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9:08 PM
Hey guys
anyone with good codeigniter exp?
 
ugh
only in my nightmares
 
@MichaelRobinson why? I think, it's good to work with MVC
Every pro must work
 
@TuralTeyyuboglu to be fair, I've only worked with old, old, old. versions
 
@MichaelRobinson hmmm. ok.
 
9:34 PM
@TuralTeyyuboglu , what CI does is not MVC , and it definitely is not OOP .. or even made to be used with PHP5
and i find it hard to see anyone who praises CI as even remotely professional
 
yeah definitely. double
 
the pattern, which CI is implementing is called MVP .. and they are quite bad at it
but you won't find it on their page , because it's not good marketing
every "professional" wants to use eM Vee Cee
 
@tereško ok ok. Thx for your comments.
 
9:42 PM
#!/bin/bash
# Find all 'unique' urls in your log files.

awk '$9!="404" && $9!="500" {print $7}' "$1" \
| grep -ivE '(.gif|.jpg|.png|.js|.css|.swf)' \
| sed 's/\?.*//g' \
| sed 's/(.+)\/$/$1/g' \
| sort \
| uniq -c \
| sort -rn
Webalizer, AWStats? Who needs those?
Want to run on all your gzipped stuff? No problem: zcat /var/log/apache2/access*.gz | {path_to_above_program} /dev/stdin >results.txt
(Although that one is still running, so I'm not entirely sure it's correct :)
 
@TuralTeyyuboglu , the thing is , if you will take a two weeks and seriously re-learn OOP , you will be able to see the problems in CI yourself
what you were taught in school/university and your "basic php" book is wrong
not because they wanted you to teach wrong thing , but because it was over-simplified
and causes people to draw the wrong conclusions
it is quite hard for people who understand Law of Demeter to still be convinced that PHP frameworks contain high quality code
 
@tereško My PHP knowledge is enough to select which solution fits best to my needs. I did't learn PHP from any "school" book. OK?
 
@TuralTeyyuboglu Even worse, you learned it from teh internetz.
 
so .. what you basically are trying to say is : "shut the fcuk up and let me be ignorant"
 
I'm not trying to sound harsh, Tural, but as much as I dislike saying it, @tereško is right.
 
9:53 PM
@LeviMorrison Where to learn, then? Lool))) from space?
 
w3chools.com student here....:D
 
@user705339 , then you really should read w3fools.com .. seriously
 
@tereško I have.....which is why I bought a PHP book, and keep asking questions
 
@tereško I think he may have been referring to @TuralTeyyuboglu with his comment.
 
@tereško I didn't say anything like that.
 
9:54 PM
heh
 
@tereško I'm taking great pains to not have an MVC stack in my framework. :)
 
emm .. you shouldn't .. because you cannot have MVC in PHP
 
It might not end up with any kind of full stack framework at all, in fact, if I don't manage to come up with something that fits better than MVC with web apps. In that case it'll just be a collection of packages.
@tereško I say MVC cos everyone calls it that, I know you can't have it for real.
Rails has a lot to answer for in this regard, everyone who made a PHP framework tried to copy it to some extent.
 
that i can agree with
 
Ok. guys lets be respectful to each other.
@LeviMorrison he/she probably talking about him/herself
 
10:05 PM
is there a way to make IE support CSS3 property 'box-shadow'?
 
@user705339 go n learn on your favorite w3schools))) Best way to use pngs)
 
blast...thanks
 
IE users can live without their box shadows
or rounded corners
 
@MichaelRobinson exactly
 
10:07 PM
or border-box
make your site work in IE, and leave it at that
 
@MichaelRobinson lol....barest minimum effect required?
 
@user705339 yes, save yourself pain!
 
alrightie
 
@user705339 you could looks into blur filter for IE
 
IE users should obviously be able to use your site, but if you try to make all your bells & whistles work for them too, you won't be able to release features and bug fixes in a timely manner
We make the front-facing parts of our sites look as good as reasonably possible in IE, and force chrome frame for backend admin sections
 
10:23 PM
hey guys, just got the right to chat :-)
 
paaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarty
 
k, that works... bye!
 
@MichaelRobinson thanks
 
10:39 PM
later
 
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@user705339 Just add it, at the moment IE supports it, it will display it. Unless it don't, it's no problem at all, because it's a visual effect only.
 
@hakre just add what?
 
The declaration of the box shadow.
 
I already did.....showing in all, except IE, as usual
 
10:53 PM
Well, actually you're using a working draft: w3.org/TR/css3-background/#the-box-shadow
You have to give browser vendors some time to implement it. But as long as you refer to the specs and you follow with it's changes, you don't have to care about everything else.
IE will show it one day.
 
@hakre thanks....more tools, more arsenal, same brain, diminishing time.....oh well
 
Well don't care if some older browser is supporting the latest fancy stuff bug-free. just don't care. Pick something stable, and for presentation use a shiny looking browser.
CSS is presentation only.
check your page works in lynx and you've done everything right.
 
lynx? I'm guessing that's a browser too
 
more like "help me , i broke my *nix" tool
 
yes, text only, optimized for screens of 80x25 characters
 
10:59 PM
if it's text only, and the main problem IE has is in designs/images, how will Lynx help?
 
it will help you to understand that CSS are some declaration of style only. Those declarations are relative to the implementation of any browser.
 
would background images, or images in general show on a lynx?
 
lynx shows images as links and offers you to display them inside a picture viewer if you like.
 
oh ok
 
Just declare your box-shadow and ignore IE not displaying it.
 
11:04 PM
+1
 
That's what I wanted to say to you.
 
lol.....alright
thanks though
 
does an assert*() method in a testing function stop execution?
of that method?
making it ineffective to put one after the other?
 
you can have multiple assertions per test
 
user895378
I think the default behavior with PHPUnit is that if an assertion fails then that particular test case ceases and is marked as failed.
 
11:14 PM
ahh ok
cool thanks pplz
 

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