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Wes
12:07 AM
idris?
 
Anonymous
 
Wes
why not if he is a good actor?
 
Anonymous
nah
 
Wes
i remember the guy in pacific rim. he is bad ass
 
Anonymous
Definitely!
 
Anonymous
12:14 AM
He doesn't have that James Bond appeal to him. Roger Moore, Sean Connery and Pierce Brosnan were it!
 
Wes
meh. there is only one james bond. others sucked
 
Anonymous
Which?
 
Wes
sean connery of course...
 
Anonymous
Yeah ..
 
Wes
i didn't even watch the last movies. i tried watching casino royale. was awful
 
Anonymous
12:22 AM
yeah.. Skyfall was fine.
 
Anonymous
Spectre was crap
 
12:33 AM
when I update the value of an array I want to change the order so that the newly updated key is at the top. For example if I have the keys "one, two, three" and I update $array['two'] I want it to be in the order of "one, three, two"
Whats the best way to do this?
 
Anonymous
If it does not follow any pattern, there isn't much any array function can do for you.
 
Wes
@joshhunt 3v4l.org/dQ2HE ?
also, hi \o
 
Anonymous
why unset($arr['two']); ?
 
Wes
read his requirements, he wants the updated key to be the last
 
12:55 AM
sorry phone call, o/
solution seems good, thanks
 
1:09 AM
@Wes how you been?
 
Wes
fine, i guess :B you?
i mean, i'm not a millionaire yet :B
 
I'm pretty good, had someone minor injuries (slightly deflated lung) but feeling better now
 
Ekn
is there a devdocs.io like all-in-one docs browser that I could add into a website?
 
Anonymous
1:27 AM
yeah
 
Ekn
1:39 AM
how do I find it? I haven't seen anything that's not coffeescript or ruby yet
 
Moin.
 
Ekn
o/
 
Wes
2:08 AM
i have like 40 tabs open, did read dozens of pages, on unicode.org and i still have no idea what it is about
i needs more coffee
like, a silos sized cup
 
Ekn
I would lend you the SO "bottle", but well
that thing doubled up the amount of coffee I consume
 
Wes
SO bottle? :P
 
Ekn
it was supposed to be a bpa-free water bottle :p
 
@Wes you are trying to understand unicode?
 
Wes
@joshhunt no one can understand unicode :B
 
2:15 AM
lol
 
Wes
basically i'm wrapping this php.net/manual/en/class.intlchar.php in something nicer. that class is not exactly usable...
 
what are you using it for?
 
@Wes :~(
Dude, do I go around saying mean things about your classes?
 
Wes
ha. i know it's not your fault @Sara :P
 
:p
 
Wes
2:19 AM
icu is... quite messy
 
Anything you need tips on wrt unicode?
 
Wes
not yet :P but thanks
 
ICU, as a library, is somewhat haphazard, but it's the best unicode handling library out there...
It's basically the PHP of encoding libraries
 
Wes
indeed, and i love it
it is just too low level. it's probably just the C api, because the java one doesn't look too bad
would have helped if we had stuff like enums for those walls of constants...
 
Indeed
 
Wes
2:27 AM
btw, i've recently embraced IntlCalendar too. it is so much better than ext/date
people should use it... api is actually very similar to DateTime & co.
 
Wes
2:41 AM
surrogates are a utf-16 thing only, right?
 
2:52 AM
@JoeWatkins I was not aware of "g a" either. I didn't make any of that stuff, though.
@bwoebi To be honest just take it and run.
I want to do more but honestly after the last bit here I'd rather just let you take over and go with it.
You can have any of the RFCs I've been drafting. You want enums?
 
3:34 AM
@Wes right
 
Wes
\o thanks :P
 
Adi
goodmorning
where can i find a good book for modal with fetching the id of the particular data to edit or delete?
 
@Wes For the most part, yes. They're also a thing in CESU-8, and by the strictest technical definition UTF-8.
 
Wes
i preferred when my knowledge of surrogates was limited to bruce willis
 
3:52 AM
CESU-8 makes me cry
 
Ekn
4:28 AM
say I have 50 categories that users can tag when posting,
to get the top/trending/new categories when you have tons of posts, would having a collection of categories, incrementing the count of a used tag (upon each successful post submit) then checking for min/max etc make sense? or what else can I do?
 
Hie Everyone! Good Morning!
Can you please help me with stackoverflow.com/questions/37346341/…
 
Ekn
4:46 AM
I can't think of a better way at all. I think that's gonna be okay.
 
5:09 AM
posted on May 30, 2016

New Cyanide and Happiness Comic

 
moin
 
Ekn
mornin joe
 
yuk monday
 
Ekn
indeed
 
5:41 AM
ha silicon valley are doing tabs vs spaces bit
 
Ekn
heh so I heard as well, haven't seen yet
 
Adi
hello
can ask you guys about modal?
 
Hey anyone having any idea of xmpp openfire messaging ?
 
Gm all :)
 
5:52 AM
@bwoebi I fixed the observer impl so a slow consumer doesn't miss values. I also pushed an alt-version with a next() method that moves to the next value instead of moving each time isValid() is called. github.com/amphp/observable/tree/alt-observer next() releases the back-pressure on the observable. I think it might be better since it gives more control over back-pressure to the user.
A user could apply back-pressure during only a portion of the processing, rather than being forced to wait until calling isValid() again.
$observer = new Observer($observable);
while (yield $observer->isValid()) {
    // Do some work, like a DB query, etc.
    $observer->next(); // Release back-pressure.
    // Send result to consumer.
}
@bwoebi Thinking about alternatives to #68, a loop could have a shutdown (destruct) function registry. A separate storage registry could use it to register a function that releases memory associated with that loop driver object.
 
6:27 AM
good morning
 
6:48 AM
o/
 
o/
 
7:36 AM
morning!
 
'nin
 
Ekn
mornin'
 
aaah mondays in Belgium.. gotta love the traffic jams...
 
<3
 
moin
 
7:41 AM
'nin
 
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/37388426/cybersource-how-to-add-m‌​erchant-defined-data-field-in-woocommerce-closed
 
@Naruto too late @work?
 
@Duikboot the problem is I can't be late for work, the downside is I have to work longer the later I get in :P
 
Haha, where are you located?
 
@Naruto That's pretty much the universal job code ;-)
 
7:52 AM
Can anyone help me to find a good book on Python Programming for beginners , Chao from Tennesse
 
@user1616704 Have you checked: python.org/about/gettingstarted ?
 
I want a pdf for beginners
 
You want you want, I'm not a search engine.. goo.gl/tuA9mG
 
@user1616704 I used to have an earlier version of amazon.com/Python-Essential-Reference-David-Beazley/dp/… .. was pretty decent.
 
Yeah Thanks
 
7:58 AM
@Oldskool Yo! o/ o/
 
@Duikboot \o So how many new keypairs have you created since our last conversation? xD
 
Guess what, everything is running perfectly for.. 2 weeks at least.
 
@Duikboot :O knocks on wood
Seems like the ghost in your machine has finally moved on ;-)
 
I guess now you have mentioned it,.. I will get in trouble in a few hours
 
Nah, I knocked on wood, it'd better work!
 
8:03 AM
Ohno, received feedback for a website, client changed the structure ><
 
When do clients learn they should never change anything other than content.
6
 
@Duikboot Normally I work like 15-20 min from my home, but toay it only took me 45 min :)
 
To dodge the traffic?
 
what? :D
 
So you don't have to drive in the morning rush ( ochtendspits ) :D
 
8:08 AM
I'm developing a web-app tha's currently written in German. As I want English-Speakers to use this, too, I'd like to add the option to switch the language.
What's the best method for that? I currently think declaring variables for the text would be the easiest to maintain with a simple CMS.
Any other ideas?
 
@Duikboot normally I don't, but seems every road I keep taking gets more crowded every year ><
 
@TechTreeDev What have you used setting it up right now? Framework?
 
@Duikboot Vanilla PHP. But I consider using Laravel
 
@TechTreeDev Never heard of that one. :D ( You want to just setup translation for all your views/messages etc? )
Laravel has it built-in. /resources/lang/{lang}/messages.php
 
8:11 AM
@TechTreeDev Take a look at github.com/vanilla/addons/blob/master/plugins/Multilingual/… maybe it can help
 
@Duikboot Which means I haven't used any framework. And yes, I want the UI and the COntent translated
@Duikboot Well, that's another reason to use this
 
In Laravel it's easy, no idea about Vanilla.
 
@Duikboot Vanilla just means plain PHP, no framework or library, just the bare stuff :)
@TechTreeDev And yes, declaring language variables is the easiest way. Just create (separate) lanuage include files where you define the variables. I'd create a wrapper method that looks up the translation of falls back to it's default, like: echo $this->Translator->translate('Your account has been successfully registered.');, which looks up the translation for that string if it's set or just does a plain echo of that string if it's not set/found.
You could separate various groups of translations into translation domains like Registration for the above example and either set a default domain with something like $this->Translator->setDomain('Registration'); or as a second variable for the translate method (or both to stay flexible): $this->Translator->translate('Blabla', 'Registration');.
 
@DaveRandom you broke the build, but I don't see how? Either I don't get git or github or both
 
ooh ok
 
8:20 AM
@Oldskool That sounds good, thank you
 
mornigns
 
@PeeHaa 'nins
 
@PeeHaa morglfaasdf
 
@TechTreeDev when I work like that, I usually store the lang in a session, and include a lang file based on that session which contains an array with all the translations you need..
 
Just sharing this awesome chill monday-start-2-work music: soundcloud.com/studiobrussel/stavroz-2016-18
 
8:24 AM
@PeeHaa ?
oh you mean travis
looking now
 
LOLWTF (for the Dutchies): stackoverflow.com/questions/37343015/…
Busted by the teacher :') though.
 
@kelunik pushed the !!is plugin and I pushed terminator. After that I see some merge by you. And unrelated things started to fail tests after that. But I only see this merg github.com/Room-11/Jeeves/commit/…
#SoConfused
:P
 
hahahahah @Oldskool
 
Ekn
lol
 
@PeeHaa Yeh I screwed up a git pull (didn't --rebase and didn't realise until after I pushed) so ended up with a merge commit
 
8:27 AM
@DaveRandom But how come there is no mention of the thing you broke on github?
 
var_dump()s were starting to get ridiculous so I added a __debugInfo() (amonst other things)
 
Oooh all the way over there :)
 
Yeh I forgot to push it and then more stuff happened
I assume that's why php-src is full of merge commits
 
hehe no worries. Was just confused
 
mornings
 
8:30 AM
o/ @tereško
 
mornign @tereško
 
@PeeHaa You fixing test or you want me to?
 
Whatever you want. Eithyer way is fine by me
 
Hey peeps, have a rather confusing question to ask. :P
 
@KerrialBeckettNewham I hope you mean the subject of the matter is confusing. Confusing questions are pretty hard to answer.
 
8:33 AM
lol :)
yes, i meant the subject matter. it's just difficult to explain, but i'll do my best
 
@PeeHaa Just pushed, should fix it
 
<3
 
Morning!
 
I've have a category problem. what is the best way to separate data in to categories and then sub categories and then category items for those sub categories?
 
@KerrialBeckettNewham parent_id for categories, category_id for items
 
@Patrick can you please look into my issue stackoverflow.com/questions/37346341/…
 
if an item can belong to multiple categories, you need n to n of course
@ShashankShah no
 
@Patrick but you can't auto increment two ids.
 
8:42 AM
@Patrick thanks
 
@KerrialBeckettNewham what... how is this related to this question?
 
@Patrick it's not, didn't think about that. sorry. you know the uk gov website. how it has a list of options, click on one then goes to a sub category and it changes in the search. well how does one replicate this? like this for example: gov.uk/browse/benefits
 
@KerrialBeckettNewham this is a normal category tree? where is your problem?
 
@Patrick guess i'm not sure what a normal category tree is or how to do it.
 
@KerrialBeckettNewham You know what an object is, right?
 
8:49 AM
@Sherif yeah
 
Think of each object property name as come category and its value as just another object. What do you get?
{"category1": {"subcategory": {"item": ...
 
@Sherif you get parents and children?
 
Think of it more like a graph.
 
We made something to help newcomers get their heads around how this place works https://t.co/MoJrcpMMkF
 
@Sherif ok, i'm looking for a good example.
 
8:55 AM
@KerrialBeckettNewham An example of what, exactly?
 
@Sherif of a category tree
 
In computer science, a tree is a widely used abstract data type (ADT)—or data structure implementing this ADT—that simulates a hierarchical tree structure, with a root value and subtrees of children with a parent node, represented as a set of linked nodes. A tree data structure can be defined recursively (locally) as a collection of nodes (starting at a root node), where each node is a data structure consisting of a value, together with a list of references to nodes (the "children"), with the constraints that no reference is duplicated, and none points to the root. Alternatively, a tree can be...
 
@KerrialBeckettNewham Well, think about it. What does a tree look like?
It has branches. So if you have an object that contains other objects, that gives you branches.
5 mins ago, by Sherif
{"category1": {"subcategory": {"item": ...
Now you can traverse the object at specific depths.
i.e. Categories -> Sub Categories -> etc...
Don't think of it like a tree. Think of it more like a map.
 
@Sherif Thanks mate, will have a go.
 
It's easier to picture it that way, because essentially one object property just maps to another object.
So it can be a co-recursive structure (like a tree) or just a undirectional graph.
 
9:00 AM
@Sherif just one question how does it interact with a db?
 
Generally it doesn't. Most of the time you would compose such a thing from a database using an adjacency list.
Heirarchical data doesn't typically play nice ina flat relational database made up fo neat rows and columns.
But there are plenty of ways to convert between them like building the tree form an adjancey list or using breadth first traversal, for example.
 
categories
id | name | parent_id

items
id | name | category_id
 
Right, that would be an example of an adjancey list.
 
No MCVE PHP PDO sessions check - Niels Lucas - 2016-05-30 04:51:26Z
 
@Sherif which is two tables?
 
9:03 AM
Not necessarily.
 
@KerrialBeckettNewham the tree is just the categories table. the items is something completely different, just items that belong to a category
 
@Sherif ugh, i'm useless at this shit.
 
I'm not actually sure what you're trying to do. I just happened to wander in the middle of this conversation so...
 
I'm trying to create categories, with sub categories and then sub category items.
 
@KerrialBeckettNewham a sub category is just another category that points to another category (parent_id). If it's a root category, parent_id is null
 
9:08 AM
@Patrick Ok, i think i get that.
 
9:29 AM
morning
 
o/
 
What is param really doing? $sth->bindParam(':calories', $calories, PDO::PARAM_INT); I mean I understand what it generates, but what makes is so 'safe'?
 
It's safe because it makes it clear to the db-server that whatever is in $calories is not part of the sql string.
So even if $calories is Robert'); DROP TABLE students;-- the db-server will just treat it as a string (or int in your case).
 
9:58 AM
hey guys, so I'm trying to connect to google cloud messaging through this php code to send a notification to my phone:

<?php

class GCM_SendMsg {

    function __construct() {

    }

    /**
     * send push notification
     */
    public function send_notification($registatoin_ids, $message) {

        include_once './config.php';

        // Set POST request variable
        $url = 'https://android.googleapis.com/gcm/send';

        $fields = array(
            'registration_ids' => $registatoin_ids,
I'm getting the result of the executed curl in $result variable, the echoed result is: "registration_ids" field is not a JSON array
 
10:15 AM
@LeviMorrison Why that resignation? Don't take it too personal. You're still valued, you just cannot make people wait too long. :-/
 
Ekn
lol
mismatch, no dr. pepper (but orange juice)
 
Mmmm orange juice.
Now I want me some orange juice.
 
10:32 AM
any one worked in flicker integration with php?
 
@shihab_returns I have tried to upload image using phpFlickr ( github.com/dan-coulter/phpflickr ). But upload is not working. I debug and found that its getting authenticate but curl response is empty
Any one used phpFlickr?
 
@Duikboot Safe from SQL Injection?
 
i think this repository is outdated
 
@SunnoSakib That library is 2 years old
It's possible that the API was changed since then.
 
10:45 AM
@SunnoSakib what about this .github.com/Jeroen-G/laravel-photo-gallery
 
@shihab_returns Same problem
 
@MadaraUchiha Me & @SunnoSakib is faced this problem ... Anyone here to help us.
 
@shihab_returns I haven't touched PHP in years
 
a quote from description of room: "Don't ask to ask, just ask."
 
But look for a library that was updated more recently
Alternatively, read the flickr API docs and roll with your own implementation
It shouldn't be that complicated.
 
10:49 AM
@MadaraUchiha It's getting complicated as there is no error afterall.
 
hello friend
 
11:44 AM
cdn2.hubspot.net/hub/513128/hubfs/Blog/refactoring-legacy/… any idea where to find some nice GUI for php errors to track them?
Or ... can I just create that myself probabbly yes
 
@Duikboot you can jsut create that youself :P
 
indeed
 
@Duikboot Yes, but if you have budget New Relic has this and some other nice features built-in: docs.newrelic.com/docs/apm/applications-menu/events/…
 
New relic is cool!
 
Wes
12:12 PM
hodor \o
 
hold the door!
 
Hold the door!!!! Hold the door!!!!
 
Game of thrones is really famous among web developers... do anyone has specific reason ??
 
$timestamp = strtotime("2005-03-00");
date('M-y', $timestamp);
it return Feb-05
 
12:16 PM
date 00 ???
 
Why ?
yes
 
How on the earth that is even possible ??
 
oh .yes.. its my mistake ..sorry
 
One question to all ??
`strtotime("2005-03-05");` Server will take 05 as month or as date ?? Why and how?
 
12:30 PM
@PraveenKumar Should depend on your locale settings. But by default that should be Y-m-d format.
So that would be March 5th, 2005.
 
okk thanks :)
 
Hi guys, I am not sure if this is the appropriate chat for my question so pardon me if it isn't.
You know how when you open a pdf in your browser at a given page you do something like this some_pdf_file.pdf#page=2 , this for instance will open your pdf at page number two, now when i want to go page page number 3 i'd replace 2 by 3 ans so forth . Now here's my question is there a way not to open another browser tab for the next page opened when it's the same pdf ?? Instead just use the already open pdf and go to that page ?
 
12:50 PM
@Trowski Using a separate registry for that is IMO well… solving nothing. You still have a registry that way, just with a more complicated API…?
@Trowski You can also just write code like:
 
@Duikboot ugh...
 
@Patrick Yo Bro Steve
 
if (yield $obs->isValid()) {
    do {
        $currentValue = $obs->get();
        $valid = $obs->isValid(); // release back-pressure
        // do further processing here
    } while (yield $valid);
}
^ @Trowski this is doing exactly the same, just with a simpler API
Also ensures that you don't miss to call a "next" function
 
1:26 PM
@bwoebi This looks like a good case for a closure
I wouldn't want to write that, I'd just want to write the "do further processing" part (I as the consumer)
(Or am I reading this wrong?)
 
@MadaraUchiha you are
 
Ignore me then
 
You need to check for validity of the next value.
the backpressure part is handled internally when isValid() is called
basically, when you begin waiting for the existence of a potential next value, backpressure is released @MadaraUchiha
 
Hi guys, I have a small problem with nginx and php application in docker on port 8052 and every action (POST, ...) is being forwarded in wrong way ending that port 8052. Here's config
 
@bwoebi Define "backpressure"?
Events waiting in the queue to be processed?
 
1:30 PM
@MadaraUchiha no, the event emitter gets an awaitable which will be resolved when the next value is asked for
 
So if I open that domain everything works fine until I click on any form or sth which forwards me to domain:8052 and that's wrong
 
thus the event emitter can wait for its resolution and not do further processing until he's sure that its future values are needed @MadaraUchiha
 
Run time the url appends "." at end
Actual url : http://www.made-in-tunisia.net/data/et_recherche.php?id_act=708&mode_recherche_et=act
After Append : http://www.made-in-tunisia.net/data/et_recherche.php?id_act=708&mode_recherche_et=act .
I am trying to use file_get_contents()
While m using this function, it appends "." at end
anyone can help please
 
1:54 PM
Show us whole code
 
please See Code pastie.org/10858042 @VeeeneX
 
2:15 PM
@bwoebi That's true. I wrote it at about 2 am and wasn't sure if it was a good idea.
There is something nice about being more explicit about when the iterator is moved to the next emitted item. Incrementing with isValid() feels a bit like a side-effect.
 
then call it just nextValid() or so
or maybe just next()
 
while (yield $observer->next()) {
    $emitted = $observer->get();
}
$result = $observer->result();
 
yeah
result is the value passed to resolve(), right?
 
@bwoebi That's the key. Developing within the release cycle is not too long.
 
@bwoebi Yeah.
 
2:26 PM
i want to get user location country based on ip
should i use ipinfo or geoplugin
ipinfo is not free
geoplugin isfree
but which one is better
 
@LeviMorrison While this is true, you were pushing everything to the last minute … Your feedback is still valued and I'd be happy if you could have a last look at the union types RFC
 
The nullable types section could use some references to the ML discussion.
At least one person wanted Foo | Null. Maybe it was Tom?
 
@Levi feel free to improve, I'll only be back later this evening
else I'll take care of it then … ;-)
 
@bwoebi I'm thinking the observable impl should wait for at least one subscriber before it emits values, otherwise you'll always be defering the first value emitted just to ensure it's not missed.
 
2:43 PM
not necessarily. Waht when I only want to subscribe at a certain moment?
i.e. progress updates, I only want to monitor a specific tasks progress after another task is done
 
@bwoebi Good point. Then I wonder what the best way to wait only one tick before emitting... Awaitable resolved in a defer watcher?
 
@Trowski I think the emitter internally should Loop::defer the first emits
 
Can someone address me to an open source(Completed) project made by room-11ers i want to study that...
 
Any Other ??
 
2:50 PM
!!github Room-11
 
Organization Stack Overflow - PHP Chat: 16 public repos
 
@PraveenKumar ^ that
 
Can you tell me about it some more in simple words... plz
 
Ehm, no... not much to tell. Just click through it?
 
Moornings yo
 
2:56 PM
@RonniSkansing o/
 
!!google mutant
 
Search for "mutant" (https://www.google.com/search?q=mutant&lr=lang_en)
• MUTANT | MUTANT MASS | Muscle Bodybuilding Supple… - The scientifically advanced MUTANT supplements provide bodybuilders with the nutrients they need t… (https://iammutant.com/)
• Mutant (Marvel Comics) - Wikipedia, the free ency… - In American comic books published by Marvel Comics, a mutant is an organism ( usually otherwise hum… (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutant_(Marvel_Comics))
• Mutant - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia - In biology and especially genetics, a mutant is an organism or a new genetic character
 
!!frydai
 
2:58 PM
Guys its fast... :) Sorry for anonymous typing...
@kelunik thanks man :)
What do you think i directly dive in jeeves code or study something before diving in ??
 
goR11
 
@bwoebi Having a loop shutdown function can be useful for other things, e.g., stopping a worker process pool if the loop it is associated with is destroyed.
The static Loop class could register a shutdown function with each loop that is run to unset the registry array associated with that loop object.
 
3:14 PM
@Trowski you can also just put something with a __destruct() function in the normal storage
 
@bwoebi Right, but I was trying to completely separate the storage from the loop.
 
3:26 PM
@PeeHaa repin is ready to deploy
 
3:46 PM
@Trowski but you still have indirect references through the destructor callbacks… nothing gained there
 
@bwoebi I couldn't find the messages I was looking for but I reworked that section a bit. Take a look when you can.
 
@LeviMorrison looks good. Shall I now drop a quick message to internals that I'll start vote tomorrow evening?
 
o/
 
user6225166
hello
 
user6225166
4:03 PM
what's the current topics?
 
@Trowski How should that work when loops can be reused?
 
@kelunik how is that related?
 
You talked about loop shutdown?
 
Wes
@Sara can i always assume that if IntlChar::getIntPropertyValue > 0 then the property is matched?
 
$hcptype_id= $_GET["asdfghjkl"];
$a = (int)$hcptype_id;
echo $a;
The $hcptype_id is working but the $a produce 0
why is that
 
4:21 PM
@kelunik yes, he did
 
@bwoebi What's a loop shutdown?
 
@kelunik loop\driver::__destruct
 
please help somebody
 
@bwoebi Which isn't reliable.
 
@kelunik no?
 
4:26 PM
There will often be references somewhere, see e.g. static $reactor in some Amp functions.
 
@kelunik yeah, you'd have to manage your own registry and reference it in dtors
I dislike that too \cc @Trowski
 
....using a computer without adblock on it is not a nice experience.
 
try ublock
 
4:41 PM
It's a work computer.......we make money from adverts....
 
4:58 PM
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