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2:00 PM
Does this look like reddit to you?
 
user1174868
I need points before I can ask questions
 
...you do? since when
 
user1174868
It is very similar to reddit, upvotes and downvotes
 
user1174868
Since I got banned from asking questions because my first question got downvotes
 
user1174868
"Sorry, we are no longer accepting questions from this account. See goo.gl/C1Kwu to learn more."
 
2:01 PM
Damn it, MSVC11 does not support templated typedefs.
 
You don't need points to ask questions, you need good posts to ask questions.
 
haha what did you ask? :S
 
user1174868
"Automatic bans never expire or "time out." This means that you cannot simply wait for a certain amount of time: if you do not take action, you will never be allowed to post again. The only way for the ban to be lifted is for you to convince the community that they should give you another chance..."
 
@Jordan that means you were spamming. Your questions were of little value. Showed no research. Would help no one else but yourself.
So what's the problem?
 
I.e. you're a bad poster.
 
user1174868
2:02 PM
I asked a question about how to get visual express 2008 working on my computer because I was getting some weird errors with it
 
@Jordan it doesn't take just 1 question to get banned
do you have links?
 
user1174868
my profile?
 
@Jordan we can't see deleted ones.
 
Xeo
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Q: C++ why is this working?

user1595409I have been trying to learn C++ for some time now. Recently I came across the following piece of code: #include <iostream> using namespace std; class Point { private: double x_, y_; public: Point(double x, double y){ x_ = x; y_ = y; ...

 
The question is ranty, badly formatted and barely related to SO.
 
Xeo
2:02 PM
man, questions like these have become way to common
 
user1174868
@Xeo It is getting replied and upvotes so someone found it useful right?
 
Xeo
@Jordan Doesn't change that it's a dupe of a dupe of a dupe....
 
No, it means voting lemmings are nearby.
 
user1174868
fuck
 
user1174868
I need voting lemmings, where do I get them?
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2:04 PM
@Jordan www.amazon.com
 
user1174868
I have a legitimately interesting question to ask
 
expertsexchange
 
user1174868
at least to me, and maybe at least one other person, hopefully the person who knows the answer
 
@Jordan create a new account! It's not like you have tons of rep to lose.
 
user1174868
meh
 
2:05 PM
@LuchianGrigore: lol @ your comment
 
user1174868
I use this account for several other things, and it is tied to my main email account, I dont want to make a new one
 
@CatPlusPlus nah... just sex change.
 
Parachuting to avoid question bans is probably bannable.
It should be.
 
yeah, probably best not to do that :)
 
user1174868
well da fuck
 
user1174868
2:06 PM
I want to ask questions
 
@Jordan it shouldn't be hard to find questions you can answer. Remember, you don't have to be the first person to answer, or the one writing the longest answer, and you can still answer after another answer has been accepted
 
@Jordan take it like a man! Your questions probably sucked. Did you read the FAQ?
 
user1174868
@jaif I don't know anything about programming,millions of other people can anwer the questions I can and probably better
 
alternatively, you could try getting hold of an admin and explain why they should give you a chance here and now
 
user1174868
@LuchianGrigore I have read the FAQ
 
2:07 PM
@Jordan post links to some of your deleted questions please.
 
So, @Jordan, you basically want to exploit the community and its help, not giving anything in return? I guess it's good you got banned
 
You just said you knew something about scheme :)
so find some scheme questions and see if you can contribute anything
 
user1174868
@BartekBanachewicz I would like to offer something but I can't
 
maybe your answers won't say anything new, but maybe they can offer better explanations
there's no rule against overlapping answers
 
@Jordan you can, it's just a matter of time. Do it "the hard way" for some time. You'll learn new things, and then you will be able to answer about these things to other newbies
 
2:09 PM
@LuchianGrigore ~probably~
 
user1174868
Well it looks like all the scheme questions are above my knowledge
 
user1174868
I am just taking an intro to programming type course now
 
user1174868
Structure of Computer Programming, using Structuers and Interpretations of Computer Programs
 
SO community is numeorous. No matter how bad you are, there's always someone starting
 
and someone unimaginably skilled, like me
 
2:11 PM
@DeadMG find a job yet?
 
@DeadMG you're just a puppy
 
user1174868
Getting a job is hard, unemployment is easier I think
 
@Jordan anyway, there's nothing we can do. We're not moderators or admins or anything. All we can tell you is what we've said: try to find some questions to answer, and don't worry if better answers already exist, it's ok to add another one. And an administrator can reinstate your account if they want to, so if you feel your situation is special, contact them and explain why
 
@Jordan what the fuck is that supposed to mean?
 
@LuchianGrigore working on it as we speak
 
2:14 PM
good luck with it :)
 
Spelling is hard. Programming is harder
 
Just asking on SO is easier. Surely there is a spelling/grammar/language SO? :p
 
user1174868
@BartekBanachewicz No one wants to hire a student with no job experience, part time and random hours during this time of year. It is easier to file for unemployment
 
*SE
 
@DeadMG weird... I thought companies were looking for unimaginably skilled programmers :P
 
user1174868
2:15 PM
@jaif Thanks I will try but it will take some time with how rare scheme questions are
 
@Jordan where are you from?
 
25 mins ago, by Jordan
I STILL CAN'T ASK QUESTIONS OH NO
 
user1174868
@BartekBanachewicz US
 
^ THAT is the problem
 
2:15 PM
Hallo!
 
heya
 
Guten Tag
 
tach auch
 
Mornin'.
 
user1174868
2:16 PM
I think I have to take out loans for rent soon, tuition emptied my bank account
 
^guten tag
 
there's always McDonald's
 
I don't think they let you sleep there
 
Loans for... rent?
That sounds almost backwards. Shouldn't you take out loans for Tuition?
 
'Strap on' is 'no parts' backwards. Fucking genius
 
user1174868
2:17 PM
Maybe, trying not to go in debt though
 
That is funny ^
 
I mean, loans on Tuition can have their payment and interest withheld for the duration of the time that you can prove you're a student, right?
 
@sehe oh well.
 
@sehe .... Clever. The person who first made that term is indeed a genius.
 
user1174868
2:18 PM
@ThePhD Sort of, are you from the US? The loans are owned by companies and the companies can sell your loan to other companies and weird stuff like that so the rules can change
 
the robot speaks german? :P
 
@melak47 I'm going to need to, since I'll start working in Germany!
 
@Jordan Yes, I am. So far I've completely dodged the loan bullet, thank god.
 
Btw, that means I got the job.
:P
 
congrats :)
 
2:19 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes oh wow, grats!
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes CONGRAATS! Should throw like a Lounge<Party> for you.
 
when do you start?
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes Gratz!
 
user1174868
@ThePhD You are lucky then, I just need to get accepted to a school then I will be good to go for payments, no loans or anything
 
I don't think some one with such strongly dyslexic ways should work with a product called 'SNAD'
 
2:20 PM
@Jordan that sounds weird. Doesn't the state offer student loans? That's how it works here
 
user1174868
@melak47 Yes, what state are you in? They do but the state doesnt own the loans, a company does
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes congratulations! (at least you're succesful in this room)
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes A shiny beam of light for you good sir!
 
@Jordan well, Germany :p
 
@Jordan Well, good luck getting into a school. The only reason I made it to undergrad is because I applied to 25 different schools, including non Common-App ones. Fuck that noise.
 
user1174868
2:22 PM
@melak47 Oh, that must be nice :P anyways in the US it changes from state to state so I can only speak for my state but the loans are controlled by private companies
 
Maybe I should also move the Germany to get a job, being German seems to be the style at the time
 
@jalf I'll get back to them on Monday and then we'll work out all the kinks, but it's as soon as possible.
 
user1174868
@ThePhD Thanks, didn't that cost a ton of money to apply to so many schools? I am only doing two this semester
 
@Jordan I begged for vouchers like a .... ... begger.
 
user1174868
Germans have it good, really no downside to Germany. Good beer, good women, healthcare, education and all that are taken care of
 
Xeo
2:23 PM
So, the robot comes to Berlin and I'll prob leave Berlin for those Funatics guys. Equivalent exchange? :P
 
@Xeo Where's that thing?
 
It costs money to apply to schools?!
 
Also, we could meet this weekend if you want.
 
@melak47 Application fee. It stacks.
 
Xeo
On the other side of Germany, Oberhausen in Nordrhein-Westfalen
 
2:24 PM
@melak47 You can get a voucher sometimes, though. And it depends on which schools you're applying to. The bigname ones shove some ridiculous 50-150 USD pricetag down your throat just to fill the damn thing out.
 
wow.
 
"Yohoohohoo, welcome to our campus. For breathing our air, it'll be fiftee dollars. Yooohoohohooooo~"
Some schools even do dirty things,
like take your SSN and such and sell it to outside private insurance companies
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Oh, I think I should cc @sbi (see the message that this is a reply to)
 
the hell
 
for extra profit. Then those insurance companies start charging the shit out of you, and you don't even know it 'till you're out of the school.
 
2:27 PM
sounds like fun.
 
@melak47 Or dutch.
 
You don't know what you're talking about. Please stop posting about stuff related to memory allocation. — CrazyCasta 1 min ago
 
@sehe I suppose. Seems he confirmed it as german though
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Best wishes from soggy, miserable UK too. Germany fine by me, esp. beer!
 
Meanwhile, right below is their answer, which leaks as well.
 
2:28 PM
@chris Oh gawd, oh gawd, that question.
 
All the memory leaks.
I think this is the great indirection I've ever seen:
vector<Bar*>** bars;
 
vector<Bar*>** has got to be the fugliest two-star (three-star?) variable I've ever seen.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I know, right? You have to wonder, why so many stars?
 
What the fuck goes through the brain of someone to come up with that?
He clearly knows about vector, yet, he news up an array.
 
@ThePhD it's clear, he wanted it to become a 3 star question at least :)
 
2:30 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Server development, possibly.
 
Yeah, Bar**** would be so much cleaner.
 
@kbok Obviously not.. it has 4 stars
 
An array of pointers to vectors of pointers. Fuckety fuck.
 
Ahahaha
Alright
I think I can answer this question.
 
@Neil Ooh - night porter service!
 
2:32 PM
Oh my god, my first SO question that I get to answer! <excited/>
 
@ThePhD Careful. This question is a minefield.
 
@MartinJames You don't ever want to go to a 4-star pointer. The service is awful and you always tend to be miserable in the end.
 
@DeadMG It's 10 of those vectors, so it should be std::vector<std::vector<std::unique_ptr<Bar>>>, not std::unique_ptr<std::vector<std::unique_ptr<Bar>>>.
 
Yeah, one mistake will result in a few quick downvotes.
And you won't be able to fix it by the time some of the people would see and revert them.
 
It's not a good thing to be a three-star programmer. Also: if you really want to use pointers, use smart pointers. You can't really mess up with std::shared_ptr — stefan 7 mins ago
 
2:34 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Worst I've had to deal with was a pointer to a map of vectors, which is not even that bad
 
I don't like this comment.
"Just stop thinking and use this hammer."
 
@melak47 He's confused. He's got jet lag. +24h and -23h. Tough traveling regime
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Smart pointers will do the thinking for you. Yeah sure. Just put the plane on autopilot and you're set for life.
 
I remember in my naive days, I had something like a Type******** to represent 8 levels of depth in an AI thing. Needless to say, that got obliterated quickly.
 
@sehe +1h.
@chris I don't think I've ever been that naïve :P
 
2:36 PM
@chris Holy crap
 
I think I've only ever used two-star variables to pass pointers as output parameters.
 
Usually after my third pointer, I say to myself, "Wow that sure is a lot of stars.. I wonder if this is a good thing..."
 
I still hate making AIs, but man that was funny thinking about it.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes See, even I'm confused. Fixed
 
I need some help... I'm out of deletes for the day, can you guys vote to delete this - stackoverflow.com/a/12641848/673730 ? pliiiizzz
 
2:37 PM
I always get confused when post edits make a beep :p
 
Out of deletes, lol.
 
user1174868
@melak47 Applying to schools is going to cost me $100 this semester and if I don't get accepted I am applying to four schools next semester which will cost over $200
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I'm going through old 0-score answers and deleting them...
 
@Jordan You have to pay to apply?
 
@Jordan what are you going to do if you're not accepted? why not apply to four schools right now?
 
user1174868
2:38 PM
@DeadMG Yes, an application fee
 
@LuchianGrigore Oh, I see. Done. Needs two more.
 
@DeadMG I was baffled, too
 
@DeadMG that's quite common.
@R.MartinhoFernandes thx
 
Yeah, I'm going to have to pay one soon.
 
@LuchianGrigore Don't do it if it's the only answer in the question, btw.
 
user1174868
2:39 PM
@melak47 Well because the two schools I am applying to now don't have as rigorous of requirements as the other two. Basically I can't apply to the other two yet but I can apply to the two that I am applying to now
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes why not?
 
user1174868
@melak47 That isn't to say the "harder" requirements make the other schools better, they aren't, they just have harder requirements
 
@Jordan: how do the requirements get "easier" over time?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes 'You can't really mess up with std::shared_ptr' - not entirely convinced by that.
 
user1174868
2:41 PM
@melak47 They don't, it is just that I do not have all the classes done that they want.
 
@Jordan so, you are in school now?
 
user1174868
@melak47 Basically my problem is that I am running out of classes to take at my community college except the one or two I need for college transfer that I could take next semester
 
user1174868
@melak47 Yes, I have been going to school for about a year and a half
 
@LuchianGrigore Because then you're making the Internet a worse place! You're turning a question with a helpful answer into a dead end, if someone comes by from a search engine query.
 
@thecoshman Yay! If there are bugs, you can eat them
 
2:43 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes well, I was doing it for either wrong or duplicate answers anyways. But yeah, makes sense.
 
@Jordan ah, so you need some classes in order to transfer to the other college's without starting over?
 
user1174868
@melak47 Not really start over, they just want to see your calculus 2 grade and physics 1 and 2 before you apply basically. Otherwise they consider you more like a high school student I think
 
@LuchianGrigore Ok, that's cool then.
 
@LuchianGrigore often enough when I answer a question on gamedev.se, nobody upvotes. Sometimes I'm lucky and the original asker does, if he accepted it in the first place..
 
@thecoshman But can it run Crysis?
 
2:45 PM
@MartinJames As you shouldn't. And that's another reason I don't like unwarranted suggestions of shared_ptr.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes curious - how much rep did you lose from daknok's ragequit?
 
@melak47 Gamedev.se sucks.
 
@DeadMG :)
 
16 hours ago, by R. Martinho Fernandes
Wait, does that mean that fuck never upvoted me?
 
:)) awwww
 
2:46 PM
I lost some rep yesterday, but was from serial upvoting reversal.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes same here! Just 1 though
-1 11 hours ago reversal Serial upvoting reversed
nope, t'was today
 
I lost 15
Dunno if it was a question and answer, or three questions
 
@DeadMG it has better crab simulation then Crysis
and don't be stupid, Doom is the bench mark game :P
 
@thecoshman Half life 2
 
@LuchianGrigore You're lucky. I got a big fat red bar on my graph because of it (It was -113, and I only collected 55, totalling -58).
 
2:49 PM
"There are only two hard problems in computer science: cache invalidation,naming things and off-by-one errors." Phil Karlton
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lol
 
-58 yesterday
:)) lol
 
YAY. Got a call from the agency. I immediately told a guy that I'm too young for Senior position he found for me, but he said it's OK and maybe I'll end up as normal or even junior dev. We're meeting on monday ;)
 
I feel left out. My rep didn't change.
 
2:50 PM
Ok, anyone else that answers this stackoverflow.com/q/12641859 with a new in the code gets a downvote from me.
And I don't want to waste more rep on downvotes on that question.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes question downvotes are free
 
downvoting costs reputation?
 
@BartekBanachewicz lol. as opposed to abnormal dev. :)) It's called mid-level ffs!
 
@BartekBanachewicz I'm talking about the answers to it.
 
The OP is starting to open up about what they really need.
 
2:51 PM
@melak47 on answers, yes.
 
@melak47 On answers it costs one.
 
@LuchianGrigore ok. never done it before.
 
@chris Yeah, that's why I haven't answered yet. It's not easy to give a useful answer if you don't know what they want.
 
I POSTED MY FIRST ANSWER
 
@melak47 don't worry. Just wait for someone who you feel comfortable with.
 
2:52 PM
SO EXCITED
 
lol
 
2 mins ago, by R. Martinho Fernandes
Ok, anyone else that answers this http://stackoverflow.com/q/12641859/ with a new in the code gets a downvote from me.
 
@LuchianGrigore This position's lenght is one.
 
I am disappoint.
 
@ThePhD you have 3 answers....
 
2:53 PM
@LuchianGrigore hehe.
 
@LuchianGrigore Well it's been such a long time I don't remember the other ones.
 
@ThePhD SO does.
 
+1 For the kindness and delicacy of your answer. — DeadCicada 19 mins ago
lol
 
Why does that name sound familiar....
 
@LuchianGrigore she's dead for chat, apparently. Xeo killed her, iirc.
 
2:54 PM
Dang it my download's been stuck at 99.9% for like an hour because the one other person on it decided to have fun and cut me off at 99.9%.
 
@thecoshman olden, but golden
 
Aww I've been downvoted like immediately. =[
Guess my answer is a fail.
 
@ThePhD it's because of the new.
 
I gave warning.
 
2:55 PM
@BartekBanachewicz Porn issues again ?
 
@BartekBanachewicz Nah. Just told her cicadas die at summer's end
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Congrats :)
 
WTH is a cicada?
 
Aww, almost time to go to my one class today.
 
@LuchianGrigore Ah. My bad. I thought he really wanted that Bar*, oh well.
 
2:56 PM
@LuchianGrigore A bug.
 
@ThePhD I didn't read the answer nor the question, but I remember the robot said he'd downvote answers with new in them.
 
@sehe The news were killing.
@LuchianGrigore it's an animal which females devour the males
 
@kbok why is that word always on my screen when I come into this room????
 
Such a riot grrl.
 
@BartekBanachewicz so... human?
 
2:57 PM
:)
 
@TonyTheLion You should ask that to your shrink. :P
 
oh god, gross
 
@ThePhD Even if he wanted...
Sep 21 at 10:04, by R. Martinho Fernandes
The choice is not between boost::ptr_vector and "stupid delete loop", but between boost::ptr_vector and "my own ptr_vector". </rant>
Stupid delete loops are stupid.
 
Gross.
 

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