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12:00 AM
That kind of just about works for simple objects and code e.g. the helper stuff that you use to display objects on a page as html, so long as the wind doesn't change direction.
 
12:28 AM
@Andrea you definitely can. In fact, that may be easier
tho compiling from a CFG is easier still (since you just descend the graph recursively, emitting code as you go)
 
12:59 AM
@salathe sup?
 
1:28 AM
hi
 
 
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3:38 AM
hello...
 
4:08 AM
Hello
 
how r u?
 
fine
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Q: Issue in get the start and end dates of all weeks between two dates in Mysql

Harshal Kalavadiyai want to display all week dates in between choosing start date to end date so i try following code <? $signupweek='2015-05-21'; /*start day*/ for($i = 0; $i <7 ; $i++) { $date = date('Y-m-d', strtotime("-".$i."days", strtotime($signupweek))); $dayName = date('D', strtotime($date)); if(...

you have idea about my question ?
 
 
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6:05 AM
@PeeHaa nope i had to pause it. so far i didn't test it much since i'm trying php7 stuff and i don't have concrete apps running yet
 
6:25 AM
Hi every body i have one issue if you help me greatly appriciatedf
how can i create this time sheet in my sql
?
is it possible ti create in one tale or i need to make two
any budy there ?
wo can help me ?
 
PSR-7 was accepted :(
and good mornin
 
6:47 AM
Morning pretties
 
7:02 AM
hi, please take a look at : stackoverflow.com/questions/30213461/…
 
Morning
@Worf kk
 
can't cv because of bounty(
 
@PeeHaa that is terrible indeed
 
7:14 AM
inorite
 
@SergeyTelshevsky I've read the FAQ and I still don't understand why that question is a bad fit. It sounds to me like the question is asking what algorithms are appropriate for a specific programming problem. Isn't that what stackoverflow is meant for? Maybe the wording is a bit unlucky, but in that case it would be more helpful to rephrase than to close.
 
@LeviMorrison yeah [insert it's something meme here] would be already great to have full php 5.6 support -__-
 
@JoeriSebrechts 1) You didn't post any research you made yourself. 2) You didn't tell what did you try to make it work, where did you fail. 3) This question will receive ONLY opinionated answers, which is not what stackoverflow is for.
 
@kelunik are you somehow involved in phpstorm development?
 
@Worf nope, why?
 
7:19 AM
@JoeriSebrechts you may try asking your question on programmers.stackexchange.com
 
I didn't ask that question, I'm just trying to understand why you think it should be closed
 
sorry for random ping, i thought you were. but you probably just reported a bug, i remember your avatar @kelunik
 
Yeah, I reported multiple annoying bugs.
 
links?
 
i don't understand how you could think the answers would be opinion-based. It's a very specific programming problem related to image analysis. The answers would need to point to specific algorithms. I would answer it myself if I knew more about image processing.
 
7:21 AM
@JoeriSebrechts oh, sorry, I thought you were the author
 
i am very disappointed by phpstorm 8. i basically paid for a full year and i didn't receive any significant update. and i know my subscription will end before phpstorm 9 will be released -__-
 
anyway, it doesn't matter that much, but the CV madness is why i've pretty much stopped participating in stackoverflow. I think way too many useful questions get closed, leaving people stranded. It's not about maintaining the quality of the site anymore, it's regulitis.
 
7:25 AM
@PeeHaa yes
 
@Worf You should include your code samples as plain text, so they can be executed.
 
@JoeriSebrechts this question is really a "help me do this I don't know what to do" but using different words. This is a nice question, probably anyone with knowledge in OCR would solve it in minutes. That's what specialised forums are for. There is also programmers.stackexchange, where you may ask this kind of "general" questions. StackOverflow is really for questions that have an answer that is undebatable.
 
ok adding them now
 
@PeeHaa could you ping me quickly in amp-chat? @bwoebi and @rdlowrey are sleeping. :P
 
@SergeyTelshevsky if you look past the wording the question is saying "I have this image, I need to detect which answers were marked, what technique or algorithm can I use to solve this problem?". Specific problem, and a correct answer would be undebatable because it would solve that specific problem. Anyway, if the question is a better fit for programmers.se, then it should be moved, not closed.
 
7:52 AM
morning fellows!
 
Hoppy friday :)
 
Gotta get down on friday
 
What is this sorcery of a friday? :O
 
Morning
 
It's nice because this coming monday is a holiday! Yay extended weekend!
 
8:12 AM
Geek Pride Day (Spanish: Día del orgullo friki ) is an initiative to promote geek culture, celebrated annually on 25 May. The date was chosen as to commemorate the 1977 release of Star Wars, but shares the same date as two other similar fan "holidays": Towel Day, for fans of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy trilogy by Douglas Adams, and the Glorious 25th of May for fans of Terry Pratchett's Discworld. The initiative originated in Spain in 2006 as "Día del Orgullo Friki" and spread around the world via the Internet. == Origins == Tim McEachern organized unconnected events called Geek P...
TIL
 
no.
 
:P
 
It's something about jesus I think
 
@Epodax all next week is a holiday, for me! *happy dance*
 
@salathe Burn the witch! How long does it take to get a VISA in your country?
 
8:20 AM
@Epodax oh .. it's some "Passover thing"
 
@Epodax woa. i thought we were unbeatable with pointless religious celebrations
 
/me has been watching BibleReloaded videos on youtube
that shit is crazy
 
@Epodax Only Monday is a bank holiday. I'm just taking some much-needed time off for the rest of the week. :)
 
how can i not watch this?
 
8:21 AM
yeah , that one
 
added to the list :D
 
it's the "AtheistsBible Study" series (the production values rise as the time goes on)
 
@Worf Isn't all religious celebrations pointless? Not to bash on religious people or that I'm complaining about getting time off.
 
pointless you are correct, they all are :D
 
@kelunik Sorry was AFK
pinged
ty mr @Gordon
 
8:31 AM
moin
 
Yo Chris o/
 
posted on May 22, 2015 by kbironneau

/* by SplasH */

 
\o
No tricks, just Rebecca
11
 
Morndom
 
8:48 AM
He's a what?
@tereško In response to your comment about Rails: understand how I feel in my previous job having to work with a custom PHP framework (global static everything) that was based on rails
 
@ircmaxell Howdy, did you want someone or just to say hi? :)
 
I have had that experience too
but you dont need a shitty custom framework for that, you just need to be stuck with pre-2010 codeigniter/cake project
 
@salathe github.com/php/web-people/pull/7 if you have 5 minutes :)
 
'ello
 
'allo
 
8:56 AM
'ollo
 
'yolo
 
'erro
 
@salathe Oh. Damn. Thought it was just a typo. It's an consitent error instead
?
 
there's only two more "happend"
 
:'(
 
8:57 AM
@salathe Will update PR
 
:'D
 
Just open sourced my real time analytics library github.com/srgoogleguy/webSAT need to see if I can get some buy-in :)
My github has been building cobwebs of late
It's about time I put something new out there
 
@Sherif Why would anyone want their microwave to send data to a beacon?
 
Why not?!
 
Because my Microwave makes a DING when it's done
 
9:01 AM
mmmmmh bacon
 
I don't need no cloud to tell me that!
 
@Sherif needs more bacon (right, @Worf?)
 
@salathe mmm indeed... You can never have enough bacon!
git add bacon; git commit -m "bacon!"
 
good mornings
 
all of the mornings are good?
Sounds suspicious...
 
9:04 AM
Or is it the good that are mornings?
 
@Sherif can i swap out redis or some other key-value store in place of memcached?
 
@salathe A daemon for making stuff happen?
 
@salathe Of course, you just include that as your dependency in the consumer script and inject it into the worker.
 
@DaveRandom :P
 
I should have probably written more self-documenting code and used less analogies in my naming conventions, perhaps.
 
9:06 AM
@DaveRandom that's an awesome idea *trademarks name*
 
@salathe systemd already did it
 
@Sherif and more unicorns, and rainbows, in your diagram(s) :)
 
Satellite == Consumer .. Microwave == Worker .. Beacon == Producer .. Station == Consumer/DI-Container/PetriDish
sigh too much confusing
@salathe I ran out of unicorns :/
 
@Sherif What if people don't have a Microwave? Can a Oven be used instead?
 
@Epodax Hey, it's open source. Anything is possible!
 
9:09 AM
How about a toaster?
 
That will be one flimsy webserver if you're using a toaster.
I suppose if you're running this on a raspberry pi maybe.
 
People wouldn't get mad, I'd just shove a toast in their mouth every time they complain.
 
Station ^^ :)
<3 Bill and Ted
 
I'm really liking this ZeroMQ thing :)
 
9:23 AM
@DaveRandom Listened to the whole song. Made a mistake.
 
Mistakes were made
 
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Q: How to not throw a coworker under a bus?

nobrandheroesI appologize if the title is too idiomatic, but I don't know how to explain the case without it. Short version(non-technical). I have a coworker who has for some reason or another not learned a necessary skill that equates to 5 minutes of skimming a manual or looking up a YouTube video. Really, ...

 
too idiomatic
 
9:49 AM
any laravel guy??
 
@SyedObaidUllahNaqvi We're real devs in here :-)
 
yea @Jim
@Jimbo Yea I know :) but I am stuck in tiny thing in laravel in eloquent
 
Try tweeting Taylor Otwell, he knows a little about it.
 
@Fabor He's also a dick to many people... I was proud of the PHP community until I saw his tweets
 
@Jimbo All the more reason to tweet him :P
 
9:55 AM
Haha
 
Is tweeting still a thing?
 
@SyedObaidUllahNaqvi I recommend just asking a SO question man, you'll likely get a fast response as it's quite popular atm :-)
 
WHat ISO# is stuff like nl_NL. Or isn't that an ISO standard?
 
ISO 639-1:2002, Codes for the representation of names of languages — Part 1: Alpha-2 code, is the first part of the ISO 639 series of international standards for language codes. Part 1 covers the registration of two-letter codes. There are 136 two-letter codes registered. The registered codes cover the world's major languages. These codes are a useful international, and formal, shorthand for indicating languages. For example: Armenian is represented by hy (from the endonym հայերէն, Hayeren) Dutch is represented by nl (from the endonym Nederlands) English is represented by en Esperanto is represented...
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An IETF language tag is an abbreviated language code (for example, en for English, pt-BR for Brazilian Portuguese, or nan-Hant-TW for Min Nan Chinese as spoken in Taiwan using traditional Han characters) defined by the Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF) in the BCP 47 document series, which is currently composed of normative RFC 5646 (referencing the related RFC 5645) and RFC 4647, along with the normative content of the IANA Language Subtag Registry. Components of language tags are drawn from ISO 639, ISO 15924, ISO 3166-1, and UN M.49. These language tags are used in a number of modern computing...
 
10:04 AM
heh
I just went through this list of wikipedia pages
not sure of the answer
 
@DaveRandom ding ding ding!
 
@DaveRandom Should I also use - instead of _?
 
anyone got a VM at hand and can tell me what they get for running this 3v4l.org/YkZaA?
 
@Gordon 0.68959403038025
PHP 5.6.8
 
@Fabor how strong is that VM?
 
10:13 AM
6
 
Virtualbox Centos 6.6 64bit, 4GB ram, 2 CPUs running on an SSD
 
@Fabor thanks
 
np
 
@PeeHaa The underscore seems to be a POSIX affectation, I'm guessing it's a "perl word" affectation or something.
 
So for the translation files in opcache. Should I use POSIX or not? I think POSIX looks familiar to everybody?
 
10:22 AM
I'd go with the underscore, personally. Difficult to explain why. If you are allowing freeform user input everywhere then probably strtr($str, '-', '_') somewhere though, to allow both
 
Neh I just want to pick one format and use that. I will go for underscore because it looks the nicest to me
 
lol!
 
> Human beings on our planet have, past and present, used a number of languages. sauce
What was your specialist subject again? Ahh, yes, "the bleedin' obvious".
 
haha
 
10:35 AM
Woah, twitter keeps giving me raw JSON about 1 in every 5 page loads :-S
 
@DaveRandom Don't tell anyone and make an API around it, that makes 5x requests per API request ;-)
 
thanx guys for your time
 
Brilliant! what a great and easy way to work around the fact that they don't have an API! Oh wait...
 
@PeeHee y u no fixed typo yet?
 
Oh many I haven't had a chocolate bourbon in years. Damn you Dave
How's the strawb boxes going?
 
10:49 AM
@DaveRandom twitter keeps giving me twitter at every page load, since the time began
 
chocolate bourbon? what?
` $chocolate = 'good';
$bourbon = 'good';

$mix = $chocolate + $bourbon;
$mix_taste = 'bad'; `
 
after several months of twitter, i still have no idea what clicking things will do. worst UX ever
 
@Epodax heh. It's a British biscuit.
 
Silly brits.
 
11:08 AM
@Worf That's a pretty serious bug. You should report it to their bug tracker.
 
lol
 
@Epodax Not sure. Chocolate Baileys works surprisingly well. (I know it's not bourbon, but I'm not a fan of Baileys or Whiskey in general and I actually quite like that stuff)
 
@DaveRandom I though all bailey was chocolateish
 
Going down it's fine @DaveRandom, coming back up... not so great.
 
note to @SergeyTelshevsky, I actually really hate that 1A site, because they have those 2-day discounts on shit.
it actually ends up as a predatory practice, because by the time people (especially computer-illiterate ones) get to buying part, the discount is gone
had that happen few weeks ago: someone asked me to recommend a laptops (skill level: does not understand how file saving works) .. I looked up a laptop with ~25% discount
by the time that person actually bought it, the discount was gone
 
11:25 AM
Did they not look at the price they were paying and realise it was not the price you said, though?
With the best will in the world, there's a Darwinian element to people being caught out by things like that, I mean it's a 2 day discount, not a 2 minute discount...
 
@DaveRandom yes, but that person saw that there was another discount on it (something like 5%) and decided not to call me
and,yes, with that 5% discount it was more expensive then in other places without the discount
 
yeh that's pretty underhand
Remember kids, compliance is not necessarily security. http://t.co/1HUOHVVbFm
 
Anonymous
how hard is using server name indication?
 
Anonymous
Server Name Indication (SNI) is an extension to the TLS computer networking protocol by which a client indicates which hostname it is attempting to connect to at the start of the handshaking process. This allows a server to present multiple certificates on the same IP address and TCP port number and hence allows multiple secure (HTTPS) websites (or any other Service over TLS) to be served off the same IP address without requiring all those sites to use the same certificate. It is the conceptual equivalent to HTTP/1.1 name-based virtual hosting, but for HTTPS. To make use of SNI practical, the vast...
 
Anonymous
has anyone tried it?
 
11:36 AM
@tereško I tend to look up things once again just before ordering. Good thing we have services like salidzini & kurpirkt
will start ordering part by part beginning with case, mobo and psu, I think
 
keep in mind that there are shipping costs
 
@samaYo It's pretty much standard these days. The only things that don't support it are clients that I personally stopped caring about years ago.
Configuring it on the server side is trivial
 
yes, of course, if it's near, I'll take my order myself
 
Anonymous
@DaveRandom How do you deal with the browser asking the client about the cert. or trust issues?
 
@SergeyTelshevsky In the UK this often doesn't save you anything, many places charge you a "reservation fee" regardless. I'm not sure how they are still getting away with it :-(
 
Anonymous
11:40 AM
that is my main concern
 
anyone know how to import reminders on iOS >=8.0? Is there a file format? Some sort of native handler for requesting HTTP resources of that format?
 
@DaveRandom I think if I'd come up to them and the would tell me something about things like that I'd turn away and that's it
 
@samaYo So the whole point of SNI is that this doesn't happen (unless there's something wrong with your certificate, in which case it would happen SNI or not). The underlying problem is that a certificate is generally issued to a DNS name, but with HTTP the server does not know the DNS name that the client used to access the server until after the connection has been established and AL data is exchanged.
SNI allows the client to indicate the DNS name it used to the server before the server decides which certificate to present to the client. That's it, it doesn't do anything else.
The client needs to support the SNI TLS extension in order for it to work, but the only things that don't support this are things I don't care about that are also badly broken in other ways (IE on XP, old Java)
 
@DanLugg Isn't that just vcal?
 
There's something else, the name of which escapes me, which is a certificate-level work-around for the same issue, which cloudfront have started rolling out recently, and this has more serious client support issues (Chrome on XP, older Safari), but SNI is pretty safe
@DanLugg What you do is connect your phone to your exchange server and leave the problem to Microsoft.
 
11:47 AM
my pc is not making sense.... anyone: pastebin.com/Rhfz5Jwx ?
basically git clone doesn't work
 
looks like you have a virus named 'Windows' something
@MarcelBurkhard on a serious note, does cloning from github work?
 
@PeeHaa i'm not sure, do you know of any docs on it?
@DaveRandom serious or not, the last thing I want to do is introduce Microsoft into this problem, LOL
 
Anonymous
@DaveRandom The only reason I'm interested in using SNI is for hidding my virtual hosts from a reverse DNS query. Currently anyone can find how many domains are hosted in a single IP address using sites like sameid.net and it seems the only way to prevent this is to use a unique IP per website or SNI.
 
See also Victorian Certificate of Applied Learning (VCAL), vCalendar. vCal is an open source calendar standard for Vision PIM. VCal can export itself to an RSS/RDF/WDP feed or publish itself to the internet using WebDAV and PHP. It can be exported to the iCalendar or vCalendar formats as well. VCal is not to be confused with the better known vCalendar format in that it is a completely different format. VisionDocument=VCAL; VisionVersion=1.0; X-Generator=Vision Calendar; {calendar} Name=Test%spCalendar; X-Description...
 
Anonymous
As you said SNI isn't that hard to implement, but without a commercial cert., visitors to my sites will get prompt response from all browsers whether or not they trust the site's certificate. That's the issue here.
 
Anonymous
11:57 AM
@DaveRandom
 
@SergeyTelshevsky cloning even works from the same server using another user
 
Hmm
 
@SergeyTelshevsky and yes I just tried, works with github
I think it must be sending the wrong public key somehow, but I don't know how to verify/change that
auth.log:
May 22 13:46:12 testserver sshd[18349]: pam_unix(sshd:auth): authentication failure; logname= uid=0 euid=0 tty=ssh ruser= rhost=pc32.vendor.lan user=marcel-burkhard
a clue, anyone? :-S
 
@MarcelBurkhard you may try specifying it in ssh hosts like here gist.github.com/jexchan/2351996#modify-the-ssh-config
 
@SergeyTelshevsky my git uses plink (putty)
 
12:07 PM
@samaYo Yeh, but that has nothing to do with SNI. Why would RDNS matter, though?
@MarcelBurkhard the first step is to determine why the server rejected the connection, look at the server logs. Stabbing around with SSH keys might fix the problem, but it might not, and if it doesn't then you're wasting your time.
@samaYo btw, using SNI won't stop things like sameid working, they don't figure it out by querying the server, they work from things like DNS caches.
 
@DaveRandom I already posted the log (auth.log) above, or what log do you mean?
 
Also "work" is generous. And they don't really reveal any useful information anyway.
@MarcelBurkhard Ahh sorry, missed that. Can you turn logging verbosity up somehow? There will probably be a setting that will log the specific reason for the auth failure
 
@DaveRandom I'll try
 
Anonymous
@DaveRandom Hmm didn't know that. I asked a question once in SO, it seemed to indicate that SNI or unique IP were the only ways it could get done. Anyway, all my sites are hosted in a single VPS, some are personal and some aren't. I just wanted to keep their identity anonymous
 
@samaYo Knowing that sites are served from a particular IP address doesn't really solve anything. For example, there are probably hundreds/thousands of sites that appear to be hosted on a single address using something like cloudfront... but knowing this doesn't really reveal any useful info whatsoever to anyone.
 
12:14 PM
morning
 
That is hilarious
I can't tell if he's trolling or what I am stuck in the car which is responding wrongly..
 
Anonymous
@DaveRandom Yes I know that. With shared hosting, I had the same experience but in my case it's a bit different, I have 7 sites only, and they are in some ways similar, so it easy to guess they are managed / hosted together. Just imagine if you had a porn site, and your personal website with your info hosted together in the same IP.
 
Anonymous
Anyway, I will just keep my personal site off and host it separately.
 
@samaYo Can't you just get another IP?
 
Anonymous
12:22 PM
@DaveRandom Yeah, but with moar ca$h for sure.
 
Well yeh, but probably less cash that a whole new VPS...
 
does ...unpacking work also on classes implementing Iterator/ArrayAccess/Whatever ?
 
@samaYo an ip is like $1 :P
 
@Worf array and Traversable
 
cool
 
Anonymous
12:24 PM
@PeeHaa Are you sure? per year/month?
 
Anonymous
else I'll try one of these hosts that offer $5/year ...
 
@Worf Traversable doesn't work on HHVM apparently: 3v4l.org/ZQutg (code sample from RFC)
 
@samaYo He's right. Unless you have a horrifyingly bad host IPs are stupid cheap per month
 
@zan best question in a while
 
@DaveRandom A lot of things don't work in HHVM...
If the feature is from PHP >= 5.5 it will likely not fully work on HHVM
 
12:28 PM
Yeh I know and I also don't particularly care, just pointing it out for completeness
 
@samaYo When I click on the "add ipv4" button in my control panel I have to pay $1 extra p/m
 
Anonymous
I'll check the tilaa dashboard
 
For the record: I believe this whole thing is a pointless exercise, there's really no gain in hiding the fact that two sites are hosted behind the same public IP, it means nothing to anyone. I could be routing one of them over SOCKS to a server on the other side of the earth behind that entry point, for all you know.
 
I agree with @DaveRandom. I've run in SEO circles for a long time and while the rumor of a "bad IP" still persists, nobody has ever had a use case where a bad site harmed a good site sharing the same IP
the only reason for a different IP that I know of is SSL, and SNI has reduced the need for that
 
12:36 PM
From my PoV it's now entirely eliminated that need, there are no clients that matter that don't support it any more.
 
@Machavity Unless you are also using it to send mails cc @DaveRandom
 
...which would be a stupid thing to do anyway
 
@PeeHaa Yeah. Email notwithstanding (have been bit by Spamhaus before)
 
@DaveRandom /me looks at his server. Yeah yeah stupid. I was just asking for a friend... :P
 
@PeeHaa Y U NO RELAY?!?!?!?
hell, relay through gmail if you have to...
 
12:39 PM
I want to prevent google anything
I should probably relay using my mail provider yeah
 
To summarise in a nutshell why this is a good idea: mail providers are easy to change, IP addresses not so much, and un-blacklisting yourself can be tricky
 
@DaveRandom Actually Spamhaus is easy to delist. You just have to make sure the cause of the spam in the first place is resolved, or then it does get hard
Worst I've had with them was when they blacklisted all of Cloudflare. That was a pain
 
@Machavity I've had issues with providers recycling IPs from previous persistent offenders, then it can get really difficult to persuade the blacklisters that you are no the same person
 
@zan Haha, his responses are good
> "Mouth is undefined" - "Okay, let me try defined and I'll get back to you"
 
@DaveRandom Ah. We don't change IPs often so i've not hit that one
 
12:45 PM
Browser impls that ssl labs use that don't support SNI: Android 2.3.7, IE 6 / XP, IE 8 / XP, Java 6u45 (for the record). I don't care about supporting any of these and I doubt any of you do either.
Except maybe @DanLugg and @ChrisBaker, because you guys seem to support comically legacy stuff sometimes
 
@DaveRandom Related \o/
That's like my first a+ ever for anything
 
@Machavity I don't either, I've only run into it once when I moved my VPS to my current provider (and to be fair, when I had the problem I went to the VPS provider with it and they gave me a new IP in about 5 mins, no issues since then)
 
@DaveRandom Comical from the outward eye; I'm dying inside.
 
@DaveRandom You forgot @Charles in that list I think
 
Dunno, I know he has an ancient codebase but I think they're quite forward thinking in terms of client feature support? Maybe I made that up
 
12:49 PM
is USA filled with stupid people ?
 
I assumed all his clients are running on IE^ and lower hearing all those horror stories about the codebase
 
@PeeHaa What's you're current cipher list, out of interest? I spent ages pissing around with mine yesterday in the wake of <whatever stupid name they gave to the DH issues>
 
@tereško Does the pope molest children?
 
@tereško I dunno about filled but we have a proportional stupidity. probably on par with the EU. Why?
 
@tereško I don't think that's specific to the USA. EU seems to have similar issues.
 
12:50 PM
@DaveRandom I have no ssl config to rule them all right now. One moment let me grab the .cnf
 
ok, that's not fair questions
"Is USA media an politics filled with stupid people?"
 
@tereško The answer is yes :D
 
@DaveRandom IE6 went out the window with the final nail in the RC4 coffin. I mean when the official SSL filters for AWS have dropped them you know it's bad
 
.... so, there is this guy (Bernie Sanders) who proposed free college for either everyone or everyone who is poor .. nice gesture, but really fucking irresponsible
 
Sorry it is a screenshot, because I changed my password and I locked myself out of ssh :)
 
12:53 PM
@tereško Isn't that pretty close to how higher education works in more progressive countries?
 
and then everyone in media/politics are starting to say that it's pointless to give money to lazy/stupid poor people
 
I think it might help to understand that there's 3 reasons to run for Pres.
1. You want to be President
2. You hope someone will pick you to be their running mate and thus become VP
3. You want to raise your stature in American society
Bernie Sanders is category #3
 
@DaveRandom HSTS is what made the grade go from A to A+
 
See also Ralph Nader
 
@NikiC I am not sure how it is in old europe, with in 3rd world country where I live, each university has sponsored "budget seats", for 10-50% of top students
 
12:55 PM
@Machavity It went out a long time before that, for me. The SSL issues are very much secondary.
 
that way people who want to study, but are poor can do it, if they put effort in it
 
@PeeHaa I heard they're going to mandate public key pinning for A+ soon
@PeeHaa well done, good skills
 
@DaveRandom Good thing I have set that up yesterday :)
 
I cba with that atm, mostly because I still haven't worked out how to sanely store my private keys
 
@DaveRandom Thank you. It was hard to get where I am. Looking yourself out is a talent
 
12:57 PM
@tereško Here in Germany university is practically free (what you pay you mainly pay for your public transport ticket) and available to everyone who has finished the right type of school.
 
@DaveRandom Huh? Define sane? Or rather define not sane and why? :)
 
I don't want a pen drive or whatever because I'll lose it, I don't want to put it on some cloud thing because obvious reasons, and I don't want to store it on some local machine because I know one day that machine will die and I will lose it
 
Damnit this webbased interface to my VPS doesn't capture the esc key :|
 
I realise that the first problem is an issue of my own idiocy, but I can't really work around it
 
@NikiC you also happen to live in one of the richest countries in europe
 
12:59 PM
@tereško In Denmark you get paid to study. No matter how high / low the university / school (or student) is. (High school isn't paid but still free)
 

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