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user1804599
12:44 AM
oh 700 rep until 20k
 
user1804599
rad
 
@jaggedSpire Awwww <3
@Mysticial Maybe he wants to make a debugger... sounds legit to me ;)
you all are masters of it but cant understand uuuuuhhhhhhhh — Hamda Abbas 5 hours ago
Yeah because us being good programmers somehow means we can understand any shitty question whatsoever
 
masters of disaster
 
Ell
1:49 AM
Good programmer memes
 
@Borgleader didn't you get your psychic abilities with the "congratulations on being a good programmer" packet?
 
2:04 AM
@jaggedSpire Mine got lost in the mail :(
 
@Borgleader aw
@Borgleader oh man I saw that earlier but it didn't seem entertainingly bad from the title, just standard bad so I didn't open it :(
 
2:41 AM
Anybody working on anything cool?
 
if you have an eye on good code, great at stealing those code and make the few pieces of stolen code work together to do what you intend them to do, are you a good programmer?
 
Yes why not?
 
@Mikhail #define cool
 
Also stolen code crashes less
 
true that
because usually people who write open source code are confident with their code before making those code open source
 
2:45 AM
/cc @jaggedSpire who's a good boy?
 
@Borgleader :D
fuck this keyboard doesn't have delete
I actually use that key often
also page up/down
and end
and home
ಠ_ಠ
has a key just for searching tho
 
wtf kind of keyboard is that
 
chromebook kb
 
lol
 
this is gonna be real sad if I just wind up buying a usb keyboard and using that
 
2:52 AM
linux?
 
chrome os, so yes
gonna install ubuntu or some close cousin on it soon
 
do so and remap that shit
 
Oo, dear, I have not been paying attention, but more and more laptops nowadays look like macbook air
 
I definitely will
 
@jaggedSpire Try Fn key (if it has that) and arrow keys.
 
2:53 AM
gonna make this nonsense key capslock like is proper
only alt, ctrl and shift :D
alt-arrow seems to be an equivalent to home + end though
thanks
 
Maybe alt-backspace is delete. :p
 
just checked. Sadly, none of the control key-backspace combos are delete
for now
Probably gonna get it into dev mode tonight and start experimenting with the utilities there, as soon as I'm tired of dicking around in coliru
 
/cc @jaggedSpire @Morwenn @Ven
 
which makes me think ... what's the minimum keys on a keyboard before it becomes too hard to use?
 
/cc @Xeo ?
 
3:01 AM
you probably need 0-9, a-z and a power button
 
@Telkitty depends what use case probably
(also space)
 
that too
 
@Borgleader :D
@Borgleader you know I don't remember the floof list anymore
...I can probably find the list in the transcript though
...okay
that's a lot of people
Apr 19 at 13:07, by jaggedSpire
red panda! /cc @Borgleader @Ell @ThePhD @TonyTheLion @Ven @Xeo @набиячлэвэлиь
Xeo seems to have only wanted the red panda pics
 
@LucDanton is this for real
 
@CheukKinSing is this just fantasy
caught in a laaaandsliiide
 
3:05 AM
 
^_^
 
'brown panda' :p
 
>:-|
 
@Mikhail ?
 
3:08 AM
@Borgleader :D
no escape from reality
 
@Mikhail I think you mean snacks of consumerism. :V
 
@jaggedSpire :3
 
@Borgleader :3
 
3:15 AM
@Borgleader oh man that is an incredible amount of fluff
like a pillow exploded
in dog form
 
Its a mobile pillow full of warmth and fuzziness
... i want one
 
terribly
the day I get a job where I can work from home is the day I start looking for a dog, I think
 
Okay guys, I need some help with Qt internals. So, I grab a Qt widgets winID() (gives an constant HWND), and then I make a OGL context, and start rendering to it. But nothing appears on the widget, and OGL doesn't give me an error. Not sure what to do.... The HWND seems to return the correct parameters for the widget, but I can't fucking see anything rendered.
 
make sure the little guy is all settled in, and happy, and comfy, and knows they're safe
well I have less experience with Qt than you do, so I can't help
 
#FridayNightYOLO
Are we still doing the yolo thing?
 
3:23 AM
idk
still, you only live once so you may as well
there is a nice feature to this laptop though where if I swipe with three fingers it scrolls through all my tabs
 
Didnt expect that. I thought it was going to triple reject ppl on Tinder :P
 
lol
no tinder for me
only SO, fanfic and coed
and floofs
 
@jaggedSpire !kinky
 
@Mikhail how rude
@Borgleader that's how I roll
augh fuck the multi-edit functionality on coliru isn't working for some reason I blame this kb
 
3:48 AM
hm
struct blah : std::integral_constant<char, '-'>{}; y/n?
I think I will paint this bikeshed green
 
that is a very large totoro futon
 
yeah
 
4:39 AM
time to mess about with dev mode I guess
 
5:06 AM
it's always time to mess around in dev mode :p ... as long as you have a working version to fall back on to
 
it's my laptop
as of tomorrow, my only laptop
it's going to be an ~adventure~
 
5:19 AM
> This chroot's name/location/password/existence sucks. How to fix?
heh
 
 
2 hours later…
6:56 AM
wheeeee
> treat top row keys as function keys
yessss
 
7:23 AM
@CheukKinSing I guess? no axe buff this time though, it alternates so it was ele scepter this time
 
8:10 AM
> Programmer uses existing technologies to solve problems. Genius!
4
lol
 
8:29 AM
@Mikhail What's the combined sequential bandwidth of your raid array?
I picked up 12 x 2TB Toshiba 7200 rpm's at Microcenter today to replace the rest of the old drives in my array. So now the array is 16 of those. The bandwidth is faster than Shigeru Kondo's rig for the 12.1 trillion digit Pi computation.
High density drives FTW.
 
9:00 AM
@Mysticial Why are you so obsessed by calculating pi?
 
@fredoverflow Gives him a reason to buy all that sweet hardware.
 
9:12 AM
Ten Immutable Laws Of Security. Looks like a handy checklist.
 
float PI = 3.14151617;   // good enough for me ;)
 
not launching a rocket I assume >_<
 
I only launch my rocket in IO monads.
"lend" and "borrow" are the same word in German :(
 
9:33 AM
@fredoverflow Not Pi. Hardware.
 
the disks don’t come preloaded with the digits
you have to compute them yourself
 
@Mysticial What would be a good entry-level quadcore to buy if my several-years old Xeon died tomorrow?
 
@LucDanton lol
 
Now it is pretty terrible time to get a new processor with all the stuff coming out in January. But if you have to 6600K or 6700K.
 
@fredoverflow AMD :p
Oh wait, there's Atom.
@Mysticial I'm eagerly waiting for Zen.
 
9:38 AM
I'm also interested in getting a Zen box.
I'm looking at potentially 2 or 3 builds next year:
- Zen
- Skylake Purley
- Knights Landing
That last one is unlikely given how much they are priced and that you can't actually build them.
Cannonlake is also a possibility, but I'm betting that still slip into 2018.
 
@Mysticial Grab one from your nearest national laboratory.
@Mysticial What's Purley?
 
The server version of Skylake that has the AVX512 instructions.
I'm looking at the dual socket ones since I have some NUMA stuff to test.
But I'll be satisfied with just a single socket overclockable HEDT part if that's all I can afford.
 
Ah. EP Skylake.
 
AVX512 is the minimum requirement period.
 
int main()
{
    int a = 123;
    int b = 097;
    return 0;
}
Anybody see the error? :)
 
9:43 AM
If Cannonlake is around the corner, then I'll be much less inclined to get the Skylake-E and go for a lower-end dual-socket Skylake Purley.
@fredoverflow Octal.
 
@Mysticial Exactly. My compiler says "octal literal indicated by leading digit 0 cannot contain digit 8 or 9" :)
Oh wait, gcc also has a nice error message: "invalid digit "9" in octal constant"
 
@Mysticial Well, for Cannonlake, there is a chance they'd reserve AVX-512 in server/HEDT versions like in Skylake.
 
Pretty sure error messages used to be terrible for this case.
 
@MarkGarcia There's evidence in the Intel emulator that Cannonlake will have AVX512 in all variants.
That makes it more certain, but I still wouldn't bet my life on it.
 
Ven
10:15 AM
Those kittens are so fluffy.
 
10:38 AM
I need another Big Project.
sol2 isn't enough to get hired.
 
user1804599
11:27 AM
@ThePhD Facebook
 
Meaning...?
 
user1804599
@fredoverflow Assuming release mode, i.e. -W{all,extra,error}, an unused variable.
 
user1804599
@fredoverflow it should emit an error when you use octal literals at all
 
user1804599
Fucking retarded is the octal literal syntax.
 
@fredoverflow Yeah your program sucks.
It manages to make doing nothing complicated.
But yeah, I've run into the octal error once or twice.
Octal literal is a feature that is almost never used intentionally.
@rightfold agreed
 
user1804599
11:37 AM
Silly language designers picking an arbitrary set of bases and giving them retarded syntax.
 
user1804599
Instead of picking a simple syntax that allows all bases between 2 and 36 that looks the same for all of them, with a default base of 10.
 
user1804599
Joe Armstrong ftw
 
Xeo
@rightfold But 0 is an octal literal D:
8
 
The 0 stands for Octal.
Just found an unopened package of chorizo slices in my fridge that expired on October 10th.
 
@LucDanton I feel weird about this
@StackedCrooked Nice, did you do that matching background color + shadow on purpose?
 
11:46 AM
Nah, it's just a screenshot.
Screenshots made on a Mac get nice shadowy borders.
 
11:59 AM
It's in my top 5 of funniest anime I've ever seen.
 
12:15 PM
Okay.
I don't know how to handle doing Imports of stuff.
Especially imports that bind to external C code.
Do I just load my Semantic AST up with the namespace and function definitions of various things.... ?!
 
Heya.
 
@ThePhD Hey bby <3
 
I took ID photos just after I woke up today. I somehow look like I'm out of jail.
 
Ven
Hi
 
Hiyo
I need an internal concept of "this binds to some specific LLVM IR".
But then that binds my code to LLVM IR.
As a representation, that is.
I guess I just need to bite the bullet and make "intermediate code shit", or just dump out a bunch of declarations pre-Semantic-Analysis
 
12:28 PM
-2
Q: How to handle corner cases.?

BuetmanWhile solving any problem most of the time I come up with a solution. But a bigger problem for me is to handle corner cases. Can anyone explain how he/she does that.

eh?
 
@Morwenn that's how I look like on my ID
 
I guess it could be worse, but still...
 
hehe
doesn't really look like a jail picture
 
It's certainly better than the one on my driver's license.
I even look a bit younger even thought I took the other one 3~4 years ago.
 
I look nothing like the pic on my driver's license.
 
12:35 PM
xD
 
Ven
12:47 PM
:/
 
nwp
@fredoverflow verborgen/ausleihen
 
@Ven Are you sad?
 
not sad just facial paralysis :p
 
x)
 
Ven
@Morwenn no I've got two kittens and a cat around me
I'd say I'm pretty happy.
 
12:54 PM
pet sitting or permanent?
 
@Ven :3
 
Ven
@Telkitty I'm on holidays :). So for a week.
 
@rightfold I found a middle ground between interpreting the AST directly and compiling it into bytecode: flatten control structures to special jump statements. Now a function body is just a list of statements, and there are no more blocks or control structures. Example:
int main()
{
    int a[10];
    int i;
    for (i = 0; i < 10; ++i)
    {
        if (i % 2 == 0)
        {
            a[i] = -i;
        }
        else
        {
            a[i] = i*i;
        }
    }
}
 
Ven
then compile to x86 vOv.
 
0: int
1: int
2: =
3: JumpOver 9
4: JumpIfNot (== : int ) 7
5: =
6: JumpOver 8
7: =
8: ++
9: JumpIf (< : int ) 4
 
12:58 PM
@Ven :3
 
Now I can implement return as return instead of throwing an expected function result :)
 
University me xD
 
Everyday me.
 
for ((index, statement) in flatBody.withIndex()) {
    println("$index: $statement")
}
Kotlin is so nice :)
 
user1804599
1:18 PM
@fredoverflow lol statements
 
user1804599
@fredoverflow lol no HKT
 
user1804599
Purity is neccessary for niceness.
 
user1804599
But you need HKT to make purity nice.
 
1:40 PM
Interesting. Photoshop CC 2015 and Word 2010 runs on new versions of Wine.
Lack of WPF in Mono is probably the only major blocker for running VS.
 
@rightfold I'm not gonna teach my C students higher-kinded types.
 
I recall that I only learned about classes the second year.
 
> A break statement shall appear only in or as a switch body or loop body.
switch (42) break;   // lol compiles
 
hehe
 
The other day I saw a talk where the presenter suggested replacing assignments in switch statements with the following lambda trick:
const char * const s = [x]() {
    switch (x)
    {
    case 1:
        return "one";
    case 2:
        return "two";
    default:
        return "many";
    }
}();
Opinions?
Did the presenter have... one "two" many? :)
 
1:56 PM
@fredoverflow yes, and you can take the next step and move this outside of a function
 
@fredoverflow Let us have godbolt decide.
 
Ell
@fredoverflow It's better than nested tertiary operator that's for sure
 
@Ell Oh, did you see the talk as well? :)
 
@fredoverflow declaration without assignment is shit
 
True.
 
Ell
2:06 PM
@fredoverflow no. That's just what jumped to mind when I saw this
 
@Ell did you mean ternary?
 
Ell
Oops yes >.<
The cond ? then : else thing
 
@Ell lol I also make the same mistake.
 
The official name is "conditional operator".
 
Right, the only reason we also call it ternary is because we only have one of those (AFAIK)
 
2:12 PM
That is correct.
And other languages don't even have it, but use if/else instead.
 
please anyone can told me what this error mean:
DBException: 0 OperationException: { index: 0, code: 8, errmsg: "assertion C:\data\mci\e68451fd38778f261b94210de1f36147\src\src\mongo/util/concurrency/rwlo‌​ck.h:204"
 
const char * const s = if (x == 1) "one" else "many";   // not real C++
 
@Mike It means youre in the wrong chat room.
 
I assume mongo stands for mongodb?
 
@Borgleader i try search for the question whole day. I also try to search in stackoverflow previous question i cannot find solution anywhere?
 
user1804599
2:14 PM
@fredoverflow This is the usual way to work around the shitty idea of having statements in a language.
 
@Mike Still in the wrong chat room.
 
Yes this is mongodb. Total size in bytes is 6319490. And try to update.
 
This might sound silly to you, but you can also ask new questions on SO, not just read the old ones.
 
0
Q: Unable to create text Index in MongoDB getting rwlock.h error

Meillind Parsoya db.collection.createIndex({"TweetText":"text"}) { "ok":0, "errmsg":"assertion C:\data\mci\src\src\mongo/util/concurrency/rwlock.h:204" "code":8 }

Well, at least you're not alone :)
 
@Mike Looks like a problem where you should call the devs, or their forum.
 
2:16 PM
@Borgleader Are you sure? If you could ask questions on SO, surely they would be called asks instead of questions?
 
@fredoverflow "Feb 2" Wow, it stood that long.
 
"Question" stems from "quest" -- the quest to find the right question!
 
the quest to find the right ion
@fredoverflow Love that sole Tumbleweed badge.
 
@fredoverflow lol
 
For a 1 rep user whose sole post doesn't have any activity, for almost a year.
Perfect!
 
user1804599
2:25 PM
@fredoverflow lol MongoDB
 
/cc @jaggedSpire
 
2:55 PM
Goddamn.
I can't figure out
what letter to use
for base64 in a raw programming language
Usually it's 0-9, A-Z, a-z, _ and -
But the last one is an operator
Most of the extra symbols are usable as operators...
Maybe base36 is the most I can promise...?
 
So? just like 0 can be part of an identifier, - can part of your base64 literal (im assuming its some kind of literal?)
 
It's for literals, yeah.
But 0n64#ABCD_-24
Is that minus 24
or just part of the literal?
 
part of the literal
maximal munch or wtv its called
 
But muh codegolf. ;~;
 
3:12 PM
I wanted to know why @jaggedSpire doesn't come on discord anymore? :( Is it the lack of floofs?
 
There isn't much more floof around here.
 
hello morwenn
 
How are you doing?
 
I am alright
yourself?
 
Fine too. Trying to enjoy what I can :p
That said... I had to find many administrative stuff in the morning to make a new ID card, but I was told that my city hall didn't make ID cards anymore. It changed two weeks ago...
 
3:19 PM
so how do you get an ID?
 
@TonyTheLion Mine was stolen a few weeks ago, so I need ID photos, tax stamps, a proof of address, and a proof that my previous ID card was stolen (I got the required document one day after it got stolen, at the police station).
 
oh I see
 
I also learnt the hard way that nobody was selling tax stamps anymore in my town and wasted at least onne hour trying to find some in a nearby town.
Since the city halls close at noon on Saturdays, I'll have to ask in another city hall another Saturday...
At least I'm going to the pub tonight.
 
user1804599
@ThePhD don't go beyond 36
 
user1804599
the choice of lowercase vs uppercase would be too arbitrary and confusing
 
3:30 PM
@rightfold I was planning on letting everything up to 36 be case-insensitive, and then let everything above be case-sensitive.
 
user1804599
don't
 
Weeelll, okay.
 
4:00 PM
my, what big eyes you have. https://t.co/SCg3vGsNVx
/cc @jaggedSpire @Morwenn @Ven
-4
Q: Auto complete c / c++ codes in windows in sublime text 3

samyak jainI've tried many packages but none of them works perfectly. Pls help ASAP. Thanks in advance.

I have a better idea of what we can dot ASAP. /cc @Puppy
manically laughs
 
I'm probably late but..
https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/vcblog/2016/10/05/cmake-support-in-visual-studio/
 
4:21 PM
Looks like I alt tabbed at the rightest of times.
 
CMake is becoming THE thing, I guess.
 
@ThePhD Nice Sol talk btw! I got around to watching it yesterday.
 
It wasn't even starred. D:
How did you find it?
 
I secretly stalk you.
 
@Borgleader throw more dots, more dots now
 
4:32 PM
is Do -> {
    val continues = MutableStack<JumpOver>()
    val breaks = MutableStack<JumpOver>()

    val bodyStart = here()
    body.flatten(continues, breaks)

    continues.jumpHere()
    flatBody.add(JumpIf(condition, bodyStart))
    breaks.jumpHere()
}
Yay, break and continue work :)
 
4:56 PM
@Borgleader :D
@Borgleader ^_^
 
@Borgleader That's to better watch cat videos :3
 
@TonyTheLion There was a joke that I found very...distasteful. And was rather surprised and horrified that it was said at all, really. And then I realized that even if I was confrontational about it, it wouldn't change the fact that someone I considered my friend thought that subject matter was funny. In the best case, they would just avoid talking about it with me. So I took the coward's way out, and simply left.
In the worst case...
 
:'(
I'm sorry you've been put off
 
well, they seemed to think it was funny to apply it to someone they hated.
I'd really rather avoid getting that label, considering exactly what was discussed.
 
oh my
 
5:09 PM
:/
 
so!
I've moved my socializing back here
 
I am sad
 
I'm afraid you'll have to come here to talk with me :\
How have you been, lately?
 
not too bad
 
:)
That's good to hear.
well, not hear exactly :P
 
5:12 PM
lol
@jaggedSpire if you want to discuss what happened in more detail, you can always pm me in discord. I am not happy that this has made you leave.
 
@TonyTheLion :) Thanks. I might take you up on that.
 
woof
 
5:27 PM
sup pup
 
user1804599
I'm so happy
 
user1804599
I got wings
 
user1804599
And my storage facility is 50% finished.
 
I love how people create new accounts to ask questions on The Workplace, Parenting and Academia.
On the other hand, most questions are quite personal and I do understand why they do this.
> I recently turned 13, I'm in 8th grade, and my life is going pretty well. I'm getting straight A's in school, along with possibly getting a paper published in a legitimate mathematics journal.
Only on StackExchange x)
 
6:04 PM
@Morwenn That's pretty neat
 
What's the minimum age for a new account again?
 
13 I believe
 
@AaronHall how is the mod experience treating you so far?
 
Ell
6:17 PM
@Morwenn I never believe kids when they say this
Maybe its jealousy, maybe cynicism
Referring to the journal thing
 
user1804599
Super rad.
 
@CheukKinSing PvP Ele is in a precarious spot and Ele scepter is unheard of these days despite the buffs (which is what the joke is alluding to)
 
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