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12:44 AM
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A: PHP using Declare ? What is a tick?

JayroxYou are on the right track as to what a tick is. http://www.tuxradar.com/practicalphp/4/21/0 Put simply, a tick is a special event that occurs internally in PHP each time it has executed a certain number of statements. These statements are internal to PHP and loosely correspond to ...

 
user895378
> Note that in PHP7 ticks will be removed completely.
 
user895378
^^ Is that true?
 
user895378
I was not aware of this ... need to verify
 
Anonymous
< never uses ticks :/
 
ticks are for code analytics and stuff
 
user895378
12:54 AM
To any concerned parties: that was definitely not true and has now been corrected in the answer.
 
hummm... if we add a preprocessing layer will the tokenizer extension tokenize the prepro.. directives or they will take place before tokenization?
 
@marcio not sure what you mean?
 
I'm wondering if I should add the preprocessor during lexing or before lexing
 
which preprocessor?
#define, #if style? (cpp?)
 
more like:

@@def SOMETHING = true

@@if SOMETHING
    // conditional code
@@end
I haven't picked a preprocessor yet :P
 
1:00 AM
before lexing definitely
 
yea, so the tokenizer extension won't be affected and one less problem to solve
too bad PHP has so many comments formats
everything that resembles other preprocessors synatxes is taken already
 
@marcio And @@foo is even valid syntax I think
 
really?
 
@marcio yeah, silence op applied twice I believe
 
3v4l.org/Nl9Yj it is - shut up twice PHP
2
 
1:06 AM
Just that nobody writes that ^^
 
line     #* E I O op                           fetch          ext  return  operands
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
   3     0  E >   BEGIN_SILENCE                                    ~0
         1        BEGIN_SILENCE                                    ~1
         2        FETCH_CONSTANT                                   ~2      'foo'
         3        END_SILENCE                                              ~1
         4        END_SILENCE                                              ~0
 
lol
 
https://github.com/haskellcamargo/phpp

Not because must be made, but because we can make it.
Muahahaha.
 
we can't use #
 
Just as a prototype written in a half of an hour.
 
1:09 AM
because bc break
 
Oh, yeah. Any idea for any token for declarations?
This would break perl like comments.
 
we can't use @@ either because it's the double shut up operator, see the ops up there
 
"double shut up operator". Nice name.
 
and we have the triple shut up too @@@
:(
 
Don't say me we have the nth shut up too @@@@@@@@@@@....
 
1:12 AM
you said
@bwoebi why the silence operator can be stacked? was this just an accident?
 
@marcio Because it accepts an expression as an operand.
 
Ah, I was thinking. If it is possible to write a preprocessor in PHP that sources PHP and targets PHP, it would be nice to make an implementation right. I'll take a look in a possible implementation on PHP's core too.
 
AN expression pretty much allows for anything that hasn't completed a satement.
 
ok, I'll give up @@ and look for something else
 
@HaskellCamargo You know there is already an implementation of PHP in PHP, right? github.com/ircmaxell/PHPPHP
 
1:17 AM
Yeah, I do.
I also like to hack the language. I've implemented pure object orientation, functional progamming and a Haskell-based type system by wrapping by contracts in PHP, muahaha.
From "Not because it must be made, but because we can make it".
 
@marcio %% should still work ^^
 
@HaskellCamargo Perhaps you should take a look at nikic.github.io/2012/07/27/…
A good read if you're interested in modifying the language syntax.
 
That's a nice article! I'll read it for sure.
 
@Sherif It's a nice baseline, but generally a real oversimplification… and a bit outdated with PHP 7
 
@bwoebi It's a place to start
 
@Sherif exactly
 
I don't like to write parsers with parser generators, neither lexers with'em (except for Haskell's Parsec, that is love). I don't think I have enough syntactic and semantic control on it, almost every new compiler I design, I do it by hand (I suck in this point).
 
@bwoebi ::: T_PAAMAYIM_NEKUDOTAYIM_PLUS_ANOTHER_NEKUDOTAYIM
 
PLUS_ANOTHER << in hebrev please
:-D
 
Let's CTRL+H all T_PAAMAYIM_NEKUDOTAYIM by T_DOUBLE_COLON and kill the history, muahahaha!
 
1:26 AM
@bwoebi how do we say "three times"?
 
no idea ^^
 
"two times" is PAAMAYIM, but online translators don't know that
 
^^
 
fyi, klingons have two colons
and it's not any nicer than PAAMAYIM_NEKUDOTAYIM
 
@HaskellCamargo Hand written parsers are awesome if you want absolute control, but daunting to maintain over a complex lexicon. I remember trying to write an operator precedence parser by hand in PHP: github.com/srgoogleguy/Mphp it was a fun to learn project, but I wouldn't ever want to maintain something like that.
 
1:28 AM
Will you really put another T_PAAMAYIM_NEKUDOTAYIM_PLUS_ANOTHER_MORE_DOTAYIM?
 
::: seems fine
%% too
 
Oh, yeah, and also CFGs are commonly harder to keep, more than PEGs.
%%keyword satan class
Maybe?
 
mono spaced %% looks better than :::
 
I hate my usage examples, yay.
 
I love how the people who complain the most about PHP's bastardized syntax are the ones spending the most amount of time trying to bastardize it even further :) ... just food for thought
3
 
1:31 AM
just embrace it
 
@Sherif no wonder… they're also the people how are revisting the syntax all the time…
 
shrug... More time worrying about syntax equates to less time solving non-cosmetic problems in my experience
 
I just want to get to a point I can add new language features without writing RFCs and discussing on the mailing lists
new :::Queue<Task>; // this expands to an anonymous class that extends "Queue" and changes typehints to "Task"
^ bastardized generics
 
@marcio Right, then PHP would be identical to all of those other languages where you can add new language features without writing RFCs and discussing.
 
When will we have first class classes?
Yay!
 
1:37 AM
@Sherif PHP pirated a million of features from these other languages, that's what it does
 
And what does that have anything to do with the process by which you modify the language? Every language copies something from some other language. That's how all programming languages came to be.
 
I think PHP misses a function composition operator also.
PHP didn't pirate ternary operator associativity, look at that!
 
@Sherif you said "then PHP would be identical to all of those other languages where you can add new language features without writing RFCs and discussing" like if it's a bad thing
 
Hello everyone. I have an interview today (possibly) on the position of backend developer, what should I really focus on? Do you maybe know any good question lists (I google a couple of those, so far no luck finding anything decent)
 
you are going circular in your argumentation
 
1:40 AM
@marcio I was mocking your comment that you wanted to get to a point where you can add new language features without writing RFCs and discussion, as if there is some language out there where you can simply change language features at your whim.
I think you're just having difficulty comprehending my words.
 
@Sherif yes, there are, to some extent
 
Really? Name one and to any extent.
Go ahead, I'll give you some time to Google.
 
And a link to a C library answers that question, how exactly?
 
@
 
1:43 AM
Well, the LiveScript's compiler is open to changes, extremally stable and with an easy way to extend its syntax.
 
I'm bored of this conversation now. I'm going to go do something more useful like watch water drip from my faucet.
 
what's the point of asking for example if you won't read it seriously?
 
@marcio I wonder whether we've ever been pirated any features? (except, well, Hack.)
 
@bwoebi we pirated the entire OO model from Java
 
1:46 AM
And we must take in account that Java is a terrible OO language and very bad designed in this aspect.
 
@HaskellCamargo Well, anyone can fork PHP and modify the language features all they want. But extending the language and getting your changes committed into the project are two different things.
 
@marcio not the entire one. Only the good parts :>
 
I don't believe classes are a good part of Java.
The Self almost-pure implementation of OO is based on prototypes and is very extensible and expressive.
One of the PHP errors was to copy Java OO model.
 
@marcio No matter how seriously I read what you say none of it will ever amount to defending the argument you pose that anyone should just be allowed to change PHP language features at their whim. PHP is used by millions of people around the world. If we just make it easy to start breaking all the code that's out there ... well what language does that for anyone?
 
@marcio but I asked whether we have ever been pirated by someone else?
 
1:48 AM
@bwoebi oh, no idea...
 
@marcio, we also must see that PHP is a big programming language, used by millions of developers and enterprise, and, thus, any changes should be well elaborated and analysed.
 
@bwoebi Well, PHP was the first language to use <? before XML.
XML actually stole those tags from PHP.
 
And first class functions are very similar to JS closures.
 
@Sherif Is XML newer than PHP?
 
But then again back then it wasn't actually called PHP :)
@bwoebi Yup
 
1:49 AM
@Sherif you've asked for an example and you got one, now that if it's doable for PHP or not it's an entire different discussion
 
Rasmus told me he was using <? before there was XML
 
lol
 
Rasmus also told he didn't know how to write parsers and PHP wasn't aimed to be a good designed proglang, just made to work, yay.
 
@HaskellCamargo of course, anything added should enable portable code
 
@marcio All I got was a github link to a library written in C. How is that an example of a language that lets anyone commit language feature changes without due process?
 
1:50 AM
lol
 
boring conversations are boring
 
@HaskellCamargo yeah, it was like a template language initially…
 
was?
 
At least PHP 5 > has a good support for functional programming, but currying is hard to implement in < 7 because (function() {}) is not considered "callable" by the compiler when it is a non bounded-to-variable expression.
 
@Sherif have you at least read the README?
3 mins ago, by Sherif
@marcio All I got was a github link to a library written in C. How is that an example of a language that lets anyone commit language feature changes without due process?
also, who the hell is talking about people commiting new features without request?
 
1:54 AM
@marcio I have. Believe me, my reading capabilities isn't the problem here. I suggest you revisit your thesis statement before asking me the same question for a third time and hoping that it will somehow magically get me to agree with your nonsensical argument.
 
@HaskellCamargo I wish there were still time for new RFCs, then I'd added short Closure syntax… will have to wait until PHP 7.1 then…
 
@marcio Because you write RFCs and discuss language feature changes on the PHP mailing list to NOT commit feature changes to PHP?
 
Ehm @marcio I also didn't get your point^^
 
The more you talk the more you demonstrate the lack of thought behind your words.
 
Ah, I'll be gracefull for that. A C# approach would be cool, taking care of implicit return:

`$add = ($x, $y) => $x + $y`

Or

`$add = ($x, $y) -> $x + $y`
 
1:56 AM
@bwoebi we are talking about using preprocessors to extend the language in some extent and he understood "let people commit new features without discussion" - that's what's happening
 
Also curried functions could be more easily implemented. LiveScript has "-->" operator for that.
 
Right, clearly your comment that you wish to abolish RFCs and mailing list discussion was to imply that you wanted to be able to do what you can already do today without said process.
My mistake. Clearly, I lack the 2 brain cells required to infer what you did not imply.
 
LOL not sure if this is trolling or real stupidity
 
@HaskellCamargo Current proposal is ~> operator. (because -> and => are already used for access or property access)
 
Can't the parser unambiguously guess the token?
 
1:58 AM
@HaskellCamargo [($a) => $a + $b] << key-value pair or Closure?
 
@HaskellCamargo -- is already an token though. You'd over complicated the tokenizer.
 
I see. It is ambiguous.
 
@Sherif and $foo-->$bar is even valid syntax
 
I never saw any language using +> operator for anything also, yay.
 
@bwoebi Sure
Why wouldn't it be
 
2:01 AM
The +> also has been discussed in SO, trying to find any language that uses it for something.
 
@HaskellCamargo You also can propose (>, :>, ^> etc… there are many possibilities
 
:>
 
:> is really beautiful.
 
andrea proposed this once for something related to array access
 
It is also the piping operator in RawrLang.
 
2:02 AM
#basterdizedPHPSyntax4everyone!
 
Collection [1 2 3] :> map (* 2)
 
I was looking for the RFC, but Andrea has too many RFCs
 
Do you guys know F#'s piping operator? (|>)
 
She has a new one every hour now.
I think I have an RSS feed of them.
Something strange happened in the last 4 years or so. I don't remember this many people this eager to work on PHP back then. Did someone put something in the water supply?
 
Maybe for a future implementation (theburningmonk.com/2011/09/…).
 
2:06 AM
$myArray['foobar']['andSoOn']['moreKeys'] // before
$myArray:>foobar:>andSoOn:>moreKeys // after

this looks funny :>
 
I would vote yes for this. That's a nice approach and JS already does that using property-access dot operator.
 
@HaskellCamargo I'm looking at the Harbour's preprocessor you mentioned earlier, it seems reusable
did we agree on %% ?
 
Oh, yeah, for sure. That's a nice one.
 
@HaskellCamargo now it begins looking like regex :-P
@Sherif PHP got better => more users motivated => and yeah
 
Haha, @bwoebi, look RawrLang syntax:
https://github.com/haskellcamargo/rawrlang

This would be regex! And it will allow operator overloading and operators will be translated as functions, as much as everything will be an object or a function.
 
2:15 AM
But also, @Sherif a lot of young people like me, Nikita and Andrea bring fresh blood in^^
 
I work, most of my time, when not in LiveScript, writing libraries for Totvs AdvPL programming language, for Protheus ERP. AdvPL is a terrible xBase based programming language, but has a cool preprocessor that allowed me to almost rewrite the lang it itself.
 
@Sherif ^ see what I'm talking about xD
 
In RawrLang, I use "~" to function call and, after identifier, whitespace for function application, to unambiguously differ "x" from "$x".
The "Inheritance and Contracts" works on old parser, but the code I wrote in it sucks, just it.
And the language has support for 100+ operators.
 
@marcio I'm not sure that anyone can see what you're talking about. You started off by implying that you didn't want an RFC process for new language features, which suggests you want to commit language feature changes to PHP without technical due diligence and now you're going on to suggest that what you actually meant to say was that you want to fork PHP and make it easier to extend the language, which is already possible today. So honestly, no. I can't see what you're talking about.
 
we were talking about using preprocessors to extend the language from userland, how that "implies" killing the RFC process ????
OMG
 
2:21 AM
You too agree with the same things, are talking about the same things, but neither of you did realize that.
 
@marcio Might have had something to do with your explicit statement of: "I just want to get to a point I can add new language features without writing RFCs and discussing on the mailing lists"
 
I'll take your Toddynho's out.
 
\o/
@Sherif BY USING A PREPROCESSOR not by commiting into master
 
@marcio Well, I can't imagine what using a preprocessor to extend the language has to do with writing RFCs and the mailing list... so you tell me what you meant when you said that.
 
GIMME UR TODDYNHOS.
 
2:23 AM
@Sherif exactly… it has nothing to do with it…
 
@Sherif because if you can extend the language from userland, to some extent, a lot of experiments can be done without RFCs, and you can just deliver stuff as composer packages.
Perhaps that's the missing gap? ^^
 
Do you guys think it is viable to write a port, after stable, of a preprocessor to Zend Engine or keep as a composer package?
 
@marcio Can't see any value coming out of userland language extensions. However, facebook did start a similar effort in HHVM. Perhaps you want to use that?
 
@HaskellCamargo If the package gets really successful... yep, the composer package could become just a polyfil for older versions
 
Well, then I'll take my free time to work on it.
 
2:27 AM
FWIW, I haven't seen a single successful extension come out of HHVM's extension API yet github.com/facebook/hhvm/wiki/Extension-API
 
HHVM isn't that pervasive yet
 
I wonder why
 
also @Sherif userland extensions != package with preprocessor directives like the one I linked to you earlier
 
What do you mean by preprocessor directive, exactly?
You linked me to an abstraction library for C.
 
2:37 AM
@Sherif this library uses the C preprocessor to create many language features. Give it a serious read.
 
A xBase based preprocessor to add features at user level, by directives, such as %%define or %%xtranslate.
 
@marcio And by language features you mean an abstraction library for C?
 
This would allow the correction of ternary operator precedence *on user level*, by, for example:

%%translate if <expr1> then <expr2> else <expr3> => ( <expr1> ) ? <expr2> : ( <expr3> )
 
^ that's not going to happen, this will never be fixed
 
That's why I said "on user level".
Who uses it can define a directive for that.
 
2:40 AM
Hi Folks, I have a huge array with ~3k entry, and I would like to reverse one of it subarray and count it before iterating in it, do someone would help me with this ?

My array is there : http://pastebin.com/2DtUzpVi and the subarray to reverse and count is "arrival"
 
@HaskellCamargo Well, PHP's usefulness is its extensibility. I've found very little evidence, in the 9 years I've been using PHP, to believe that changing language syntax proves of any added value to anyone that uses it.
 
@HaskellCamargo I got you, but I wouldn't advise that
 
I could implement this operator in Harbour by doing:

#xtranslate <cond> ? <ifTrue> : <ifFalse> => IIF( <cond>, ;
<ifTrue>, <ifFalse> )

And use:

Local cX = .T. ? "Foo" : "Bar"
 
@Sherif have you used a preprocessor before?
 
And this big extensibility allowed to me rewrite all the things in the right wat.
 
2:43 AM
What makes PHP great is that it's glue. You find a library or functionality that you like and you write an extension to make it available in PHP. Apart from that there's virtually no added value to the community in being able to modify PHP's syntax adhoc.
@marcio You mean apart from PHP?
 
php has no preprocessor layer
 
PHP is a preprocessor
 
https://prelude.readthedocs.org
This is written using Harbour's preprocessor.
 
It's in the name: PHP Hypertext Preprocessor
 
Morning
 
2:44 AM
Sherif, some domain specific languages and also general languages have preprocessors for common syntactic definitions and some, like Lisp or Rust, have for semantic definitions. This is a very powerful feature.
 
@Sherif haha … that's like saying jvm is a preprocessor
 
PHP is n Hypertext preprocessor. It is made to fit well with hypertext, but, differently of Foxpro or Habour, also C, you have no compile time features to hack syntax nor semantics.
 
It preprocesses the input before kernel is writing to stdout, yeah?
 
@bwoebi Is it? I can't imagine how.
 
Yeah, it does.
 
2:46 AM
ok, so we found the wall impeding the communication xD
 
Sherif, the implementation of tokenized preprocessor is very similar to a lexer. You just creates a table of tokens and, while compiling, searching for matching tokens to replace'em in time.
 
Or you do it as a complete prepass, like what we are intending to do with the stream wrapper
 
I don't believe you already worked with a language that uses the power of preprocessors, such as Lisp or Harbour. It really lets you set the domain of your problem and shape it into the language.
 
@bwoebi how to register a stream wrapper?
 
2:48 AM
don't even look at it ... i finally got it...
 
/me yawns
 
@bwoebi oh, I meant through a C extension
 
I also work with Mozilla's sweet JS, that is able to also parse the language to guess the substitution and compile to plain JS.
@Sherif stackoverflow.com/questions/267862/… Take a look on the power of macros
 
ah, that's what I need :D
I looked in the wrong place
 
2:52 AM
@marcio what sort of sorcery are you planning to do?
@marcio where did you look?
 
We are planning to write a complete xBase based preprocessor for PHP. That sounds satanic!
 
@marcio I just looked at code from stream_wrapper_register() and found that function 10 sec later.
 
@bwoebi wrong folder, stream is an extension and I thought it was core
 
@marcio sure, it's core… just not engine.
 
ok, ty :)
 
2:55 AM
2 mins ago, by bwoebi
@marcio what sort of sorcery are you planning to do?
 
2 mins ago, by Haskell Camargo
We are planning to write a complete xBase based preprocessor for PHP. That sounds satanic!
 
yeah, but how's that related to stream wrapper?
 
I want to include "satanic-preprocessor://some/file.php"
 
lol
@marcio may you please remove the limitations part from your RFC?
we voted on the RFC, but definitely not on that specific section :-P
 
2:57 AM
Will we not need to open a RFC for preprocessor, will we do it?
 
@bwoebi I'll add a box below the voting box clarifying the changes
 
@marcio inviting trolls to pick it up on internals? :>
 
@HaskellCamargo we need to make the experiment first and ask for input, put it to proof etc
@bwoebi we ask for input here
 
?
 
also, having it as a working composer package would be really cool first
@bwoebi no need to invite the other internals, just the ones here
if we use the stream wrapper we can make a slow preprocessor in PHP and only the files included through the wrapper will suffer the perf penalty
@HaskellCamargo you gave me access to the repository ^^ I'll put the wrapper in place and push later. Leaving now.
 
3:11 AM
Ah, ok! I'm also going to sleep, see you!
 
 
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4:44 AM
php.net/releases/5_3_0.php says: "Removed the following extensions: ext/mhash (see ext/hash), ext/msql, ext/pspell (see ext/enchant), ext/sybase (see ext/sybase_ct)" I checked master and pspell is still there. So was it deprecated or not, or did someone forget to remove it?
 
hi everyone help me with it
$first_key =($expkey[0]);
if ($xml->getElementsByTagName($first_key)->length == 0) {
$xml_element = $xml-> createElement($first_key,"");
$xml->appendChild($xml_element);
}
now i want if ($expkey[0]) is test create element <test/> but if ($expkey[0])changes jump to some other value lets say test 1 than not to create any element . how to implement this
 
 
2 hours later…
6:21 AM
Morning
 
6:37 AM
@tereško yeah, of course, I will check every part in other stores before ordering, still, it's better to order in a popular store with a bit of overprice. have you ordered something at maxpro?
good morning
 
7:00 AM
morning
 
7:11 AM
Morngiog
 
morning!
 
moin
 
7:58 AM
Morning
 
Morning
 
freelancer job market is getting bleak
 
8:12 AM
morning
 
morning
 
indeed
 
Am I the only one who thinks this monday (that not even is a monday) is the worst?
2
 
morning
 
8:34 AM
morning
 
http://thecodinglove.com/post/119924598307
The coding love
When I am the only available developer in the office
kbironneau
1432629032
 
8:55 AM
 
@SergeyTelshevsky I ordered from maxpro cpu and ram
didn't have any problems in particular
morning
 
moin
 
do you mean put some code in the textarea ?
<textarea><?php echo $info ? $info->message : '';?></textarea>
 
@Jay I recommend a basic PHP tutorial that goes over form submission...
 
@tereško nice, then they can be trusted I guess
 
@SergeyTelshevsky yes, but their web-shop cannot be 100% trusted. I also tried to order video card from them, but few hours later received a mail that, they actually don't have it.
/me opted to pay on delivery in cash
.. seemed like a good way to utilize my undocumented part of salary
 
@tereško that's completely normal, same with dataleks, I guess only 1a and 220 have real figures in "in stock"
@tereško that's how I buy everything too :)
@Jay contents of <textarea> can only be a string.
 
@Jay seriously, if you can't do that without help you need a basic PHP tutorial...
nothing wrong with that btw
 
yes i agree with patrick
 
@SergeyTelshevsky talking about dataleks, are you sure that you want that cooler? because there were multiple reports on the internet that it's fan has a tendency to fail
 
9:11 AM
anyone knows about MATLAB
i've a question about it
 
@tereško no, I already started looking into the ones you suggested, I simply had some madness going on on the work, at home and everywhere else :)
 
just a hint , you can do $_POST array once you have that you can distribute the text and save it via .txt
 
figured that
 
Hello Folks
 
9:13 AM
@SergeyTelshevsky there is only one thing you have to worry about, regarding air cooling units: you have picked a high-profile ram - you need to make sure that coller doesn't interfere with ram
 
@tereško how can it interfere? they are placed in different locations, aren't they?
 
those custom air coollers have large radiators + they have (usually) 120mm fans
and the ram is always positioned really close to the CPU
 
@SergeyTelshevsky sometimes CPU coolers can get so big that they touch RAM or even opposite wall of the case
 
this is for your chosen board
 
i once owned a gpu that was so big that it couldn't even fit in the cabinet
 
9:25 AM
this is why I went with closed-loop water cooling unit (that that's several times more expensive)
 
 
@Worf my gpu is bigger than your gpu
 
nice mobo @tereško
 
@Jimbo apart that gpu is probably older than you
well, quite
 
9:29 AM
@boyee it's for @SergeyTelshevsky's build. He picked Asus Z97-P
@Worf wow, video card with nor radiators, heat-pipes and fans .. must be from 2000th
 
@Jimbo Yeh but yours is a terafloppy
 
=P
 
those were the days
@tereško it used to have an heatsink on it, not in the picture. it's a ti4800 nvidia
and yes, 2000 ish
 
I was off by two years
 
@Jay No worries. that's part of learning new things, at least for me :)
 
9:32 AM
@DaveRandom I read it the first time :P
(and couldn't think of anything in response, nicely done!)
 
@Jimbo That's... what she said?
 
lol
 
But yeh, I can't let typos stand if its within edit window... it's a disease
 
@tereško how should I read the sizes of fans then? which size should I bother about? the width?
@tereško so the max width should be about 100mm?
and any of the ones you added to the document won't fit?
 
@SergeyTelshevsky you will most likely orient the rad so that the fan pushed air thought the rad towards the back exhaust.
this means that the width can be up to 180mm with no problems whatsoever
 
9:37 AM
I see, same goes for the height, right?
 
yeah
 
@tereško and it will look like this?
 
yeah
 
@SergeyTelshevsky Holy fuck. If you put that thing outside it will collect energy instead of spend it
 
the problems come from the fact that there is RAM on the same side as the fan
 
9:39 AM
@PeeHaa xkcd.com/1378 .
2
 
:D
 
@PeeHaa peasant
 
@tereško does this require for the cooler to have some special lockings?
 
:P
 
@PeeHaa lol :) not my setup though
 
9:41 AM
@SergeyTelshevsky the coolers will probably come with custom mounts , but they are said to be compatible with your CPU socket
 
great, I think I'll take the Cooler Master Hyper T4
 
@SergeyTelshevsky it seems that it will fit OK
it has length of 79mm with fan attached
and your case supports 158mm high (the T4 is 152mm high)
 
great
@tereško you still didn't answer me which type of booze do you prefer
 
meh, don't bother
I like to do this stuff
 
9:56 AM
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Q: Automatic generation of Form from XML data & then generation of XML from form - PHP

Rozeenamy code is working for a certain level of xml but my logic needs to get modified as i want it to work for everytype of xml file whatever element i add in the xml is readable and can be edited . Please amend my code generatexml.php if you can that will be really a help . Thankyou in advance. g...

 

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