an instructional site, but xkcd_standards.jpg
 
@Gordon just some things make me confuse and helpless like this stackoverflow.com/questions/36296818/…
 
o/
 
7:56 AM
@tereško it's a very simple pattern. it does not involve your specific project requirements. these are yours.
 
sure: view does out put, controller does input and model does business logic .. it's simple and utterly useless as an explanation
 
@AnmolRaghuvanshiVersion2.0 well, go through my answers instead :P
@tereško it's perfectly fine
 
@Gordon linking to a user:me search won't give him your answers
 
@PaulCrovella fixed. thanks
 
:D
 
@tereško I agree that it's a simplification and that it's missing parts from Trygve's vision for MVC, like the entire User aspect and Direct Manipulation metaphor thing, but for most web setups this the 80% people are looking for.
 
@Gordon The issue, I think, is when people don't understand the distinction and claim that what CakePHP and Laravel do is the MVC
That's where I take issue anyway
 
@Jimbo agreed
 
@PaulCrovella staph it
Mornign roomsters
 
Ekn
o/
 
8:13 AM
I look at stuff like this, (Don't Panique!!!), and initially weep for developer skill levels. Then I think - hey, we've got better chances at jobs where they care about people knowing what they're doing rather than just taking anyone on to build websites
 
@Jimbo the readme certainly is HUGE
 
@PaulCrovella me too
 
Anonymous
@Jimbo pls no more link to that profile here :)
 
omg, what is that scary thing in the star list @Wes ?
 
Wes
@JoeWatkins ahaha. man, it's totally you :D
2 hours ago, by Wes
it's the guy from "silicon valley" the tv series, he is a C programmer
i can't unsee it. i just can't :B
 
8:21 AM
ha
is that a thing I should watch ?
 
Ekn
ugh this is annoying mail-archive.com/… is what I have atm
 
Wes
@JoeWatkins yes. it's a nice series :B
 
@JoeWatkins This will help you decide :-) (slightly perhaps nsfw)
 
Don't get me started on that disrupt buzzword -_-
 
8:31 AM
Hello all, I'm looking for send email when registration form is submitted, do I use event (postPersist) or is there other solutions ? thanks.
 
> while keeping the code extremely readable (StackOverflow, Wikipedia, SoundCloud).
WTH does soundcloud have to do with any of that @Jimbo?
 
@Jean-LucB. Sounds like a job queue would be useful here - you don't want the user to wait while you send out an email :-)
 
@Jimbo shit like this makes me sad
 
@PeeHaa Wait where is this from? Confused
 
yeah, are you drunk @PeeHaa ?
 
8:35 AM
@JoeWatkins Working on it
 
Wes
@Jimbo math has many applications
 
@PeeHaa Ah, absolutely no idea!
 
hehe
@Jimbo I still didn't see good pictures of bike yet ...
 
@Wes for instance Spermatheca or Aftermath
 
@JoeWatkins You not see the side-on one?
 
8:37 AM
no
 
Ah, she's beautiful :-) just a sec
 
ah found it
agree, obviously :)
 
I can't go over 6/7k revs for 930 miles though
6k out of 12 in top gear is 100mph
Will do 190, can't wait!
 
awesome
 
what was the reason for "division by zero" exception not working?
@JoeWatkins do you remember the TL;DR version?
 
8:41 AM
@Jimbo nice, but needs a big fat php logo on the side
 
:P
 
@Jimbo instadeath
 
@Gordon I got J777 PHP on the back of course, but nice idea
 
dammit too many chat windows
 
Does PHPCS/MD support PHP7?
!!rebecca
 
@tereško because floats grouper.ieee.org/groups/754/faq.html#exceptions ... you will get the exception with intdiv() though
 
tnx
 
8:57 AM
Got tired of all the Rebecca links so I created this tool to detect them before I click them.
10
 
Anonymous
@Fabor FACK
 
at least you tried
 
And my Friday is complete.
 
@Fabor Facking noice
 
Anonymous
AGHHH!
 
Anonymous
9:02 AM
My biggest fear is I will remember friday-rebecca for the rest of my life ... even when I'm retired.
 
9:25 AM
Morning. Happy Rebeccaday all.
 
\o
 
o/
 
Totally fine during the winter. Trust my body to get a cold now, when everything is finally warming up
Trying to write code with a heavy head is.. difficult
 
@DaveRandom I had opened a request here github.com/Room-11/Jeeves/issues/19 about the same thing. Right now the backlog support for the chatroom is broken ever since the tag search support was removed by SO.
omg
 
@crypticツ Can you create some kind of endpoint where we can "insert" entries?
 
9:38 AM
The cv-pls.com domain expired =oO
3
 
lol :-P
I can create a subdomain of daverandom.com if needs be
If you can create something whereby I can fire a HTTP request with a message URL in, you can fetch an individual message from that URL and add it to the list?
You know the backlog code better than anyone
 
@DejanMarjanovic you had one job! =oP
 
@Fabor you are an asshat
 
\o/
 
:-P
 
9:45 AM
@DaveRandom Does Jeeves not have a way to read room messages as they are posted? I could setup the backlog to fetch each message individually, but I'd have to setup a queue in case we get a dump of cv-pls as the transcript is time limited for it's requests.
I really only need the question ID transferred to the backlog with the cv-pls reason tag.
 
@crypticツ Sure it does that :)
 
@crypticツ No I mean a URL like chat.stackoverflow.com/message/30380514
fail
moment :-P
 
whoa, didn't know you could get a raw text message. That's great, and I don't see it imposing a request time limit.
 
We can fire that URL over to you and you can parse out the cvs from the message text only, so you can re-use a lot of your logic and we don't end up with a bunch of duplicated cv-logic in Jeeves
It will need slightly different logic because that's HTML rather than MD but should be a simple change
 
How would we prevent someone from sending a flood of fake requests to the backlog?
 
9:50 AM
We'll need SSL and some kind of secret access token I guess
Basically an API key-type setup
 
This sounds a lot simpler and I like keeping most of the existing code. I made v2 compatible with any chatroom through a config file so any room can make their own backlog. Is Jeeves room agnostic?
 
Multi-room support in Jeeves will be in master in the next day or two
And we can include the room id in the message we send to you (you can't easily get it from the message ID I don't think)
The only issue is that if Jeeves dies you won't get any events, so it might still be worth walking the transcript to reconcile once a day or whatever
 
@ircmaxell o/
Long time
 
@Fabor Weak.
 
or not :P
 
9:56 AM
Morning o/
 
morning
 
Anonymous
\o
 
@DaveRandom You can't search for tags in chat anymore. Since you can't narrow down the results you have to walk each page one by one looking for tags. Which depending on how busy the room is could be dozens of pages later before a tag is found.
How would Jeeves die? Is there a way to revive him remotely if he does go down? If so I can setup the backlog to jumpstart him if he goes offline. Not even sure where and how he's hosted.
 

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